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 Tactical_Spam wrote:

"Chaos" Alpha Legion use cultists a lot an as solid tactic (in game) for Ravenguard to use camo scouts. Camo scout = cultist


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Gathering the Informations.

Codex: Cadia

With Sergeants/Officers having Lasguns and Scions being an Allied choice rather than a Codex choice.
Kasrkin come back as a unit.

*wishes harder*


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
If Chaos Space Marines came out with legion rules similar to Chapter Tactics, I would be SOOOOO happy. Then again, if you look at many of the Legions, many of them are dark versions of Loyalist Chapters. Night Lords are Raven Guard, Iron Warriors are Imperial Fists, and Black Legion are Ultramarines. I am sure if I ruminated on it more I could find a Chapter the Alpha Legion resembled.

I just realized a theme...the Chaos Undivided Legions have Loyalist counterparts, whereas the ones devoted to the individual Chaos Gods do not have direct counterparts.

A long, long, long time ago on this forum I posted up an idea for Loyalists and Traitors to have books based not on their names but specialties.
Loyalists
Ultramarines and the closely Codex Adherent Chapters(Imperial Fists/Crimson Fists)
Dark Angels and Blood Angels
Iron Hands and their Successors plus Raven Guard and their Successors
Space Wolves and Black Templars

Traitors
Black Legion, Night Lords, and Alpha Legion
Khorne devotees
Slaanesh devotees
Nurgle devotees
Tzeentch devotees

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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Agreed. Say what you want about the man's fluff, but he was very good at balancing codexes internally and externally. I know I would rather have my Assault Marine Troops, Scouting Fast Attack Baal Predators, and Death Company Troops.


Seriously? As far as his rules writing went, the Necron 5th edition book was horribly balanced, internally and externally.

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Gathering the Informations.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Ooo, I forgot one. I would like to see upgrades for some of the other Space Marine Chapters. Seriously, we got lots of new Raven Guard and White Scars stuff but no upgrades. They should release the other Loyalist Legion/Chapter sprues as well as Black Templars. At least the Raven Guard, White Scars, and Imperial/Crimson Fists.

Seriously.

Raven Guard got rules for a sweet as all hell Relic Jump Pack, and then...nothing. Even the model in the Raven Guard boxed set was generic.
Cut to a few weeks later and BLOOD ANGELS of all friggin' people got yet another character blister.
   
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A cleaned up 8th edition that plays like 6th or 7th. I've tried to get into 4th and 5th and the rules seemed even more obtuse than 6th.

I like how 6th and 7th play, I just wish the rules were tighter and the armies were more balanced.

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Chaos to get the proper love it's been screaming for since the 4th edition clusterfeth...

Daemons are the one and only bright spot right now for Chaos as a whole, though we're still missing:
- 3 Greater Daemons.
- Changebringers of Tzeentch
- proper daemonic spawn for all the gods. (Khorne Bloodbeasts, Tzeentch Firewyrms, etc...)
- Plastic models for Furies, Fiends, Flesh Hounds, Beasts of Nurgle.
- the 3 God-specific lores to get a full 6 + Primaris powers... Make Tzeentch the random yet really destructive lore, Nurgle focuses on buffs/toughness-based hexes + toughness-based damage spells, and Slaanesh the Ld/I screwing + direct damage/cover ignoring lore.


Chaos Marines as they stand just need to be thrown in garbage bin and re-booted from the ground up at this point... The only way to "fix" them is to go full 'Dark Eldar re-vamp' mode on them, as the current model line is almost entirely 10-15+ years old at this point, and missing half or more of our basic upgrade options to boot!


Give us proper Traitor Guard that doesn't involve being forced to shell out $200 for a FW book dammit!
Just put it into the bloody Guard codex itself, that they can be 'Allies of Convenience' with Chaos... or else release a new mini-dex for The Lost and the Damned that includes the rough basics such as Mutants, Plague Zombies, Traitors/Heretic platoons, Chimeras, Leman Russ, Hellhounds, Sentinels, Arch Heretics, Psykers...


Of course, this is GW we're talking about, and their current attitude towards Chaos in general is to the point that they may as well just get it over with and squat us already.

 
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Ooo, I forgot one. I would like to see upgrades for some of the other Space Marine Chapters. Seriously, we got lots of new Raven Guard and White Scars stuff but no upgrades. They should release the other Loyalist Legion/Chapter sprues as well as Black Templars. At least the Raven Guard, White Scars, and Imperial/Crimson Fists.

Seriously.

Raven Guard got rules for a sweet as all hell Relic Jump Pack, and then...nothing. Even the model in the Raven Guard boxed set was generic.
Cut to a few weeks later and BLOOD ANGELS of all friggin' people got yet another character blister.
Well, the Raven Guard are probably selling well enough. Blood Angels needed a shot of life because they are probably selling like gak due to terrible rules. But obviously it is because everyone has their kits already so they need new ones. That was probably GW's thought process. I would love to see a Scars upgrade kit and Raven Guard upgrade kit, even ahead of my Fists. Give them unique stuff like a Power Glaive for Scars and a special jump pack (a 30K variant maybe?) for Raven Guard.

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Gathering the Informations.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Ooo, I forgot one. I would like to see upgrades for some of the other Space Marine Chapters. Seriously, we got lots of new Raven Guard and White Scars stuff but no upgrades. They should release the other Loyalist Legion/Chapter sprues as well as Black Templars. At least the Raven Guard, White Scars, and Imperial/Crimson Fists.

Seriously.

Raven Guard got rules for a sweet as all hell Relic Jump Pack, and then...nothing. Even the model in the Raven Guard boxed set was generic.
Cut to a few weeks later and BLOOD ANGELS of all friggin' people got yet another character blister.
Well, the Raven Guard are probably selling well enough. Blood Angels needed a shot of life because they are probably selling like gak due to terrible rules. But obviously it is because everyone has their kits already so they need new ones. That was probably GW's thought process. I would love to see a Scars upgrade kit and Raven Guard upgrade kit, even ahead of my Fists. Give them unique stuff like a Power Glaive for Scars and a special jump pack (a 30K variant maybe?) for Raven Guard.

See, there's the rub...

There is NOTHING sold by GW itself that is Raven Guard aside from Shrike. Forge World are the only ones who make Raven Guard(and their Successor, the Raptors) items.
Hell GW don't even sell the Raven Guard transfer sheet.

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Allies removed.
Assault from reserves reinstated.
Old Fleet reinstated.
D weapons, Gargantuan and Superheavies back to Escalation where it belongs.
Invisibility reworked to a BS modifier.
Grav weapons toned down (remove grav amp).
Free stuff reigned in (capped at 10% of army size).
Ignore Cover becomes a modifier instead of a complete negation, and very sparse in a codex.
Cover saves from intervening units clarified.
   
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As ever, until it comes true (and everyone inevitably regrets it) the only appropriate answer is plastic sisters of battle.

My personal preference is to see them in a mini-dex that aims to maximize their synergy with other imperial armies. Elite tough objective takers and skirmishers relative to guard, distinct heavy weapon assets relative to marines, a roughly rounded army that can at least reasonably fare well by itself or augment certain weaknesses with assassins and inquisitors.

I'd even appreciate an update to their design.

   
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 N.I.B. wrote:
Allies removed.
Assault from reserves reinstated.
Old Fleet reinstated.
D weapons, Gargantuan and Superheavies back to Escalation where it belongs.
Invisibility reworked to a BS modifier.
Grav weapons toned down (remove grav amp).
Free stuff reigned in (capped at 10% of army size).
Ignore Cover becomes a modifier instead of a complete negation, and very sparse in a codex.
Cover saves from intervening units clarified.


So, 40k 8th ed? I could get behind that.

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1. Update 'Nids, Orks, and CSM (models would be nice, but I "proxy" my 30k army as my 40k Death Guard ) first, but every codex updated would be nice by the end of 2016
2. More plastic Heresy, I have tonnes of FW, but Calth is so nice in the fact that it can just instantly add 1500+ to a force with almost no effort.
3. The player base to get less grumpy. Yes, GW has gak business practices, but nothing turns new players away faster then going to a forum to get started, and reading all the jaded players saying the game hasn't been good since I put on my nostalgia goggles.
4. I don't use formations (again, 30k), but keeping with the general codex "theme" of decurion + other stuff would be nice for balancing
5. MAGNUS AND HIS LEGION'S RULES AND MODELS BEFORE 2017 PLEASE!


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 N.I.B. wrote:
Allies removed.
Assault from reserves reinstated.
Old Fleet reinstated.
D weapons, Gargantuan and Superheavies back to Escalation where it belongs.
Invisibility reworked to a BS modifier.
Grav weapons toned down (remove grav amp).
Free stuff reigned in (capped at 10% of army size).
Ignore Cover becomes a modifier instead of a complete negation, and very sparse in a codex.
Cover saves from intervening units clarified.


I never got the allies hate, is it because some people honestly abuse it? I've never seen a really bad issue outside of tournaments. Not sure if I would change ignore cover, but make it harder to get (flamers, yes. The sheer number of templates that have it now, no) I like most of the rest though.

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The dark behind the eyes.

 N.I.B. wrote:
Allies removed.
Assault from reserves reinstated.
Old Fleet reinstated.
D weapons, Gargantuan and Superheavies back to Escalation where it belongs.
Invisibility reworked to a BS modifier.
Grav weapons toned down (remove grav amp).
Free stuff reigned in (capped at 10% of army size).
Ignore Cover becomes a modifier instead of a complete negation, and very sparse in a codex.
Cover saves from intervening units clarified.


I'd suggest that Invisibility just go back to providing Shrouded, otherwise I'm in agreement with this.

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 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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More campaigns

Adepta Sororitas update - new figures and rules

Chaos update - similar to above

Genestealer Cult - as above.

Some proper background for the AOS world and Stat card army boxes for this

Stat card army boxes for 40k


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Allow templates and blast weapons to make snap shots. That would fix so many issues and units.

Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
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The dark behind the eyes.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
Allow templates and blast weapons to make snap shots. That would fix so many issues and units.


Honestly, I'd rather see the entire snapshot mechanic removed.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Well, I'm expecting actually nothing. Then one cannot get disappointed.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:
7th edition 40k is a lot like BDSM these days. Only play with people you know and develop a safe word for when things get too intense. And It doesn't hurt to be a sadist or masochist as well.
 xSoulgrinderx wrote:
No. but jink is cover and if the barrage its center they wont be getting cover
 
   
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Granted it's going to be repeating what many have said but specifically I'd want:

1) Plastic Sisters
2) All Old 'dexs updated
3) Full plastic kits for Rubric Marines (Although the FW ones are coming soon! )
4) Seperate Khorne/Tzeench/Slaanesh/Nurgle/Black Legion CSM codexes. If we Loyalists can get multi-chapter Codexes, I want CSM to have it too.
5) Separate IG/Cadian/Armageddon Steel Legion Codexes
   
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Well, I'd like to see a new CSM codex which is somewhere near the old 3.5 codex, the best codex ever made for 40k.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I'm expecting actually nothing. Then one cannot get disappointed.
GW will find a way.

Still waiting for Godot. 
   
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preston

New sisters of battle including plastic kits.

A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar

Free from GW's tyranny and the hobby is looking better for it
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 master of ordinance wrote:
A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar


Fast Leman Russes anyone? MC ogryns? what will they think of next!

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Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
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-poop on a sticks for at least half a year. -> This will be great for my wallet
-Trade in program, bring in your unused sprues / bits for discount on new ones. -> I would love this.

Thing that would be horrible for my wallet.
-> Good ork rules for walkers,fliers, kommandoes, flash gith and MANZ ( the only things I don't have a ton of )
-> New cool ork models with even better rules.
-> Inquisition update, this could invalidate most of my main army and potentially trigger some impulse buying.
-> Grim darkness upgrade sprues, filled with animal skulls, vestigial body parts, fish & bird head swaps, cyberanimals, dead babies, skulls etc.. This is my wallets nightmare. Quite sure that I would be tempted to double my imperial army size if this becomes available.



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Other things that would be horrible.

Good models and rules for Imperial reptile mounts, enslavers and radical inquisitors.

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 Carlson793 wrote:

- *ALL current codices/models updated to 7th before moving on to the "next new army"


This.
   
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preston

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
 master of ordinance wrote:
A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar


Fast Leman Russes anyone? MC ogryns? what will they think of next!

ooohhh yes, and the Baneblade gains the D strength on all its guns and now costs 200 points....
Okay maybe I was being a little (read 'a lot') silly but hey, a Wo-class can dream.

On a serious note though I would love to see a new Guard codex that was on par with Space Marines and possibly Necrons but did not require me to purchase 400+ new figures.

Free from GW's tyranny and the hobby is looking better for it
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 master of ordinance wrote:
A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar

On a serious note though I would love to see a new Guard codex that was on par with Space Marines and possibly Necrons but did not require me to purchase 400+ new figures.


As I have repeatedly said, IG should be on par with Necrons and SMs and the other formation armies (i.e. Tau). However, I do disagree that IG should ever be better than Eldar - I'd want them both at par from a competitive standpoint, with the IG representing the extreme of quantity and the Eldar representing the extreme of quality.

As for purchases, if you already own 2500+ pts of IG, I'd think you shouldn't need to buy anything more to play at the 1850 pt level under a new IG Codex; I just happen to think that what is currently 2500 pts of IG should be recosted closer to 1850 pts in the next IG Codex.

   
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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
 master of ordinance wrote:
A new Imperial Guard codex that puts us on par with, if not better than, the Eldar

On a serious note though I would love to see a new Guard codex that was on par with Space Marines and possibly Necrons but did not require me to purchase 400+ new figures.


As I have repeatedly said, IG should be on par with Necrons and SMs and the other formation armies (i.e. Tau). However, I do disagree that IG should ever be better than Eldar - I'd want them both at par from a competitive standpoint, with the IG representing the extreme of quantity and the Eldar representing the extreme of quality.

As for purchases, if you already own 2500+ pts of IG, I'd think you shouldn't need to buy anything more to play at the 1850 pt level under a new IG Codex; I just happen to think that what is currently 2500 pts of IG should be recosted closer to 1850 pts in the next IG Codex.

Its GW, the new 'Emperors Mine Clearance' will consist of approximately 1000 Guardsmen armed with Lasguns. This will be a single blob unit and will have the Move Through Cover special rule and will remove any Dangerous Terrain it moves over on a 4+. Each infantry man whom has to make a Dangerous Terrain test will automatically fail.
Guardsmen themselves will cost 1 point each with Veterans costing 2. The stats will be reduced to reflect this with Guardsmen now being WS and BS 2 and Veterans being BS 3 and the Lasgun will be S 2. Flak armour will not provide a 6+ save and will cost 2 PPM.

Free from GW's tyranny and the hobby is looking better for it
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