I'd like to start a feed to find out if anyone else has caught on but with the release of TS came the Blue paint pot with thier name.

In the latest GW catalogue xmas thing you see in ur local storethis time of year I was made aware of a paint that has not been released before and isnt on shelves - Death guard Green

Can anyone shed light onto the possibility of this GW easter egg well xmas egg?

Ohhh....Thats an interesting tidbit. Will check and see if I can find that tomorrow.

Apparently someone posted earlier that the paint was pulled and is no longer scheduled for an X-Mas release?

 rollawaythestone wrote:
Apparently someone posted earlier that the paint was pulled and is no longer scheduled for an X-Mas release?

Link?

 rollawaythestone wrote:
Apparently someone posted earlier that the paint was pulled and is no longer scheduled for an X-Mas release?

Whoops

Sounds like someone might have done something they shouldn't have.

The infamous Hastings posted a rumour that a plague army is coming next year so this seems likely.

Chikout wrote:
The infamous Hastings posted a rumour that a plague army is coming next year so this seems likely.

Jesus, what are we gonna do if its Death Guard?

Wasnt there an artist or sculptor that also mentioned he was working on something plaguey?

Neronoxx wrote:

 rollawaythestone wrote:
Apparently someone posted earlier that the paint was pulled and is no longer scheduled for an X-Mas release?

Link?

It was posted somewhere in that mess of a Magnus/Traitor Legions thread. I don't have the patience to go sift through.

Neronoxx wrote:

Chikout wrote:
The infamous Hastings posted a rumour that a plague army is coming next year so this seems likely.

Jesus, what are we gonna do if its Death Guard?

Coax my wallet down out of the tree once it stops crying.

In relation to the Cannoness model maybe we could look forward to some models for death guard from Mr Blaches work? There was a comment on fb in regards to him being approached by the inquisimunda group to do a ks of his art in 3d model work.
He obviously couldnt do this due to GW owning his work but he replied with something along those lines and finished with - "dont worry there is something in the works".
Take this as you will but I have a feeling the canoness is just the beggining.

Well, if I were GW, I would have redone a lot of the regular CSM range, namely the basic Chaos Space Marine kit, and released the five Chaos Undivided Legions as upgrade sprues. I would have done the four chaos devoted legions after that.

Oh well, perhaps we will see new Noise Marines after this.

Well, if true, my Siege of Terra Death Guard force might be starting next year.

Agreed. Focus needs to move to slanesh the neglected of the gods

Hastings' quotes are in Pretre's tracker thread. To sum it up

- 40k plague army
- Mortarion was mentioned amongst the five Primarch Hastings is looking forward to (aka going to be released)
- he didnt say Marines for a reason

Take a look into the original posts, it is not much yet but Hastings is a very good source and his hints are valid.

I dont think it will be Death Guard only (based on what he said so far), if DG at all. Could also be Hruds or Lost and the Damned.

OMG

I can build awesome DG with Blightking bits and bigger legs I sculpted, but a real kit? Even if it's a year late for my DG Kill Team that'd be awesome. I might even manage a small army if every model doesn't take 10 hours or more


And with Tzaangors we might even get plague zombies. A zombie kit, potentially a mix of the great human dollies of the GSC and Blightking/Nurgle Lord gribblyness? Oh my. Or an AOS zombie kit with upgrade sprue (which they should sell seperately) for 40k. Both would be fine. Gigantic bloated Cult Termis? Shut up and take my money.

I'll be honest, though, ANYTHING CSM that isn't Dinobots or a terribly expensive clampack like Khârn will open my wallet. Even my least favourite stuff, the Rubric Marines, are tempting me to get a box and Ahriman.


EDIT: Well, I'd gladly take plague LatD or plague Skaven (in spaaaace) instead/as well. Big mutant kit or those Nurgle astronaut possessed or new anything? Sure!

Here is the sake in case this thread doesn't get locked

It would be great to see some new Death Guard. The old finecast set is looking really tired.

I'm interested to see what the 2017 release schedule is like. I can't imagine the Death Guard will arrive any time soon though. It doesn't seem practical to release a new Daemon Primarch every month.

Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

Aw sick that green looks like a better fit for my Ta'uanr scheme than the death world forest one I have. Hopefully it comes out soon so I can swap since i haven't started painting yet.

Yay! Long time DG fan, was already going back to them when I saw the Traitor Legions book was on it's way, really hyped to see if there are new plastic kits now. Considering how good the blight kings turned out, I have high (with some trepidation) hopes for this! If it actually happens, that is. For all we know it might just be a paint and little else...

This is the release that brings me back into 40k if it turns out to be true

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit. Perhaps they will, which would be cool. A zombies kit instead of Tzaangors would be cool. A new, plastic, Typhus would be in order as well. Don't know what other kits they would really need.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit. Perhaps they will, which would be cool. A zombies kit instead of Tzaangors would be cool. A new, plastic, Typhus would be in order as well. Don't know what other kits they would really need.

Termies would make a lot of sense though; DG used them extensively during the Heresy and they fit DG's slow-moving, implacable play style. A 40k version of Deathshroud or Grave Wardens would be really nifty.

I think that they should do that, so that everyone has something of 'parity' for the 4 main:


Thousand Sons
Ahriman
3 Sorcerers
5 Rubric Terminators
10 Rubrics Marines
10 Tzaangors

World Eaters
Kharn
3 Marines on Juggers
5 Berzerker Terminators
10 Berzerkers (with a new kit - a man can dream!!!)
5 Berzerker Assault Marines (let WE have their Jump Packs!)

Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

Death Guard
Typhus
[Not sure what the equivalent to the 3 Sorc box would be for them]
5 Plague Terminators
10 Plague Marines
10 Plague Zombies

It would be fantastic, and of course Chaos would get plastic Havocs, a combined plastic Oblit/Mutilator kit, and a new plastic 10-man Chaos Marine box. Maybe even a 5-man Chosen box if people want it. And a plastic PA Lord, and Sorc Lord, Dark Apostle and Warpsmith.

(/wishlisting into oblivion)

Morty won't want Sorcerers so some cool beasts of nurgle maybe.

God I usually hate wishlisting threads but I really hope this happens

Oh, yes, and it goes without saying you'd get all four - Magnus, Angryman, Scytheboy and Silverhair.

So if it's going to be anything like the Thousand Sons release, here's what I expect:

Mortarion, huge centrepiece model.
Death Guard Space Marine squad.
Death Guard Terminator squad (possibly based on the Cataphractii armour? Since the Thousand Sons were based on the Tartaros suits, just wild speculation)
Plague zombies/guardsmen/cultists, whatever might be equivalent to the Tzaangors of the Thousand Sons release.

As I'm searching for equivalents to the Thousand Sons release, those all match up. The one I'm not sure about is the exalted sorcerers. An equivalent box for Death Guard could just be a command set or something, which is a little boring and could be covered by the other sets. Maybe it'd be swapped for just a Typhus clamshell or something, but then that would be the straight swap for Ahriman of the release. So I'm not sure! But the four sets above are about the bare minimum I'd expect now after the Thousand Sons release.

SPECULATION ENDS. WISHLISTING BELOW.

What I'd reeeeaaaally love to see, however, is an equivalent clamshell to the Nurgle Champion from a few years back. Such a great, easily convertible figure. In actual fact, I wouldn't begrudge GW at all for taking that figure and simply adding a bolter and chaos backpack to it. It'd be a nice throwback to the days of adding sci fi elements to the fantasy and vice versa.

("Hey boss, I took those elf wardancers and started adding eldar weapons to them and masks and stuff. I quite like them."
"Genius! Let's release them and call them Harlequins!")

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh, yes, and it goes without saying you'd get all four - Magnus, Angryman, Scytheboy and Silverhair.

Man I hope so. I know the new Thousand Sons release has been really well received in the community, but I hope that it was financially successful too. That should make a good case to releases new stuff for the remaining 3 chaos factions/gods/groups.

I did, however, read a rumour somewhere (I believe it was from Sad Panda) saying that GW didn't have any plans for symmetrical releases for Nurgle, Slaanesh or Khorne. I'll see if I can dig the quote out...

EDIT: Found it! This is the pretre quoting Sad Panda in this thread:

PENDING 40k Rumors - Oct 2016
No. I only know of one other not-FW primarch in the pipeline. He'll be "Team Imperium" and part of setting up the story for 8th.

There may be more I simply haven't heard about, but as with Daemonkin, I can assure you that there is no plan to go through the four Chaos Gods with symmetrical releases. That's not how the 40K story evolution for the next year or so (from the tiny bits I know) is set up.

A hrud codex would be an exciting new take and a good oportunity to try a new style of play albiet a very unique one.

An aura that can age you 50 years in a short time would change the playing field for deathstars and other combats.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

I get the feeling there will be a fair few power scythes with this release if Death Guard are coming in plastic. Grave Warden/Death Shroud Nurgle terminators too perhaps?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

Sort of, but yes. However, let's not pretend that GW gives Chaos the same level of attention as the Loyalists. Like I said, I wouldn't expect it, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. If they did that, and released upgrade sprues for the other remaining Legions, that would be awesome. But Chaos really needs a new basic kit before they do that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

Agreed, but I'd like to see a skip of the moaning that the rules are the same except for the addition of manreapers and poisoned shooting weapons that are costed appropriately.

Assuming the same scale release as Thousand Sons, that could mean Mortarian, Typhus, 10 man Plague Marine box with say a manreaper option for the sergeant and some poison ranged weapons (maybe blight grenade launchers of some sort?), Plague Terimnators that maybe can built as either shooty/power weapon or 2 handed manreaper, and 10 man plague zombies that can be used in AoS and have an upgrade sprue for 40K, and 1-2 paints. That leaves an analogue for the Exalted Sorcerers. Maybe they could cover the missing Nurgle kit and give a plastic Beasts 3 pack?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

Sort of, but yes. However, let's not pretend that GW gives Chaos the same level of attention as the Loyalists. Like I said, I wouldn't expect it, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. If they did that, and released upgrade sprues for the other remaining Legions, that would be awesome. But Chaos really needs a new basic kit before they do that.

Upgrade sprues are a good shout, but yeah, we need a basic kit. It's a shame it's taken this long. GW have proven that they can create some really cool modern Chaosy stuff with the Chaos Chosen from Dark Vengeance and the newish Raptors/Warp Talons. Man the waiting game is tough!

I think Mortarion is past caring about psykers. Would be nice to see some Nurgly themed sorcerer covens.

Also- there's a reason chaos players wait so long for new stuff. They're literal Veterans of the Long War

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Assuming the same scale release as Thousand Sons, that could mean Mortarian, Typhus, 10 man Plague Marine box with say a manreaper option for the sergeant and some poison ranged weapons (maybe blight grenade launchers of some sort?), Plague Terimnators that maybe can built as either shooty/power weapon or 2 handed manreaper, and 10 man plague zombies that can be used in AoS and have an upgrade sprue for 40K, and 1-2 paints. That leaves an analogue for the Exalted Sorcerers. Maybe they could cover the missing Nurgle kit and give a plastic Beasts 3 pack?

There's nothing to say that GW couldn't just invent an Exalted Sorcerer analogue, something that's the equivalent to a detailed kit with 3-ish models (I mean my list had a few for the other Chaos Gods), but Beasts? I don't see it. It's a Chaos Daemons release through and through, and should be kept that way.

That said, GW should do a new Chaos Daemons release as well, specifically 3 Fiends, 5 Hounds, 1-3 Beasts (small box ala the Shokk Attack Gun if it's 1). And then clampack Heralds of Khorne, Slaanesh and Tzeentch. And if they must have a big model, then a Nurgle Palanquin.

They don't even need to invent a Exalted Sorcerer analogue. That box is really just a 40k equivalent of the General + Standard Bearer type boxes from WHFB, but in the case of Tzeentch they also had to re-introduce Lord-level psykers that were deleted from the Codex previously. For DG they could just do a dude on foot and dude on palanquin or beast, with lord and psyker bitz.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They don't even need to invent a Exalted Sorcerer analogue. That box is really just a 40k equivalent of the General + Standard Bearer type boxes from WHFB, but in the case of Tzeentch they also had to re-introduce Lord-level psykers that were deleted from the Codex previously. For DG they could just do a dude on foot and dude on palanquin or beast, with lord and psyker bitz.

I really hope every army gets a 3 kit treatment. But i think with DG,EC,KB/WE we will be lucky if, and that is a big IF, we get one.

IF the Armless Failure Kit ( Abbadon) is any good I could see BL terminators / chosen pop up. Chaos though need a new kit for their Tactical Equivalent.

S.Y.

With the new rules for DG bikers, I could see three of those being included in a kit to make up for the lack of a psyker-equivalent...or even a new Nurgle Demon Prince. Either way, pretty excited to see what we get.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

^ This.

I'm tired of the excuse of 'I don't know if there's enough demand for power armour to warrant seperate chaos books or legions to get X/Y kits.'

I'm sorry, in the time we've had 1 Chaos Marine Codex, 1 Legion supplement and 1 Renegade supplement Imperials have had....

SM, DA, BA, SW, GK, DW
Supplements for Iron Hands, Imperial Fists and Space Wolves.
Supplement rules/digital splash rules for Raven Guard, White Scars and more Blood Angel stuff.

We've had 1 Terminator squad between CSM that cannot even make a complete generic armed squad.
You have the equivalent of 6.

We don't even have a kit for our Chosen.
You've got at least 2 Veteran kits.

We've still got resin hybrid Havocs.

You've had 2 lots of plastic Devastators as well as reboxed Chapter specific ones.

Don't give CSM that old chestnut about 'no demand for PA' or whether it fething warrants it. I think your 6 boxes of Terminators takes the bloody biscuit there.

I can't quite recall at the moment but I thought this was out, or mentioned in maybe WD or warhammer-community post. Either way, yay!

If this is happening, I'm praying for a quick Slaanesh release too. I would love a Fulgrim model, and I'd probably buy a full Slaanesh marine force with him. My wallet would suffer.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

^ This.

I'm tired of the excuse of 'I don't know if there's enough demand for power armour to warrant seperate chaos books or legions to get X/Y kits.'

I'm sorry, in the time we've had 1 Chaos Marine Codex, 1 Legion supplement and 1 Renegade supplement Imperials have had....

SM, DA, BA, SW, GK, DW
Supplements for Iron Hands, Imperial Fists and Space Wolves.
Supplement rules/digital splash rules for Raven Guard, White Scars and more Blood Angel stuff.

We've had 1 Terminator squad between CSM that cannot even make a complete generic armed squad.
You have the equivalent of 6.

We don't even have a kit for our Chosen.
You've got at least 2 Veteran kits.

We've still got resin hybrid Havocs.

You've had 2 lots of plastic Devastators as well as reboxed Chapter specific ones.

Don't give CSM that old chestnut about 'no demand for PA' or whether it fething warrants it. I think your 6 boxes of Terminators takes the bloody biscuit there.

That's what happens when your side LOSES. should have stayed loyal and you'd get more love.

Oh, if this happens, I will make it reign on some a new Nurgle force.

Zombies probably make the most sense, but damn am I sick of them generally. Fingers crossed for plastic Pestigors instead!

 eohall wrote:
Zombies probably make the most sense, but damn am I sick of them generally. Fingers crossed for plastic Pestigors instead!

As much as I like Beastmen, I'd rather a proper Plague Zombie box.

Plus it allows them to re-do Zombies for fantasy (that kit needs an upgrade) and they can include a "40K sprue" lik they have with the Tzaangors. Two birds, one stone (but the price of 4 stones for us Aussies).

Sounds like wishlisting, but i'd be good with new zombies or pestigors. Both would have a lot of conversion potential (i'd use em for blood bowl). They don't have to be as generic as the zombies in the past. Imagine nurgle plague zombies, maggots to put on the bases, nurglings as a bonus on the sprue, nurgle themed standard etc. The last time nurgle got a release it was great. Nurgle models haven't disappointed me ever.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Plus it allows them to re-do Zombies for fantasy (that kit needs an upgrade) and they can include a "40K sprue" lik they have with the Tzaangors. Two birds, one stone (but the price of 4 stones for us Aussies).

40k/AoS zombie dual box would be very disappointing to me as they would be yet more fantasy minis with guns. I want 40k zombies to be zombies of 40k people, not random peasants. Mantic had the right idea here, their sci-fi zombies are zombie miners, lab techs and soldiers.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

This would be so awesome.

My poor wallet with get ouchies

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

He totally enjoys it. Plus daemons do not exactly die.

S.Y.

Can't wait for new DG, Mortarion + Typhus + Plague Marines + Plague Terminators = me buying a 40k army in one purchase.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

Naught but a flesh wound. A little cocaine warp dust and he'll be as good as new.

If they re-do Typhus that would be cool. He'd have swarms of plague flies flying out of those stacks on his armour a la Sylvaneth Hamadreth.

All I am waiting for is plastic Nurgle models and I will jump all in to Chaos. The rules in Traitor Legions are great, but the model range is still outdated so I am holding off.

But if it was Daemon Primarch Mortarion and extras...

I really wonder how much untapped money GW is sleeping on by not pushing out a new Berzerkers kit and finally plastic Plague Marines and Noise Marines. I really, REALLY doubt that CSM are selling *that* bad when they get something every few years (and never what they want, of course, but DINOS).

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

You know what that would mean though? Headless Doomrider, possibly with a stream of fire jutting from his neck cavity. That would be amazing...

 Binabik15 wrote:
I really wonder how much untapped money GW is sleeping on by not pushing out a new Berzerkers kit and finally plastic Plague Marines and Noise Marines. I really, REALLY doubt that CSM are selling *that* bad when they get something every few years (and never what they want, of course, but DINOS).

At this point, GW is better served doing these CSM waves every 5-6 months or so so they don't oversaturate Chaos. New book comes out with all the cool Tzeentch stuff, people will buy the tzeentch stuff. If they came out with Tzeentch, Death Guard, Berzerkers all at once, the sales would be split up among the factions.

Well as long as we are hoping,
Can we get some Word Bearer specific stuff?
After all with out Lorgar and the Bearers, we wouldn't have any of this...

I'm a Word Bearer fan, but the Cults need/deserve the attention far more.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
I really wonder how much untapped money GW is sleeping on by not pushing out a new Berzerkers kit and finally plastic Plague Marines and Noise Marines. I really, REALLY doubt that CSM are selling *that* bad when they get something every few years (and never what they want, of course, but DINOS).

At this point, GW is better served doing these CSM waves every 5-6 months or so so they don't oversaturate Chaos. New book comes out with all the cool Tzeentch stuff, people will buy the tzeentch stuff. If they came out with Tzeentch, Death Guard, Berzerkers all at once, the sales would be split up among the factions.

Yes, of course. I'm talking about a hypothetical situation where Chaos as a product line has all those kits that should've ideally come out years, heck, almost decades ago. From Berzerkers as one of the first multi-part plastic boxes of that era to...no new cult marines. I'd be more than oky with ix months between releases, heck, I'd be ECSTATIC from such a pace. They had years and multiple codex revisions to throw out cult boxes and thoroughly redone CSM and Termis, but nooo.

Now they finally do Rubrics (my least favourites ) and some indies can't get anough stock? At least a bits site sent an update stating that GW can't service them yet due to demand. If only they did such a thing as market research and realise how many people are passivly interested in Chaos.

PS: I'm realising right now that we have plastic CUSTODES and SoS before multi-part Chosen/Cultist/PM/NM kits. If you told me that 2002 I certainly wouldn't have believed you.

PPS: I'm a Word Bearers fan myself, though not really the super fleshed out HH stuff. And IMO Chaos zealots with flamers and demon friends don't really need special minis when the stock CSM would just look the part.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I think that they should do that, so that everyone has something of 'parity' for the 4 main:


Thousand Sons
Ahriman
3 Sorcerers
5 Rubric Terminators
10 Rubrics Marines
10 Tzaangors

World Eaters
Kharn
3 Marines on Juggers
5 Berzerker Terminators
10 Berzerkers (with a new kit - a man can dream!!!)
5 Berzerker Assault Marines (let WE have their Jump Packs!)

Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

Death Guard
Typhus
[Not sure what the equivalent to the 3 Sorc box would be for them]
5 Plague Terminators
10 Plague Marines
10 Plague Zombies

It would be fantastic, and of course Chaos would get plastic Havocs, a combined plastic Oblit/Mutilator kit, and a new plastic 10-man Chaos Marine box. Maybe even a 5-man Chosen box if people want it. And a plastic PA Lord, and Sorc Lord, Dark Apostle and Warpsmith.

(/wishlisting into oblivion)

Give DG plastic plague drones!

And this list is very logical and totally feasible given the TS release.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

World Eaters
Kharn
3 Marines on Juggers
5 Berzerker Terminators
10 Berzerkers (with a new kit - a man can dream!!!)
5 Berzerker Assault Marines (let WE have their Jump Packs!)

If this were to actually happen my wallet would up and commit suicide....

 Battlesong wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

World Eaters
Kharn
3 Marines on Juggers
5 Berzerker Terminators
10 Berzerkers (with a new kit - a man can dream!!!)
5 Berzerker Assault Marines (let WE have their Jump Packs!)

If this were to actually happen my wallet would up and commit suicide....

HAHAHA, if a quarter of the wishlist/rumors for CSM kits were true, my wallet will do the same. I am sitting on $600 store credit across 3 different stores, and my wallet is still in for some pain if tis true!

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

Agreed, but I'd like to see a skip of the moaning that the rules are the same except for the addition of manreapers and poisoned shooting weapons that are costed appropriately.

Assuming the same scale release as Thousand Sons, that could mean Mortarian, Typhus, 10 man Plague Marine box with say a manreaper option for the sergeant and some poison ranged weapons (maybe blight grenade launchers of some sort?), Plague Terimnators that maybe can built as either shooty/power weapon or 2 handed manreaper, and 10 man plague zombies that can be used in AoS and have an upgrade sprue for 40K, and 1-2 paints. That leaves an analogue for the Exalted Sorcerers. Maybe they could cover the missing Nurgle kit and give a plastic Beasts 3 pack?

A dual terminator lit with scythe and ranges variants already covers the exalted sorcerers. Scarab Occult Termies didn't have an alternate build.
Besides, just because Thousand Sons got 5 new kits doesn't mean Death Guard should too...

123ply wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

Agreed, but I'd like to see a skip of the moaning that the rules are the same except for the addition of manreapers and poisoned shooting weapons that are costed appropriately.

Assuming the same scale release as Thousand Sons, that could mean Mortarian, Typhus, 10 man Plague Marine box with say a manreaper option for the sergeant and some poison ranged weapons (maybe blight grenade launchers of some sort?), Plague Terimnators that maybe can built as either shooty/power weapon or 2 handed manreaper, and 10 man plague zombies that can be used in AoS and have an upgrade sprue for 40K, and 1-2 paints. That leaves an analogue for the Exalted Sorcerers. Maybe they could cover the missing Nurgle kit and give a plastic Beasts 3 pack?

A dual terminator lit with scythe and ranges variants already covers the exalted sorcerers. Scarab Occult Termies didn't have an alternate build.
Besides, just because Thousand Sons got 5 new kits doesn't mean Death Guard should too...

True, at least six kits are due, to show that mangy chicken who's boss

 Binabik15 wrote:

123ply wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

Agreed, but I'd like to see a skip of the moaning that the rules are the same except for the addition of manreapers and poisoned shooting weapons that are costed appropriately.

Assuming the same scale release as Thousand Sons, that could mean Mortarian, Typhus, 10 man Plague Marine box with say a manreaper option for the sergeant and some poison ranged weapons (maybe blight grenade launchers of some sort?), Plague Terimnators that maybe can built as either shooty/power weapon or 2 handed manreaper, and 10 man plague zombies that can be used in AoS and have an upgrade sprue for 40K, and 1-2 paints. That leaves an analogue for the Exalted Sorcerers. Maybe they could cover the missing Nurgle kit and give a plastic Beasts 3 pack?

A dual terminator lit with scythe and ranges variants already covers the exalted sorcerers. Scarab Occult Termies didn't have an alternate build.
Besides, just because Thousand Sons got 5 new kits doesn't mean Death Guard should too...

True, at least six kits are due, to show that mangy chicken who's boss

er - 7 kits (remember their number is 7).

 bubber wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:

123ply wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

Agreed, but I'd like to see a skip of the moaning that the rules are the same except for the addition of manreapers and poisoned shooting weapons that are costed appropriately.

Assuming the same scale release as Thousand Sons, that could mean Mortarian, Typhus, 10 man Plague Marine box with say a manreaper option for the sergeant and some poison ranged weapons (maybe blight grenade launchers of some sort?), Plague Terimnators that maybe can built as either shooty/power weapon or 2 handed manreaper, and 10 man plague zombies that can be used in AoS and have an upgrade sprue for 40K, and 1-2 paints. That leaves an analogue for the Exalted Sorcerers. Maybe they could cover the missing Nurgle kit and give a plastic Beasts 3 pack?

A dual terminator lit with scythe and ranges variants already covers the exalted sorcerers. Scarab Occult Termies didn't have an alternate build.
Besides, just because Thousand Sons got 5 new kits doesn't mean Death Guard should too...

True, at least six kits are due, to show that mangy chicken who's boss

er - 7 kits (remember their number is 7).

Your seventh kit is a bucket of green stuff.

 bubber wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:

123ply wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

Agreed, but I'd like to see a skip of the moaning that the rules are the same except for the addition of manreapers and poisoned shooting weapons that are costed appropriately.

Assuming the same scale release as Thousand Sons, that could mean Mortarian, Typhus, 10 man Plague Marine box with say a manreaper option for the sergeant and some poison ranged weapons (maybe blight grenade launchers of some sort?), Plague Terimnators that maybe can built as either shooty/power weapon or 2 handed manreaper, and 10 man plague zombies that can be used in AoS and have an upgrade sprue for 40K, and 1-2 paints. That leaves an analogue for the Exalted Sorcerers. Maybe they could cover the missing Nurgle kit and give a plastic Beasts 3 pack?

A dual terminator lit with scythe and ranges variants already covers the exalted sorcerers. Scarab Occult Termies didn't have an alternate build.
Besides, just because Thousand Sons got 5 new kits doesn't mean Death Guard should too...

True, at least six kits are due, to show that mangy chicken who's boss

er - 7 kits (remember their number is 7).

Seven is a bigger number than five But Nurgle releases are a time to be jolly, not greedy, so six would be fine with me. As long as it's more than Tzeentch gets!

For real now, if Nurgle gets another kit of BK or Nurgling quality the whole hobby scene would be better off. Look at the Lord of Plagues and the BKs and their usage in all kinds of Inquisimunda or showcase minis.

 nudibranch wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

You know what that would mean though? Headless Doomrider, possibly with a stream of fire jutting from his neck cavity. That would be amazing...

The headless rider searching for his missing head is pretty classic.

Wow! If the Nurgle Marines are truly in the works, that makes me very happy! I've always loved my plague ridden pals, whether in 40k or Warhammer Fantasy.

I would hope we'd finally be getting a second kit of plastic plague marines (It's been over 20 YEARS!!)

I would love nurgle terminators as well, especially if they had new 'nurgley' weapons. Scythes, poisoned shooting, Some sort of Slime/rot launcher!

Obviously, lets get a nice big mortarion kit.

I know the plague zombies are a big part of nurgle's armies, but I'd also love some new pestigors.

A new version of Typhus would be cool, but I'd almost like to see a new hero more. They never did a kit for the nurgle Greater demon character (was he the one called 'Papa Ga'ap'?), so that would be nice as a GUO dual kit.

A new palanquin plague marine character would make sense also.


I have a feeling we'll also get some sort of extra large bloated plague marine type troops, something like 40k blight kings. After seeing that the nurgle warriors for the new bloodbowl nurgle team will resemble the blight kings, and the huge love for the plastic Fantasy nurgle lord, I think these 'larger bloated troops' will become a mainstay for anything Nurgley. I imagine them like Plague centurions, 3 to a box, 60mm bases, tons of options.

It seems like good timing that you could have 40k, AoS, and Bloodbowl nurgle releases all happening at the same time.

Here's to hoping its a Nurgle Daemonkin book, so all 4 gods get their own books

I know the plague zombies are a big part of nurgle's armies, but I'd also love some new pestigors.

Is it though? Considering the only true Plague Zombies came with Typhus and his big plague rather then death guard as a whole.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
I really wonder how much untapped money GW is sleeping on by not pushing out a new Berzerkers kit and finally plastic Plague Marines and Noise Marines. I really, REALLY doubt that CSM are selling *that* bad when they get something every few years (and never what they want, of course, but DINOS).

At this point, GW is better served doing these CSM waves every 5-6 months or so so they don't oversaturate Chaos. New book comes out with all the cool Tzeentch stuff, people will buy the tzeentch stuff. If they came out with Tzeentch, Death Guard, Berzerkers all at once, the sales would be split up among the factions.

Yeah but considering all the 3rd party bits manufactures out there, someone has what everyone that is being neglected wants. And thats money that GW is surrendering to their compitition. Unless they want to promote 3rd party additions to their kits to sell the kit because someone wanted to use those bits so that GW didnt need to put its own funding into developing it but that is really not their style. I am not satisfied with the the current CSM range but I have seen a few 3rd party products I am very interested in some 3rd party stuff. If GW doesnt give people what they want someone else will and make a fortune while they are at it.

Damn, and me working on Nurgle marines right now...




Well, I guess I will end them (still need some green stuff) and try dont buy the nurgle terminators once GW release them.....

Rosebuddy wrote:

 nudibranch wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

You know what that would mean though? Headless Doomrider, possibly with a stream of fire jutting from his neck cavity. That would be amazing...

The headless rider searching for his missing head is pretty classic.

Doom Rider Taking people's heads to replace his missing head? Kinda a Slaanesh Experience vampire thing going on like with Lucius so could work.

Franarok wrote:

Well, I guess I will end them (still need some green stuff) and try dont buy the nurgle terminators once GW release them.....

I doubt any plastic kit will be half as good as those beauties

 Slinky wrote:

Franarok wrote:

Well, I guess I will end them (still need some green stuff) and try dont buy the nurgle terminators once GW release them.....

I doubt any plastic kit will be half as good as those beauties

oh, thanks!!! But are more or less pretty simple ones haha.

But the GW last models are insanely cool, so sure will do impressive nurgle stuff. Just need check the tsons new stuff, omg

Did anyone else catch the Pestigor name drop in the Pandemic Staff war gear description?

Could be a clue for the upcoming release eh?

Franarok wrote:
Damn, and me working on Nurgle marines right now...

Well, I guess I will end them (still need some green stuff) and try dont buy the nurgle terminators once GW release them.....

Seeing as 1ks lost all their options in the book, youre probably screwed with the weapons you molded :(
Awesome work, i'd buy those

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

We've had 1 Terminator squad between CSM that cannot even make a complete generic armed squad.
You have the equivalent of 6.
We don't even have a kit for our Chosen.
You've got at least 2 Veteran kits.
We've still got resin hybrid Havocs.
You've had 2 lots of plastic Devastators as well as reboxed Chapter specific ones.
Don't give CSM that old chestnut about 'no demand for PA' or whether it fething warrants it. I think your 6 boxes of Terminators takes the bloody biscuit there.

Not trolling here, but I see pretty much every loyalist kit as filled with parts for various CSM (amongst many other things). Things have only gotten better with the historical armour boxed sets.

 Azazelx wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

We've had 1 Terminator squad between CSM that cannot even make a complete generic armed squad.
You have the equivalent of 6.
We don't even have a kit for our Chosen.
You've got at least 2 Veteran kits.
We've still got resin hybrid Havocs.
You've had 2 lots of plastic Devastators as well as reboxed Chapter specific ones.
Don't give CSM that old chestnut about 'no demand for PA' or whether it fething warrants it. I think your 6 boxes of Terminators takes the bloody biscuit there.

Not trolling here, but I see pretty much every loyalist kit as filled with parts for various CSM (amongst many other things). Things have only gotten better with the historical armour boxed sets.

It's a fair point, however, kit-bashing is a bit of a pain and fairly uneconomical too.

 Azazelx wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

We've had 1 Terminator squad between CSM that cannot even make a complete generic armed squad.
You have the equivalent of 6.
We don't even have a kit for our Chosen.
You've got at least 2 Veteran kits.
We've still got resin hybrid Havocs.
You've had 2 lots of plastic Devastators as well as reboxed Chapter specific ones.
Don't give CSM that old chestnut about 'no demand for PA' or whether it fething warrants it. I think your 6 boxes of Terminators takes the bloody biscuit there.

Not trolling here, but I see pretty much every loyalist kit as filled with parts for various CSM (amongst many other things). Things have only gotten better with the historical armour boxed sets.

Ok then. How many kits do we need to buy to make the following?

5 Chaos Terminators with normal Combi-Bolters and Power Weapons. No upgrades.

If you buy multiple boxes you have to keep going til all your Chaos Terminators are armed so. Eventually it'll even out, right?

Can we be done arguing about who gets abused the most.

Please?

 kronk wrote:
Can we be done arguing about who gets abused the most.

Please?

It's obviously Black Templars anyway.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

^ This.

I'm tired of the excuse of 'I don't know if there's enough demand for power armour to warrant seperate chaos books or legions to get X/Y kits.'

I'm sorry, in the time we've had 1 Chaos Marine Codex, 1 Legion supplement and 1 Renegade supplement Imperials have had....

SM, DA, BA, SW, GK, DW
Supplements for Iron Hands, Imperial Fists and Space Wolves.
Supplement rules/digital splash rules for Raven Guard, White Scars and more Blood Angel stuff.

We've had 1 Terminator squad between CSM that cannot even make a complete generic armed squad.
You have the equivalent of 6.

We don't even have a kit for our Chosen.
You've got at least 2 Veteran kits.

We've still got resin hybrid Havocs.

You've had 2 lots of plastic Devastators as well as reboxed Chapter specific ones.

Don't give CSM that old chestnut about 'no demand for PA' or whether it fething warrants it. I think your 6 boxes of Terminators takes the bloody biscuit there.

Actually, now it's two terminator boxes. and you did get two different version of possessed, so that's an analog of veterans.

it's a terrible analogue then, considering their complete lack of options vs. veterans of either stripe.

I love how I said I wouldn't expect a PA and TDA kit for every Chaos God and people read it as "CHAOS IS DUMB AND SHOULDN'T HAVE KITS! LOYALISTS RULE, LOL!!!!". This forum has turned into, as Kid_Kyoto says, a dumpster fire. Just loaded to the brim with whiney little bitches that are never happy.

 cuda1179 wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

^ This.

I'm tired of the excuse of 'I don't know if there's enough demand for power armour to warrant seperate chaos books or legions to get X/Y kits.'

I'm sorry, in the time we've had 1 Chaos Marine Codex, 1 Legion supplement and 1 Renegade supplement Imperials have had....

SM, DA, BA, SW, GK, DW
Supplements for Iron Hands, Imperial Fists and Space Wolves.
Supplement rules/digital splash rules for Raven Guard, White Scars and more Blood Angel stuff.

We've had 1 Terminator squad between CSM that cannot even make a complete generic armed squad.
You have the equivalent of 6.

We don't even have a kit for our Chosen.
You've got at least 2 Veteran kits.

We've still got resin hybrid Havocs.

You've had 2 lots of plastic Devastators as well as reboxed Chapter specific ones.

Don't give CSM that old chestnut about 'no demand for PA' or whether it fething warrants it. I think your 6 boxes of Terminators takes the bloody biscuit there.

Actually, now it's two terminator boxes. and you did get two different version of possessed, so that's an analog of veterans.

First -as mentioned by gigasnail - Possessed are not our Veteran equivalent - they have no options as opposed to Veterans with their multiple options.

And if you want to compare our 'two versions' of Possessed to Veterans.

Let's go.

We've had... the metal Possessed released with Cities of Death and the plastic Possessed released with the 5th edition Codex.

Imperial SMs have had....

Metal Veterans with 4th edition, variant metal Veterans with Cities of Death, metal Sternguard and Vanguard with 5th ed codex, a resin hybrid Sternguard conversion kit and then plastic Sternguard and Vanguard for 7th.

So by YOUR own comparison.

2 versions of Possessed.
7 versions of Veterans - not including Dark Angels Veterans or SW Wolf Guard.

Hardly 'equal'.

hey, I'm not saying that Chaos hasn't been neglected, I play them too you know. I'm just saying it hasn't been all bad. We did get two Dinobot combo box, Helbrute, heldrake, Lord of Skulls, Kharn, Arhiman, Bloodthirster, Daemon prince (and variant nurgle resin one), cultists, and plastic daemons all in resent history. That's not even counting the Plastic veterans in the Dark Vengeance starter. Yeah, I know that "plastic daemons" stuff really isn't Chaos marines, but most people here consider them one line split between multiple codex's .

An upgrade to the basic Chaos marines, a Chaos havoc upgrade sprue, and a veterans upgrade sprue would pretty much be all we'd need to make things "pretty good".


Almost forgot the Chaos versions of Fortifications.

you might have almost forgot them because there aren't any chaos versions of fortifications, only some really skully AoS stuff, which you could totally use as a bastion, but doesn't have the correct facings for the guns it comes with.

Honestly I do think the basic chaos marines need an update. The current look was good for its time, but they are showing their age now. The most important thing IMO is adding in chaosified versions of the heresy armor types into the kit. I did like how the chaos marines looked in the space marine video game from a few years back. A bit more intimidating and less like generic spikey marines.

I was able to pass up on the thousand sons release because i'm too tied up in other things. But anything Nurgle is golden, I just love how twisted and nasty they can be. Unlike khorne and tzeentch...nurgle kits tend to come with more characterful additions.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Actually, now it's two terminator boxes.

Well hooray for us. Meanwhile Dark Angels and Blood Angels, to ostensibly Codex Chapters, have their own Tactical Squad kits and upgrade sprues.

Forgive me if my 14 year old Havoc models want a bit of an update.

 cuda1179 wrote:
and you did get two different version of possessed, so that's an analog of veterans.

Since when? You're not talking about the 5 metal Possessed models? These abominations:

Maybe is he talking about the HH possessed?

And not just mention the amount of stuff loyalist have, but the differecne between veterans and possessed on the table is impressive


Chaos veterans are the chosen. And the chosen are just EXPENSIVE standar marines with 2 attacks and no special rules: no teleport, no pod, no special ammo for bolters, no ignore cover, no infiltration.....nothing special at all.
In addittion we only have the monopose miniatures, so you cant choose their equip unless conversions. And the models with guns only carry bolters haha.