Also, Old Man Logan movie would be amazing! Probably one of the best stories ever to come out of Marvel.
Minus the part where Fox can't use 90% of the cast from Old Man Logan in the movie. You can't have Hawkeye, Hulk, or anyone else who played a major part? They'd be better off doing the Death of Wolverine, honestly. I enjoyed OML. But the big screen is not a good place for it because of the copyright issues with Marvel. I foresee OML the movie being worse than Wolverine: Origins.
I guess Guatemalans look like ancient Egyptians. Seriously, why can't Hollywood hire actors who are ethnically accurate for ethnic character roles? If Apoc is still supposed to be ancient Egyptian, get an Egyptian actor ffs. They hired Omar Sharif for the role of the Arab resistance leader in Lawrence of Arabia.
I want to see native Greek actresses for Wonder Woman and Electra. A Russian for Black Widow. I want to see Harley Quinn talking with a Brooklyn (Queens?) accent. Captain Britain needs to be British and Doctor Freaking Doom had damned well better be from some Serbo/Croatian state somewhere.
Seriously, would people be fine if they cast Channing Tatum as James Bond? Hell, no. There'd be riots in the streets of London until they changed their minds.
Breotan wrote: I guess Guatemalans look like ancient Egyptians. Seriously, why can't Hollywood hire actors who are ethnically accurate for ethnic character roles? If Apoc is still supposed to be ancient Egyptian, get an Egyptian actor ffs. They hired Omar Sharif for the role of the Arab resistance leader in Lawrence of Arabia.
I want to see native Greek actresses for Wonder Woman and Electra. A Russian for Black Widow. I want to see Harley Quinn talking with a Brooklyn (Queens?) accent. Captain Britain needs to be British and Doctor Freaking Doom had damned well better be from some Serbo/Croatian state somewhere.
Seriously, would people be fine if they cast Channing Tatum as James Bond? Hell, no. There'd be riots in the streets of London until they changed their minds.
/rant
I agree with this, whenever possible. Then again Patrick Stewart wouldn't have been Prof X and Ian McKellan wouldn't have been Magneto (or Fassbender as he is British).
I would be fine with a nonannoying level Bronx accent. It fits the character.
Breotan wrote: I guess Guatemalans look like ancient Egyptians. Seriously, why can't Hollywood hire actors who are ethnically accurate for ethnic character roles? If Apoc is still supposed to be ancient Egyptian, get an Egyptian actor ffs. They hired Omar Sharif for the role of the Arab resistance leader in Lawrence of Arabia.
I want to see native Greek actresses for Wonder Woman and Electra. A Russian for Black Widow. I want to see Harley Quinn talking with a Brooklyn (Queens?) accent. Captain Britain needs to be British and Doctor Freaking Doom had damned well better be from some Serbo/Croatian state somewhere.
Seriously, would people be fine if they cast Channing Tatum as James Bond? Hell, no. There'd be riots in the streets of London until they changed their minds.
/rant
Sure, and only Danes -- Olivier, Branagh, etc. -- could ever play Hamlet. It was Brando's strong Italian heritage that made him magnetic in The Godfather. Who can forget how Clark Gable's Southern roots brought authenticity to his role in GWTW?
Henry "The Fonz" Winkler -- every bit as Italian as Gibson is Scottish, and that's a lot!
Breotan wrote: I guess Guatemalans look like ancient Egyptians. Seriously, why can't Hollywood hire actors who are ethnically accurate for ethnic character roles? If Apoc is still supposed to be ancient Egyptian, get an Egyptian actor ffs. They hired Omar Sharif for the role of the Arab resistance leader in Lawrence of Arabia.
I want to see native Greek actresses for Wonder Woman and Electra. A Russian for Black Widow. I want to see Harley Quinn talking with a Brooklyn (Queens?) accent. Captain Britain needs to be British and Doctor Freaking Doom had damned well better be from some Serbo/Croatian state somewhere.
Seriously, would people be fine if they cast Channing Tatum as James Bond? Hell, no. There'd be riots in the streets of London until they changed their minds.
/rant
Sure, and only Danes -- Olivier, Branagh, etc. -- could ever play Hamlet. It was Brando's strong Italian heritage that made him magnetic in The Godfather. Who can forget how Clark Gable's Southern roots brought authenticity to his role in GWTW?
Henry "The Fonz" Winkler -- every bit as Italian as Gibson is Scottish, and that's a lot!
At least Henry Winkler was from New York which is where his character is supposed to be from. Gibson should never have played a Scot. Seriously, there are hundreds of Scottish actors in England so you'd think one of them would be good for that part.
Brando is overrated and... aw, who am I kidding? I just don't like Brando. I think casting an actual Italian would have been better - the character is supposed to be from the "old country" after all.
I really wonder what Hamlet would be like if they used actors from Denmark speaking English but in a danish accent for Hamlet and his family.
Clark Gable is a perfect example of what I'm railing against. His selection as Rhett Butler and Charlton Heston's casting as Ramon Vargas in Touch of Evil are the epitome of what is wrong with Hollywood casting.
I really, really am not a fan of Apocalypse. I get that they wanted to go with the Egyptian thing....but he looks like he'd be more at home in a Stargate movie.
I just don't think that Oscar Issacs looks the part. At all.... And I was previously optimistic....
Sure, but Apocalypse has always looked incredibly doofy. It's like being upset that Jubilee is bright, or that you can't see Cyclops' smug eyes. Big powerful, and dumb, like a less committed and angry Juggernaut seems about right to me.
Breotan wrote: I guess Guatemalans look like ancient Egyptians. Seriously, why can't Hollywood hire actors who are ethnically accurate for ethnic character roles? If Apoc is still supposed to be ancient Egyptian, get an Egyptian actor ffs. They hired Omar Sharif for the role of the Arab resistance leader in Lawrence of Arabia.
In fairness, it's kind of difficult at this point because a modern Egyptian actor isn't necessarily going to be "ethnically accurate" for an ancient Egyptian role.
The whole egyptian actor point is moot. Apocalypse in "modern" times has a very specific look. They fethed that look the same way they fethed juggernaut.
Soladrin wrote: The whole egyptian actor point is moot. Apocalypse in "modern" times has a very specific look. They fethed that look the same way they fethed juggernaut.
Let's be honest, now. There was no way possible to make Jugger's helmet look cool in a live action movie.
Apocalypse copied straight from the comic in a live action movie though would just look ridiculous .
If you gave that cosplay outfit the same amount of professional artists and CGI work it would look a lot better then the one we have. Not everything in the comics needs to be remade for live action.
Whether or not it needs to be isn't really the entire point, though.
Some people expect live action adaptions to be as close as possible to the source... and that's fine, but it also leads to constant disappointment.
For me, translating something into a movie from a different genre, whether that's a comic, a book, a cartoon, a boardgame... whatever... it doesn't have to be an exact match for the original. Better if it isn't really, since that sort of removes any point in doing it.
So whether or not movie-Apocalypse is a direct 1:1 match for comicbook-Apocalypse is, for me, far less important tham just whether or not he's an interesting villain in the movie.
insaniak wrote: So whether or not movie-Apocalypse is a direct 1:1 match for comicbook-Apocalypse is, for me, far less important tham just whether or not he's an interesting villain in the movie.
A lot of people aren't saying "He sucks 'cuz he don't match da comics!", they're saying he sucks because he looks stupid.
the others don't look good either.
Reminds of a cheap dnd cosplay.
GG
Yeah he looks terrible. He should be a lot taller than the regular mutants, and he just looks lame compared to the comics
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insaniak wrote: Whether or not it needs to be isn't really the entire point, though.
Some people expect live action adaptions to be as close as possible to the source... and that's fine, but it also leads to constant disappointment.
For me, translating something into a movie from a different genre, whether that's a comic, a book, a cartoon, a boardgame... whatever... it doesn't have to be an exact match for the original. Better if it isn't really, since that sort of removes any point in doing it.
So whether or not movie-Apocalypse is a direct 1:1 match for comicbook-Apocalypse is, for me, far less important tham just whether or not he's an interesting villain in the movie.
But he looks terrible. Looks like an old power ranger villain
For me, translating something into a movie from a different genre, whether that's a comic, a book, a cartoon, a boardgame... whatever... it doesn't have to be an exact match for the original. Better if it isn't really, since that sort of removes any point in doing it.
So whether or not movie-Apocalypse is a direct 1:1 match for comicbook-Apocalypse is, for me, far less important tham just whether or not he's an interesting villain in the movie.
Well said, I agree entirely.
Take, for example, Heath Ledger's Joker or even Hiddleston's Loki; neither are particularly close to their comic book (or animated, or video game) counterparts (especially Ledger; all he really shares with the comics is the name and the suit), but both rank among the best movie villains of the 21st century. They work in the contexts of their respective films, and ultimately that matters more than whether the costume, haircut or anything else matches the source.
If they can make his flesh paler/more grey, that'll help. Hopefully the new Storm is better than Hally Berry (who sucked horribly), and I know nothing of Munn's acting chops. But she looks nice in her comic-accurate costume. 30000000 times better than Psylocke in X3.
Olivia Munn looks great, but After her Daily Show appearances I'm not sure she can handle the acting dimension. It's going to take some serious chops to sell a line like, "the focused totality of my psychic powers". Especially since canonical Psylocke must use this phrase every fifth sentence.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Olivia Munn looks great, but After her Daily Show appearances I'm not sure she can handle the acting dimension. It's going to take some serious chops to sell a line like, "the focused totality of my psychic powers". Especially since canonical Psylocke must use this phrase every fifth sentence.
Didn't see her on Newsroom? I think she's got the chops for this. She's not an oscar winner but we've already seen that they don't always work in comic movies (**cough**Berry**cough**)
Hulksmash wrote: Didn't see her on Newsroom? I think she's got the chops for this.
This right here. I was ambivalent about her until then but in The Newsroom she did a really good job. With the right material she can act her ass off. There was also a story with the other members of the cast she told about how the costume people had to lube up her and the suit to get her into it, and on the first scene the crotch snapped and broke.
I'd watch a DVD of just that outtake to be honest. I loved Munn in Newsroom and think she'll be great in Xmen. Or at least I'll want her to be good so much that, even if she isn't, I'll probably be alright with it.
If the back of the costume doesn't ride up her ass in every other shot she's in (at the very least), I'll be disappointed! Would be very comic-inaccurate if it didn't.
I read that interview too; seeing that scene would make for the best outtake ever.
How would it cross over to the other Marvel properties?
It won't outside of their own outside of their own spin offs like the Wolverine films, the upcoming Gambit, and potentiallly Deadpool (this could be a little too silly and they might keep it at arms length)
I'll be amazed if there isn't a Wolverine cameo at some point, he's been in all the other 7 films.
Honestly, I think this film and one more Wolverine is all we need from the X-men. Rather than dragging it out into less and less interesting films for the sake of it (I'm no fan of Deadpool, Gambit really isn't solo film material and the New Mutants are just boring), I'd rather they just hit it on the head after those and leave us with 3 trilogies that, in my opinion, have been thus far perfect*.
It is interesting to note that by the time this comes out, we will have had 3 Spideys, 3 Hulks, 2 Supemen, 2 Batmen, 2 Fantastic 4s and and 2 Daredevils since the first X-men film came out. That's a rather damn good innings, I say!
*Other opinions regarding Origins: Wolverine and The Last Stand are available!
Looks incredibly grey, and quite dull. They're hiding Apocalypse as well.
Worse, we have two scenarios:
1. Magento is a mind-controlled bad guy, which is terrible for Magneto's character as it means he really isn't in the film (bit like Hawkeye in the first Avengers movie).
2. Magento isn't mind controlled, and is just biding his time until he betrays [whoever] and tries to enact his own agenda, like every other X-Men movie ever.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Looks incredibly grey, and quite dull. They're hiding Apocalypse as well.
Worse, we have two scenarios:
1. Magento is a mind-controlled bad guy, which is terrible for Magneto's character as it means he really isn't in the film (bit like Hawkeye in the first Avengers movie).
2. Magento isn't mind controlled, and is just biding his time until he betrays [whoever] and tries to enact his own agenda, like every other X-Men movie ever.
The likely scenario in my mind is that Magneto is a genuine follower of Apoc's pro-mutant "survival of the fittest" mentality, but will either become disillusioned with him for some reason and betray him in the end or will seize the moment and try to make it on his terms after Apoc is defeated.
So, similar to your 2nd scenario, but "bidding" implies a premeditated intent to betray rather than an opportunistic one.
A huge amount of information has emerged as part of some set reports from the film. First, Bryan Singer tries to explain how this film fits into the X-Men movie timeline, and just how much Wolverine changed history in the last movie, to Collider:
It’s not leading necessarily toward exactly where we found Patrick Stewart and the ‘X-Men’ at the beginning of ‘X-Men 1,’ There are some things that lead in that general direction, that was part of the philosophy we had at the end of ‘Days of Future Past’ is that you can’t fully change the course or current of the river, but you can just divert it a little bit, and we diverted it a little bit. So some things will be surprises; people could die that were alive in ‘X-Men 1,’ ‘2' and ‘3,’ or people could survive that died during ‘1,’ ‘2' and ‘3.’
The idea that time is like a river. You can splash it and mess it up and throw rocks in it and shatter it but it eventually kind of coalesces and this is, again, quantum physics theory. It’s all based in quantum physics.
To /Film, Singer teased retelling elements of the famous Phoenix Saga with Sophie Turner’s young Jean Grey:
The full Phoenix story, I have no idea. I would have to re-explore that. If it’s already been explored, to re-explore and retell it. Plus the Phoenix story in the comic book has the Shi’ar Empire and the moon. As far as the idea of that brewing within [Jean Grey], without giving anything away I would say absolutely that interests me and you may find a piece of that in [’X-Men: Apocalypse’]. She’s trying to figure out her psychic powers, which are much more powerful than she realizes.
After describing Apocalypse as not having a true physical form but being an “energy”, Singer also teased the villain’s powerset to Collider:
One of them is to imbue other mutants and to heighten their powers and abilities beyond anything they ever imagined. Secondly, he can shield from psychic powers, he can form shields so that it makes it harder for a psychic like Xavier to tap in and get to them.
Bryan Singer teases the mall scene with Jean, Scott, Nightcrawler and Jubilee:
We have a scene where some of the mutants decide to play hooky while Xavier is off at the CIA. They steal one of his really nice cars – and an important thing about ’83 is it’s 10 years after the day that the world discovered mutants. So the world now embraces mutants and accepts them as part of society, so they can go to the mall. Obviously the instigator, Cyclops, who has only been there for like a day, convinces Nightcrawler, Jean, and Jubilee to play hooky, grab a car and go to the mall. It happens to be on a day that something bad happens…
I think the most important thing coming out of this movie will be if the deleted scenes on the DVD include Olivia Munn popping the crotch of her costume and giving everyone a show. BluRay HiDef, please.
-Loki- wrote: It won't outside of their own outside of their own spin offs like the Wolverine films, the upcoming Gambit, and potentiallly Deadpool (this could be a little too silly and they might keep it at arms length).
At least 2 X-men appear in Deadpool just from the trailer. The mutant universe definitely overlaps.
-Loki- wrote: It won't outside of their own outside of their own spin offs like the Wolverine films, the upcoming Gambit, and potentiallly Deadpool (this could be a little too silly and they might keep it at arms length).
At least 2 X-men appear in Deadpool just from the trailer. The mutant universe definitely overlaps.
That's what I meant, I just worded it badly. I was referring to the fact that it won't include MCU or Sony characters.
This looks a little bit better. Still not really stoked about it, despite loving the X-Men. Not sure why, it just seems a bit bleh - too much like the worst parts of X-Men 3.
Ouze wrote: This looks a little bit better. Still not really stoked about it, despite loving the X-Men. Not sure why, it just seems a bit bleh - too much like the worst parts of X-Men 3.
I get that vibe, too. There are just too many things being done wrong for this to be a good film.
Jubilee looks cute as a button. And yay, my favorite superhero and mancrush is back!!! I wonder how jacked he'll be this go around. God, I would love to be as vascular as him.
Spoiler:
Pretty sure he's on PEDs of some kind though
I have a bad feeling the plot is gonna suck something fierce. Too much Jennifer Lawrence and her bland voice. I'd rather not see her overrated self dominate the screen. How the hell are they supposed to beat the combo of Psylocke, Apocalypse, and Magneto? Seriously, who out of the X-Men except the Professor, maybe Jean Gray if she's lit enough, and maybe the Wolverine due to his healing factor and combat experience, have anything resembling a shot against those three?
Ouze wrote: This looks a little bit better. Still not really stoked about it, despite loving the X-Men. Not sure why, it just seems a bit bleh - too much like the worst parts of X-Men 3.
I'm struggling to get interested in this film. Weird, when you consider that the franchise has been pretty decent so far, and the X-Men are my favourite comics superhero team. It sort of seems like it will be a decent film, but maybe that just isn't enough in the context of a world that has Deadpool's hilarious trailers, the incredibly tense Civil War trailers, and the weirdly terrible Batman vs Murderman (I kid, I kid) trailers to talk about?
Plus: Quicksilver is in it - so thats cool, lots of hot actresses - ditto, Psylocke - oh yeahh - the only thing better would have been Magik. Looks really good
Minus: Apoclaypse - one of my least fav villians -was hoping Magneto would kick his ass..........
Could be a good year for sups films with X-Men, Civil War and Suicide Squad..............
Ouze wrote: This looks a little bit better. Still not really stoked about it, despite loving the X-Men. Not sure why, it just seems a bit bleh - too much like the worst parts of X-Men 3.
I'm struggling to get interested in this film. Weird, when you consider that the franchise has been pretty decent so far, and the X-Men are my favourite comics superhero team. It sort of seems like it will be a decent film, but maybe that just isn't enough in the context of a world that has Deadpool's hilarious trailers, the incredibly tense Civil War trailers, and the weirdly terrible Batman vs Murderman (I kid, I kid) trailers to talk about?
Especially in this current trilogy, the X-men movies seem to be something of a dark horse. First Class, The Wolverine, Days of Future Past have all come with minimal fanfare compared to Marvel and DC's offerings. They're all consistently brilliant, at this point they're a safe bet, which means they end up receiving far less attention than their competitors who still have something to prove or offer something 'new' (X-men have outlasted every other superhero franchise by several years now!) DOFP came out against Winter Soldier which blew people away, and Guardians which came out of nowhere to do the same, yet it's probably a better film than either (though they're all great), and now Apocalypse is being released is a 3-month period that has Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Cap, Iron Man, Spidey in very close proximity... Wolverine aside, that's basically the A-list of comic book movie characters.
That said, I'm still looking forward to Apocalypse much more than Civil War... the latter will be great fun, I'm sure, and there's plenty to look forward to there, but Apocalypse is taking a proven and stellar cast from the last two movies, upping the ante of the whole thing, by the look of it it's going to be the X-men movie that most embraces the comic book heritage and style (though some blue and yellow costumes wouldn't have been amiss! It's the 80s, after all!)
Paradigm said it well. These movies are actually GOOD movies in this trilogy. The combination of an excellent stable of actors (even if you don't like Lawrence) and it being X-men and the directors/writers seeming to have a solid plan this time around has this as one of the movies I'm looking forward to this year. It's one that I KNOW is going to be good. I don't have to wonder or worry.
Unlike BvS, Spidey, and a multitude of other fantasy/sci-fi/hero movies this year.
So, the rumour has just come up that Taylor Swift has been cast in the film.
As Dazzler in a short easter egg during the film.
People point out that the as the film is set in the 80's, MTV... actually played music. So people are imagining some sort of segment where Jean Grey and/or Scott is watching her on TV.
Compel wrote: So, the rumour has just come up that Taylor Swift has been cast in the film.
As Dazzler in a short easter egg during the film.
People point out that the as the film is set in the 80's, MTV... actually played music. So people are imagining some sort of segment where Jean Grey and/or Scott is watching her on TV.
Thats actually quite a fun idea
So far all good for the film - but Please god no Deadpool
Compel wrote: That's a bit concerning... Age of Apocalypse starts at my local cinema next week and they're only really having 3 showings a day.
To put things in context, Civil War, 3 weeks after release, has about 8.
You mean X-Men: Apocalypse. We still haven't gotten AoA. Marvel should hire the DC department that does their cartoon comic movies for an adaptation...it would fly off the shelves. I wonder how that would go over though...
The one spoiler free review I saw gave it an A- and said that they didn't really understand the poor reviews. The minus was from a slow start that didn't grab his attention but eventually paid off much later. Essentially A happens 5 minutes in for no reason but than 10 minutes until the end you find out it had a reason. It also apparently has mind battles taking place entirely in peoples minds which are "trippy".
I get the impression that it isn't a film for everyone and that it doesn't follow the popcorn summer movie mold. Eh, I'll still see it even if Rotten Tomatoes isn't happy.
Interesting to see such divergence, though it is not usually a good sign. I had also noticed that the viewing schedule was really slow for my local cinema palace, and I wonder if that is because the chains are expecting it to do badly?
Side note: it must be an interesting job to be the guy who watches films and decides how many showings to give them at the cinema.
Ahtman wrote: The one spoiler free review I saw gave it an A- and said that they didn't really understand the poor reviews. The minus was from a slow start that didn't grab his attention but eventually paid off much later. Essentially A happens 5 minutes in for no reason but than 10 minutes until the end you find out it had a reason. It also apparently has mind battles taking place entirely in peoples minds which are "trippy".
I get the impression that it isn't a film for everyone and that it doesn't follow the popcorn summer movie mold. Eh, I'll still see it even if Rotten Tomatoes isn't happy.
At this point, I think sticking to the Marvel formula gets you rewarded and straying gets you punished. Which is not to say that there aren't other, more legit reasons why a film might receive good or bad reviews. But I think that for whatever reason, the Marvel formula has become a baseline to which reviewers compare other superhero films. And I think that's both wrong-headed and unfortunate.
Let's be real though. This one will do fine. It'll make money. It won't blow the socks off the world with it's take but it'll be fine. It's X-men, the last two have been excellent, and has by far the best cast of actors for a superhero genre on the market.
I know people who won't see other superhero movies but they'll go see Lawrence, McAvoy, and Fassbender.
Hulksmash wrote: Let's be real though. This one will do fine. It'll make money. It won't blow the socks off the world with it's take but it'll be fine. It's X-men, the last two have been excellent, and has by far the best cast of actors for a superhero genre on the market.
I know people who won't see other superhero movies but they'll go see Lawrence, McAvoy, and Fassbender.
Did you see Lawrence and McAvoy on Graham Norton - quite a ride...................
Def seeing this at the cinema but then I have no interest in reviewers ...........
So, I went to see the film tonight (opening night, woohoo!)
So, I'm going to try for a non spoilerish review of it, though I'll probably be referring to some trailer stuff a little because, well, otherwise, noones really going to know what I'm talking about I think.
Anyhows... I'll start with the bad news, folks and the reason for what I think the film is getting those 2/5 star reviews that have been mentioned.
Ok?
Ready?
It's not Captain America: Civil War.
No, I'm not making a point about a Disney conspiracy theory rant here. It's just a simple, honest fact. It's not Civil War. It's also not Deadpool. I know, shock horror, gasp, right? But in all seriousness, if you go in expecting Deadpool and Civil War, it's not gonna happen, it's an X-Men film, it's a sequel to Days of Future Past and First Class. You go in with that in your mind and you'll be good.
Ok, actual review time. Irrationally, I have a massive soft spot for Batman VS Superman. Conceptually I know it's a massively flawed film and all that sort of stuff that got the BvS thread locked. Rationally speaking though, using my brain and the pros and cons-ing it all up... X-Men: Apocalypse is my best film I've seen in the cinema this year. I know, I know, Deadpool and I like Deadpool. But, Deadpool is a different kind of film to Apocalypse (I'll be saying that a lot). It's a smaller, less 'epic' in scope story. If Deadpool is like "Taken" then Apocalypse is probably closer to "Black Hawk Down." Both good, actioney films (though I still maintain Deadpool is a romance) but they're different scales and I'm kinda into the grander, more epic scale myself.
So, comparisons to Civil War, since I started with that, again we're talking about a different thing here. Civil War had a large cast, but ultimately the story is about Cap, Bucky and Tony. Civil War did juggle all the additional characters really well and you're not going to see that sort of thing here. There is a (rather large) core group to the (very large) ensemble and if you're going to the film, for purely one of the non core group characters, you're probably gonna be disappointed. It's really an ensemble film though, it's about enjoying bits and pieces and slices from all these amazing various characters you love and leaves just enough for you to want more.
The cast, on the whole, are brilliant. The returning cast members are much what you've come to expect from them, just more awesomeness there. I didn't love Apocalypse at the start of the film, he kinda felt a bit out of place for a while. However, he grew on me by the time we got into the last act or so. The main new additions, Cyclops, Jean and Nightcrawler are great. Cyclops and Jean are way better than the original films, whereas Nightcrawler, to be perfect honestly, is practically identical to him in X-Men 2. And he was awesome in X-Men 2. He's also kinda adorable, which is a weird thing to say, but there it is. I also want to see a bit more of Storm too (it's that whole "bits and pieces and slices" thing again). One final cast comment, which I'm going to put in spoiler tags, just in case someone has very specifically not wanted to see the 3rd trailer.
Spoiler:
He's the best there is at what he does and what he does isn't very nice...
Ok, visualwise. Visually, I would describe it as, "like Batman VS Superman, in the daytime, when it's sunny." It kinda goes back to the, "grand, epic" thing I said at the start of the review. Like in BvS, you see these big huge vista like scenes and they're gorgeous and kinda terrifying too. The powers are great as well, which is kinda a thing that can be overlooked but yeah, watching the originals in the runup to this, they do have this extra 'oomph' now.
One of the big issues with BvS is that it very much felt like an 'incomplete' film due to terrible editing, aside from that, "wanting to see individual characters a little more" it felt very much like a complete film, no real editing issues I noticed. Maybe there will be a "Rogue Cut" like thing, that adds a bit more to some scenes, but I dunno, seemed complete to me.
There is humour in the film, not a MCU quip-a-thon, but there is humour (Particularly from Quicksilver), with a few giggly comic nods.
Spoiler:
The Blackbird gets blown up, yet again, as is traditional.
Oh, and there is an after credits scene, that's a hint towards the next film.
So yeah, anything I missed, anyone wanting to know more stuff?
I'm super looking forward to the next one, myself. Especially if they can get the Deadpool movie incarnation of Colossus into the gang too. - After all, he was giant and metal the whole time, who is to say what he looks like in his 'human' form.
So just to clarify, in the non-spoileryiest way possible please, when you say there's a hint at the next film, do you mean a direct sequel to this Trilogy, as in another actual X-men film, or the next one actually coming out, the third Wolverine movie? From what I recall, Fox hadn't announced there was another actual X-men film coming, but I'm totally down for as much as I can get of them!
Can't wait to see the new cast in action, probably going to try and see it next week once exams are out of the way.
Personally, I would say it's a direct hint to the next X-Men film, which feels like it will be a new 'phase' of the X-Men films.
However, it could very well be related to a Wolverine film but personally, I'd say that's less likely. However, I suppose it could be a setup for a Wolverine film that's a setup for an X-Men film....
Cool, I was hoping we'd get more with this new lineup. Good as the old trilogy is, a similar set of films made these days would just be far better made and have much higher production values, so if they can get some more made then bring it on!
Went to see it tonight. Decidedly ho hum, very average.
Cities blowing up - check
Magneto - battling his demons - check
A completely wasted Villian - check
Too many attempts at character development - check
Big CGI at the end - check
Xavier uniting everyone again - check
"baddies" turning into "goodies" - check.
Film by numbers at this point.
And again boy did they waste Apocs potential. Really :(
I just got back from watching this. My basic opinion: it's okay. Not amazing, not outright terrible, but okay.
The biggest problem with the film is the bad guys. As is typical for an X-Men film, there is a primary bad guy and his minions. Neither the primary bad guy nor the minions in this film really have any development, and more importantly no explanation for why the minions would go along with the bad guy. Otherwise, it is a fun and exciting film, with some good action scenes, entertaining characters, solid emotional moments, and great acting; but the plot and pacing let things down.
Some quick thoughts in spoiler tags:
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As a comics X-Men fan, albeit one that has not read the original Apocalypse storyline, I found it very jarring for Psylocke and Storm to be Horsemen of the Apocalypse, especially since they have about six lines of dialogue between them. Why would they join this insane nutjob? Did Storm not have any qualms when he started ripping her home city to pieces, presumably killing all her friends? I can think of reasons to explain this, but I kind of shouldn't have to provide my own justifications for the actions of people in a film this long.
The plot of the film was really odd. I suggest to you that they could have excised the section beginning with Havoc shooting at Apocalypse, and ending with the team leaving the Weapon-X facility, and lost absolutely nothing except the concept that Wolverine exists. Having the mansion blow up was there purely to give us another Quicksilver scene, which was fun and all, but it and the Weapon-X stuff just took up time that I would have preferred spent on character development of the mutants on both sides. In general the pacing of the film reminded me of BvS, and not in a good way.
The final battle really was very long. It felt like a third of the film was spent in Cairo. Cool battle though. I've already mentioned BvS, but this film's plot actually reminded me very strongly of X1; introduction of characters, bad guy doing thing that will kill humans, team awkwardly assembles to fight him, they arrive and have a series of 1on1 fights prior to a team takedown of the bad guy. Maybe I'm trying too hard with that comparison?
I really liked that they pulled the line about 'I feel a swell of pity for the poor fool who comes to my school looking for trouble' wholesale from X2. In many ways, this film tried to fit into its own franchise; it did that well, but perhaps spent too much time on it. A lot of time was also spent on looking forwards, with the Phoenix Force, Magneto as Dad, Weapon-X stuff all taking up minutes for presumably future film use. A definite flaw of the shared universe thing, and this film shared Age of Ultron's tendency to overdo it.
Apocalypse was not really that compelling. The comparison that I saw on Reddit to Malekith from Thor 2 seems about right: really cool guy, impossible to defeat, but not that memorable. Happily his death appears to open up the franchise to move forward with what looks like a solid and entertaining core of characters and actors, and a team that finally is starting to resemble the comics in tone. Cyclops was good, and I genuinely enjoyed the banter between him and Jean Grey. Shame about Havoc though, he was starting to get really cool.
I don't think that Hugh Jackman made the film better by his appearance. I'm also getting very bored of Magneto in the films - his constant wavering from good to bad, and his never-ending increase in power, is starting to really bog the franchise down. There are other mutants in the universe, you know.
Out of the three big superhero films of the summer, I'd say that this ranks third, coming behind Civil War (the superior film, with no big flaws) and Batman vs Superman (a flawed but very interesting film). Deadpool I wouldn't bother comparing with the other three. I'd recommend a watch of this, but not if you don't like Superhero films as a genre that much; it doesn't transcend the genre to become generically good films in the same way as The Dark Knight, Winter Soldier, or Days of Future Past did.
Finally got to see the film witha coupe of friends...........
And we all really enjoyed it
I think it was nearly as good as Cap A 3 and way way better than Sups vs Bats - at least they had a proper bad guy and not the travesty that was Loopy Lex
Good:
Quicksilver - just so very cool every time he was on screen
Opening scene - my friend who is a big into ancient Egypt and a amateaur archaelogist - she really liked some of the details. It was a great opener - similar in coolness to the Bats vs Sups opening which was also really good.
Whole Weapon X story in 10 mins - nice - I remember buying that comic which took so very long to not really tell the story............
Psylocke and Storm looked good Nightcrawler worked
Danger Room
Pheonix
Bad
Not much really - been nice to see a bit of back story for some people but there was little time - maybe in the future.
Having shout outs to comics doesn't make a comic book film good. Plotwise, this was more of a mess than either "vs" movies this year. It had some memorable moments, probably moreso than either BvS or Cap3...but moments strung along wildly don't make a film.
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I can understand Angel (who is hinted at being a long enslaved fighter) and Magneto as willing to join Apocalypse, but Psylocke had ZERO character development and Storm being okay with her city and friends getting scorched made no sense.
trexmeyer wrote: Having shout outs to comics doesn't make a comic book film good. Plotwise, this was more of a mess than either "vs" movies this year. It had some memorable moments, probably moreso than either BvS or Cap3...but moments strung along wildly don't make a film.
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I can understand Angel (who is hinted at being a long enslaved fighter) and Magneto as willing to join Apocalypse, but Psylocke had ZERO character development and Storm being okay with her city and friends getting scorched made no sense.
Well thats an opinion - mine is the opposite - it had a plot - stargate like but in keeping with Appocalypse who is very one dimensional in the comics..
It was pretty obvious he gave all his horsemen massively increased power - and with Psylocke reimagined as a Aassassin for hire and Storm as a street kid - that made perfect sense. why wouldn't they go along with him?
The plot n BvsS made much less sense - and the whole - "oh right our mothers name is the same so we are now best buds" plus every single moment Loopy Lex was on screen ruined that film.
Just got back. Really enjoyed most of it, Nightcrawler was awesome, I LOVED the reimagined 90s costumes that showed up in places and felt it was a nice touch. Don't feel that needed to be spoilered. Anyway, spoilers below about what I didn't feel was right.
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Jean=deus ex machina. She tapped into Phoenix force just as necessary. I would have rather had Magneto rip Apocalypse in half to kill him, as it would have paid tribute to Age of Apocalypse's ending. And fans of the comic would cheer.
Munn, despite being a geek and X-men lover really didn't do much except stand menacing. You'd have thought she'd fight harder for a bigger role than 2 lines.
Havoc dying wasn't shown. I predicted his death the moment he brought Cyclops in though. Sad to see him go.
Just like Amazing Spider-Man 2 was actually Amazing Emma Stone and her sidekick Peter, this movie was Jennifer Lawrence and her gifted friends.
I swear that I did like the movie though!! And my friends turned to ask me what the Easter egg at the end meant. A good spoiler for any real X-Men fans, meaningless for those who don't know all the characters/villains "human" names. Explained below, for anybody who needs clarification.
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Mr. Sinister in the house!!!
Also, I assume Angel being in this and 3 and being around the same age in both is going with that whole ripple in time thing that makes him born at a different point and not as the son of Warren Worthington Jr.?
Psylocke being non-Asian is fine as she started British and turned Asian later was totally fine to fit into an X3 timeline, with or without the "time ripples".
I saw the movie yesterday and really enjoyed it. Especially all the hot chicks! The casting was really good, as a lot of the characters actually look like the actors and actresses who played those characters in the original X-men trilogy.
Just got back, thought it was utterly fantastic, hot on the heels of BvS (likely to be my No.1 for some time) and surpassing (just) Civil War. Old cast were great, new cast were great, the film as a whole was the most comic booky the X-men have ever been on screen and the action sequences were great as expected
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As one of the few fans of Wolverine Origins, I was kind of annoyed they basically replaced that whole film with one (admittedly excellent) scene, but the callbacks to pretty much every previous X-movie were definitely welcome. Likewise, the potential for future films is exciting, the team lineup in the awesome closing scene is definitely one I want to see more of, both as cast and characters (and the amazing proper costumes!). Psyloke I expect we'll see more of, given she was the only one of the Horsemen not to die/turn.
Performances were strong as I've come to expect from X-men, Fassbender and McAvoy stealing the screen as usual, but Quicksilver and Nightcrawler did add a more light hearted edge.
In short, I reckon this new X-trilogy is perhaps the my favourite comic movie trilogy, rivalled only by the Dark Knight. 2016 is on a roll with BvS, Civil War and now Apoc, here's hoping Suicide Squad and Doc Strange can keep that going and give us a year of amazing comic book films.
Paradigm wrote: In short, I reckon this new X-trilogy is perhaps the my favourite comic movie trilogy, rivalled only by the Dark Knight. 2016 is on a roll with BvS, Civil War and now Apoc, here's hoping Suicide Squad and Doc Strange can keep that going and give us a year of amazing comic book films.
Don't forget about Deadpool! THAT is my personal favorite comic book movie of the year (so far).
To be honest, I really don't get the appeal of Deadpool, it seems to just be a load of gratuitous violence, crude 'jokes' and jarring 4th wall breaks... I appreciate that that is what the character is about, and that a lot of people enjoyed it, but I doubt I'll ever watch it.
Paradigm wrote: To be honest, I really don't get the appeal of Deadpool, it seems to just be a load of gratuitous violence, crude 'jokes' and jarring 4th wall breaks... I appreciate that that is what the character is about, and that a lot of people enjoyed it, but I doubt I'll ever watch it.
That is my view - I never liked him in the comics and so did not bother with the film precisely as seemed to reflect the comic character very well.................
It was a major hit though and lots enjoyed it a lot...............just not my scene...............
And yay, my favorite superhero and mancrush is back!!! I wonder how jacked he'll be this go around. God, I would love to be as vascular as him. 
