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Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

'Tis a sad day when people want Matt Ward back at GW. But at least he can write a fairly balanced codex.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

'Tis a sad day when people want Matt Ward back at GW. But at least he can write a fairly balanced codex.

Just to reiterate, please tell me why Matt Ward is hated for his fluff? I think he portrayed the Ultramarines quite accurately: overconfident jack of all trades, master of none who religiously follow a book they were told not to. I mean, look at Captain Cato Sicarius...

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

'Tis a sad day when people want Matt Ward back at GW. But at least he can write a fairly balanced codex.

Just to reiterate, please tell me why Matt Ward is hated for his fluff? I think he portrayed the Ultramarines quite accurately: overconfident jack of all trades, master of none who religiously follow a book they were told not to. I mean, look at Captain Cato Sicarius...

It was more because he portrayed the other Chapters as being cheap knock-offs of the Ultramarines, rather than distinct armies that have their own strengths.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Some one needs to get Dan Abnett on the fluff team and Matt Ward on crunch team. Bout time we got some balance.

'Tis a sad day when people want Matt Ward back at GW. But at least he can write a fairly balanced codex.

Just to reiterate, please tell me why Matt Ward is hated for his fluff? I think he portrayed the Ultramarines quite accurately: overconfident jack of all trades, master of none who religiously follow a book they were told not to. I mean, look at Captain Cato Sicarius...

It was more because he portrayed the other Chapters as being cheap knock-offs of the Ultramarines, rather than distinct armies that have their own strengths.

But don't the Ultramarines think that? Wasn't something said about WH40K fluff being not entirely true due to propaganda, record deletion or bias?

I'll just name 3 things that I would actually buy:

1. Codex: Imperial Guard -- with costs lowered, and rules tweaked so that IG can actually field a competitive shooty horde of dudes following Regimental Doctrines for multiple play styles.

2. Codex: Chaos Space Marines -- with formations and rules that allow unaligned CSM to be competitive in addition to MoK and MoN forces.

3. Chaos Knight Titan -- in plastic, to support 30k and 40k. I don't yet have an IKT, because I've kinda been waiting for one of these.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I'll just name 3 things that I would actually buy:

1. Codex: Imperial Guard -- with costs lowered, and rules tweaked so that IG can actually field a competitive shooty horde of dudes following Regimental Doctrines for multiple play styles.

2. Codex: Chaos Space Marines -- with formations and rules that allow unaligned CSM to be competitive in addition to MoK and MoN forces.

3. Chaos Knight Titan -- in plastic, to support 30k and 40k. I don't yet have an IKT, because I've kinda been waiting for one of these.

1: Probably gonna happen in some ways

2: If they made it like the Current SM codex but spikier, I wouldn't complain

3: Probably not....

CKT is pretty easy - it's just one alternate sprue, and from how well they sell, it's a no-brainer.

If Chaos Space Marines came out with legion rules similar to Chapter Tactics, I would be SOOOOO happy. Then again, if you look at many of the Legions, many of them are dark versions of Loyalist Chapters. Night Lords are Raven Guard, Iron Warriors are Imperial Fists, and Black Legion are Ultramarines. I am sure if I ruminated on it more I could find a Chapter the Alpha Legion resembled.

I just realized a theme...the Chaos Undivided Legions have Loyalist counterparts, whereas the ones devoted to the individual Chaos Gods do not have direct counterparts.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
If Chaos Space Marines came out with legion rules similar to Chapter Tactics, I would be SOOOOO happy. Then again, if you look at many of the Legions, many of them are dark versions of Loyalist Chapters. Night Lords are Raven Guard, Iron Warriors are Imperial Fists, and Black Legion are Ultramarines. I am sure if I ruminated on it more I could find a Chapter the Alpha Legion resembled.

I just realized a theme...the Chaos Undivided Legions have Loyalist counterparts, whereas the ones devoted to the individual Chaos Gods do not have direct counterparts.

Well....

Death Guard play nicely to Salamander tactics or Iron Hands

Thousands Suns play as Grey Knights (This is so possible to achieve. It might be an easy way to run them)

World Eaters play as Black Templars, Space Sharks or Blood Angels

Emperor's Children... probably White Scars or Dark Angels

Alpha legion would make sense as Raven Guard or Ultramarines, but more as Ravenguard because they use scouts a lot

Iron Warriors play as Imperial Fists or Iron Hands

Word Bearers play like Black Templar?

It really drives home how easy this would be to implement when only after minutes of thought we both were able to come up with working analogues for Chaos Space Marines.

Black Templars are actually fanatically adherent devotees of Khorne.

World eaters -> blood angels
Deathguard -> space wolves maybe?
Emperor's children -> Black Templar/imperial fists
Thousand Sons -> none really, unless you count Blood Ravens or feet knights

The legions, minus Alpha legion, all have overlap with eachother for seemingly no reason. This is further made a problem by the Codex, that limits growth and adaptation severely.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Black Templars are actually fanatically adherent devotees of Khorne.

PRAY BURN KILL PRAY BURN KILL


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It really drives home how easy this would be to implement when only after minutes of thought we both were able to come up with working analogues for Chaos Space Marines.

You could literally say "These tactics are for Loyalist X and Traitor Y" and "Loyalists get X, Y, Z for allies while Traitors get Q, R and S for allies"

Some get ITC on this

What do I want to see in 2016...

as much as I hate to say it...8E.

A fully rebooted, cleaned up, simplified "3E"-style 8E.

The game as it is has simply gotten to be unplayable. It's killed my desire to play. It's killed my purchasing. It's killed my painting. More to the point, it's killing the community except for the small handful of players that really enjoy basically "breaking" the game. The skies the limit for them, but nobody else is showing up for games anymore.

An 8E "reboot" edition is really what I'd like to see.

 Vaktathi wrote:
8E.

A fully rebooted, cleaned up, simplified "3E"-style 8E.

The game as it is has simply gotten to be unplayable. It's killed my desire to play. It's killed my purchasing. It's killed my painting. More to the point, it's killing the community except for the small handful of players that really enjoy basically "breaking" the game. The skies the limit for them, but nobody else is showing up for games anymore.

An 8E "reboot" edition is really what I'd like to see.

Well, crap. Now I want to change my answer, because I want this way more than a Chaos Knight.

 Vaktathi wrote:
What do I want to see in 2016...

as much as I hate to say it...8E.

A fully rebooted, cleaned up, simplified "3E"-style 8E.

The game as it is has simply gotten to be unplayable. It's killed my desire to play. It's killed my purchasing. It's killed my painting. More to the point, it's killing the community except for the small handful of players that really enjoy basically "breaking" the game. The skies the limit for them, but nobody else is showing up for games anymore.

An 8E "reboot" edition is really what I'd like to see.

Sadly, this is much the case for me as well. I have made some purchases for my Crimson Fists, but I have only painted one model from my Blood Angels in over a year, and that isn't going to change. No more purchases in sight for me (MAYBE another Drop Pod for my Crimson Fists). The Super Formation codexes have really killed the game for me.

 Vaktathi wrote:
What do I want to see in 2016...

as much as I hate to say it...8E.

A fully rebooted, cleaned up, simplified "3E"-style 8E.

The game as it is has simply gotten to be unplayable. It's killed my desire to play. It's killed my purchasing. It's killed my painting. More to the point, it's killing the community except for the small handful of players that really enjoy basically "breaking" the game. The skies the limit for them, but nobody else is showing up for games anymore.

An 8E "reboot" edition is really what I'd like to see.

I would dive right back into the game if they rebooted the damn rules and were actually able to streamline them and polish them the right way, not the AoS way.

Have you actually played AoS? Because it plays exactly like 40k does.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Have you actually played AoS? Because it plays exactly like 40k does.

Just without points values. Considering that points values in 40K are meaningless at best (see Wraithknight and Riptide), the one differentiation is basically not present. At least AoS doesn't try to hide the fact it is unbalanced.

 Psienesis wrote:
Forbes headline: "UK Gaming Giant, Games Workshop, sold to Hasbro"

I'd go with WotC. I think it'd be better to be Hasbro's indirect vassal, and answer directly to the Uberlord WotC.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Alpha legion would make sense as Raven Guard or Ultramarines, but more as Ravenguard because they use scouts a lot

Wat.

I'd love to see that particular snippet sourced.

The Alpha Legion in 30k was a mechanised force that fielded black ops-style SMs, infiltrators, with a solid amount of tactical maneuvering to give themselves the edge. Their conduct is more similar to that of Blitzkrieg (on the battlefield), followed by Total War/Sherman's March to the Sea, then Sheridan's campaign in the Shenandoah culminating in the Burning. Victory needed to be complete.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Have you actually played AoS? Because it plays exactly like 40k does.

That's (part of) the problem imo.

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

Alpha legion would make sense as Raven Guard or Ultramarines, but more as Ravenguard because they use scouts a lot

Wat.

I'd love to see that particular snippet sourced.

The Alpha Legion in 30k was a mechanised force that fielded black ops-style SMs, infiltrators, with a solid amount of tactical maneuvering to give themselves the edge. Their conduct is more similar to that of Blitzkrieg (on the battlefield), followed by Total War/Sherman's March to the Sea, then Sheridan's campaign in the Shenandoah culminating in the Burning. Victory needed to be complete.

"Chaos" Alpha Legion use cultists a lot an as solid tactic (in game) for Ravenguard to use camo scouts. Camo scout = cultist

My other minis/paints no longer in "out of state" status

Less anxiety

8th ed. then codex IG. Don't want anything else for w40k.

A white dwarf that has a bunch of formations for blood angels

More plastic heresy stuff, armour mark's, tanks etc.

The only other thing chaos space marines. New dex and models. The army needs to be what it is in the fluff. Super powerful stuff, decent units, proper legion choices, cult units more than just the ones available now and cult lords and other hero's

Ooo, I forgot one. I would like to see upgrades for some of the other Space Marine Chapters. Seriously, we got lots of new Raven Guard and White Scars stuff but no upgrades. They should release the other Loyalist Legion/Chapter sprues as well as Black Templars. At least the Raven Guard, White Scars, and Imperial/Crimson Fists.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
CKT is pretty easy - it's just one alternate sprue, and from how well they sell, it's a no-brainer.

The availability of the FW Chaos Knight kit makes it unlikely, it possible with the Calith boxset coming out but unlikely...

I'd like to see an announcement next year that the last HH book from FW is coming end of 2017 and that they are moving onto the scouring.
40k FW Mechancium book to finally make an appearance, it would be perfect if it was against a new (to the rules) Xenos army and if Sisters were some how involved as well.
Either Squats get rebooted or another new faction joins 40k, we've had Knights then Mechanicum so I'm hoping the pattern holds
A reboot of D weapons

- An 8th edition that resembles 5th.

- A Dark Eldar codex written by people who actually care about the army and are willing to put some actual effort into the book.