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 Breotan wrote:
I guess Guatemalans look like ancient Egyptians. Seriously, why can't Hollywood hire actors who are ethnically accurate for ethnic character roles? If Apoc is still supposed to be ancient Egyptian, get an Egyptian actor ffs. They hired Omar Sharif for the role of the Arab resistance leader in Lawrence of Arabia.

I want to see native Greek actresses for Wonder Woman and Electra. A Russian for Black Widow. I want to see Harley Quinn talking with a Brooklyn (Queens?) accent. Captain Britain needs to be British and Doctor Freaking Doom had damned well better be from some Serbo/Croatian state somewhere.

Seriously, would people be fine if they cast Channing Tatum as James Bond? Hell, no. There'd be riots in the streets of London until they changed their minds.

/rant

Sure, and only Danes -- Olivier, Branagh, etc. -- could ever play Hamlet. It was Brando's strong Italian heritage that made him magnetic in The Godfather. Who can forget how Clark Gable's Southern roots brought authenticity to his role in GWTW?

Henry "The Fonz" Winkler -- every bit as Italian as Gibson is Scottish, and that's a lot!

 gorgon wrote:

 Breotan wrote:
I guess Guatemalans look like ancient Egyptians. Seriously, why can't Hollywood hire actors who are ethnically accurate for ethnic character roles? If Apoc is still supposed to be ancient Egyptian, get an Egyptian actor ffs. They hired Omar Sharif for the role of the Arab resistance leader in Lawrence of Arabia.

I want to see native Greek actresses for Wonder Woman and Electra. A Russian for Black Widow. I want to see Harley Quinn talking with a Brooklyn (Queens?) accent. Captain Britain needs to be British and Doctor Freaking Doom had damned well better be from some Serbo/Croatian state somewhere.

Seriously, would people be fine if they cast Channing Tatum as James Bond? Hell, no. There'd be riots in the streets of London until they changed their minds.

/rant

Sure, and only Danes -- Olivier, Branagh, etc. -- could ever play Hamlet. It was Brando's strong Italian heritage that made him magnetic in The Godfather. Who can forget how Clark Gable's Southern roots brought authenticity to his role in GWTW?

Henry "The Fonz" Winkler -- every bit as Italian as Gibson is Scottish, and that's a lot!

At least Henry Winkler was from New York which is where his character is supposed to be from. Gibson should never have played a Scot. Seriously, there are hundreds of Scottish actors in England so you'd think one of them would be good for that part.

Brando is overrated and... aw, who am I kidding? I just don't like Brando. I think casting an actual Italian would have been better - the character is supposed to be from the "old country" after all.

I really wonder what Hamlet would be like if they used actors from Denmark speaking English but in a danish accent for Hamlet and his family.

Clark Gable is a perfect example of what I'm railing against. His selection as Rhett Butler and Charlton Heston's casting as Ramon Vargas in Touch of Evil are the epitome of what is wrong with Hollywood casting.

I really, really am not a fan of Apocalypse. I get that they wanted to go with the Egyptian thing....but he looks like he'd be more at home in a Stargate movie.

I just don't think that Oscar Issacs looks the part. At all.... And I was previously optimistic....

You guys are being hellapicky - everything looks OK for a superhero movie!

 Alpharius wrote:
You guys are being hellapicky - everything looks OK for a superhero movie!

Jennifer Garner. Go ahead, Alph. Defend that.

 Frazzled wrote:
Here's a thought. Don't do any more wolverine movies.

That's crazy talk.

 Breotan wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
You guys are being hellapicky - everything looks OK for a superhero movie!

Jennifer Garner. Go ahead, Alph. Defend that.

I was talking about what we've seen so far for *this* movie!

Saw this earlier on twitter.



Pretty darn accurate.

Sure, but Apocalypse has always looked incredibly doofy. It's like being upset that Jubilee is bright, or that you can't see Cyclops' smug eyes. Big powerful, and dumb, like a less committed and angry Juggernaut seems about right to me.

He appears to be neither big nor powerful in that photo.

 Breotan wrote:
I guess Guatemalans look like ancient Egyptians.

Yeah, 'cause Apoc looks SOOOOOO much like your traditional North African.

What are you saying? Aren't they all blue?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Apocalypse looks like a Power Rangers villain.

Psylocke looks fantastic.

Agreed!! Hot Psylocke in an almost perfect replica of her comic costume. I think I'm in love!!

 Breotan wrote:
I guess Guatemalans look like ancient Egyptians. Seriously, why can't Hollywood hire actors who are ethnically accurate for ethnic character roles? If Apoc is still supposed to be ancient Egyptian, get an Egyptian actor ffs. They hired Omar Sharif for the role of the Arab resistance leader in Lawrence of Arabia.

In fairness, it's kind of difficult at this point because a modern Egyptian actor isn't necessarily going to be "ethnically accurate" for an ancient Egyptian role.

The whole egyptian actor point is moot. Apocalypse in "modern" times has a very specific look. They fethed that look the same way they fethed juggernaut.

*shutters*


Uhg.... You had to mention the Juggernaut.

 Soladrin wrote:
The whole egyptian actor point is moot. Apocalypse in "modern" times has a very specific look. They fethed that look the same way they fethed juggernaut.

Let's be honest, now. There was no way possible to make Jugger's helmet look cool in a live action movie.

When cosplayers so it better...

You know, now that I think about it the movie apocalypse looks like a cardassian from star trek.
GG

 generalgrog wrote:
You know, now that I think about it the movie apocalypse looks like a cardassian from star trek.
GG

Or Ivan Ooze from Power Rangers.

He looks like Ivan Ooze. Too bad too, he looked great at the end of DoFP.

Apparently this is more accurate to what he looks like in post CG editing, which is an improvement for sure.

 AduroT wrote:
When cosplayers so it better...

As cosplay of a cartoon character, sure.

Apocalypse copied straight from the comic in a live action movie though would just look ridiculous .

 insaniak wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
When cosplayers so it better...

As cosplay of a cartoon character, sure.

Apocalypse copied straight from the comic in a live action movie though would just look ridiculous .

If you gave that cosplay outfit the same amount of professional artists and CGI work it would look a lot better then the one we have. Not everything in the comics needs to be remade for live action.

Whether or not it needs to be isn't really the entire point, though.

Some people expect live action adaptions to be as close as possible to the source... and that's fine, but it also leads to constant disappointment.

For me, translating something into a movie from a different genre, whether that's a comic, a book, a cartoon, a boardgame... whatever... it doesn't have to be an exact match for the original. Better if it isn't really, since that sort of removes any point in doing it.

So whether or not movie-Apocalypse is a direct 1:1 match for comicbook-Apocalypse is, for me, far less important tham just whether or not he's an interesting villain in the movie.

Well said, Insaniak! Totally agree.

 insaniak wrote:
So whether or not movie-Apocalypse is a direct 1:1 match for comicbook-Apocalypse is, for me, far less important tham just whether or not he's an interesting villain in the movie.

A lot of people aren't saying "He sucks 'cuz he don't match da comics!", they're saying he sucks because he looks stupid.

And he looks stupid!

 generalgrog wrote:
Apocalypse looks horribad

the others don't look good either.
Reminds of a cheap dnd cosplay.

GG

Yeah he looks terrible. He should be a lot taller than the regular mutants, and he just looks lame compared to the comics


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 insaniak wrote:
Whether or not it needs to be isn't really the entire point, though.

Some people expect live action adaptions to be as close as possible to the source... and that's fine, but it also leads to constant disappointment.

For me, translating something into a movie from a different genre, whether that's a comic, a book, a cartoon, a boardgame... whatever... it doesn't have to be an exact match for the original. Better if it isn't really, since that sort of removes any point in doing it.

So whether or not movie-Apocalypse is a direct 1:1 match for comicbook-Apocalypse is, for me, far less important tham just whether or not he's an interesting villain in the movie.

But he looks terrible. Looks like an old power ranger villain

 AduroT wrote:
Apparently this is more accurate to what he looks like in post CG editing, which is an improvement for sure.

Definitely better, especially the face, but still too much purple. This is almost Mr. Freeze in Batman forever bad.

GG

 insaniak wrote:

For me, translating something into a movie from a different genre, whether that's a comic, a book, a cartoon, a boardgame... whatever... it doesn't have to be an exact match for the original. Better if it isn't really, since that sort of removes any point in doing it.

So whether or not movie-Apocalypse is a direct 1:1 match for comicbook-Apocalypse is, for me, far less important tham just whether or not he's an interesting villain in the movie.

Well said, I agree entirely.

Take, for example, Heath Ledger's Joker or even Hiddleston's Loki; neither are particularly close to their comic book (or animated, or video game) counterparts (especially Ledger; all he really shares with the comics is the name and the suit), but both rank among the best movie villains of the 21st century. They work in the contexts of their respective films, and ultimately that matters more than whether the costume, haircut or anything else matches the source.