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I get the feeling there will be a fair few power scythes with this release if Death Guard are coming in plastic. Grave Warden/Death Shroud Nurgle terminators too perhaps?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

Sort of, but yes. However, let's not pretend that GW gives Chaos the same level of attention as the Loyalists. Like I said, I wouldn't expect it, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. If they did that, and released upgrade sprues for the other remaining Legions, that would be awesome. But Chaos really needs a new basic kit before they do that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well ok, but we want plastic Plague Marines/Terminators.

Agreed, but I'd like to see a skip of the moaning that the rules are the same except for the addition of manreapers and poisoned shooting weapons that are costed appropriately.

Assuming the same scale release as Thousand Sons, that could mean Mortarian, Typhus, 10 man Plague Marine box with say a manreaper option for the sergeant and some poison ranged weapons (maybe blight grenade launchers of some sort?), Plague Terimnators that maybe can built as either shooty/power weapon or 2 handed manreaper, and 10 man plague zombies that can be used in AoS and have an upgrade sprue for 40K, and 1-2 paints. That leaves an analogue for the Exalted Sorcerers. Maybe they could cover the missing Nurgle kit and give a plastic Beasts 3 pack?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

Sort of, but yes. However, let's not pretend that GW gives Chaos the same level of attention as the Loyalists. Like I said, I wouldn't expect it, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. If they did that, and released upgrade sprues for the other remaining Legions, that would be awesome. But Chaos really needs a new basic kit before they do that.

Upgrade sprues are a good shout, but yeah, we need a basic kit. It's a shame it's taken this long. GW have proven that they can create some really cool modern Chaosy stuff with the Chaos Chosen from Dark Vengeance and the newish Raptors/Warp Talons. Man the waiting game is tough!

I think Mortarion is past caring about psykers. Would be nice to see some Nurgly themed sorcerer covens.

Also- there's a reason chaos players wait so long for new stuff. They're literal Veterans of the Long War

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Assuming the same scale release as Thousand Sons, that could mean Mortarian, Typhus, 10 man Plague Marine box with say a manreaper option for the sergeant and some poison ranged weapons (maybe blight grenade launchers of some sort?), Plague Terimnators that maybe can built as either shooty/power weapon or 2 handed manreaper, and 10 man plague zombies that can be used in AoS and have an upgrade sprue for 40K, and 1-2 paints. That leaves an analogue for the Exalted Sorcerers. Maybe they could cover the missing Nurgle kit and give a plastic Beasts 3 pack?

There's nothing to say that GW couldn't just invent an Exalted Sorcerer analogue, something that's the equivalent to a detailed kit with 3-ish models (I mean my list had a few for the other Chaos Gods), but Beasts? I don't see it. It's a Chaos Daemons release through and through, and should be kept that way.

That said, GW should do a new Chaos Daemons release as well, specifically 3 Fiends, 5 Hounds, 1-3 Beasts (small box ala the Shokk Attack Gun if it's 1). And then clampack Heralds of Khorne, Slaanesh and Tzeentch. And if they must have a big model, then a Nurgle Palanquin.

They don't even need to invent a Exalted Sorcerer analogue. That box is really just a 40k equivalent of the General + Standard Bearer type boxes from WHFB, but in the case of Tzeentch they also had to re-introduce Lord-level psykers that were deleted from the Codex previously. For DG they could just do a dude on foot and dude on palanquin or beast, with lord and psyker bitz.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They don't even need to invent a Exalted Sorcerer analogue. That box is really just a 40k equivalent of the General + Standard Bearer type boxes from WHFB, but in the case of Tzeentch they also had to re-introduce Lord-level psykers that were deleted from the Codex previously. For DG they could just do a dude on foot and dude on palanquin or beast, with lord and psyker bitz.

I really hope every army gets a 3 kit treatment. But i think with DG,EC,KB/WE we will be lucky if, and that is a big IF, we get one.

IF the Armless Failure Kit ( Abbadon) is any good I could see BL terminators / chosen pop up. Chaos though need a new kit for their Tactical Equivalent.

S.Y.

With the new rules for DG bikers, I could see three of those being included in a kit to make up for the lack of a psyker-equivalent...or even a new Nurgle Demon Prince. Either way, pretty excited to see what we get.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

^ This.

I'm tired of the excuse of 'I don't know if there's enough demand for power armour to warrant seperate chaos books or legions to get X/Y kits.'

I'm sorry, in the time we've had 1 Chaos Marine Codex, 1 Legion supplement and 1 Renegade supplement Imperials have had....

SM, DA, BA, SW, GK, DW
Supplements for Iron Hands, Imperial Fists and Space Wolves.
Supplement rules/digital splash rules for Raven Guard, White Scars and more Blood Angel stuff.

We've had 1 Terminator squad between CSM that cannot even make a complete generic armed squad.
You have the equivalent of 6.

We don't even have a kit for our Chosen.
You've got at least 2 Veteran kits.

We've still got resin hybrid Havocs.

You've had 2 lots of plastic Devastators as well as reboxed Chapter specific ones.

Don't give CSM that old chestnut about 'no demand for PA' or whether it fething warrants it. I think your 6 boxes of Terminators takes the bloody biscuit there.

I can't quite recall at the moment but I thought this was out, or mentioned in maybe WD or warhammer-community post. Either way, yay!

If this is happening, I'm praying for a quick Slaanesh release too. I would love a Fulgrim model, and I'd probably buy a full Slaanesh marine force with him. My wallet would suffer.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I don't know if I would expect every one of the Chaos gods to get a PA kit and a Terminator kit.

It's what each loyalist chapter with a codex gets at minimum.

^ This.

I'm tired of the excuse of 'I don't know if there's enough demand for power armour to warrant seperate chaos books or legions to get X/Y kits.'

I'm sorry, in the time we've had 1 Chaos Marine Codex, 1 Legion supplement and 1 Renegade supplement Imperials have had....

SM, DA, BA, SW, GK, DW
Supplements for Iron Hands, Imperial Fists and Space Wolves.
Supplement rules/digital splash rules for Raven Guard, White Scars and more Blood Angel stuff.

We've had 1 Terminator squad between CSM that cannot even make a complete generic armed squad.
You have the equivalent of 6.

We don't even have a kit for our Chosen.
You've got at least 2 Veteran kits.

We've still got resin hybrid Havocs.

You've had 2 lots of plastic Devastators as well as reboxed Chapter specific ones.

Don't give CSM that old chestnut about 'no demand for PA' or whether it fething warrants it. I think your 6 boxes of Terminators takes the bloody biscuit there.

That's what happens when your side LOSES. should have stayed loyal and you'd get more love.

Oh, if this happens, I will make it reign on some a new Nurgle force.

Zombies probably make the most sense, but damn am I sick of them generally. Fingers crossed for plastic Pestigors instead!

 eohall wrote:
Zombies probably make the most sense, but damn am I sick of them generally. Fingers crossed for plastic Pestigors instead!

As much as I like Beastmen, I'd rather a proper Plague Zombie box.

Plus it allows them to re-do Zombies for fantasy (that kit needs an upgrade) and they can include a "40K sprue" lik they have with the Tzaangors. Two birds, one stone (but the price of 4 stones for us Aussies).

Sounds like wishlisting, but i'd be good with new zombies or pestigors. Both would have a lot of conversion potential (i'd use em for blood bowl). They don't have to be as generic as the zombies in the past. Imagine nurgle plague zombies, maggots to put on the bases, nurglings as a bonus on the sprue, nurgle themed standard etc. The last time nurgle got a release it was great. Nurgle models haven't disappointed me ever.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Plus it allows them to re-do Zombies for fantasy (that kit needs an upgrade) and they can include a "40K sprue" lik they have with the Tzaangors. Two birds, one stone (but the price of 4 stones for us Aussies).

40k/AoS zombie dual box would be very disappointing to me as they would be yet more fantasy minis with guns. I want 40k zombies to be zombies of 40k people, not random peasants. Mantic had the right idea here, their sci-fi zombies are zombie miners, lab techs and soldiers.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

This would be so awesome.

My poor wallet with get ouchies

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

He totally enjoys it. Plus daemons do not exactly die.

S.Y.

Can't wait for new DG, Mortarion + Typhus + Plague Marines + Plague Terminators = me buying a 40k army in one purchase.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

Naught but a flesh wound. A little cocaine warp dust and he'll be as good as new.

If they re-do Typhus that would be cool. He'd have swarms of plague flies flying out of those stacks on his armour a la Sylvaneth Hamadreth.

All I am waiting for is plastic Nurgle models and I will jump all in to Chaos. The rules in Traitor Legions are great, but the model range is still outdated so I am holding off.

But if it was Daemon Primarch Mortarion and extras...

I really wonder how much untapped money GW is sleeping on by not pushing out a new Berzerkers kit and finally plastic Plague Marines and Noise Marines. I really, REALLY doubt that CSM are selling *that* bad when they get something every few years (and never what they want, of course, but DINOS).

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Emperor's Children
Lucius the Eternally Useless
3 Sonic Bikers (one in the kit can be built as DOOMRIDER!)
5 Noise Marine Terminators (options for big glaives/spears ala corrupted Phoenix Guard)
10 Noise Marines
Sonic the Hedge Hog Helbrute/Daemon Engine of some kind.

While Doomrider would be pretty awesome, I should point out that Kor'sarro Khan pulled his head off, and mounted it on a lodge pole back on Chogoris (dipped in blessed silver). He may not come back at all.

Source: Master of the Hunt

You know what that would mean though? Headless Doomrider, possibly with a stream of fire jutting from his neck cavity. That would be amazing...

 Binabik15 wrote:
I really wonder how much untapped money GW is sleeping on by not pushing out a new Berzerkers kit and finally plastic Plague Marines and Noise Marines. I really, REALLY doubt that CSM are selling *that* bad when they get something every few years (and never what they want, of course, but DINOS).

At this point, GW is better served doing these CSM waves every 5-6 months or so so they don't oversaturate Chaos. New book comes out with all the cool Tzeentch stuff, people will buy the tzeentch stuff. If they came out with Tzeentch, Death Guard, Berzerkers all at once, the sales would be split up among the factions.

Well as long as we are hoping,
Can we get some Word Bearer specific stuff?
After all with out Lorgar and the Bearers, we wouldn't have any of this...