Pretty simple. I would love to see Chaos get a proper update. Multiple new plastics (havocs, oblits/mutilators, terminators, cult troops, regular CSM, cultists), clam packs, the works. I also want every army that was pre-necrons to get an update, along with the remaining 6th edition books that haven't gotten anything. I'd love a few more campaign boxes as well as more finecast disappearing.

What do you want to see in the upcoming year?

Betrayal at Calth expansion set with new plastics would suit me just fine.

JuniorRS13 wrote:
Pretty simple. I would love to see Chaos get a proper update. Multiple new plastics (havocs, oblits/mutilators, terminators, cult troops, regular CSM, cultists), clam packs, the works. I also want every army that was pre-necrons to get an update, along with the remaining 6th edition books that haven't gotten anything. I'd love a few more campaign boxes as well as more finecast disappearing.

What do you want to see in the upcoming year?

THIS. So much this.

Also, as is tradition, I will put out hope for plastic Sisters of Battle!

- Betrayal at Calth expansion featuring Mk III armour and Sicaran tank
- A Shield of Baal/Sanctus Reach style starter box featuring Salamanders
- *ALL current codices/models updated to 7th before moving on to the "next new army"

Updated formations in line with decursion-style. Give love to inquisition and assassins so they have more then one way to play. Also make more daemonkin, hopefully after chaos proper is updated, especially Slaanesh. Make slaanesh daemons useful as more then can openers, perhaps make the blood tithe equivalent focused on repositioning and forcing leadership teats that works like fear but ignores all but daemonic instability

Chaos SM that doesn't suffer from schizophrenia in its codex.
Chaos SM units that have synergy both in tabletop rules and in aesthetic rather than looking like random models from a variety of playsets bundled together who don't compliment each other particularly well.
Chaos SM that doesn't have to rely on Daemon allies to pull them through.
Chaos SM units that are on par with codex: Space Marines / Eldar / Tau in both cost and power.
Chaos SM that isn't all about Khorne. There were once rumours of Tzeentch Daemonkin....

But y'know, I'm just an old man rambling about what will never happen.

Forbes headline: "UK Gaming Giant, Games Workshop, sold to Hasbro"

I would like to see campaign boxed sets like what came out for War zone Damocles, but for more armies. They should release multiple storylines this year. One for Eldar, Orks, and Daemons would be nice. I wouldn't mind seeing a Space Wolves box and Blood Angels box as well.

I would really like to see the armies that have been screwed over by the advent of the super formation codexes get updated somehow. Either through errata, White Dwarf, or campaign boxes.

Fantasy Flight to purchase Games Workshop, keep the modeling team, sack the rules writers, and line Marketing up against the wall.

Seriously, to come up with a more poorly marketed product you have to enter the world of Chinese knockoff DVDs.

Battleforces with GOOD units for all armies
All codices updated to 7th
Forgeworld in FLGSs
Plastic Heresy Expansions
Tau vs BA Campaign (Shooty vs Melee... hehe)
BA Buffed
Decurions for all armies
Multiple campaigns
More 40k AdMech
Plastic Sisters. They deserve it
Sanguinius
Matt Ward to get fired

Most of that isn't happening... but oh well.

Matt Ward to get fired

You... do know that Matt Ward hasn't worked for GW for, like, 2 years now, right?

The raging hate-boner people have for this guy amazes me.

I'm still firmly rooted in 6th edition as I'm waiting for 8th ed. before I spend any more money. It's a long and frankly boring story that saw me buy 6th only to have it dropped a couple of months later.

I've still not forgiven GW for keeping it secret and stuffing people over like that.

For this reason, Ward is very much alive in my 40K universe. *shakes fist*

 Psienesis wrote:

Matt Ward to get fired

You... do know that Matt Ward hasn't worked for GW for, like, 2 years now, right?

The raging hate-boner people have for this guy amazes me.

Maybe he wants Ward to get fired from where ever the guy is working now

Yeah the Ward hate is so 3 years ago

I've heard ramblings of a space wolves update in February. Probably just a minor update but leaves hope for the other pre-necron armies to get updated

 Psienesis wrote:
Forbes headline: "UK Gaming Giant, Games Workshop, sold to Hasbro"

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 Chute82 wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:

Matt Ward to get fired

You... do know that Matt Ward hasn't worked for GW for, like, 2 years now, right?

The raging hate-boner people have for this guy amazes me.

Maybe he wants Ward to get fired from where ever the guy is working now

Yeah the Ward hate is so 3 years ago

Scariest thing?

Matt Ward's rules are sane and balanced compared to what's been pushed out since he left.

 Psienesis wrote:

 Chute82 wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:

Matt Ward to get fired

You... do know that Matt Ward hasn't worked for GW for, like, 2 years now, right?

The raging hate-boner people have for this guy amazes me.

Maybe he wants Ward to get fired from where ever the guy is working now

Yeah the Ward hate is so 3 years ago

Scariest thing?

Matt Ward's rules are sane and balanced compared to what's been pushed out since he left.

Agreed. Say what you want about the man's fluff, but he was very good at balancing codexes internally and externally. I know I would rather have my Assault Marine Troops, Scouting Fast Attack Baal Predators, and Death Company Troops.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:

 Chute82 wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:

Matt Ward to get fired

You... do know that Matt Ward hasn't worked for GW for, like, 2 years now, right?

The raging hate-boner people have for this guy amazes me.

Maybe he wants Ward to get fired from where ever the guy is working now

Yeah the Ward hate is so 3 years ago

Scariest thing?

Matt Ward's rules are sane and balanced compared to what's been pushed out since he left.

Agreed. Say what you want about the man's fluff, but he was very good at balancing codexes internally and externally. I know I would rather have my Assault Marine Troops, Scouting Fast Attack Baal Predators, and Death Company Troops.

5th Ed grey Knights guys? No but I see what you mean. While some things were powerful, nothing was like it is today

I think we have a pretty good chance of everyone being 7th edition by the end of 2016, there arn't that many codexes left

HoundsofDemos wrote:
I think we have a pretty good chance of everyone being 7th edition by the end of 2016, there arn't that many codexes left

That's what they said about 6th edition.
"They're hardcovers because they'll be around a long time! GW's going to stick with 6th and all codexes will be on the same level."

Or....
They change design philosophy again and suddenly there's an all new paradigm for codexes that make older ones obsolete.

Dark Eldar get fixed asap and some new models as an apology for this atrocious codex.

Kroot Mercenaries I know the rumor is mostly debunked but I still would like to see it in an ideal world.

Tau Auxiliaries minidex.

All the current 6.5 codexes get updated ruleswise to the current formation focused rules with all roughly the same power-level as Necrons. Release FAQ's in the meantime while they are being updated so that things like Blood Angels and Space wolves have dreadnoughts and scouts' stats updated to the one's like in the vanilla codex. Also FAQ's on some of the more obnoxious rules issues like how many weapons a GMC can fire or the issues involving infiltrate right now. Also release an Eldar FAQ/Errata that returns D-weapons into their original format from the old codex, updates the Wraithknight into being 400 points, and changes it so scatbikes can only take a scatter laser/shuriken cannon for every 3 bikes there are in the unit.

Model-wise I think CSM at this point are the ones screaming for the biggest overhaul. They need new everything. New dual CSM/Havoc kit, a Chosen kit, a Mutilator/Obliterator kit, all the cult units need updating and honestly they could redo the designs for the Rhino/Predator/Land Raider and properly warpify them. Guys like Abbadon also desperately need a new model.

Orks need a new plastic warbuggy and deffkopta kit, as well as a proper Ork Warboss plastic HQ with potential Mega-Armour options.

IG need a new base infantry kit alongside updated catachan and cadian models that are smaller scale and include all the special weapons. Either Vostroyans or Armaggedon Steel Legion. Bring back the old siege weapons of the medusa, griffon and bombard and combine it with the basilisk kit.

Dark Eldar should get plastic grotesques and Incubi.

Eldar should have plastic Aspect warriors update as compensation for their depowering.

Chaos Daemons should get all their Greater Daemons updated to plastic kits.

A coherent, clear and balanced ruleset.

The return of FAQs and pre-7.5 codexes brought back to 7.5 power level.

 Frozocrone wrote:
A coherent, clear and balanced ruleset.

I think you're asking too much from GW

A Black Templar Codex.

Tyranids that don't have to spam flyrants

Plastic Fire Raptor/Storm Eagle. Failing that I'd love to see the Sisters getting some love. Make a 5 (wo)man box with all of the options for Sisters on foot like the Grey Knight basic troop box and charge $35 for it. That one box would do so much to support the army.

I would ask for 10 models for that price but this is GW we are talking about. Though if they did the army would sell boat loads.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Plastic Fire Raptor/Storm Eagle. Failing that I'd love to see the Sisters getting some love. Make a 5 (wo)man box with all of the options for Sisters on foot like the Grey Knight basic troop box and charge $35 for it. That one box would do so much to support the army.

I would ask for 10 models for that price but this is GW we are talking about. Though if they did the army would sell boat loads.

The interesting thing is that the Storm Eagle and Fire Raptor would use many of the same sprues as the Stormraven.

I wouldn't mind a plastic Land Raider Achilles or Terminus Ultra.

My 2016 wish list might include some stuff for armies I don't even play but would love to see more of at my FLGS. Such as:
-Plastic Sororitas
-a complete overhaul of Chaos Space Marines (rules, models, everything)
-fix Dark Eldar, as their models are very cool but their rules...not so much. I've only ever faced them once, and that was as allies for Craftworld Eldar, in over a year of playing.
-maybe an Ork Warboss kit that is similar to the Space Marine commander kit (i.e. has a lot of options as opposed to a clampack kit).
-a more balanced Tyranid codex. Like Dark Eldar, they have very cool models. Too bad you have to run a certain set of units to compete with them.
-new FAQs for all armies, as its been over a year since we had one.
-better Blood Angels. It would be nice to see a true BA army that isn't just a libby, two scout squads, and a bunch of pods full of Skitarii or something.
-plastic kits for the other three Greater Daemons, similar to what we got for the Bloodthirster.

Sisters.

Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

'Tis a sad day when people want Matt Ward back at GW. But at least he can write a fairly balanced codex.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

'Tis a sad day when people want Matt Ward back at GW. But at least he can write a fairly balanced codex.

Just to reiterate, please tell me why Matt Ward is hated for his fluff? I think he portrayed the Ultramarines quite accurately: overconfident jack of all trades, master of none who religiously follow a book they were told not to. I mean, look at Captain Cato Sicarius...

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

'Tis a sad day when people want Matt Ward back at GW. But at least he can write a fairly balanced codex.

Just to reiterate, please tell me why Matt Ward is hated for his fluff? I think he portrayed the Ultramarines quite accurately: overconfident jack of all trades, master of none who religiously follow a book they were told not to. I mean, look at Captain Cato Sicarius...

It was more because he portrayed the other Chapters as being cheap knock-offs of the Ultramarines, rather than distinct armies that have their own strengths.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

'Tis a sad day when people want Matt Ward back at GW. But at least he can write a fairly balanced codex.

Just to reiterate, please tell me why Matt Ward is hated for his fluff? I think he portrayed the Ultramarines quite accurately: overconfident jack of all trades, master of none who religiously follow a book they were told not to. I mean, look at Captain Cato Sicarius...

It was more because he portrayed the other Chapters as being cheap knock-offs of the Ultramarines, rather than distinct armies that have their own strengths.

But don't the Ultramarines think that? Wasn't something said about WH40K fluff being not entirely true due to propaganda, record deletion or bias?

I'll just name 3 things that I would actually buy:

1. Codex: Imperial Guard -- with costs lowered, and rules tweaked so that IG can actually field a competitive shooty horde of dudes following Regimental Doctrines for multiple play styles.

2. Codex: Chaos Space Marines -- with formations and rules that allow unaligned CSM to be competitive in addition to MoK and MoN forces.

3. Chaos Knight Titan -- in plastic, to support 30k and 40k. I don't yet have an IKT, because I've kinda been waiting for one of these.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I'll just name 3 things that I would actually buy:

1. Codex: Imperial Guard -- with costs lowered, and rules tweaked so that IG can actually field a competitive shooty horde of dudes following Regimental Doctrines for multiple play styles.

2. Codex: Chaos Space Marines -- with formations and rules that allow unaligned CSM to be competitive in addition to MoK and MoN forces.

3. Chaos Knight Titan -- in plastic, to support 30k and 40k. I don't yet have an IKT, because I've kinda been waiting for one of these.

1: Probably gonna happen in some ways

2: If they made it like the Current SM codex but spikier, I wouldn't complain

3: Probably not....

CKT is pretty easy - it's just one alternate sprue, and from how well they sell, it's a no-brainer.

If Chaos Space Marines came out with legion rules similar to Chapter Tactics, I would be SOOOOO happy. Then again, if you look at many of the Legions, many of them are dark versions of Loyalist Chapters. Night Lords are Raven Guard, Iron Warriors are Imperial Fists, and Black Legion are Ultramarines. I am sure if I ruminated on it more I could find a Chapter the Alpha Legion resembled.

I just realized a theme...the Chaos Undivided Legions have Loyalist counterparts, whereas the ones devoted to the individual Chaos Gods do not have direct counterparts.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
If Chaos Space Marines came out with legion rules similar to Chapter Tactics, I would be SOOOOO happy. Then again, if you look at many of the Legions, many of them are dark versions of Loyalist Chapters. Night Lords are Raven Guard, Iron Warriors are Imperial Fists, and Black Legion are Ultramarines. I am sure if I ruminated on it more I could find a Chapter the Alpha Legion resembled.

I just realized a theme...the Chaos Undivided Legions have Loyalist counterparts, whereas the ones devoted to the individual Chaos Gods do not have direct counterparts.

Well....

Death Guard play nicely to Salamander tactics or Iron Hands

Thousands Suns play as Grey Knights (This is so possible to achieve. It might be an easy way to run them)

World Eaters play as Black Templars, Space Sharks or Blood Angels

Emperor's Children... probably White Scars or Dark Angels

Alpha legion would make sense as Raven Guard or Ultramarines, but more as Ravenguard because they use scouts a lot

Iron Warriors play as Imperial Fists or Iron Hands

Word Bearers play like Black Templar?

It really drives home how easy this would be to implement when only after minutes of thought we both were able to come up with working analogues for Chaos Space Marines.

Black Templars are actually fanatically adherent devotees of Khorne.

World eaters -> blood angels
Deathguard -> space wolves maybe?
Emperor's children -> Black Templar/imperial fists
Thousand Sons -> none really, unless you count Blood Ravens or feet knights

The legions, minus Alpha legion, all have overlap with eachother for seemingly no reason. This is further made a problem by the Codex, that limits growth and adaptation severely.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Black Templars are actually fanatically adherent devotees of Khorne.

PRAY BURN KILL PRAY BURN KILL


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It really drives home how easy this would be to implement when only after minutes of thought we both were able to come up with working analogues for Chaos Space Marines.

You could literally say "These tactics are for Loyalist X and Traitor Y" and "Loyalists get X, Y, Z for allies while Traitors get Q, R and S for allies"

Some get ITC on this

What do I want to see in 2016...

as much as I hate to say it...8E.

A fully rebooted, cleaned up, simplified "3E"-style 8E.

The game as it is has simply gotten to be unplayable. It's killed my desire to play. It's killed my purchasing. It's killed my painting. More to the point, it's killing the community except for the small handful of players that really enjoy basically "breaking" the game. The skies the limit for them, but nobody else is showing up for games anymore.

An 8E "reboot" edition is really what I'd like to see.

 Vaktathi wrote:
8E.

A fully rebooted, cleaned up, simplified "3E"-style 8E.

The game as it is has simply gotten to be unplayable. It's killed my desire to play. It's killed my purchasing. It's killed my painting. More to the point, it's killing the community except for the small handful of players that really enjoy basically "breaking" the game. The skies the limit for them, but nobody else is showing up for games anymore.

An 8E "reboot" edition is really what I'd like to see.

Well, crap. Now I want to change my answer, because I want this way more than a Chaos Knight.

 Vaktathi wrote:
What do I want to see in 2016...

as much as I hate to say it...8E.

A fully rebooted, cleaned up, simplified "3E"-style 8E.

The game as it is has simply gotten to be unplayable. It's killed my desire to play. It's killed my purchasing. It's killed my painting. More to the point, it's killing the community except for the small handful of players that really enjoy basically "breaking" the game. The skies the limit for them, but nobody else is showing up for games anymore.

An 8E "reboot" edition is really what I'd like to see.

Sadly, this is much the case for me as well. I have made some purchases for my Crimson Fists, but I have only painted one model from my Blood Angels in over a year, and that isn't going to change. No more purchases in sight for me (MAYBE another Drop Pod for my Crimson Fists). The Super Formation codexes have really killed the game for me.

 Vaktathi wrote:
What do I want to see in 2016...

as much as I hate to say it...8E.

A fully rebooted, cleaned up, simplified "3E"-style 8E.

The game as it is has simply gotten to be unplayable. It's killed my desire to play. It's killed my purchasing. It's killed my painting. More to the point, it's killing the community except for the small handful of players that really enjoy basically "breaking" the game. The skies the limit for them, but nobody else is showing up for games anymore.

An 8E "reboot" edition is really what I'd like to see.

I would dive right back into the game if they rebooted the damn rules and were actually able to streamline them and polish them the right way, not the AoS way.

Have you actually played AoS? Because it plays exactly like 40k does.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Have you actually played AoS? Because it plays exactly like 40k does.

Just without points values. Considering that points values in 40K are meaningless at best (see Wraithknight and Riptide), the one differentiation is basically not present. At least AoS doesn't try to hide the fact it is unbalanced.

 Psienesis wrote:
Forbes headline: "UK Gaming Giant, Games Workshop, sold to Hasbro"

I'd go with WotC. I think it'd be better to be Hasbro's indirect vassal, and answer directly to the Uberlord WotC.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Alpha legion would make sense as Raven Guard or Ultramarines, but more as Ravenguard because they use scouts a lot

Wat.

I'd love to see that particular snippet sourced.

The Alpha Legion in 30k was a mechanised force that fielded black ops-style SMs, infiltrators, with a solid amount of tactical maneuvering to give themselves the edge. Their conduct is more similar to that of Blitzkrieg (on the battlefield), followed by Total War/Sherman's March to the Sea, then Sheridan's campaign in the Shenandoah culminating in the Burning. Victory needed to be complete.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Have you actually played AoS? Because it plays exactly like 40k does.

That's (part of) the problem imo.

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Alpha legion would make sense as Raven Guard or Ultramarines, but more as Ravenguard because they use scouts a lot

Wat.

I'd love to see that particular snippet sourced.

The Alpha Legion in 30k was a mechanised force that fielded black ops-style SMs, infiltrators, with a solid amount of tactical maneuvering to give themselves the edge. Their conduct is more similar to that of Blitzkrieg (on the battlefield), followed by Total War/Sherman's March to the Sea, then Sheridan's campaign in the Shenandoah culminating in the Burning. Victory needed to be complete.

"Chaos" Alpha Legion use cultists a lot an as solid tactic (in game) for Ravenguard to use camo scouts. Camo scout = cultist

My other minis/paints no longer in "out of state" status

Less anxiety

8th ed. then codex IG. Don't want anything else for w40k.

A white dwarf that has a bunch of formations for blood angels

More plastic heresy stuff, armour mark's, tanks etc.

The only other thing chaos space marines. New dex and models. The army needs to be what it is in the fluff. Super powerful stuff, decent units, proper legion choices, cult units more than just the ones available now and cult lords and other hero's

Ooo, I forgot one. I would like to see upgrades for some of the other Space Marine Chapters. Seriously, we got lots of new Raven Guard and White Scars stuff but no upgrades. They should release the other Loyalist Legion/Chapter sprues as well as Black Templars. At least the Raven Guard, White Scars, and Imperial/Crimson Fists.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
CKT is pretty easy - it's just one alternate sprue, and from how well they sell, it's a no-brainer.

The availability of the FW Chaos Knight kit makes it unlikely, it possible with the Calith boxset coming out but unlikely...

I'd like to see an announcement next year that the last HH book from FW is coming end of 2017 and that they are moving onto the scouring.
40k FW Mechancium book to finally make an appearance, it would be perfect if it was against a new (to the rules) Xenos army and if Sisters were some how involved as well.
Either Squats get rebooted or another new faction joins 40k, we've had Knights then Mechanicum so I'm hoping the pattern holds
A reboot of D weapons

- An 8th edition that resembles 5th.

- A Dark Eldar codex written by people who actually care about the army and are willing to put some actual effort into the book.

-Sangunius
-FAQs!

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

"Chaos" Alpha Legion use cultists a lot an as solid tactic (in game) for Ravenguard to use camo scouts. Camo scout = cultist

Right, follow you now.

Codex: Cadia

With Sergeants/Officers having Lasguns and Scions being an Allied choice rather than a Codex choice.
Kasrkin come back as a unit.

*wishes harder*


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
If Chaos Space Marines came out with legion rules similar to Chapter Tactics, I would be SOOOOO happy. Then again, if you look at many of the Legions, many of them are dark versions of Loyalist Chapters. Night Lords are Raven Guard, Iron Warriors are Imperial Fists, and Black Legion are Ultramarines. I am sure if I ruminated on it more I could find a Chapter the Alpha Legion resembled.

I just realized a theme...the Chaos Undivided Legions have Loyalist counterparts, whereas the ones devoted to the individual Chaos Gods do not have direct counterparts.

A long, long, long time ago on this forum I posted up an idea for Loyalists and Traitors to have books based not on their names but specialties.
Loyalists
Ultramarines and the closely Codex Adherent Chapters(Imperial Fists/Crimson Fists)
Dark Angels and Blood Angels
Iron Hands and their Successors plus Raven Guard and their Successors
Space Wolves and Black Templars

Traitors
Black Legion, Night Lords, and Alpha Legion
Khorne devotees
Slaanesh devotees
Nurgle devotees
Tzeentch devotees

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Agreed. Say what you want about the man's fluff, but he was very good at balancing codexes internally and externally. I know I would rather have my Assault Marine Troops, Scouting Fast Attack Baal Predators, and Death Company Troops.

Seriously? As far as his rules writing went, the Necron 5th edition book was horribly balanced, internally and externally.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Ooo, I forgot one. I would like to see upgrades for some of the other Space Marine Chapters. Seriously, we got lots of new Raven Guard and White Scars stuff but no upgrades. They should release the other Loyalist Legion/Chapter sprues as well as Black Templars. At least the Raven Guard, White Scars, and Imperial/Crimson Fists.

Seriously.

Raven Guard got rules for a sweet as all hell Relic Jump Pack, and then...nothing. Even the model in the Raven Guard boxed set was generic.
Cut to a few weeks later and BLOOD ANGELS of all friggin' people got yet another character blister.

A cleaned up 8th edition that plays like 6th or 7th. I've tried to get into 4th and 5th and the rules seemed even more obtuse than 6th.

I like how 6th and 7th play, I just wish the rules were tighter and the armies were more balanced.

Chaos to get the proper love it's been screaming for since the 4th edition clusterfeth...

Daemons are the one and only bright spot right now for Chaos as a whole, though we're still missing:
- 3 Greater Daemons.
- Changebringers of Tzeentch
- proper daemonic spawn for all the gods. (Khorne Bloodbeasts, Tzeentch Firewyrms, etc...)
- Plastic models for Furies, Fiends, Flesh Hounds, Beasts of Nurgle.
- the 3 God-specific lores to get a full 6 + Primaris powers... Make Tzeentch the random yet really destructive lore, Nurgle focuses on buffs/toughness-based hexes + toughness-based damage spells, and Slaanesh the Ld/I screwing + direct damage/cover ignoring lore.


Chaos Marines as they stand just need to be thrown in garbage bin and re-booted from the ground up at this point... The only way to "fix" them is to go full 'Dark Eldar re-vamp' mode on them, as the current model line is almost entirely 10-15+ years old at this point, and missing half or more of our basic upgrade options to boot!


Give us proper Traitor Guard that doesn't involve being forced to shell out $200 for a FW book dammit!
Just put it into the bloody Guard codex itself, that they can be 'Allies of Convenience' with Chaos... or else release a new mini-dex for The Lost and the Damned that includes the rough basics such as Mutants, Plague Zombies, Traitors/Heretic platoons, Chimeras, Leman Russ, Hellhounds, Sentinels, Arch Heretics, Psykers...


Of course, this is GW we're talking about, and their current attitude towards Chaos in general is to the point that they may as well just get it over with and squat us already.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Ooo, I forgot one. I would like to see upgrades for some of the other Space Marine Chapters. Seriously, we got lots of new Raven Guard and White Scars stuff but no upgrades. They should release the other Loyalist Legion/Chapter sprues as well as Black Templars. At least the Raven Guard, White Scars, and Imperial/Crimson Fists.

Seriously.

Raven Guard got rules for a sweet as all hell Relic Jump Pack, and then...nothing. Even the model in the Raven Guard boxed set was generic.
Cut to a few weeks later and BLOOD ANGELS of all friggin' people got yet another character blister.

Well, the Raven Guard are probably selling well enough. Blood Angels needed a shot of life because they are probably selling like gak due to terrible rules. But obviously it is because everyone has their kits already so they need new ones. That was probably GW's thought process. I would love to see a Scars upgrade kit and Raven Guard upgrade kit, even ahead of my Fists. Give them unique stuff like a Power Glaive for Scars and a special jump pack (a 30K variant maybe?) for Raven Guard.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Ooo, I forgot one. I would like to see upgrades for some of the other Space Marine Chapters. Seriously, we got lots of new Raven Guard and White Scars stuff but no upgrades. They should release the other Loyalist Legion/Chapter sprues as well as Black Templars. At least the Raven Guard, White Scars, and Imperial/Crimson Fists.

Seriously.

Raven Guard got rules for a sweet as all hell Relic Jump Pack, and then...nothing. Even the model in the Raven Guard boxed set was generic.
Cut to a few weeks later and BLOOD ANGELS of all friggin' people got yet another character blister.

Well, the Raven Guard are probably selling well enough. Blood Angels needed a shot of life because they are probably selling like gak due to terrible rules. But obviously it is because everyone has their kits already so they need new ones. That was probably GW's thought process. I would love to see a Scars upgrade kit and Raven Guard upgrade kit, even ahead of my Fists. Give them unique stuff like a Power Glaive for Scars and a special jump pack (a 30K variant maybe?) for Raven Guard.

See, there's the rub...

There is NOTHING sold by GW itself that is Raven Guard aside from Shrike. Forge World are the only ones who make Raven Guard(and their Successor, the Raptors) items.
Hell GW don't even sell the Raven Guard transfer sheet.

- Lion El'Jonson!!
- Dark Angels Contemptor!
- Corswain or Zahariel or Luther - I'm not picky.

Allies removed.
Assault from reserves reinstated.
Old Fleet reinstated.
D weapons, Gargantuan and Superheavies back to Escalation where it belongs.
Invisibility reworked to a BS modifier.
Grav weapons toned down (remove grav amp).
Free stuff reigned in (capped at 10% of army size).
Ignore Cover becomes a modifier instead of a complete negation, and very sparse in a codex.
Cover saves from intervening units clarified.

As ever, until it comes true (and everyone inevitably regrets it) the only appropriate answer is plastic sisters of battle.

My personal preference is to see them in a mini-dex that aims to maximize their synergy with other imperial armies. Elite tough objective takers and skirmishers relative to guard, distinct heavy weapon assets relative to marines, a roughly rounded army that can at least reasonably fare well by itself or augment certain weaknesses with assassins and inquisitors.

I'd even appreciate an update to their design.

 N.I.B. wrote:
Allies removed.
Assault from reserves reinstated.
Old Fleet reinstated.
D weapons, Gargantuan and Superheavies back to Escalation where it belongs.
Invisibility reworked to a BS modifier.
Grav weapons toned down (remove grav amp).
Free stuff reigned in (capped at 10% of army size).
Ignore Cover becomes a modifier instead of a complete negation, and very sparse in a codex.
Cover saves from intervening units clarified.

So, 40k 8th ed? I could get behind that.

1. Update 'Nids, Orks, and CSM (models would be nice, but I "proxy" my 30k army as my 40k Death Guard ) first, but every codex updated would be nice by the end of 2016
2. More plastic Heresy, I have tonnes of FW, but Calth is so nice in the fact that it can just instantly add 1500+ to a force with almost no effort.
3. The player base to get less grumpy. Yes, GW has gak business practices, but nothing turns new players away faster then going to a forum to get started, and reading all the jaded players saying the game hasn't been good since I put on my nostalgia goggles.
4. I don't use formations (again, 30k), but keeping with the general codex "theme" of decurion + other stuff would be nice for balancing
5. MAGNUS AND HIS LEGION'S RULES AND MODELS BEFORE 2017 PLEASE!


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 N.I.B. wrote:
Allies removed.
Assault from reserves reinstated.
Old Fleet reinstated.
D weapons, Gargantuan and Superheavies back to Escalation where it belongs.
Invisibility reworked to a BS modifier.
Grav weapons toned down (remove grav amp).
Free stuff reigned in (capped at 10% of army size).
Ignore Cover becomes a modifier instead of a complete negation, and very sparse in a codex.
Cover saves from intervening units clarified.

I never got the allies hate, is it because some people honestly abuse it? I've never seen a really bad issue outside of tournaments. Not sure if I would change ignore cover, but make it harder to get (flamers, yes. The sheer number of templates that have it now, no) I like most of the rest though.

 N.I.B. wrote:
Allies removed.
Assault from reserves reinstated.
Old Fleet reinstated.
D weapons, Gargantuan and Superheavies back to Escalation where it belongs.
Invisibility reworked to a BS modifier.
Grav weapons toned down (remove grav amp).
Free stuff reigned in (capped at 10% of army size).
Ignore Cover becomes a modifier instead of a complete negation, and very sparse in a codex.
Cover saves from intervening units clarified.

I'd suggest that Invisibility just go back to providing Shrouded, otherwise I'm in agreement with this.

More campaigns

Adepta Sororitas update - new figures and rules

Chaos update - similar to above

Genestealer Cult - as above.

Some proper background for the AOS world and Stat card army boxes for this

Stat card army boxes for 40k

Allow templates and blast weapons to make snap shots. That would fix so many issues and units.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Allow templates and blast weapons to make snap shots. That would fix so many issues and units.

Honestly, I'd rather see the entire snapshot mechanic removed.

Well, I'm expecting actually nothing. Then one cannot get disappointed.

FAQs.

Granted it's going to be repeating what many have said but specifically I'd want:

1) Plastic Sisters
2) All Old 'dexs updated
3) Full plastic kits for Rubric Marines (Although the FW ones are coming soon! )
4) Seperate Khorne/Tzeench/Slaanesh/Nurgle/Black Legion CSM codexes. If we Loyalists can get multi-chapter Codexes, I want CSM to have it too.
5) Separate IG/Cadian/Armageddon Steel Legion Codexes

Well, I'd like to see a new CSM codex which is somewhere near the old 3.5 codex, the best codex ever made for 40k.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I'm expecting actually nothing. Then one cannot get disappointed.

GW will find a way.

New sisters of battle including plastic kits.

A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar

 master of ordinance wrote:
A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar

Fast Leman Russes anyone? MC ogryns? what will they think of next!

-poop on a sticks for at least half a year. -> This will be great for my wallet
-Trade in program, bring in your unused sprues / bits for discount on new ones. -> I would love this.

Thing that would be horrible for my wallet.
-> Good ork rules for walkers,fliers, kommandoes, flash gith and MANZ ( the only things I don't have a ton of )
-> New cool ork models with even better rules.
-> Inquisition update, this could invalidate most of my main army and potentially trigger some impulse buying.
-> Grim darkness upgrade sprues, filled with animal skulls, vestigial body parts, fish & bird head swaps, cyberanimals, dead babies, skulls etc.. This is my wallets nightmare. Quite sure that I would be tempted to double my imperial army size if this becomes available.



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Other things that would be horrible.

Good models and rules for Imperial reptile mounts, enslavers and radical inquisitors.

 Carlson793 wrote:

- *ALL current codices/models updated to 7th before moving on to the "next new army"

This.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar

Fast Leman Russes anyone? MC ogryns? what will they think of next!

ooohhh yes, and the Baneblade gains the D strength on all its guns and now costs 200 points....
Okay maybe I was being a little (read 'a lot') silly but hey, a Wo-class can dream.

On a serious note though I would love to see a new Guard codex that was on par with Space Marines and possibly Necrons but did not require me to purchase 400+ new figures.

 master of ordinance wrote:
A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar

On a serious note though I would love to see a new Guard codex that was on par with Space Marines and possibly Necrons but did not require me to purchase 400+ new figures.

As I have repeatedly said, IG should be on par with Necrons and SMs and the other formation armies (i.e. Tau). However, I do disagree that IG should ever be better than Eldar - I'd want them both at par from a competitive standpoint, with the IG representing the extreme of quantity and the Eldar representing the extreme of quality.

As for purchases, if you already own 2500+ pts of IG, I'd think you shouldn't need to buy anything more to play at the 1850 pt level under a new IG Codex; I just happen to think that what is currently 2500 pts of IG should be recosted closer to 1850 pts in the next IG Codex.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar

On a serious note though I would love to see a new Guard codex that was on par with Space Marines and possibly Necrons but did not require me to purchase 400+ new figures.

As I have repeatedly said, IG should be on par with Necrons and SMs and the other formation armies (i.e. Tau). However, I do disagree that IG should ever be better than Eldar - I'd want them both at par from a competitive standpoint, with the IG representing the extreme of quantity and the Eldar representing the extreme of quality.

As for purchases, if you already own 2500+ pts of IG, I'd think you shouldn't need to buy anything more to play at the 1850 pt level under a new IG Codex; I just happen to think that what is currently 2500 pts of IG should be recosted closer to 1850 pts in the next IG Codex.

Its GW, the new 'Emperors Mine Clearance' will consist of approximately 1000 Guardsmen armed with Lasguns. This will be a single blob unit and will have the Move Through Cover special rule and will remove any Dangerous Terrain it moves over on a 4+. Each infantry man whom has to make a Dangerous Terrain test will automatically fail.
Guardsmen themselves will cost 1 point each with Veterans costing 2. The stats will be reduced to reflect this with Guardsmen now being WS and BS 2 and Veterans being BS 3 and the Lasgun will be S 2. Flak armour will not provide a 6+ save and will cost 2 PPM.

A new CSM codex that works well.

A new Ork codex that is in line with other 7e codex power levels.

 Grimskul wrote:

Orks need a new plastic warbuggy and deffkopta kit, as well as a proper Ork Warboss plastic HQ with potential Mega-Armour options.

This. Jesus. GW released plastic Deffkoptas in the AOBR set, just stamp out more of those! What, is there a huge vault of surplus metal Deffkoptas they want to sell before they'll make more? Do the execs swim around in them like Scrooge McDuck?

Yes, it would be nice to get plastic models for all armies (Sisters), and if all armies had updated Codexes. FAQ's would be helpful. One can dream.

I don't want an 8th edition, as I don't find the rules that bad if you use the ITC faqs. Is the game balanced, no, no 16 plus faction 100 of unit game ever will be. The problem I've seen and my game group and local tournaments have avoided for the most part is it's not just meh rules, but meh players. The rule book for 40k makes it pretty clear that this is not meant to be a super competitive game and all supplemental releases from GW support that vision. Part of what hurts communities is players who want to win no matter fluff, logic or narrative and I don't think that's a fun way to play or healthy for a community.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
I don't want an 8th edition, as I don't find the rules that bad if you use the ITC faqs. Is the game balanced, no, no 16 plus faction 100 of unit game ever will be. The problem I've seen and my game group and local tournaments have avoided for the most part is it's not just meh rules, but meh players. The rule book for 40k makes it pretty clear that this is not meant to be a super competitive game and all supplemental releases from GW support that vision. Part of what hurts communities is players who want to win no matter fluff, logic or narrative and I don't think that's a fun way to play or healthy for a community.

Ugh, more pro-GW nonsense.

A game that charges £50 for a rulebook and £30 for each codex has no right whatsoever to hide behind any "it's not meant to be played competitively" drivel.

Moreover, winning is the entire purpose of the game. Wanting to win is not wrong.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
I don't want an 8th edition, as I don't find the rules that bad if you use the ITC faqs. Is the game balanced, no, no 16 plus faction 100 of unit game ever will be. The problem I've seen and my game group and local tournaments have avoided for the most part is it's not just meh rules, but meh players. The rule book for 40k makes it pretty clear that this is not meant to be a super competitive game and all supplemental releases from GW support that vision. Part of what hurts communities is players who want to win no matter fluff, logic or narrative and I don't think that's a fun way to play or healthy for a community.

War Game Red Dragon (a strategy video game) has over 1000 units in it and I think 17 factions, and most of them are perfectly balanced. Then again not every game can be as amazing a strategy game as that. I would kill to see a Warhammer 40k epic scale game done by Eugen Systems. Screw Dawn of War. We could actually have titans fight on the maps and make sense. (25x25 miles IIRC).

Lowering of prices by at least 25%.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
I don't want an 8th edition, as I don't find the rules that bad if you use the ITC faqs.

The rule book for 40k makes it pretty clear that this is not meant to be a super competitive game and all supplemental releases from GW support that vision.

All the more reason for GW to simplify things with an 8E version that is at least as simple as 3E, if not more like AoS. After all, if we're just playing for gaks & grins, why do we need a huge rulebook?

 vipoid wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:
I don't want an 8th edition, as I don't find the rules that bad if you use the ITC faqs. Is the game balanced, no, no 16 plus faction 100 of unit game ever will be. The problem I've seen and my game group and local tournaments have avoided for the most part is it's not just meh rules, but meh players. The rule book for 40k makes it pretty clear that this is not meant to be a super competitive game and all supplemental releases from GW support that vision. Part of what hurts communities is players who want to win no matter fluff, logic or narrative and I don't think that's a fun way to play or healthy for a community.

Ugh, more pro-GW nonsense.

A game that charges £50 for a rulebook and £30 for each codex has no right whatsoever to hide behind any "it's not meant to be played competitively" drivel.

Moreover, winning is the entire purpose of the game. Wanting to win is not wrong.

I think it's more appropriate to look at 40k as being the "House League" level of table top gaming myself, while the better 'competitive' systems like Warmahordes would be the "Rep/Competition" level of gaming.
Just like in minor house league sports, while it's nice to win the game, the main goal is to simply have fun and enjoy the experience.

40k is simply not balanced in the slightest - never has been, and it never will be. As mentioned, there's too many factions and near infinite unit/wargear combination possibilities. The only way to achieve proper 'balance' for truly competitive play, would be to effectively remove the majority of each army's individuality and half or more of their upgrade options. Or else everyone can just play mirror lists.

If you want truly competitive table top gaming, then look to games like Warmahordes or any of the other systems that are designed from the ground up to be generally more competitive than 40k is.

I'm not pro GW, I find most of there recent business decisions baffling and have pretty much switch to buying things used or from amazon. What I am pro is 40k, as I enjoy the Fluff, the models and I actually have fun playing this game. My group avoids a lot of the things that we find broken and the game ends up being decent balance wise.

What I do want to see in 2016 is every codex pre Necron getting updated. utterly broken things aside, the main issue i see in the game right now is that GW radically changed there design philosophy a year into 7th and that's hurting a lot of armies. However all the codexes released post Necron are fairly strong and do well against each other.

Experiment 626 wrote:

Just like in minor house league sports, while it's nice to win the game, the main goal is to simply have fun and enjoy the experience.

And I would enjoy the experience a lot more if it was a well-balanced game with good rules, rather than about 300 pages of convoluted nonsense vomited out my a man with his head stuck in a filing cabinet.

Experiment 626 wrote:

40k is simply not balanced in the slightest - never has been, and it never will be.

The only reason it will never be balanced is because the design team can't be bothered trying. It will never be perfectly balanced, but it really wouldn't be hard to make the balance *much* better than it currently is. And, if GW is going to charge premium prices for its rules, then it should be prepared to put the effort in to actually make them even remotely worth that price.

 vipoid wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:

40k is simply not balanced in the slightest - never has been, and it never will be.

It will never be perfectly balanced, but it really wouldn't be hard to make the balance *much* better than it currently is.

And, if GW is going to charge premium prices for its rules, then it should be prepared to put the effort in to actually make them even remotely worth that price.

If it will never be balanced, then at least make it simple enough that people can always play without making mistakes or having arguments over how things should be played.

Nobody is really paying a premium for the rules, they are mostly paying for the background and pretty pictures. The rules have always been secondary. Nobody is saying "40k has the best fething ruleset and army lists, bar none, and I'm going to spend several $100s of my hard earned money because GW did such a damn fine job on the rules!" It's been about putting pretty models on the board and having a rollicking good time. If someone is paying for the rules, they are making a big mistake.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Nobody is really paying a premium for the rules, they are mostly paying for the background and pretty pictures.

Sorry but I don't care what else is in there. A £50 rulebook is a £50 rulebook, and £50 most certainly is a premium.

Nope, it's a $50 illustrated storybook with "free" rules.

I would like to see all codices updated to 7th edition, for SOB to get plastic models, and for gee-dubs to release more 30k stuff in plastic. (probably won't do a 30k army now, but I do want to use some Sicarans in my Marine army)

Honestly I would like a halfway between 7th and AoS. Make the rules simpler, but not pants on head stupid like shoot from inside melee into another unit outside the melee. Have the points all be multiples of 5, or lower the points to models being cheaper and options that change the model significantly alters the points, but switching a boltgun for a power ax should just be the same. Make fliers more common and its own rule, bit make them like back in fantasy. It's stupid that harpies and plague drones aren't considered fliers. Make the rules all free, but go AoS in reproducing the rules into a book with scenarios and big Lore sections. Make casters/psykers simplified, but not AoS level of only one unique power hardcast to one model only ever. My Nurgle sorcerer can't use death magic? Gtfo. And most importantly? Encourage making your own rules for casual games. Explain forge the Narrative, and make it a hard rule so GW lovers can't yell out RAW only. If I want to use a model from tyranids as a giant chaos spawn in fluff then I shouldn't be slammed by the rules unless it would be broken in mechanics

Ill be happy with a good internally balanced CSM codex with some vision behind it... and I will never ask for anything else from GW

Also bring back the £60 battalion boxes they were great for new starters! Hey you wanna start 40k?? Have all you need AND a rhino for a decent price!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Nope, it's a $50 illustrated storybook with "free" rules.

In that case, why not make the rules free and just sell the fluff and pictures?

Is it because virtually no one would buy the fluff and pictures if the rules were free? I'm thinking it's because virtually no one would buy the fluff and pictures if the rules were free.

aronthomas17 wrote:
Ill be happy with a good internally balanced CSM codex with some vision behind it... and I will never ask for anything else from GW[/quote

...until you want the rest of the daemonkin books xD I know I will be banging on there door for Nurgle and slaanesh