I must be the prized customer of Games Workshop because I am a sucker. All they have to do is throw the word "Legion" in front of something and I want it. I was really excited to paint my first "Legion" tactical squad even though it's the same as the other 100 or so squads I've already painted. That's called being a sucker gents.

Anyway, decided to finally do a Pre-Heresy army and chose Ultramarines. I'm trying to weather them in a manner to indicate heavy action, but I don't want them to look totally beat the hell up. I'm thinking they just entered the catacombs under Calth at the start of the Underworld War. I'm not really happy with the bases, I was going for a ruins look. I'll probably change it. I got a bunch of Forgeworld awesomeness and a couple copies of Betray at Calth. So here are some pics.....

Looking good so far FSU and welcome back! If I can suggest some bases, try secret weapon miniatures ruined temple bases as I feel that they will fit what you are trying to go for.

Great to see you doing Ultras. Looking forward to your take on these guys.

He's back, he's doing heresy, he's making it look awesome, I'm subbed!

Hey thanks guys, appreciate you stopping in.

Ustrello: I was thinking about those bases. Dragon Forge also has some cool ones but I kinda enjoy making them myself.

Nevelon: We will see how they pan out I dont think Ive painted blue marines before. I have a FW legion transfer sheet on the way, that should give them some pop.

Paradigm: Always a pleasure sir. Love the shattered legions.

YES! I love your work brother! Can't wait to see what you do!

Thanks Azalle! How about a quick shot of the first Legion Tactical Squad, Contemptor, and Sicaran.

Damn pictures. I'll fix it in the morning. Y'all get the idea.

All coming along nicely! What paints/methods are you using for the weathering?

Looking good (upside-down dread hurts my neck).

EDC

I knew Calth was the Ultramarines first taste of Chaos, but I didn't know they were fighting sideways and upside down .

Great work as usual FSU.

I think he’s just posting that way for the benefit of people on the wrong side of the globe.

Coming along nicely!

Those are some lovely, dirty Ultras.

very nice! those cookies that theyre standing on look delicious as well although the icing seems to have broken on some

@paradigm- I'm using the ole sponge method with a mix of chaos black and rhinos hide. Followed by a very lite brush with iron breaker. I use a dry brush to dust them with Valello light Siena.

@evildrcheese- Thanks man, sorry about the neck!

@Theophony- Ha! Those crazy Word Bearers pulled out all the stops.

@Nevelon- sadly, it's just my computer and phone are smarter than I am.

@BrotherSRM- thanks man, I appreciate it

@usernamesareannoying- Nothing but the best in baked goods for the emperors finest. Unfortunately I'm gonna rebase in the future.

So the Contemptor is painted, just need to add the transfers. The FW legion sheet hasn't arrived yet so I'll put him aside till then. I'm gonna start on the jet bikes and built the Sicaran tank. This army is gonna be governed by the infallible Rule of Cool, I don't even have one of the HH books for an army list. I'll probably pick one up at some point but until then.........

Nice Dread!

If you need any help checking what's legal for a HH force and what's not, let me know and I'll make sure it's all workable. Some of their unit builds are a bit funny (for example, no Special Weapons in Tactical Squads, but you can then take all-Special squads).

Thanks for the offer, Ill probably take you up on it. In the meantime one of the bikes is mostly done. Just needs some Legion transfers and dirt.

really. again.

I read the original post, but somehow missed that you were adding shiny FW stuff in addition to the BaC stuff. Looks very nice!

Love the jetbikes so far! I am slowly starting work on my HH raven guard army myself.

Nevelon- Thanks man, there is much FW goodness on this thread. Sicaran is almost built. Im also gonna get some 30k Predators and Vindicators. Everything will be FW except the standard infantry and possibly a Knight.

Ustrello- Thanks man, Ive been lurking on your thread, very nice.

Can't wait to see what you do with the Sicaran!

Well Master Azalle, the Sicaran is built and ready for paint. That thing is freak in sweet. Got my Legion transfers in too so the other guys are done and ready to get beat up.

Wicked. Excellent jetbike.

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the decals added a lot.
they look great.

Thanks gents. Talk about timing, Ive always wanted to build a Minotaur army so I decided to buy a transfer sheet from FW with the Ultramarines. Well, apparently I got the last one. Hows that for luck. I guess Im obligated to figure out bronze now.

Hah, awesome! I believe the painting legend that is Nerdfest09 did some Minos recently, possibly with a mini-tutorial/explanation in his blog. Might be worth a look. AzazelX also has some in the works in his thread, and Januine got some awesome muted metals on his last batch of Ad Mech (might be a little too gold for Minos, though). Plenty of inspiration out there!

Jetbike looks good.

Paradigm- ive checked out those guys and a lot of others. I have 2 problems. My preferred method is the brush, but the formula I like results in pooling on vehicles. Can't figure a way around that. The other problem is should I buy an airbrush. That would probably be best but is I'm gonna spend money, I would rather it be models. Oh well, first world problems.

Here's a quick WIP of the Sicaran and more Ultramarines.

Well, I think I spelled that right. My first ever 30k Terminators, pretty sharp! I like these far more than the 40k guys.

Very nice! Are you planning on keeping this army or will you sell it?

I'll probably sell them. I'm gonna structure the army so it can be played as 40k or 30k. I've had to just accept I don't have the time to play so maybe someone else would enjoy it.

Looking great, the off-white shoulder hangy-things (there's probably a word, but I can't recall it for the life of me) are a nice touch.

Bitten by the Heresy bug as well I see. If you're a sucker, so am I.

Your terminators look fantastic, the blue is really good, I like the worn look you've given them.

What problems are you having with painting bronze vehicles and pooling?

Hey Noodles, good to hear from you. As for the bronze and pooling, I am using the wrong technique for vehicles. A brush wash can't be the best way to go. Thing is that is the only way I can work out a flat bronze. Still experimenting with colors.

A small update with theSicaran and second jet bike....

nice job with the sicaran so far! Do you prime white or just lots of thinned layers of white? Because it is looking good so far

Hmm, you could be trying to paint too much too quickly, I admit I had trouble with washes on large areas, my fix was to stop using them.

There are a few things you could try, look at some sort of flow aid or anything to lower the surface tension, you could also try a hair-dryer to accelerate the drying process. Maybe Doing one panel, or side or whatever, at a time as well, to limit the amount of pooling and you might be able to keep surfaces more horizontal.

Get some scraps of plasticard or whatever and try things out.

Ustrelo- i used a thin coat of grey followed by a bunch of thinned down pallid wych flesh for the white, or actually an off white.

Noodles- too much too quickly is usually how my projects go. I could probably paint a lot better if I could ever maintain army discipline. I hear your point though. I've tried your advice and even if the pooling is solved, streaks appear. I'm just gonna have to figure out something entirely different. I've been surfing YouTube for painting tips.

In the meantime, Sicaran finished.

That is an awesome piece of armour!

As for the Minos brass/bronze, one theory I've just had is to basecoat as normal, Sepia or Agrax wash applied all over but not in great quantity (more a glaze than a wash, you just want to tint the surface), then applied again directly into the recesses, then drybrush the original metallic colour over the top of the panels and edges. You'd need to experiment, that's just a shot in the dark, but it could give you a nice worn metal look.

Lovely tank. You don’t see much white on UM vehicles, works nice as an accent color. Makes me think of weathering though, 5 seconds in the field and there is going to be muck everywhere.

Thanks gents, I appreciate the comments and advice. I gotta figure a way to take better pics. My iphone is a 6 and it has a great camera, but the pics spin on Dakka. Ill try some more pics of the tank, the white is washed out a bit. Ive also finished up 5 more Legionaries. Soon as Im done with the second squad Im gonna start on the more interesting infantry.

A slightly better pic of the Sicaran and 5 more Ultramarines.

Very nice FSU! I almost want to get one myself, but luckily for me I already put in my forgeworld order so I don't have to worry about that

That Sicaran looks lovely in the final photo. The white is very nice. I normally use a grey-white, but I think I will try your way with the pallid wych flesh on my next army. When you say it was thinned down, I assume you mean water, not white?

Love your sicaran!

Thanks guys, glad you like it. The first pics were a wash out. Fifty, I used administratum grey (I think thats its name) followed by a bunch of watered down palid flesh. i think 4 or 5 coats.

And here is this guy. I like him a lot more than I thought. Since I bought 2 BaC sets, I have an extra. Also an extra chaplain. Gonna try to convert them. Anyway....

Very cool! I am making my chaplain into a jump pack chaplain (I got an extra dark fury jump pack on ebay) to go with my dark furies for large point games. They are super fun to convert up.

Awesome stuff. Can't help but feel the cape needs some white on it, though, either an Ultra symbol or some edging or something.

Thanks gents, I am considering something on the cape. But not decided, I kinda like the blank black cape.

So, not much of an update. Finished the last bike and some more ultras almost done. Mostly I just want to see if I have figured out the rotated pics.

Hmmm. Maybe it works now.

Yeah the pictures work now, and the jet bike is looking good! How do you shade the paneling for the white? Do you use a blue or black?

I just used black. Nuln Oil actually. I used it to outline everything.

Speaking of which, 5 more legionaries. I should probably paint there guys some guns. May come in handy.

So my plan tonight was simply to base the last 5 Tactical guys, wait, Legion Tactical guys, and assemble the pilots of the jet bikes. And the Chaplain ended up happening.

Very nice FSU, I can't wait to start my BaC box set myself. I really like that transfer on his chest, does that come with the box?

Looks good! All I'd do is maybe a very thin black wash over the transfer, it's really sticking out at the moment (which might be what you were going for).

Great paint job on a nice mini!

Your color choices are starting to confuse me. In the first post of this thread, the sarge has a red/white plume/crest thing on his helm. Pretty normal there. Might just be my personal bias as a 3rd company guy, but red and white are natural accent colors for Ultras to me.

Then the black cape on the terminator. That’s something you don’t see every day. Looks good on him, but black is a rarity in UM paintjobs. It’s the accent color of the 5th battle company, but I can’t say I’ve ever seen it used. And this is 30k, so things can be different.

Then the chaplain here. Ok, black cape again. Rockin’ it in a menacing style, all’s good. But where did the green crest come from? I mean, it looks great, well executed, works for the mini. But I was expecting red and/or white to fit in with the rest of the army. Do you have plans on including more green? From a 40k POV it’s the 4th company’s color, and I’ve seen an army done with it. Not sure if it signifies something else in 30k.

Characters often march to their own beat, keeps them separate from the rank and file. Just curious with the though process that ended up green.

(Not to sound critical, just curious. I really like the guy, he just don’t seem to fit with the rest of the force)

Ustrello- it does comes with the set. Kind of a beating, not enough transfers for 30 marines. Still a good sheet though.

Paradigm- I kinda like how the transfer sticks out. I do plan on doing something for the transfers. Especially on the Sicaran, the excess film really shows.

Nevelon- I was wondering if anyone would notice. The red and white will be squad leaders. All capes will be black, just cause I like black capes. The plumes on the character models will each be different. Kind of a color of their office. If I make another chapalin, he will be green, but no one else will have green. No specific reason why. Just figured what the hell.

Well I won't be using mine if you want me to send you it in the mail.

Looking excellent. I especially like how you've done the Sicaran. the use of white for the turret is spot on.

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 40kFSU wrote:
Nevelon- I was wondering if anyone would notice. The red and white will be squad leaders. All capes will be black, just cause I like black capes. The plumes on the character models will each be different. Kind of a color of their office. If I make another chapalin, he will be green, but no one else will have green. No specific reason why. Just figured what the hell.

Cool! Thanks for the info.

Thanks gents, this weekends ambitious goal.

Ok, got the bikes finished. I switched the champions head because I figure he is a HQ guy, but not really a leader guy. Still need to go back and finish his sword. I saw GW has a tutorial on making blades look cool. Figure I will check it out. I really like the guy with the communications gear. Can't remember his name but he is cool.

I am liking the head swap it makes him look more like just a normal champion.

Actually a question about the model for the champion (if you remember). Does the hand holding the sword have the hilt and pommel intact on it or is that gone to make a connecting point for the other hand? I am planning on a conversion involving that model and I want to know how big of a headache I will have in the future.

Good stuff, the gold plates and helm on the Champion definitely sell him as a warrior rather than a leader, while still keeping him looking like an Ultramarine. The bikes are splendid too!

Thanks again for the kind words gents. As for your question, Ustrello, the arms and sword are all one piece. If you look at the previous post with the bases FW pieces you can see it. Right side of the pic right above the unfinished sergeant. You can see the entire piece as casted by FW. Hope that helps

Also a pic of next up. After this back to building.

Awesome I didn't notice that! Well it looks like I will be mainly using the master of signals to make my conversion. The dread is looking good though!

Looking good. The Champ looks awesome.

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Duel Wielding MultiMelta! That's a lot of Armour melting

Thanks again guys. Got the second, more shooty, Contemptor finished.

Your work is always superb 40kFSU, thank you for sharing. Is the name and numbering free hand or decals? If it is decals how do you get it to not shine?

 Spacewolverine wrote:
Your work is always superb 40kFSU, thank you for sharing. Is the name and numbering free hand or decals? If it is decals how do you get it to not shine?

I think it's a decal that he's very cleverly put a matte coat over, but I very well could be wrong.

P.S. Nice painting, looks good.

Brilliant Contemptor. Not sure if I've said before but your whites are really crisp.

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Thanks gents. I would love to sit here and lie to you about some awesome matte finish process I used to dull the transfers, but I can't. . Haven't been by my gane shop to pick any up. I will be doing so. Truth is, it was a lucky shot with the light. In the meantime, back to building.

Looking forward to see what you do with these chaps.

EDC

Nice poses on those guys, full of intent and menace. Dread looks awesome too!

I've been slacking too much on my painting this month - You are making me feel bad by your progress! Great work man - Keep it up!

Thanks guys. Got my first Legion Heavy Weapons Squad built. It's important to remember this squad is in no way anything like a space marine devastator squad. In fact, I'm embarrassed for even bringing it up.

Nice work on the Contemptors and I really like the gold on your champion & MoS.

Fantastic work, keep it up

Thanks Noodles. Next squad of Terminators are about half finished.

Looking good so far.

Only a 5 man heavy weapons team? :(

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 40kFSU wrote:
Thanks guys. Got my first Legion Heavy Weapons Squad built. It's important to remember this squad is in no way anything like a space marine devastator squad. In fact, I'm embarrassed for even bringing it up.

I actually haven't read enough on these guys to know the difference - I feel ashamed. :(

Looking Good FSU!

I'm toying with the Idea of running a 10 man Lascannon Heavy weapon squad in 30k... they are Way different to play with

Thanks gents.

Nordicus, I wouldn't worry about not reading enough on these guys. I've read tons and still haven't a clue. Also, thanks for stopping by.

Azalle, dude I am loving your black and gold marines. They look awesome. I thought about grabbing some other type of weapon but the ML and HB are just too cool. And the Rule of Cool will dictate this army.

Cheese, only 5 at the moment. I have to see what I have left.

In the meantime........Deimos Rhinos!!!!!

I love hate those models. Love the way they look hate putting them together

A modern version of the classic look. Very nice.

Im tellin you guys, these models are great. Whats even better is I got them off Ebay already assembled. Talk about a lucky find. They were a little more expensive than buying direct, but not building was worth it.

 40kFSU wrote:
Im tellin you guys, these models are great. Whats even better is I got them off Ebay already assembled. Talk about a lucky find. They were a little more expensive than buying direct, but not building was worth it.

They are indeed - I went the route with the normal rhinos and custom doors, as WB had 30k icon doors. If they didn't I would love to get some of these painted up.

Looking forward to seeing your touch on them man!

Alright, a fast update. 2nd Terminator squad is finished and the Missile launchers are coming right along.

That is a nice blue, is it GW spray or armypainter?
Or airbrushed?

Termies are looking great. Nice catch on the rhinos, I've got one which of them in my back log.

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Nice work on the second Termie unit!

FSU, how did you shade the missile launchers? I'd love to try and mimic that

Okay I read through a second time and missed it still, so If you already posted I tried!

But what are you using for the bronze/gold work. Especially on the champion. I really like that and have several places I would like to use it!

Theophony- Its a base of Army painter blue followed by Calgar Blue. Then dry brushed with Ethereal Blue, which I think is discontinued. The recesses are shaded with Nuln Oil. And its all brush. Although I may have to break down and get an airbrush for Minotaurs.

Paradigm and Cheese- Thanks gents, I plan to paint a Rhino after the Heavy Support Squad.

Azalle- The Missile Launchers are easy, I like easy, we are good friends. Its Skavenblight Dinge with a healthy wash of Nuln Oil. Followed by a dry brush of Longbeard Gray.

Angelos- The gold is Ironbreaker, which is silver. Its got a wash of Nuln Oil, followed by Agrax Earthshade, followed by Seraphim Sephia.

Thank you much!

Alright, got the First Heavy Support Squad finished up. Pretty sharp! I decided to use the alternate legion symbol mainly because I have a ton of them. So why not, right?

Good stuff!

Any plans for a shiny, massive centrepiece to the army? A big superheavy, or even Guilliman himself?

Stealing that green for the rockets. They look good as always!

Agreed on the green looking great on the ML, good looking stuff all round...keep it up.

Heavy weapon squad look great, the green on the rockets is a nice touch.

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It all looks simple (don't know if it actually is!) but it is certainly effective.

Thanks everyone, glad y'all like the green. Figured I would use a bright color for the missiles, one I would not repeat elsewhere in the army. I don't see myself buying the Primarch. Will definitely get one of the big cool tanks. And yes this is a pretty simple scheme once you get it down. You see, easy and I are old friends. Easy introduced me to simple a while back and we get along great!

So, a WIP of the Javeline. Which is a really, really cool model.

I love the way that speeder looks, but it’s rules grate on me. One more case of FW stuff being just a little too good.

It reminds me of the old deodorant-based grav attack vehicle. In a nostalgic good way.

Green missiles are cool. What kind are they? Somewhere back in time I read that white with red tips were armor piercing, and as that’s all I shoot, that’s what I paint mine as.

Hey Nevelon. Well, not knowing how to play saves me from the over the top FW rules. As for the missiles, they are just green because I like the green. And.........all done. Well, except for the crew.

That's super awesome.

*immediately goes to look up the rules for the Javeline*

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Awesome indeed! Vastly prefer that to the 40k LS!

Thanks gents. There is something about the Javelin that says "style". Speaking of which, I started a ride for some lucky legionaries. I also put together the first 5 seekers. GW was kind enough to put a combi weapon with every kit, so I have enough for a whole squad.

Kick arse work Sir. Please PM me when you send this army off to auction, like all of your armies.

Yeah the amount of options in B@C is pretty awesome.

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Very nice on the javeline!

The Javelin looks fantastic!

As always, thanks for the kind words gents. Second Heavy Support Squad anyone?

Yeah! Gotta love the HB. Dakka!

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Oh Hells yeah

Thanks gents. Speaking of dakka, I need to back up a bit. If I dont start painting bolt guns, Ill get so far behind, Ill never catch up. Ive got a ton of guys painted, no guns! I also need to work out the rest of the way to build out the army. I think Ive got another 35 marines to build, not sure the direction I want to go.

So, yes, a boring update. Buncha bolt guns and a Sgt Chronus I cut up a little. He is my new Techmarine.

Nice Techy conversion!

Wow, great work as always man! And the fact that you do this all with brush only is really awe inspiring. I don't have the patience for that lol. Really nice Ultras. I like your blue a lot.

Go Noles!

So I did the math and decided it was wiser to spend $15 on something to kitbash rather than $30 or so on the FW Mark IV Techmarine. Cool as he is. I grabbed a Sgt Chronos model. He has suitably archaic looking armor and an arm thing on his pack. So I think he passes pretty well.

Especially if you're running Ultras!

Nice looking model, as always!

I really like him!

Awesome Techmarine conversion.

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Aye, that's really cool.

Thanks for all the positive comments guys. I really appreciate it. I'm almost to a point where I can take a pretty respectable army shot. In the meantime, work on the Rhino

Finished up the first Rhino. Pretty sharp!

Very nice indeed. Looking forward to the army shot you've promised us.

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Very cool - I always liked the Deimos Rhinos although I'm sad that you cannot customize it to your own legion, similar to normal Rhinos.

Looking forward to seeing a army shot - If you post one, I will do the same!

Sharp looking box there. Love the classic design.

Awesome paintwork with the highlighting. I never was happy with my straight blue.

Thanks as always for the kind words gents. Small update tonight, I finished the Javelin crew. I'm gonna make a custom base for this guy once I figure out what style I want.

Nicely done! that is some very crisp work there especially the Land speeder it looks fantastic! may I ask if you use grey and white to highlight your blues? it just appears that way and I kinda like it!

I hate you for making me like Ultrasmurfs

 Fifty wrote:
I hate you for making me like Ultrasmurfs

I chalk it up to them Being 30K ultrasmurfs, so totally okay to like them, especially after the beating they take at Calth, which makes it understandable why they are dorks in 40K.

The Javelin is looking great.

As an aside how easy/difficult did you find the construction of the Deimos and 'speeder? Any miscasts or warped parts?

Speeder is great

Javelin crew are looking good. What's next on the agenda?

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Thanks everyone! And yes, it's ok to like 30k Ultramarines. They seem like a legit bad ass legion. I'm hoping to get an army shot in the next couple days.

Thraxas, you were asking about the quality of the molds? They were perfect. Had to trim a little flash but all the pieces fit together with no problems.

Nerdfest, the highlight is Etherium Blue. Dry color from GW. I think it's discontinued but you can find it on eBay.

Speaking of eBay, I enjoy doing at least one eBay rescue in each of my armies. I didn't think I would have an opportunity with a 30k army, but then I found that pile of resin you see in the first picture. It's 5 MK 4 assault marines. I think. In the meantime, the second Heavy Support Squad is all done....

Very nice on the javelin! Idk if I asked but are you keeping this army or selling it?

Very nice support squad. I really like those Heavy Bolters.

HB squad is looking good. Can't wait to see the rescue project!

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First off : sorry for missing out on all your great work!


The Ultramarine blue (and the models) is stunning!

Ustrello, yeah I'll be selling it. Always looking for the next project.

Sicksix, Cheese, Greldinard, thank you very much.

So here is the rescued squad. Just threw on a couple BaC bits and I was in business. The resin was a little damaged so they Ultramine dark gray certainly helps.

Liking it so far.

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Looking good! Do Ultramarines have grey-armoured Destroyers or is that just a WIP before the blue? They do look really cool in grey, and it fits the fluff; Ultramarines probably wouldn't be proud to use such units, but equally, are pragmatic enough to recognise their tactical value, unlike the Legions that eschew them completely.

Thanks Cheese.

Paradigm, yes the Ultramarines use gray armor for the Destroyers. I believe they collected all of them into a single death star type chapter. In fact, I think I remember reading something about that chapter kicking some Word Bearer butt on Calth.

FSU great work on the destroyers

And iirc the Destroyers chapter was seen as out casts as they were considered dishonorable, but still recognized for their effectiveness, and were mustering at Calth.

And then they went on to raise unholy hell. Turns out demon flesh and spacemarines done respond well to rad munitions

So, Destroyers are finished and I think the color scheme looks great. Also the first 5 seekers, a Rhino, and a Storm Eagle! I am so motivated to paint that thing. I am especially looking forward to using some of my transfers from the Legion sheet.

Destroyers look awesome! I look forward to the completed storm eagle, I've heard a lot of horror story's about putting one together.

Well, so far I can confirm this model is a bit of a beating. I guess it's because of so many flat pieces. They bend easily. Kind of a surprise because tanks have been a breeze. Even the speeder and bikes all fit perfectly.

Those destroyers look fantastic . I always tried to do a grey marine force, but never saw a color that looked good as an accent, I think I'll be stealing your style there in the future.

I adore the storm eagle design but am very reticent to buy one as they do seem like a PITA to build. Glad to hear of your good experiences with the tanks/speeders as I plan to add some heavy support to my Alpha Legion.

Interesting to learn about the grey destroyers too, they look awesome.

I wanted to crawl into a dark hole and cry when I was building my fire raptor. And now I want to build a storm eagle because of the special raven guard one

Destroyers look nice Sir

Great looking destroyers. I love looking at Storm Eagles and Fire Raptors but have only heard horror stories of their assembly.

Those Destroyers are utterly badass, great stuff!

Thanks for all the positive comments everyone. And I appreciate the empathy regarding the Storm Eagle. We may need to form a support group. Good grief, nothing about the wings and engines fit. Anyway, small update with the Seekers. I couldn't find anything to indicate they are any more elite than anyone else, just a specialized mission. All I gave these guys are a touch more gold.

Awesome work, the gold sets them apart nicely without overdoing it.

The Destroyers look amazing. Great work on the Seekers brother!

How do you get your transfer to lay flat on the shoulder pads? Im having issues with my Angels Of Vengeance ones. Thank and do you have any suggestions on how to take away the shine?

Thanks Paradigm. At some point Im gonna go back and give them some pouches and grenades and such. Just for kicks.

Azalle, I cut the transfers closely as I can. I think there is some sort of finish you can buy to take the sheen of the transfers but I havent gotten it yet. So far just been lucky with the pictures.

Testors makes a decal solvent and setting agent. I have them both, but it's been years since I did any transfers.

Quick update. I cut the arms off the 8th Company captain and gave him a couple pistols. Also trimmed off a lot of the crap on the jump pack. So, I give you the Moritat.

Very nice, I like the idea! Though if we are going fluffy he should not have the aquila on his chest and possibly not the crux terminatus

Good catch, I didn't think of that. I'll try to get them off.

Destroyers look brilliant. Really like that grey scheme.

Seekers are very nice too. And the Moritat conversion is pretty sweet.

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Excellent stuff! I've always been a sucker for any armour/weaponry from the heresy. Love the speeders and destroyers

Thanks cheese, always appreciate the kind words.

LancsHotpot, glad you like what you see and thanks for dropping in.

In the meantime, the second Rhino is done. I decided to switch the white and gold trim. Didn't turn out as well as I hoped, but it's ok. Also kept the sizer blades blue, just to look different. But now that I look at it, looks more like I forgot to paint the thing. May change it. Got a few colors on the Moritat so he is coming along too

Yeah. Not feeling the blue dozer blades. I think inverting the gold/white is a nice touch to differentiate them though.

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 evildrcheese wrote:
Yeah. Not feeling the blue dozer blades. I think inverting the gold/white is a nice touch to differentiate them though.

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I’m going to agree to both those points.

I do like the first scheme better, but both it and it’s mirror twin work. And it’s good to be able to tell your rhinos apart.

But the blue dozer blades seem wrong.

Same as above I like the color switch but I am not a huge fan of the dozer blades as they feel almost unfinished.

Thanks for the input guy, ill be painting that doser blade first chance I get. The Moritat is finished and I am hugely disappointed. The model itself is one of the coolest GW has, in my opinion anyway. But he is definately 40k, does not match the 30k world at all. That's one of the things I like about the 30k world, less bling. I mean a regular 40k marine has more what nots and shiny bits hanging off his armor than a Primarch! Anyway, here he is, all ready to kill a bunch of folks.

I agree he still looks 40k. But you did a fine job on him!

Yeah, let's move on from this guy with a couple Deimos Vindicators!

Big Bada-Boom.

Vindis seem like just what the doctor ordered for 30k. Big wads of MEQ in the open? Pie plate time!

Moritat looks sweet Sir.

Ok so I'm switching gears for a while. Gonna just build out the rest of the army. I started with an Apothecary and 30k Command Squad. Only 3 for 30k. Decided to go for the rule of cool, hence the giant chain sword. Which I think is legal.

Cool. You gotta love that Heavy Chainsword!

EDC

Some epic builds, love the Heavy Chainsword (which is indeed a legal build)

Thanks gents. Some more built stuff.

Jeez your storm eagle kit is looking amazing right now. You must of gotten one of the fabled ones that actually fit together

Sadly, no. It's got some big gaps at the rear ramp. Some other pieces didn't fit right so I had to trim them. I'm hoping some liquid green stuff and a splash of paint will make it look good. Speaking of........

It is so annoying that you have to put so much extra work into a kit that is already very expensive to start with. The work you have done thus far is looking very good though, hope the trimming, green stuff and paint gives you the desired results.

Storm Eagle is looking good, excited to see it painted up.

EDC

Thanks Thraxas. I concur with your sentiment. I have a Deimos Predator, surely that will Fit better. This is the first time I've done a Forgeworkd army. Overall I've been pretty pleased with the models.

Speaking of models, I have 5 more guys and the Locutarus strike leader. He's got some Blood Angel bits on him. I'm thinking about adding tabards to them. Also a conversion from the BaC Terminator commander. I'm usually really bad at conversions but I think he worked out ok.

Back to the brush. My kitbashed apothecary is finished. Painting white is an epic beat down, but looks really cool.

That is a fabulous model. Some of the best white I have seen.

Yeah nicely done! I really like that shoulder pad.

Did you do the same trim on his shoulders as the rest of the guys? Looks more brass then gold. But that’s probably the fact that it’s on a white base, rather then blue.

Excellent, clean work there. I’m not looking forward to painting my apothecary. White: so much hate.

Looking good The white looks very clean!

Such a nice white....won't be that way for long if he is a combat medic, but he looks great off the assembly line.

Sweet work there 40K. Gorgeous clean whites. The brass detail work like the knee really set it off though. As an apoth - kinda do want to see that loively white with splashes of shiny fresh warm arterial spray across it - lol. Really great job though

A-poth looks nice Sir.

Well, many kind responses. Let me start by saying hi to comradepanda, it has been a while sir. Welcome back and thanks for dropping in.

Nevelon, yes it's the same trim. You called it, just looks different on the white.

Sgt Oddball, Ustrello, Theophony, Januine, Feindus, thanks for the kind words gents. I do plan to go back and throw some powder in this army to give it a little wear and tear. Maybe some blood splatter could also be arranged.

Speaking of arranging blood splatter, a choppy command squad is finished. I don't know if this squad is actually useful on the table top but it just seems like a necessity for a Legion. Plus I got to use one of those sweet FW banners.

Very nice use of the forgeworld transfer!

Excellent Command Squad and the Apothecary is also awesome! The one thing that's bugging me, though, is the power swords, they just look a little too similar to the armour for me... No need to do anything fancy, but maybe just add some lightning or edge them in white or something?

Very nice command Squad. And now you've inspired me with what to do with these odd leftover 3 Marines I have with my current lot of 30k Death Guard to assemble.

The Apothecary is fantastic!

Them power swords is made of the same armor the dudes wear. I mean its power armor, but that is kinda a stretch for a sword

Maybe paint them metallic and use a blue wash around the hilt to do something different? Might help break up the monochrome of them. But that banner made me happy.

I should have mentioned this earlier. About the power weapons, I am going to do them all at once. I found a GW tutorial on Warhammer TV. Im hoping doing them all at once will give a more uniform look. Plan is the same for the bases. But as always, I appreciate the comments.

Ah, that makes perfect sense! Forgot to mention it before, but the banner is really cool as well!

Ok back on track with the first 5 of a 10 man Tactical Support Squad. They will have the Volkite rifles. The other squad will be plasma.

Very nice so far!

Cool command squad. The banner looks ace.

EDC

Thanks gents. Got those first 5 dudes with the Volkyte Calivers all finished. Those guns look like serious business.

Super stuff! How much more is there still to go in this force?

Man, a ton more. 5 more Volkyte guys, another 5 man Tactical Support Squad, 2 Vindicators, a Predator, the Storm Eagle, 5 Locutarus Storm kit bashes, then Ive got about 20 more marines to decide what to do with. Plus I may turn one of the Terminator squads into a Fulmentarus squad.

After that possibly 2 Drop Pods. For me assembling and painting Pods is like having an all access pass to a carnival of torment, but I think the army needs them. Also maybe another tank or one of those cool Rapier guns. And, of course, if they release one of these sequel games I read about on BOLS and the rumor threads here, Ill get that one too. Just to be thorough.

 40kFSU wrote:
Man, a ton more. 5 more Volkyte guys, another 5 man Tactical Support Squad, 2 Vindicators, a Predator, the Storm Eagle, 5 Locutarus Storm kit bashes, then Ive got about 20 more marines to decide what to do with. Plus I may turn one of the Terminator squads into a Fulmentarus squad.

After that possibly 2 Drop Pods. For me assembling and painting Pods is like having an all access pass to a carnival of torment, but I think the army needs them. Also maybe another tank or one of those cool Rapier guns. And, of course, if they release one of these sequel games I read about on BOLS and the rumor threads here, Ill get that one too. Just to be thorough.

You need a 30th anniversary SM too.

A lot ahead of you fella, but seriouslt stirling job so far. Do love those volkite guns. Nicey nicely blasty blasty!!!

Ooo yeah. Gotta love that Volkyte!

EDC

Well done brother well done.

Hey gents, appreciate the comments. And here are the last 5 and squad shot. Oh, and I was gonna buy the anniversary marine, figured he could be a Consul of something, but just couldn't bring myself to pay $30.

 40kFSU wrote:
Hey gents, appreciate the comments. And here are the last 5 and squad shot. Oh, and I was gonna buy the anniversary marine, figured he could be a Consul of something, but just couldn't bring myself to pay $30.

Yeah I skipped out on the anniversary marine myself as I have spent too much on HH and my dark mechanicus already

The volk squad is looking nice though!

Looks good. AoD and the new psychic cards were enough for me.

Thanks boys. Started the Storm Eagle monster.

Nice I need to gap fill my fire raptor and start practicing with my airbrush so I can actually use it by the time I need to start painting

what color are you going to paint the cockpit?

So I got some bits in today. I'm going to update 5 Terminators to the Fulmentarus versions and got some tabards for the Locutarus squad. I think the tabards make them look a little better. Also converted the Calth chaplain dude to a Librarian.

Haven't decided what to paint the cockpit. I usually do dark gray. We shall see.

Cool idea using the B@C Chaplain as a Libby, it looks cool so far.

EDC

Thanks, cheese. I did an internet search on BaC conversions. There are a lot of really cool ones out there.

Love the librarian. He made the change from the chaplain very well. It’s a great base model to work from, I’ve seen a number great things done from it with just a few head/weapon swaps.

Other guy looks good as well, just not as nice as his friend.

Easy does it on the Storm Eagle painting. Easy and I get along well, we are old friends. I may do the cockpit the same color as the blue what-not on the front.

Looking good. Can't wait to see that beast finished.

I suggest a contrast color or nuetral on the cockpit.

Thanks Six. What color would you suggest Panda?

Quick update.

bwellow its my new color that is a mix of blue and yellow

In all seriousness a dark green could work.

40k I would suggest the following

Red, Orange, Yellow or Green.

That ship is really shaping up. Great work.

Ok, dark green is always a good pick. But what about purple?

And the Storm Eagle is finished. Plenty of times I wanted to throw this thing out the window. But now that it's all finished up, worth it. This thing is freakin sweet. And, of course, those FW transfers make it even sweeter.

I do like the purple actually, when you are done maybe throw some gloss over it as it will make it look a bit more like glass.

Kick arse SE Sir.

That's a awesome looking Storm Eagle.

EDC

Lovely work! Worth the hassle of the build!

That storm eagle is really come together, but that canopy needs some work. The flat purple is a good start, but a highlight or something, and maybe some streaks on it to make a glare would really sell it. At the current color it does a good job of holding place, but is definitely pulling away from the model.

My approach would be to put a dark purple line at the bottom of both the primary bottom glass and at the angled bend. For the sides, just a long the frame is fine. Then I would put a bright pink layer at the top of the glass, just below the top of the frame, and angles. And then gloss it for the full purple visor look.

Do this, but in purple basically is what i am saying.

Storm Raven looks great, the windows are getting better with the purple, i never understood why in the far future there needed to be windows with all the remote sensors and cameras . I think Peturbo's flagship had no windows on it anywhere because they created weak points.

Thanks gents. I appreciate all the positive comments. Panda does have a point. There is some work to be done on that window. In the meantime, no time to rest.......

Wow, you certainly do good work fast. Are you planning on adding any other colors in like painting the blast shield white?

Nice start on that Vindi.

EDC

Fantastic inspiring work all over, loving the volkite squad and the storm eagle is first class, love the purple canopy. The white on your apothecary is outstanding and very crisp. Can't wait for more

Purple canopy is the bomb, and like the others said, good start on the Vindi.

 cormadepanda wrote:
Wow, you certainly do good work fast. Are you planning on adding any other colors in like painting the blast shield white?

I was thinking this as well. Your other vehicles are blue with a few white accents. Wondering where the Vindi’s will be.

Nice work on the flyer.

@ Panda and Nevlon- you guys are right and here it is. I tried to throw a little white on all the vehicles to kind of set them apart. I think the white legion symbols will tie it together nicely.

@Alaricut , Stormwall, Cheese- thanks again guys for dropping by. I really appreciate the kind words and am glad you are enjoying the army.

In the meantime.....

Very nice on the vindicator so far!

Yep, looking good!

Great looking storm eagle!

The vindicator is coming along nicely

beautiful love seeing your machines!

Do you buy your models from forgeworld? Or do you troll Ebay?

The Vindicators and Rhinos I got off eBay already assembled. The Storm Eagle off eBay not assembled. The thing about FW and eBay is you gotta be careful not to end up with some recast. These were lucky finds because they are authentic and already, well built. Thing is, if you find authentic already built and unpainted minis, you are gonna pay more than if you got them from FW. For example, I think a Rhino works out to about $50, I paid about $60 a piece. If I recall correctly. I got the Storm Eagle at market price, I think the guy was fed up with it.
All the other stuff is from FW. Probably overall safer and cheaper that way. Astonishingly.

Also let me throw this out there, I'm looking for a FW Minotaurs transfer sheet. If anyone has one and is willing to sell, let me know.

And the first Vindicator is finished!

Looks good man. Nice job as always.

Good job

Lovely tank. About how far through your project do you think you are at this point?

First, thanks to Guildenstern and LancsHotpot for the compliments.

Six, Ustrello, thank you too as always.

Nevelon, I have all the pieces I need to finish up. I still have maybe 30 marines and a couple tanks. Then I need to build the bases and throw on the weathering powder. I decided not to do battle damage. So I figure about half way. Unless they release more plastic heresy guys before I am done. Then all bets are off!

So the Locutarus Squad is all put together. They are pretty simple, Blood Angels and BaC kit bashes. I think it will do the trick. One of the things I like about the Legions is their armor isn't all covered with what-nots and do-dads. Simple and clean.

So I turned my shooty terminators into really shooty terminators. I went for the white on top instead of the usual gold. I was trying to reserve the white for vehicles only, but the gold didn't look right. Think it worked out well.

Sometimes I forget the sheer amount of dakka you can pile into units in 30k.

Nice looking terminators.

Very nice! I've seen those used in bat reps before and they are sick rule wise.

I always wondered why in 40k you couldn't load up units like this. It would make sense to give your tanks blockbuster weapons, why not your mini walking tanks. Awesome look by the way.

 Theophony wrote:
I always wondered why in 40k you couldn't load up units like this. It would make sense to give your tanks blockbuster weapons, why not your mini walking tanks. Awesome look by the way.

I imagine the reason is resources - the chapters are not what their legions once were.

Loving the look of the new minis, and I agree; the white works well

Those termies are looking awesome fella - really top banana

Nice ternimators

Termies look great, they'll bring some real pain.

EDC

I'll be honest, I despise ultras as they are GW's poster boys.
However, 30k shows them in a different light and makes them stand out through tactics and units.

Painting is solid though and I'll have to keep an eye on this blog.



For those saying about the shooty and hard hitting units, you do pay for them in 30k lol.
Those termies are on par with the tyrant siege terminators for points but stand out alot more because of the colours.

Although, I'm just jealous of cyclone termies as I don't get them :p

Thanks guys. I'm glad everyone seems to like them. On a side note, I'm beginning to seriously doubt the genius of this Gulliman person. Not only did he cut the legions into ridiculously small forces, but also basically disarmed them. Why do away with these guys and support squads and all that again? Oh well. Just a little nerd rage I guess.

In the meantime, transition from shooty marines to choppy marines. Locutarus Storm Squad is all done. I think they worked out pretty well. I couldn't find any examples or art of these guys to follow so I just went with the most elaborate power weapons I could find. Blood angels of course.

And Jackal, I agree. In 10,000 years Ultras went from hard nose Roman Legion marines to dork marines.

All good stuff, shooty and choppy guys are looking great!

That Assualt Squad looks great.

Models look great. Particularly like the finish on those assault guys shoulders. Care to share your recipe?

Damn those are looking good fsu!

The gold shoulder pads are especially good, the Termies look devastating as well. Any army shots due as you have quite the UM collection already.

Good looking figures, nicely finished. Loving the weathered gold effect

 40kFSU wrote:


And Jackal, I agree. In 10,000 years Ultras went from hard nose Roman Legion marines to dork marines.

SMURFs

How did you do the gold shoulder pads? they look epic!

Another slew of kind comments! Thanks guys, I'm grateful so many of you are enjoying the thread. As for the gold, it's Iron Breaker followed by a liberal wash of Badab Black, Agrax Earthshade, and finally Seraphim Sephia. Not sure how I came across the color, it just kinda happened.

As advertised, the second Diemos Vindicator.

The Sang Guard hits look great with the B@C bits.

EDC

Agreeing with EDC - those sang guard pieces work really well! Those shoulder pads look incredible too. I'll have to try that out some time

Thanks gents. I'm glad the Blood Angel bits are well received. Sometimes it's hard for me to really appreciate a kit bash because I'm used to certain pieces belonging to certain armies. Like I said, glad y'all like them. In the meantime, 1st veteran tacticals are almost done. Used the gold squad markings to set them apart a little. They look nice but I don't have enough for a second squad. So I will have to cook up something else, possibly white shoulder pads.

Oh, and the dudes without arms are gonna both have missile launchers.

That gold is still killa on those tacs. Looking good!

Nice progress on the Vets. Double ML is the way to go!

EDC

The Vindi on the last page is superb, and the Vet squad looks great too!

This blog is awesome. I'm so jealous of all the resin!

I was a little surprised to see the same white accent on both vindis. You mixed things up on the rhinos, was expecting the same here.

But I guess in 30k, they are not individual relics, storied veterans of countless battles, lovingly restored after each deployment. They are probably just two brother tanks, fresh from the forge world and part of the same squadron.

Everything is looking great. Keep up the good work!

Thanks gents, the end is near for this one. Only have a tank and about 17 more guys to paint. Speaking of the tank..

Nevlon- yeah I decided to paint them identically with the Predator in mind. I'm going to paint the turret white. Thinking the 3 together will look cooler, let the predator stand out. It totally makes sense in my head.

Now for the first Veteran Tactical Squad......

Nice looking vets squad Sir.

Excellent work on the vets.

EDC

Thanks guys finished the Siege Breaker conversion. Complete with a comparison shot with the Praetor.

Blonde hair and the base make me think he's going surfing . Great job with this army, nice an cohesive, plus it's all at a high standard.

I really love your colors: your blue, your white on the apothecary , the gold on your special squad's shoulder...
Nice stuff in this blog !

Good work making those two models so notably different! The Siege Breaker looks great! Any particular reason he's on the long base?

Thanks guys. And you know what Theo, it does look like he is surfing.

He's just on a long base because I didnt put him on a proper round one. Im gonna removed all these guys and build the bases anyway so I figured its no harm. He will end up on a 40mm one.

Very cool!!

Thanks Guildenstern. How about some Librarian action? Not sure how useful he is in 30k, but he makes a tidy conversion.

That's an awesome conversion of the librarian. Great work.

Siege Breaker looks cool too, nice idea putting the shield bling on the belt rather than on the shoulderpad. Wish I had done that with mine.

EDC

Thanks Cheese. Got some plasma guys here. I think I'll do the coils in an orange color. That should look suitably hot and stand out. Don't think there is any orange anywhere else in the army. So all I got left infantry wise is the last Veteran Tactical Squad. Think I will equip them with meltas.

So there she is. Truly a gem. Just look, absorb the resiny awesomeness, and enjoy.

Always had a soft spot for the Deimos Preds. Arguably a better design on the lascannon sponsons than the plastic version! Loving your plasma gun toting marines

Yeah, definitely a lovely tank design. Look forward to seeing it painted up.

Angel, I totally agree with your take on the sponsons. The 40k version looks like it could be clipped off by a rather inovative Tankbusta with a pocket knife.

Speaking of Tankbustas, A little more painting WIP for Warboss Dakka.

Making the turret white kinda limited the transfers I could put on it. But overall I think the look will be cool with the Vindicators. I'm hoping. I'm also hoping to have this army wrapped up in the next 2 weeks. So, back to it!

And with some extra free time.......all done!

Love the look of the 30k armor there.

Gotta say I didn't like the white dome on it by itself, but in the group shot it really makes it more cohesive to the army . That's probably where I keep messing up with my marines is I try to make each one look good (like a model warrior), but then as a whole they look disjointed.

Cracking armoured detachment there, the kind of firepower no one is going to mess with!

Very nice work on that pred. Makes me really regret selling my RT spoon-top.

 40kFSU wrote:
And with some extra free time.......all done!

Nice formation Sir.

Nice set of tanks there.

One question on the Predator - you've painted the muzzle-bit on the turret lascannon in white, but not the sponson ones - a touch more of your spot colour might be a good idea, without it being part of the main hull?