Found this while browsing - is this a plastic resculpt for lemartes? I've heard nothing regarding blood angels in any rumour mills - what do you think dakka?
It's gotta be plastic and all new. My guess is a generic chaplain but Lemartes is not out of the question. Maybe a duel kit?
Either way it's pretty great. Worth picking up just to paint. I love that they have gotten so much movement into it. It's almost like an Infinity or Malifaux model in that regard.
Dreadclaw69 wrote: Other than the Chapter badge on the knee I would have had the model pegged as Angels Sanginue on account of the split red/black armour.
It's a Chaplain, so the colour's more to do with that than anything else.
looks like a sanguinary guard style mono-jet jump pack.
The armour really is curious with the split theme.
Compared to the elaborate sanguinary priest that looked like it was supposed to be Corbulo, this is probably generic chappy after all.
I just hope i dont have to buy a large campaign box to get it.
Welp. I liked the look of that tech priest and was weighing up the 50 odd dollars it would have cost, and might have even payed that much for it if I held it in my hand and found the detail good.
With all the gak GWs has pulled over the years, and considering the insane pricing of the character minis displays, I'm pretty sure this isn't a misprint.
Oh wow, an engineseer that no one ever used and a possible tank commander (?) which, if not clampack, simply means more extra bits as theres simply no point in actual static/clampack model, since there are sooo many ways to kitbash yo own, unique commander
Also, wth with 45 gbp? I guess it comes with a whole Leman Russ tank?
I'm pretty sure it's just the current Leman Russ kit, the Tank Squadron Upgrade Frame they released with Spearhead 3-4 years ago (was it June 2011 or June 2012, can't remember) and a new Techpriest. There isn't even a special tank commander, just the stock one from the box. (at least, from what I can tell from the pictures)
Imo, its without the upgrade kit. 31 for Russ + 8 or 9 for upgrade kit, which leaves 5-6 gbp for the techpriest. Which isnt likely to happen. Unless its a saving type box, like the chimera+guardsmen box they used to sell.
Matt.Kingsley wrote: I'm pretty sure it's just the current Leman Russ kit, the Tank Squadron Upgrade Frame they released with Spearhead 3-4 years ago (was it June 2011 or June 2012, can't remember) and a new Techpriest. There isn't even a special tank commander, just the stock one from the box. (at least, from what I can tell from the pictures)
The Squadron Upgrade kit is older than that. It came out initially with Apocalypse.
Spoiler:
I've been meaning to get one of the new Leman Russes to build a Vanquisher, and I love Tech-Priests.
The upgrade kit is only 5 gbp, which means the Techpriest is only 9 gpb.
I doubt GW would use the upgrade sprue on the Leman Russ they're using to sell the box if it wasn't going to be included as well. Then again, this is GW...
Dreadclaw69 wrote: Other than the Chapter badge on the knee I would have had the model pegged as Angels Sanginue on account of the split red/black armour.
It's a Chaplain, so the colour's more to do with that than anything else.
Before this miniature GW had not habituallt painted Blood Angels Chaplains in a split vertical scheme
Dreadclaw69 wrote: Other than the Chapter badge on the knee I would have had the model pegged as Angels Sanginue on account of the split red/black armour.
It's a Chaplain, so the colour's more to do with that than anything else.
Before this miniature GW had not habituallt painted Blood Angels Chaplains in a split vertical scheme
I don't think he has a split vertical scheme.
Backpack is completely black. Armour on both arms and legs is black.
He just has more red than usual on the Astorath-style sinewy bits, which no miniature pre-dating Astroath had, as well as the odd death company cross, red seal, red cord, red weapon handle and the red wings.
I missed this initially, but the "split vertical scheme" aligns with two different material looks.
His right side is the sinewy look ala Astorath/Mephiston while his left is standard power armor.
That's kind of a cool touch. Just wish they had made a generic plastic Jump Pack Chaplain instead of two more Blood Angels specific characters.
Blood Angels now have the most plastic characters(Terminator Librarian, Sanguinary Priest, Terminator Captain, and Jump Pack Chaplain) of any GW range, on par with the Khorne Bloodbound(Slaughterpriest, Skullgrinder, Exalted Deathbringer, Skarr Bloodwrath) and less than the Stormcast Eternals(Celestant-Prime, Lord-Castellant, Knight Azyros/Knight Venator, Lord-Celestant, Knight-Vexillor/Knight-Heraldor).
Also, man. When are we going to get the Strike Force Ultra Terminator Captain?!
It could be them getting a new Detachment in the next supplement book, or it could just be a random Blood Angels release with no ties to the next supplement.
As a Blood Angel and Astra Millitarum player who adores both armies and is waiting for some formations to bring my armies up to the real 7th edition standards... The hype train has left the station!
diepotato47 wrote: As a Blood Angel and Astra Millitarum player who adores both armies and is waiting for some formations to bring my armies up to the real 7th edition standards... The hype train has left the station!
Formations alone won't bring Guard up to 7th edition status. They really need their whole book revised.
Kanluwen wrote: It could be them getting a new Detachment in the next supplement book, or it could just be a random Blood Angels release with no ties to the next supplement.
I am betting it is the latter. Though considering the Damocles Crusade happens in 742M41 to 745M41, and the Shield of Baal is 998M41, they don't conflict with each other. The timeline in the Blood Angels Codex doesn't have any dates that conflict with that, so it is possible that the Blood Angels were mobilized to hunt down Farsight.
If they get new stuff, great. If not, at least I will be getting that awesome new Chaplain. I already have Karlaen, so no need for that model for me.
Kanluwen wrote: It could be them getting a new Detachment in the next supplement book, or it could just be a random Blood Angels release with no ties to the next supplement.
I am betting it is the latter. Though considering the Damocles Crusade happens in 742M41 to 745M41, and the Shield of Baal is 998M41, they don't conflict with each other. The timeline in the Blood Angels Codex doesn't have any dates that conflict with that, so it is possible that the Blood Angels were mobilized to hunt down Farsight.
This isn't the Damocles Gulf Crusade.
Prefectia(what Kauyon covers) takes place in 999.M41.
The Tau are really limited as to where they can be used, since they're not Warp-capable.
Kanluwen wrote: It could be them getting a new Detachment in the next supplement book, or it could just be a random Blood Angels release with no ties to the next supplement.
I am betting it is the latter. Though considering the Damocles Crusade happens in 742M41 to 745M41, and the Shield of Baal is 998M41, they don't conflict with each other. The timeline in the Blood Angels Codex doesn't have any dates that conflict with that, so it is possible that the Blood Angels were mobilized to hunt down Farsight.
This isn't the Damocles Gulf Crusade.
Prefectia(what Kauyon covers) takes place in 999.M41.
The Tau are really limited as to where they can be used, since they're not Warp-capable.
Oh durr. That makes a lot more sense then. Still, the last thing in the Blood Angels timeline is the Shield of Baal, which takes place in 998.M41, so there is a small possibility of there being Blood Angels in the next book. I am not counting on it, though. They would probably do something stupid like kill Dante or Mephiston in it anyway.
Kanluwen wrote: Dante and Mephiston have models. They're safe.
Captain Aphael will likely be the one to die then. We know where Tycho dies, so it won't be him. A number of bad things could befall the Blood Angels when fighting the Weeaboos.
Is the terminator captain the model from Deathstorm?
The price of the assassins is insane. £19 for a single mono pose plastic model. For the price of all four you can buy a starter box for any game I can name, all of which will contain a couple of small armies.
Tamereth wrote: Is the terminator captain the model from Deathstorm?
The price of the assassins is insane. £19 for a single mono pose plastic model. For the price of all four you can buy a starter box for any game I can name, all of which will contain a couple of small armies.
And the price hike continues...
Automatically Appended Next Post: Out of curiosity, I just checked on GW - the existing Vindicare costs £9.50.
Tamereth wrote: Is the terminator captain the model from Deathstorm?
The price of the assassins is insane. £19 for a single mono pose plastic model. For the price of all four you can buy a starter box for any game I can name, all of which will contain a couple of small armies.
Yep, that's Karlean from Deathstorm.
I am amazed when people pay these prices for clampack characters. I mean, for the same or less than a plastic Space Marine HQ from GW you could pick up a Forge World character model (40k rather than 30k, as you don't then have to pay extra for a huge chunk of resin on the base), for a few quid more you could get a full squad in plastic and convert several Captains/Chaplains/Librarians/Whatever, or even get one of the Forge World Command Sets that are all awesome (£27 for a Captain and Standard Bearer vs £20 just for the Captain? It's a no-brainer!)
When Forge World is the affordable alternative, something has gone badly wrong... although FW have had a few sneaky prince increases of their own, I don't recall Huron being £21 or Loth and retinue coming it at £41...
Tamereth wrote: Is the terminator captain the model from Deathstorm?
The price of the assassins is insane. £19 for a single mono pose plastic model. For the price of all four you can buy a starter box for any game I can name, all of which will contain a couple of small armies.
Yep, that's Karlean from Deathstorm.
I am amazing when people pay these prices for clampack characters. I mean, for the same or less than a plastic Space Marine HQ from GW you could pick up a Forge World character model (40k rather than 30k, as you don't then have to pay extra for a huge chunk of resin on the base), for a few quid more you could get a full squad in plastic and convert several Captains/Chaplains/Librarians/Whatever, or even get one of the Forge World Command Sets that are all awesome (£27 for a Captain and Standard Bearer vs £20 just for the Captain? It's a no-brainer!)
When Forge World is the affordable alternative, something has gone badly wrong... although FW have had a few sneaky prince increases of their own, I don't recall Huron being £21 or Loth and retinue coming it at £41...
Not that I think $32 or whatever is a reasonable price for the assassins >.< ... but... I would pay more for a plastic GW version of a character than a resin Forge World version of the same character, all things being equal. I hate the amount of work that goes into preparing a resin character, plus the resin characters are made out of much fewer pieces, making them less suitable for conversions.
I think Karlaen can be had pretty cheap on eBay, fortunately (because of all the copies of Deathstorm). I'll buy the chaplain for sure; and I already got the assassins from the game box. I suppose some time in the future when I go back to IG, I might get the command tank upgrade, but who knows when that will be.
Incidentally, the FW models still come out a lot more expensive for me, either way. They cost around 20 GBP plus shipping -- Or you have to order 250GBP, and then they double-tax it, even though there's free shipping, and there's the UPS brokerage fee. And, no discount from independent store. Ick :(
Wilson wrote: So the heresy board game just went up £20???
Obviously the bean counters at GW realized it was "too good of a deal" and sought to fix that. I completely believe the price increase is coming. And just when I had hoped they would start to be reasonable.... /sigh
Wilson wrote: So the heresy board game just went up £20???
Obviously the bean counters at GW realized it was "too good of a deal" and sought to fix that. I completely believe the price increase is coming. And just when I had hoped they would start to be reasonable.... /sigh
Jesus Christ people.
THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT THE PRICE IS GOING UP. THIS IS FROM VISIONS, WHICH IS PRODUCED MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
Wilson wrote: So the heresy board game just went up £20???
Obviously the bean counters at GW realized it was "too good of a deal" and sought to fix that. I completely believe the price increase is coming. And just when I had hoped they would start to be reasonable.... /sigh
Maybe you could do that for a start, being reasonable? There is no price rise at all.
Edit: Ninja'ed
Produced, Kanlu, but I'm sure you meant that
Edit 2: For those still in doubt, please read todays post from Hastings, the original HH rumor source (He leaked it all back in Feb 2015)
Sorry to nitpick.... Warhammer: Visions, not White Dwarf: Visions, hehe.
If everyone recalls, one of the original rumors was for Betrayal to be at 3 figures instead of 2 figures (GBP). Glad they dropped the price back down before it was released.
OTOH, I would guess that the clampack prices are accurate.
Well, yeah! There's a reason all my Captains, Chaplains and Librarians are stater set models or kitbashes!
Besides named characters, most of mine are as well. I put a Death Company moptop head on my Librarian, combined bits from the BA Tactical Squad and the SM Commander to make my Captain(He also has an Iron Halo from the BA Terminators and a magnetized Jump Pack from Vanguard Vets), and may give this Chaplain a Bolt Pistol instead on an Inferno Pistol so it can fill in for Lemartes if needed (PLEASE let there be a formation that uses Lemartes!). Dante, Mephiston, and Karlaen are largely unaltered though. I wish I had put a helmet on my Sanguinary Priest too.
Wilson wrote: So the heresy board game just went up £20???
Obviously the bean counters at GW realized it was "too good of a deal" and sought to fix that. I completely believe the price increase is coming. And just when I had hoped they would start to be reasonable.... /sigh
Jesus Christ people.
THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT THE PRICE IS GOING UP. THIS IS FROM WHITE DWARF: VISIONS, WHICH IS PUBLISHED MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
A cooling down period is advised...
Though honestly we need to wait for a while. There are too many variables. As Talys said, the only "reasonable" pricing looks to be the clampacks. We don't know if it's not a misprint.
Wilson wrote: So the heresy board game just went up £20???
Obviously the bean counters at GW realized it was "too good of a deal" and sought to fix that. I completely believe the price increase is coming. And just when I had hoped they would start to be reasonable.... /sigh
Jesus Christ people.
THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT THE PRICE IS GOING UP. THIS IS FROM WHITE DWARF: VISIONS, WHICH IS PUBLISHED MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
A cooling down period is advised...
No, what's advised is people actually stop posting and start thinking. They're not going to put it up for preorder at one price, let it go all the way until release, and then up the price at the end of the month. When GW sets prices? They leave them there until they rebox things again.
Though honestly we need to wait for a while. There are too many variables. As Talys said, the only "reasonable" pricing looks to be the clampacks. We don't know if it's not a misprint.
Reasonable in what regards? The Leman Russ box listed there is "reasonable" if you do the math--$8.25 for the Squadron Upgrade Frame, $49.50 for a Leman Russ, and probably $29 for the Techpriest Enginseer.
Since it's a single box and they seem to imply that it is a "bundle" to start with, it's not unreasonable to think that they are putting the Squadron Upgrade Frame in for the "discounted" piece.
I am hoping the Clampacks are inaccurate, actually. The last two Clampack Space Marines were the Interrogator-Chaplain($30) and the Terminator Librarian($31). Before that, we had the BA Terminator Librarian($30) and Sanguinary Priest($30). So these new Clampacks are $2-3 more than comparable models released only months ago.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I am hoping the Clampacks are inaccurate, actually. The last two Clampack Space Marines were the Interrogator-Chaplain($30) and the Terminator Librarian($31). Before that, we had the BA Terminator Librarian($30) and Sanguinary Priest($30). So these new Clampacks are $2-3 more than comparable models released only months ago.
Where is that unreasonable? As if GW doesn't hike prices for singular miniatures as well.
Wilson wrote: So the heresy board game just went up £20???
Obviously the bean counters at GW realized it was "too good of a deal" and sought to fix that. I completely believe the price increase is coming. And just when I had hoped they would start to be reasonable.... /sigh
Maybe you could do that for a start, being reasonable? There is no price rise at all.
Edit: Ninja'ed
Produced, Kanlu, but I'm sure you meant that
Edit 2: For those still in doubt, please read todays post from Hastings, the original HH rumor source (He leaked it all back in in Feb 2015)
Or maybe, you should lose the attitude. If you know anything at all about GW, a price increase of this nature is completely in their nature. Good day sir.
Or maybe, you should lose the attitude. If you know anything at all about GW, a price increase of this nature is completely in their nature. Good day sir.
Name the last time they put something up for preorder and bumped the price a week later.
It's not something I'd put past them in fairness though. And it's not like people were freaking out over some rumourmonger source, it was in an official GW publication. So while I see where you're coming from, the attitude wasn't completely necessary.
And saying that when prices are set they don't change isn't true, they recently amended Skarbrands price. Not the exact same situation as here and it was in the other direction but your statement as it reads isn't true.
Or maybe, you should lose the attitude. If you know anything at all about GW, a price increase of this nature is completely in their nature. Good day sir.
Name the last time they put something up for preorder and bumped the price a week later.
Considering it would result in litigation in many countries (the United States especially), I am guessing somewhere on this side of NEVER.
Wilson wrote: So the heresy board game just went up £20???
Obviously the bean counters at GW realized it was "too good of a deal" and sought to fix that. I completely believe the price increase is coming. And just when I had hoped they would start to be reasonable.... /sigh
Jesus Christ people.
THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT THE PRICE IS GOING UP. THIS IS FROM WHITE DWARF: VISIONS, WHICH IS PUBLISHED MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
A cooling down period is advised...
No, what's advised is people actually stop posting and start thinking. They're not going to put it up for preorder at one price, let it go all the way until release, and then up the price at the end of the month. When GW sets prices? They leave them there until they rebox things again.
Though honestly we need to wait for a while. There are too many variables. As Talys said, the only "reasonable" pricing looks to be the clampacks. We don't know if it's not a misprint.
Reasonable in what regards? The Leman Russ box listed there is "reasonable" if you do the math--$8.25 for the Squadron Upgrade Frame, $49.50 for a Leman Russ, and probably $29 for the Techpriest Enginseer.
Since it's a single box and they seem to imply that it is a "bundle" to start with, it's not unreasonable to think that they are putting the Squadron Upgrade Frame in for the "discounted" piece.
Sorry but...who are you to know how GW wants to milk the first 30k plastic figures ever released? They will do as they want to increase their profit - it's the only common thing in GW's behaviour - they do what the feth they want to do for profit's sake. And it's not like we don't have examples of pre-orders being cheaper to encourage early purchase. E.g - EA put Battlefront preorder at a 20% discount. And it's happening right now, just go to Origins.
And the clampack prices are reasonable in the fact that they fit into the usually single model price hike. Go take a look at the steady increase in clampack prices. Go on. we'll be waiting right here.
Or maybe, you should lose the attitude. If you know anything at all about GW, a price increase of this nature is completely in their nature. Good day sir.
Name the last time they put something up for preorder and bumped the price a week later.
Name the last time GW said "You can use the rules for the units in your previous Codex so you don't need to buy this one" before Tau.
Name the last time GW scrapped 30 years of fluff and crunching building for a beer and pretzels game before FB was put down to AoS.
ImAGeek wrote: It's not something I'd put past them in fairness though. And it's not like people were freaking out over some rumourmonger source, it was in an official GW publication. So while I see where you're coming from, the attitude wasn't completely necessary.
And saying that when prices are set they don't change isn't true, they recently amended Skarbrands price. Not the exact same situation as here and it was in the other direction but your statement as it reads isn't true.
A price decrease after the fact is not generally against the law, only a price increase.
ImAGeek wrote: It's not something I'd put past them in fairness though. And it's not like people were freaking out over some rumourmonger source, it was in an official GW publication. So while I see where you're coming from, the attitude wasn't completely necessary.
And saying that when prices are set they don't change isn't true, they recently amended Skarbrands price. Not the exact same situation as here and it was in the other direction but your statement as it reads isn't true.
A price decrease after the fact is not generally against the law, only a price increase.
I don't think a price increase is against the law... If they charge the same people who thought they're were buying it at one price more then yeah but if next week they put the price up, that's not. Not that they are or that that really has anything to do with what I was saying.
ImAGeek wrote: It's not something I'd put past them in fairness though. And it's not like people were freaking out over some rumourmonger source, it was in an official GW publication. So while I see where you're coming from, the attitude wasn't completely necessary.
And saying that when prices are set they don't change isn't true, they recently amended Skarbrands price. Not the exact same situation as here and it was in the other direction but your statement as it reads isn't true.
A price decrease after the fact is not generally against the law, only a price increase.
I don't think a price increase is against the law... If they charge the same people who thought they're were buying it at one price more then yeah but if next week they put the price up, that's not. Not that they are or that that really has anything to do with what I was saying.
It isn't against the law - people who would to sue for this would be having a lovely time going to court for pretty much nothing... except wasting money.
Sorry but...who are you to know how GW wants to milk the first 30k plastic figures ever released? They will do as they want to increase their profit - it's the only common thing in GW's behaviour - they do what the feth they want to do for profit's sake. And it's not like we don't have examples of pre-orders being cheaper to encourage early purchase. E.g - EA put Battlefront preorder at a 20% discount. And it's happening right now, just go to Origins.
AND IT IS CLEARLY MARKED THAT PREORDERS GET A DISCOUNT.
Seriously. Do you not understand the difference between "If you preorder now, you get it for X% cheaper!" and "Preorder this now because on Saturday after it comes out it will be a different price but we won't tell you that"?
And the clampack prices are reasonable in the fact that they fit into the usually single model price hike. Go take a look at the steady increase in clampack prices. Go on. we'll be waiting right here.
I never said that those prices weren't reasonable. The person who I had replied to stated that "the only "reasonable" pricing looks to be the clampacks". I replied that the Leman Russ box looks reasonable as well, considering everything listed implies it is a boxed set ala what we're seeing for Skitarii, Space Marines, and Cult Mechanicus.
And yeah, you're absolutely right that it does fit into the single model price hike. Which further supports my point as they don't bump prices randomly, they do it either through an increased price in the next release of a model or when they first release the model to begin with.
The precedent excuse is starting to run thin.
The "precedent excuse" for their standard business practices are not the same thing as them trying new release strategies.
ImAGeek wrote: It's not something I'd put past them in fairness though. And it's not like people were freaking out over some rumourmonger source, it was in an official GW publication. So while I see where you're coming from, the attitude wasn't completely necessary.
And saying that when prices are set they don't change isn't true, they recently amended Skarbrands price. Not the exact same situation as here and it was in the other direction but your statement as it reads isn't true.
A price decrease after the fact is not generally against the law, only a price increase.
I don't think a price increase is against the law... If they charge the same people who thought they're were buying it at one price more then yeah but if next week they put the price up, that's not. Not that they are or that that really has anything to do with what I was saying.
When a price is advertised, like the Betrayal at Calth was on the GW website, and suddenly GW ups that price by $35 after people make their preorders, that would be false advertising and they would get their pants sued off. Yes, they can increase the price at a later date.
EDIT: And can we try to keep the discussion about the BaC price in the BaC thread and go back to discussing the cool new Chaplain and the clampack releases of some of the previous special edition charactwrs, please?
It's not false advertising though, because anyone who bought it at that price payed that price, and anyone who bought it after they raised the price would've been able to see the price when they bought it. So all they would be doing is increasing the price at a later date.
And even more importantly you'll note all the little disclaimers in WD and the like, saying that prices were right at the time of going to press but may be subject to change etc etc
As we've now established that the price is still "only" £95/whateverpeopleuseabroad we can drop this particularly dull tangent.
I was considering a third Leman Russ and I don't have an Enginseer...unless the old Squat Techpriest with the White Dwarf Spaceman servo arm pinned to his back counts!
The plastic techpriest sorta came out of nowhere, and it's a very cool model. But not only are Techpriests pants in-game, there are also so many more cheaper alternatives floating around out there that it seems a waste of resources (sculpting, tooling, and production time) on such a niche product.
the_Armyman wrote: The plastic techpriest sorta came out of nowhere, and it's a very cool model. But not only are Techpriests pants in-game, there are also so many more cheaper alternatives floating around out there that it seems a waste of resources (sculpting, tooling, and production time) on such a niche product.
Not if you take in consideration the 30k mechanicum list, where you want a lot of unique tech priest and magos
the_Armyman wrote: The plastic techpriest sorta came out of nowhere, and it's a very cool model. But not only are Techpriests pants in-game, there are also so many more cheaper alternatives floating around out there that it seems a waste of resources (sculpting, tooling, and production time) on such a niche product.
Not if you take in consideration the 30k mechanicum list, where you want a lot of unique tech priest and magos
The only way you can get it at the moment though seems to be in a bundle with a Leman Russ so it's not fantastically useful for 30k.
Or maybe, you should lose the attitude. If you know anything at all about GW, a price increase of this nature is completely in their nature. Good day sir.
Name the last time they put something up for preorder and bumped the price a week later.
Ahh Kanluwen, I still remember you from the Infinity forums. Good to see you still want to argue over foolish things. As was pointed out, the fact that they are willing to sell a codex right up until the new version is released, rather than pull it weeks/month early speaks volumes about their business model and ethics. But it's okay, you keep raging and being the argumentative guy that everyone expects from you. Bravo... /facepalm
Hanskrampf wrote: Is this a new Lemand Russ variant? Old variant re-released? Or just an old one?
Regular Leman Russ variant with plastic tech priest enginseer and one Apocalypse command vehicle sprue.
in which case its actually not that bad value:
Leman Russ: £31
Squadron Command Frame: £5
and this box is £45, which means the enginseer is only costing you £9, which considering the price of the other plastic characters recently, isnt bad at all (for GW)
the_Armyman wrote: The plastic techpriest sorta came out of nowhere, and it's a very cool model. But not only are Techpriests pants in-game, there are also so many more cheaper alternatives floating around out there that it seems a waste of resources (sculpting, tooling, and production time) on such a niche product.
Not if you take in consideration the 30k mechanicum list, where you want a lot of unique tech priest and magos
I don't know of many people who run mobs of techpriests in their Mechanicum list. A single Magos as an HQ is pretty much all you need, and most people are already covered for that.
I have my wallet open and credit card out ready to order that enginseer. Oh, you're not selling it as an individual model GW? Guess I can't give you my monies then :-/
I have a Guard army anyways, and a plastic Techpriest will be great for kitbashes. Skitarii Alpha special characters anyone? I may end up getting another one if they sell them separate eventually.
Bottle wrote: I have my wallet open and credit card out ready to order that enginseer. Oh, you're not selling it as an individual model GW? Guess I can't give you my monies then :-/
Sad, isn't it? I also want the techpriest, could care less about the Command Russ.
Bottle wrote: I have my wallet open and credit card out ready to order that enginseer. Oh, you're not selling it as an individual model GW? Guess I can't give you my monies then :-/
That is me with the Strike Force Ultra Terminator Captain. I would gladly pay the $30ish bucks for it, but alas, it isn't available anymore. It's like GW hates money or something.
Bottle wrote: I have my wallet open and credit card out ready to order that enginseer. Oh, you're not selling it as an individual model GW? Guess I can't give you my monies then :-/
Sad, isn't it? I also want the techpriest, could care less about the Command Russ.
It's a normal Leman Russ kit. Builds a Vanquisher, Russ, Eradicator, or Exterminator.
There's nothing special about it except it seems to include the "Squadron Upgrade Frame" which is $8.25 by itself. Find an Ork or Guard player who'd be interested in a Leman Russ and/or anyone who'd be interested in parts from the Upgrade Frame and split the cost with them.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Yeah... not good enough. We just want to buy the Enginseer. Putting a Leman Russ with it is just annoying and a deterrent to purchasing.
I guess you will have to wait for someone to throw it in the Swap Shop or on eBay. Not ideal, but that is the way it is. Again, GW must really hate money.
I really like elements of this new Chaplain. Specifically the pose, as well as the armor detailing (The torso in particular!) and helmet are all very nice.
I don't like the small jump pack wings. They look like they belong on a swooping hawk, not a Blood Angel Independent Character. Thankfully getting Sanguinary Guard wings isn't difficult, and I have a few spare laying around were I to pick one up.
I also love the pose, except for the right foot. It's just awkward and I would want to covert another foot onto the mini and change the base up to help alleviate the basing/foot issue. Overall it's a solid mini, just a few places where the execution seems a little off.
I'd give it a solid 4 out of 5 stars were I to rate the mini. There's more than enough awesome to offset the couple of quibbles I have with the model.
Hoping we see some hints at an updated Blood Angels codex once some other deserving factions such as Orks, Chaos Space Marines, and Astra Militarum get some love.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Yeah... not good enough. We just want to buy the Enginseer. Putting a Leman Russ with it is just annoying and a deterrent to purchasing.
I would have thought they'd learned their lesson after the plastic chaplain that you have to buy a razorback and a command squad to get. Seems like that thing sold so poorly that no one even remembers it being released, but they thought they could try it again here.
Bottle wrote: I have my wallet open and credit card out ready to order that enginseer. Oh, you're not selling it as an individual model GW? Guess I can't give you my monies then :-/
Sad, isn't it? I also want the techpriest, could care less about the Command Russ.
It's a normal Leman Russ kit. Builds a Vanquisher, Russ, Eradicator, or Exterminator.
There's nothing special about it except it seems to include the "Squadron Upgrade Frame" which is $8.25 by itself. Find an Ork or Guard player who'd be interested in a Leman Russ and/or anyone who'd be interested in parts from the Upgrade Frame and split the cost with them.
Yeah but IIRC the upgrade frame is just a random selection of sensory type bitz for 4 different armies. Not worth it IMHO.
Tech priest is very nice, but dang it I still have an unpainted metal one from 2003.
Bottle wrote: I have my wallet open and credit card out ready to order that enginseer. Oh, you're not selling it as an individual model GW? Guess I can't give you my monies then :-/
Sad, isn't it? I also want the techpriest, could care less about the Command Russ.
It's a normal Leman Russ kit. Builds a Vanquisher, Russ, Eradicator, or Exterminator.
There's nothing special about it except it seems to include the "Squadron Upgrade Frame" which is $8.25 by itself. Find an Ork or Guard player who'd be interested in a Leman Russ and/or anyone who'd be interested in parts from the Upgrade Frame and split the cost with them.
Yeah but IIRC the upgrade frame is just a random selection of sensory type bitz for 4 different armies. Not worth it IMHO.
It's the aerial for the Guard, a hatch with a sensor for Space Marines, a Combi-Melta and a weird Daemon-y looking bit for CSM, a little bit for an Eldar grav-tank, and the Tau get a thing that fits over the hull of a tank.
In the case of Guard, Marines, and Tau it can be a good way for you to represent their unique character-tanks without needing to buy the heavily priced things.
Tech priest is very nice, but dang it I still have an unpainted metal one from 2003.
I just got paid for building Skarbrand for someone in a pair of the metal ones from the last Guard book...it'll be nice to have a trio.
It's the aerial for the Guard, a hatch with a sensor for Space Marines, a Combi-Melta and a weird Daemon-y looking bit for CSM, a little bit for an Eldar grav-tank, and the Tau get a thing that fits over the hull of a tank.
In the case of Guard, Marines, and Tau it can be a good way for you to represent their unique character-tanks without needing to buy the heavily priced things.
So yeah if you happen to play Guard, Chaos, Marines, Eldar and Tau then maybe, maybe there's $8 of value in there. If not, then there's lots of other ways to add flair without breaking the bank.
Do we know when these will be up for pre-order?
I had assumed it would be this weekend as we had seen pics of them, but no sign of them on the GW site yet - next weekend maybe?
has anyone seen the teaser in this weeks WD yet?
The more I think about it, I may get two of that Chaplain. One for turning into Lemartes (I will swap out the Inferno Pistol for a Bolt Pistol), and another to build as is for a Chaplain for my army. I really like that model.
My other Jump Chaplain (the Finecast one) will probably be sent over to my Crimson Fists so I can run a Gladius Strike Force.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I love to buy that, but GW doesn't want my money.
it is a beauty!!!
shame it isn't available seperately:(...
i have been wanting to paint a Punisher, though...
there seems to be a good market for the Pask Punsher, anyway, which means he will probably be gone from the next Codex...
GW, you so crazy...
i've already got the plastic Eversor and Vindicare, but it is nice that these four Assassins are coming out seperately...
the two i bought are really beautiful sculpts, and go together a treat...
i like the piece of wall behind the Vindicare, and the running up the wall pose of the Eversor would have been a nightmare in metal...
i really like the Matrix homage...
Pre-ordered the Chaplain. I am considering getting the Captain Karlaen Dataslate for the fluff, but also in the off chance that it contains different rules than the Deathstorm version. I wish I had space to run him in my games. He is actually a pretty cool character.
@Yaraton: do you mean that the Techpriest can be Chaos because he doesn't have any Imperial Eagles???
that is one thing i have noticed across the entire Ad. Mech. range...
the single eagle is on the chest of the robot, which is easy to slice off...
with the filigree style fleur de lys borders, that look very spikey, pretty much every mini in the range is ready to join the dark side...
just look at the leader of the Rust Stalkers, he looks like a Chaos creature straight out of the box!!!
i am having a lot of fun painting a Dark Mechanicum character right now for the Black Crusade RPG...
if she wasn't a female Heretek, this Techpriest would make a great base model...
H.B.M.C. wrote: Really the AdMech shouldn't have any Imperial Eagles. That's a sign of the Imperium, who are allied with the Adeptus Mechanicus.
no question about it, which is why i was surprised that the robots have them on the chest...
since they do have one, i am just happy that the rest of the models don't...
makes for a lot less detail to carve off if you don't want them there
cheers
jah
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casvalremdeikun wrote: So now that I can buy a Vindicate Assassin without the game, how badly do I want one? It has some hilariously powerful rules.
it is a great model, in my opinion...
i like him as much as my original metal shooting one, but he is just that little bit bigger and more impressive...
since the Finecast "come at me bro" pose is not cool, which was the only one available the last couple of years, the new plastic one is a great alternative...
i like the ruined column on the base, too, making it a mini-diorama...
Hang on. I've been out of checking GW pricing for a while, but it almost looked as if those new Assassins were $53au each. Like, single frame plastic clampack models for $53au.
Am I seeing that right or do I need to go for a new eye checkup?
jah-joshua wrote: @Yaraton: do you mean that the Techpriest can be Chaos because he doesn't have any Imperial Eagles???
that is one thing i have noticed across the entire Ad. Mech. range...
the single eagle is on the chest of the robot, which is easy to slice off...
with the filigree style fleur de lys borders, that look very spikey, pretty much every mini in the range is ready to join the dark side...
just look at the leader of the Rust Stalkers, he looks like a Chaos creature straight out of the box!!!
i am having a lot of fun painting a Dark Mechanicum character right now for the Black Crusade RPG...
if she wasn't a female Heretek, this Techpriest would make a great base model...
cheers
jah
From the image Nicky J posted you could see enough "possibly-less-than-Imperial" details that could be interpreted with the appropriate paint job as "Chaosy". This includes the spikes covered shaft of the cog power axe, the "chaosy" ornament on the pistol holster and "chaosy" emblem on the powerpack, although the last one is most likely Opus Machina symbol. IMHO, of course.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Really the AdMech shouldn't have any Imperial Eagles. That's a sign of the Imperium, who are allied with the Adeptus Mechanicus.
no question about it, which is why i was surprised that the robots have them on the chest...
since they do have one, i am just happy that the rest of the models don't...
makes for a lot less detail to carve off if you don't want them there
cheers
jah
Makes a bit more sense with the robots, seeing as the members of the Legio Cybernetica have to take especially strict Imperial Oaths due to the Men of Iron incident.
I can't believe they are charging so much for a plastic figure for each of the Assassins. Same for the Blood Angels Chaplin, he is the same price as a five man squad of Sanguinary Guard, made of plastic as well.
DarkKnights44 wrote: I can't believe they are charging so much for a plastic figure for each of the Assassins. Same for the Blood Angels Chaplin, he is the same price as a five man squad of Sanguinary Guard, made of plastic as well.
Yeah, the $30USD+ price for the clampack characters is stupid. I only get mine off eBay now. GW stores won't get my money ever again.
Too bad this guy doesn't get a Dataslate like Karlaen does. I was hoping for a named character option for the model.
I picked up Karlaen for £12.50 off ebay when Deathstorm came out. This was when he was perceived to be a limited edition model. Non-limited retail price = £20. Insane.
I am curious if anyone has sprue pictures of the new Chaplain. Also, does anyone have the Captain Karlaen carriers? I am curious if he has any changes to his rules.
So I tried to order the Captain Karlaen dataslate from BL, but my credit card was rejected. I called my CC company, they said the site was blocked by them as it is a high risk site. Apparently, there is nothing that can be done about it and they can't remove the block. This is really frustrating!
long term get a different credit cards, it's not worth having one that can't let you shop on a genuine site even after you call in and confirm it's a genuine transaction. You don't want to be in the position when they block a purchase that's actually essential rather than entertainment
long term get a different credit cards, it's not worth having one that can't let you shop on a genuine site even after you call in and confirm it's a genuine transaction. You don't want to be in the position when they block a purchase that's actually essential rather than entertainment
It is actually my bank card, so getting another one is impossible. I have never had any other issues like this in the past (same bank for 15 years). I am going to get a VISA gift card and see if that will work.
long term get a different credit cards, it's not worth having one that can't let you shop on a genuine site even after you call in and confirm it's a genuine transaction. You don't want to be in the position when they block a purchase that's actually essential rather than entertainment
It's not unheard of here in the US, actually. It's being blocked not necessarily because it's a "high risk site"(although they WILL tell you that), but because it's a transaction that registers as taking place in the UK.
Cas--do you have an iTunes account? Because you can just get it that way instead of using the Black Library site.
long term get a different credit cards, it's not worth having one that can't let you shop on a genuine site even after you call in and confirm it's a genuine transaction. You don't want to be in the position when they block a purchase that's actually essential rather than entertainment
It's not unheard of here in the US, actually. It's being blocked not necessarily because it's a "high risk site"(although they WILL tell you that), but because it's a transaction that registers as taking place in the UK.
Cas--do you have an iTunes account? Because you can just get it that way instead of using the Black Library site.
what format does the iTunes store have everything in though? I need epub for my reader. I have an iTunes account from ages past.
long term get a different credit cards, it's not worth having one that can't let you shop on a genuine site even after you call in and confirm it's a genuine transaction. You don't want to be in the position when they block a purchase that's actually essential rather than entertainment
It's not unheard of here in the US, actually. It's being blocked not necessarily because it's a "high risk site"(although they WILL tell you that), but because it's a transaction that registers as taking place in the UK.
Cas--do you have an iTunes account? Because you can just get it that way instead of using the Black Library site.
what format does the iTunes store have everything in though? I need epub for my reader. I have an iTunes account from ages past.
Ah that might be a problem then. I think iTunes only has it in their proprietary format.
long term get a different credit cards, it's not worth having one that can't let you shop on a genuine site even after you call in and confirm it's a genuine transaction. You don't want to be in the position when they block a purchase that's actually essential rather than entertainment
It's not unheard of here in the US, actually. It's being blocked not necessarily because it's a "high risk site"(although they WILL tell you that), but because it's a transaction that registers as taking place in the UK.
Cas--do you have an iTunes account? Because you can just get it that way instead of using the Black Library site.
what format does the iTunes store have everything in though? I need epub for my reader. I have an iTunes account from ages past.
They usually have both iOS book format and .PDF that eReaders use. The iOS books usually have the word "Enhanced" with them.
casvalremdeikun wrote: It is actually my bank card, so getting another one is impossible. I have never had any other issues like this in the past (same bank for 15 years). I am going to get a VISA gift card and see if that will work.
You are from the land of credit cards so unless you have a really bad credit history you can walk into any other bank and ask them to give you a different card. My credit card company is different from my bank company because they were a-ls when I asked them first time to give me a card. I was with my bank for 5 years but they still told me to put a deposit before they could issue me a credit card so I told them to have themselves and never took any of their CC offers after I have established a credit history with another company. We don't live in Middle Ages anymore - you mistreat your client, you lose business with them for ever.
Well, after a huge ordeal, I finally have the Captain Karlaen Dataslate. I was able to get it from iTunes, but it came with their extremely moronic Apple Device Only DRM. Their DRM is almost impossible to remove, which left me with a file that could not be opened. I eventually found a way to remove the DRM, but it wouldn't work on Windows 10 because the version of iTunes required was not compatible. So I had to dig out my older laptop, load the program and the older iTunes, and I was FINALLY able to get the Data slate to open.
As for the dataslate itself, the single page of fluff in the preview is the only fluff in it. The character sheet is pretty much a carbon copy of the Deathstorm sheet, possibly even a literal copy. It has every rule explained and has a two pages of ads at the end, one of which is for the terrible Blood Angels codex. Long story short, as someone who had Deathstorm in the first place, this was a giant waste of time, effort, and money. Still, at least I have a more portable version of the rules. I promptly converted it to PDF and sent it to my phone so I can have it ready should I ever run Karlaen.
I am disappointed they did not make a dataslate for the Chaplain. They could have easily come up with fluff for another BA Chaplain character. Maybe I will make my own up and put it in Proposed Rules.
I am disappointed they did not make a dataslate for the Chaplain. They could have easily come up with fluff for another BA Chaplain character. Maybe I will make my own up and put it in Proposed Rules.
I'm actually shocked that they didn't, to be honest.
I am disappointed they did not make a dataslate for the Chaplain. They could have easily come up with fluff for another BA Chaplain character. Maybe I will make my own up and put it in Proposed Rules.
I'm actually shocked that they didn't, to be honest.
Ouch...just realized that the assassins will run $128.00 for all four. I can get them, plus a chaos lord, two chaos marines, four cultists, and a game for $125.00.
Lord Scythican wrote: Ouch...just realized that the assassins will run $128.00 for all four. I can get them, plus a chaos lord, two chaos marines, four cultists, and a game for $125.00.
Yes, the assassins themselves are even more outrageously overpriced than the board game.
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