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Post by: jhe90
So a few of my mostly finished bits i have completed, 3 termies in assault layout, and a Commissar.
gone a long way from some of my older bits i posted, washes, details, and a whole lot more practice
and yes a few may have been overzealous on the washes!
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Post by: DarkMistro
That Commissar looks the business, wouldn't want him knocking on my door lol
Them Terminators look really good  bases for them look very fitting as well with a dark sandy like environment of an area that had being wiped of life and they looking for any possible taints or contamination of warp
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Post by: jhe90
Yeah, he came put well and the model is a very nice one to make, very little adjustments needed to make it work and fit near perfectly.
The bases look good but are not that complicated, layers of argelian earth, liquid green stuff and bits of old packing foam and cocktail stick, with little bit of a darker wash.
Just little time consuming :-)
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Post by: DarkMistro
I'm going to have to try some more additional parts onto bases I think for some of my other models to bring some depth into them
But its hard with the small bases (the 40mm ones) but with the Terminator ones are so much easier as can position them further back on base to give you some space to really work out
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The tiny bases no, but terminaitor bases you definitely have some fun with. Sure could have lots of fun with a knight :-)
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Oh god yeah the size and space of one of their bases seem to be, the ultimate playground of base customising
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Post by: psnmario
That Commissar looks really good!
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Post by: jhe90
Thank you psnmario, he was a joy to paint though the gold was tricky, a cocktail stick, pin and a few touch ups later :-)
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Post by: DarkMistro
The Gold seems always be very watery for me when ever I use it, very rarely works for me, how did you get your gold to actually show anyway?
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Post by: jhe90
Its not game workshop gold if that's what you mean.
Army painter, greedy gold, no thinning whatsoever. Nice dryed off brush or tool, works fine for me somehow.
Sword is 3-4 coats, + a dark wash. Details, one thickish aplcation is colour on in one coat, reapplys but all before it dries and touch ups on black etc all with a cocktail stick/pin
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Post by: DarkMistro
:O I see, now I know your gold secret can use it too lol
but really need a pure gold for some of my other models, as I use the red / gold style one for my Chaos (as for Khorne, a nice blood brass mix really makes them look more friendly lol) will certainly try to get a hold of that one as may come very useful for much more "royal" or "exalted" based models
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Post by: jhe90
I got good with gold as early models, well my friend called them the bling templers....kinda aloit of practice.
Safe to say I toned it down, but they still are that bit golden lol ;-)
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Post by: DarkMistro
Well fortunate with Space Marines there is never such thing as too much gold.. look at Blood Angels for instance lol
I know that Black Templar are quite a power house, but wonder what think could win? Black Templar army or a Chaos Army?
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Post by: jhe90
True, they do do it like true pro,s with sang guard.
Don,t know, templers can bring as lot of nastky cc options, and now in codex all the ranged goodies too.
Chaos is a bit behind on the updates unlike the marines.
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That is true, But us Chaos have something Space Marines can't ever have... the Daemon Prince fluffiness lol
Oh so when is your next posting of your progress  ?
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Post by: jhe90
Few days, I have 2 assult termies s to do, a emplaced hevey weapon team, and new today a sqaud of catchans, forgot the laser cannon dev marine and a fprgeworld land raider but needs some replacements first.
But termies, few days as details take me as while. I'm not a quick painter!
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Aha Well no one really is a quick painter as you think there is nothing left to do... several things sneak up on model to need painting over or doing again lol
I've started my Rhino today need to paint the inside part before rest is glued together  but need pics as that is my Blog to start hopefully once spray paint arrives
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Post by: jhe90
Well if light is good tongith I can always see about a teaser in weapons team base :-)
Very wip but you can we how things are developing
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Post by: DarkMistro
That will get people's attention sparked as a teaser would lol
Aye some wip is better shown but I know if my Tzneetch lord was being shown in wip, it would scare people by how....weird it looked lol
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So here it is. still alot of work left on it but good so far.
Cocktail sticks, some sprue and super glue later/
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Post by: DarkMistro
Wow that looks good  now that looks like a good barricade style theme right there, build some make shift blockades like them cocktail sticks and you'll have a front line defence right there lol
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Post by: jhe90
still got lots of bits to add too, excess weapons parts, old bits of rhino of they fit in, going to be very hard to paint though lol
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Post by: DarkMistro
That is true about painting side of it lol lucky the guns themselves aren't that complicated to paint, but the scenery additions you given will be something to try pulling off of blending of metal bits and wood salvaged from the area.
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Post by: jhe90
it will, most complex base ive ever built. though stand out, not seen many emplaced hevay weapons teams out there to this degree Automatically Appended Next Post: or there sane and im mad lol
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Post by: PhillyT
Commisar looks great! IS that a stylish mustache he has there? It looks like it and it is awesome.
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Post by: jhe90
Happy effect from the wash I added to his face.
Combination of a gw fleshtone, dark brown and darktone wash.
His face came out far better than expected.
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Never noticed that on his face till mentioned, that really gives him a mean look of command lol
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I only noticed when it was pointed out too, happy random effect when I added wash layers.
Luck of the paintbrush :-)
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Aye amazing how a tiny bit of pooled wash can give most random effects lol
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Post by: YourWellPaintedArmyCom
Look on yt for some tutorials how to paint. cause you dont even paint all details on base colour. Those painted have too thick layer of paint. try painting with watered down paint not straight from cup. 3-4 thin layers are 100x better than 1 thick.
Try use more colours to pop up details.
Try find some basic skills tutorials on yt like drybrushing or layering cause you have a lot of work and way ahead of you.
keep trying!
@Edit throw away metalic paints from Citadel range, buy some vallejo or p3 metalics. Those are way better than citadel ones.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Which one of the models are you meaning? the Terminator ones?
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really you need ask?
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Well never knew so was better to ask then try jumping into idea that could of being wrong.
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Post by: jhe90
WIP, liquid green stuff layer one.
very green looking but 1-2 layers to go for ground and finsihing the barricades proper.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Wow that looks... a very good base prep work  not quite seen anything like it before (never being that adventurous with bases with my models since before my Nurgle Lord).
That has made me now want to enhance my future bases and perhaps make some diorama style setting for some of my other bases
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Post by: jhe90
First time i have gone this brave on basing. kind of making it up as it goes along abit il admit!
most of older ones have simple painted bases in a naval grey and colourd rim..
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Post by: DarkMistro
Aha the "Winging it" technique lol I use that for 99% of my green stuff work and hope for best x)
lucky chaos are flexible when it comes to green stuff creations. but your base looks very good for what it would most likely become like muddy ground.
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churned ground, not so much mud but like the gun crew has been there abit, bit dirty, mud and dust filled in gaps, the desrt sand is dirty, lumpy, and not pristine and flat.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Ah I understand, remember on the guardsmen to add the mud effects on their shins / very lowest part of thighs to give it a good feel of them
I know my brother collects Astra Militarum but he isn't brave enough to attempt custom bases and such of yet, but I'm working him into trying it for some of his newer models.
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Post by: jhe90
My cammo effects are very much like it, dirty, splodgey, but il make sure to add some dirt to uniforms. argellion earth or liquid green stuff thinly added to boots maybe to make more thick and textured than just paint.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Ah that will look very good in effects on their boots  mud does clump up in the ridges of their boots (if they have any on the soles) so would gather and pile up over time.
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Post by: jhe90
So a update for ye Dark painter of chaos
many layers to go but you get idea
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Now that is taking real shape  just remember to go over every green section and may end up coming out really well effected as if mud had being forced in front of it from it being moved / placed down.
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Post by: jhe90
So Updates, the first set of bits and pieces is added.
5 Las rifles (2x carbine, 3x full lengh)
2 spades
4 combat knives
1 catchan kinfe + water canteen
2 water canteens
1 helmet
1 Auto cannon spare mag
1 morter stand
to go 1-2 crew depending on room, rucksacks, maybe a 2nd helmet, and binoculars + whatever i find in mean time.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Wow that is one lived in place, looks better then most places in city I live next to lol
If you built a diorama on that theme with all the complete models (in that time when all have being done) that could win awards
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Post by: jhe90
Well it's got ernough kit piled up for 4 crew
Ment to, like been out there a while, area is quiet so rifles stacked up, tools piled up, helmet hung on a post and rest of crew are chilling back while one guy mans the autocannon and is on watch.
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lets just hope that the one on the lascannon is not short sighted lol
*huge Ork mobs in front of him* I see a green blur! Maybe a hedge! lol
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Lol, or in green ground, the green is moving!
Hmm large set up would be good, just need few more skills first!
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Post by: DarkMistro
Aye doing larger scale places is something I'm aiming to start moving into to making better scenery for larger scale battles and things
If for my Chaos, It will just be a huge graveyard style battle field and hills, scattered with bodies and such.
But that base is a very good stepping stone to work on in that direction
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Post by: jhe90
May try hand at few barricades though, sure I have some bike bases losing around :-)
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Post by: DarkMistro
Sounds like you got few bases to spare, wish had that at this end seeming to be a few short of normal 20mm bases lol
If you can master how to create barricades out of least 4 different materials or objects, then scenery barricades will be a doddle for you
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Spare, about 5 40mm, 5-6 bike I think and 50-60:slotted 25mm
Def not short, I'll need to stop by nearby gaming shop for random bits though. They have small random tubs of bits for every army :-)
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Post by: DarkMistro
I remember my one and only time in a GW store, they were quite unsocial to me, rude and pushy :( but the store closed round two years back so won't be seeing them again.
Dang, I got 9 terminator sized bases spare but no smaller bases as far as I know, unless my brother has moved them all into one of the boxes in room where paint lol
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Post by: jhe90
this is not gw. local indpendent one, has nice 20% 40k discount and 10% online order.
odd, one in Lincoln and Nottingham i found very good with me, great staff, can have a chat, even gave me tools n some spuperglue to fix my bag one time when zip broke in town.
i was buying but they did not have to help me to that degree they did.
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Just my luck then it seemed back then lol
Ah the Terminator bases I got were also not from gw.
Can't wait to see more of your Astra Militarum heavy wep
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I got them from there but lso a huge bag of 3rd party small ones too, 1 something for 25-30 slot bases. bargin
will do at some point, justt got lots of bits to paint first
lots of baggage to add.
just bad luck.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Aha, fair dues there better to focus getting the additional parts done up ready to be added onto it so you know how to create the effects of any mud being splashed up and such.
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Post by: jhe90
ok so sorry for delay but epic pic dump post
gun position is 95%, still few tweaks i think.
some of my catchans, all in various states of WIP sorry for bad photo's they did not all turn out how i liked.
a assault termie, mostly done.
and 2 Baricades im working on slowly
and to come when my order arives in shop, some old metal guard, the arab styled ones
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Post by: DarkMistro
Well I know one thing for certain, no one will ever head shot your Catachen lol termie looks good and the barricades look very good so far, good layout really looks like they were makeshift made or found by Astra Militarum forces
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Hence the WIP. Heads need doing but im waiting till i have half the squad done.
also there the hardest part..... don't wanna ruin all my hard work with a bad finish. or they already where and so tough they do not need heads
and with baridades well bit of time with clippers n scalpal and they look nice and worn/scarred.
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Aha I see with clippers and their effectiveness on them  Should really get some I think sometime will make it easier as only using some cutters that are used for metals lol
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Mine are some old citidel ones I found in the cheap assult on black reach set :-)
Good but not pay new price!
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Will prob get some from ebay if anywhere or Amazon ^^
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Post by: House Griffith
The models look good throughout this thread, but the bases don't do it for me.
I sincerely hope you plan on cleaning up the edges of the bases, and don't intend to leave the sloppiness.
Even then, your bases would look a lot better with some texture paint on them.
You seem to just be slapping on Agrellan Earth and calling it good. You get a nice effect from agrellan earth, but it's awfully monotone and boring.
Better yet, get yourself some cheap cork and base off of that.
As stated, the models are good, but the bases leave a lot to be desired. It's not for lack of effort, but they just need more work which would be accomplished through better materials.
Edit: Also...I have no idea why you seem to be coating everything in liquid green stuff. That makes my head hurt, since that's not what it's for. Primer works just fine if you're trying to cover up your sticks or whatever.
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Post by: jhe90
I am, I paint a neeat coloured rim round them when I'm finished, each unit or sqaud has different so no one unit can be confused for another on the table top.
They all get tidied up don,t worry, cleaned, filed etc if needed n painted.
Cork, hmm sounds interesting. I'm going to drop by local art shop tmoz anyway to see what they have that's not too expensive anyway. But I'll take it on board. I'm not a pro by any means!
The barricades, it was to fill in gaps and cover up the tell tale texture of cocktail sticks I was using to build it. They had a not so nice grain/texture close up on some of them that I did not want coming through. Also was fairly easy to paint but yes I know its a odd move.
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Be nice to see how they look like with end result
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Post by: Quarterdime
This doesn't have anything to do with the quality, but...
No power sword should be rusty. Electricity cleanses rust. The only way that any power weapon could possibly rust is if it were both made with poor materials, most likely a blasphemy against the omnissiah, but also left in disuse for a long period of time somewhere wet, and subsequently never cleaned or used once. In other words, this is a commissar that found a heretical sword that was abandoned in a ditch for a month and just picked it up and is ready to use it without really knowing if it works or not. Is that his story?
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i was more going for the blade accumulated some dirt during the battle, blood, and other filth that accumulates on a battlefield and is no longer pristine gold but darker etc.
the battle was fierce and did not have time to clean the blade.
but now that one is in ruins!
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Well Commissars do keep their blades clean, but its hard to clean a blade when you have a wave of horrific alien species, Daemons or Chaos Cultists diving on you wanting to dog pile lol
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Post by: jhe90
So in my ooh shiny nature when it comes to painting, Vanguard Veteran SGT
yes i have at least 4 things on go at once  but ooh shiny new project lol.
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Post by: DarkMistro
That looks good  reminds me need to order matt gloss / varnish sometime  gunna do up my aspiring champ
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So Long time no update, one baricade trench style n three vanguards.
flash has burned off half the detail and tones so need to take some when light better,
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Post by: DarkMistro
Wow them units look dangerous and mean  that white helmet one certainly looks more standing out from others which gives them some diversity
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Post by: StormBringer328
While your minis don't look bad at all, I agree that they could use a little more 'umph' in the way of watered down paints, more controlled washes, and a few layers. It's really not that hard for even a novice painter to gain control of you tools and have a good looking model - just takes time, practice, and patience. I say this often and I'll say it again - check out the GWtv painting videos on youtube. If GW is doing one thing right as of late it's providing some excellent painting tutorials by studio painter Duncan Rhodes. I don't think any of the tutorials up deal with your minis in particular, but watch a few and take some notes on the colors used and apply them to your own paint schemes. Seriously, a very good way to learn how to paint with a good teacher. Still, your on a good start! Keep at it
And in regards to really building up a base, you can use something as simple as torn pieces of cork sheet to step it up a bit. I find a combination of torn cork, sculpting putty, and regular grade GW flock go a long way in making a good base. The addition of a skull or discarded helmet helps, too. It is the Grim Dark future, after all.
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Post by: jhe90
so still need some more wash layers but here is another white helmeted version.
ie the helmet, blue and red details etc.
yes i also forgot shoulder plates but im in process of painting a set for him.
just spotted that post, il give it a look. thanks for the constructive advice.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Wow he is really looking the part, I'd not want to go against him without being prepared lol
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Yeah, the balence was tricky mind. Took a weight or two and some adjusted rubble to make it a flat ernough surface for a good hold.
I'm planning mostly black shoulder plates + some grey and dull Wash's on brighter metal.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Aha that sounds like a good scheme for them  never knew what Black Templar paints were but they sound a bit like the Ravenwing Chapter from Dark Angels by look of it similar colours
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Post by: jhe90
White or cream shoulder plates edged with black or red seem more fluffy but the mostly black and dark armour has a menecing quality to it. 8 foot marine charging forward with all dark armour has a good effect.
With bit of bling but that's me :-)
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Aye that does give a good look to them mean after all they are Black Templars  gotta have tiny bit of bling on their squad leaders to show how much they achieved in the name of the emperor
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Post by: Joyous_Oblivion
jhe90 wrote:Thank you psnmario, he was a joy to paint though the gold was tricky, a cocktail stick, pin and a few touch ups later :-)
Trust me on this one...throw away the cocktail stick and pin and get some good brushes for detail work. They work 100x better for everything detail related. I remember i got hounded for trying a pin, lol.
Good start on these guys, cant wait to see more!
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Joyous_Oblivion wrote: jhe90 wrote:Thank you psnmario, he was a joy to paint though the gold was tricky, a cocktail stick, pin and a few touch ups later :-)
Trust me on this one...throw away the cocktail stick and pin and get some good brushes for detail work. They work 100x better for everything detail related. I remember i got hounded for trying a pin, lol.
Good start on these guys, cant wait to see more!
I did, I found a decent art shop in the end to get a tiny brush. Not so cheap but a good one.good brush's never are. The other shop did not have a good quality one.
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I get my brushes from Ebay, got my brother to order me some more so can hopefully start painting 100% again once they arrive ^^ hard to do fine detail with a large brush lol
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Post by: jhe90
DarkMistro wrote:I get my brushes from Ebay, got my brother to order me some more so can hopefully start painting 100% again once they arrive ^^ hard to do fine detail with a large brush lol
Nice just to be able to see, touch, compare what your buying :-)
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My brushes arrived today so can hopefully start painting models again as most of my models need fine brush to do them
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Post by: jhe90
Yeah, I noticed your workload is lower than before.
Normally see a few cultests osuch units on your threads.
Was thinking you had a huge hidden project
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so a post!
big pic is everything i have just because i was adding up points, and decided to gather it in one desks spot and makes a good image.
total 4615, with 60o points in guard and 88 marines total with ones still to do on sprue, WIP and unpainted, same with guard.
WIP marines, a chaplain in early stages, a vanguard and assult/basic vanguards with a tooled up assult SGT for varitey and options.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Oh god that is one heck of a force there! My army feels small compared to that lol must try getting full army pictures as this looks really good!
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Never end up using more than a few units though but I can cover quite a few options and have have some fun creating different versions.
Its a good force, kind of supriises me in a way :-)
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It looks very good lol
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ok so a Vanguard hammer unit, sheild, more custom colours than others with stronger use of red. based on a ruined city where desertification has taken place. old bolt pistol on floor, tank tracks, a rhino door ruined and such.
A assault Sgt, axe, sheild, beaky helmet and bitmore simple basing,
bike for most like a chaooter master.
and a base incorporating a dead guardsmen gear and rubble from wrecked tank track.
and some badd images of what will in eend be a chaplain but only one arm so far, bolt pistol,crrux termius on the shoulder rimmed in red,
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They are really starting to look the business lol that one with Hammer and shield looks quite intimidating. its small pity that Chaos can't have them kind of gear despite being space marines that abandoned their chapters to join up, so in theory they would take their own weapons to go join up.
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the mostly Black and red Helmets do help, i know im not going the traditional white shoulder plates but darker colors look good.
yeah, i can see why no land speeders, there very complex machines, requiring spechalist parts etc.
but yeaah hammers, and such recently turned could being razorbacks etc.
i have another with white helmets and details in the works, bit different.
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Well white is a very, very hard colour to make work  found that out hard way when tried to do a surprise painting of one of my brother's Ravenwing bikes lol
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Extremely hard, an all white army.....
Noooope.
With washed on layers it can work better but getting smooth, clean and chrisp white is not fun.
I can see why some go a parchment colour vs white.
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Post by: hybridmoments82
I'm really digging your color scheme here. Well done.
While the colors are well done, and the weathering, especially the mud on the boots look fantastic, they seem a bit flat to me. A little shading and highlight on these and they'll look even better!
Keep it up!
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Post by: jhe90
hybridmoments82 wrote:I'm really digging your color scheme here. Well done.
While the colors are well done, and the weathering, especially the mud on the boots look fantastic, they seem a bit flat to me. A little shading and highlight on these and they'll look even better!
Keep it up!
Not too hard to add some more shades to it, abit of paler sand and darker patch's of mud here and there.
Thank you, you have some good stuff too, the nice muted yellow impirial fists.
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Post by: hybridmoments82
That gold color looks fantastic! Is that a blend or a specific brand of paint?
Also, are you willing to reveal your weathering secrets, specifically for the muddy boots?? Looks like super-thick XV-88 or something!
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Sure, my muddy boots are gw argellian earth (technical)used very sparingly , just small bit in a brush, so the base colour is not obscured too much, thin layers. Too thick its natural cracking property starts to work too well. Thin you only get minor like dried on mud or dirt, the thicker the largwer the cracks.
Aim was dusty look, the planet once verdent now reduced to lifeless sand.
My gold on weapons you mean?
Its army painter metallics.
I used a base layer of plain gw black, then gun metal, or lighter plate metal.
Then several layers of greedy gold. Final layer is army painter dark tone wash. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ands like your more muted spacehulk termies, they look nice in that slightly darker red.
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Post by: hybridmoments82
The gold on that bike and on the vanguard look bright and really stands out. Looks completely different from the GW metallics -- way brighter and more eye catching. Gotta add some of those army painter metallics to my arsenal.
Boots look more muddy than dusty, but look fantastic no less. Maybe some drybrushing with a tan or light brown might get the effect you're looking for. Either way, I'm really getting amped about these Astra Militarum models and sticking them on rainy, muddy terrain with bases and weathering to match. Certainly gonna use that mud technique. Looks great!
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Post by: jhe90
The gold is pretty thick, so just keep that in mind when you use it. I will admit there was flash involved. Nice strong pigment though
First layer looks OK but 2nd or 3rd looks great. Evens out done right to a nice flat even bright gold.
I have a few browns, from sandy to dark mud so I'm going to try that to bring a more sandy look.
It works well just practice the thickness you eant on some scrap or such excess bits, its very easy to blob too much on and undo all your fine work. I found that to my peril. Only fair to pass on what I learnt.
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Post by: DarkMistro
Need to remember that for the golden colours when having to apply them onto some of my more rewarded Chaos marines lol
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yeah, my Bling Templers as once known have caused me to quite refine gold to a good level.
might try adding another gold to vary the colour if i want but need more paint for that,
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Aha I see, i know my Slaanesh splinter force will most likely have gold like trimmings to show their wealth to others off
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Post by: Krug001
I really like the commissar. I myself need to work a bit on layering, though I think this model turned out great.
I am excited to see progress on those heavy weapons teams. Good looking basing.
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Commissar was a great model to paint too, fitted next to perfect, and once I found somthung tiny, so much lovely details.
The auto cannon took a while, complex but worth it.
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The new commissar models look pretty decent
Reacently found out my Chaos terminator lord is a OOP model and the Kai Gun he has is OOP and unused in matches lol
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Vanguard. still WIP + WIP chaplain.
one is a more experimental colour scheme, greys, greens, black etc
one is a wip jump chaplain, but with abit of diversion from the normal look.
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Wow that are looking very Templar now lol and Chaplin will never have to worry of getting a headache lol
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the relic on his back just felt right. plus chaplains and skulls are perfect lol. yep all in Templer colours, red, white as well as metal feature strongly.
the claw guy was just me trying different colors, and done right the gold claws stand out alot more., more conservative but some bling.
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Aye them claws look the real deal, very ornate as well  he must of done a lot of oaths in battle to earn them lol
Always nice to have a relic or two scattered in an army or some kind of high rewarding prospect there  Building up my Khorne Berzerkers in a blood / war trophy style fashion
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so defence Lines.
not finished but samples and need alot of work still.
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WIP Honour Guard, still needs washes and such as you can see.
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Wow that Aegis Defence Line looked good very matching your WIP models too, they'll be one heck of a force to try telling to move their defences back by a few meters lol
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