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hey, I'm not saying that Chaos hasn't been neglected, I play them too you know. I'm just saying it hasn't been all bad. We did get two Dinobot combo box, Helbrute, heldrake, Lord of Skulls, Kharn, Arhiman, Bloodthirster, Daemon prince (and variant nurgle resin one), cultists, and plastic daemons all in resent history. That's not even counting the Plastic veterans in the Dark Vengeance starter. Yeah, I know that "plastic daemons" stuff really isn't Chaos marines, but most people here consider them one line split between multiple codex's .

An upgrade to the basic Chaos marines, a Chaos havoc upgrade sprue, and a veterans upgrade sprue would pretty much be all we'd need to make things "pretty good".


Almost forgot the Chaos versions of Fortifications.

you might have almost forgot them because there aren't any chaos versions of fortifications, only some really skully AoS stuff, which you could totally use as a bastion, but doesn't have the correct facings for the guns it comes with.

Honestly I do think the basic chaos marines need an update. The current look was good for its time, but they are showing their age now. The most important thing IMO is adding in chaosified versions of the heresy armor types into the kit. I did like how the chaos marines looked in the space marine video game from a few years back. A bit more intimidating and less like generic spikey marines.

I was able to pass up on the thousand sons release because i'm too tied up in other things. But anything Nurgle is golden, I just love how twisted and nasty they can be. Unlike khorne and tzeentch...nurgle kits tend to come with more characterful additions.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Actually, now it's two terminator boxes.

Well hooray for us. Meanwhile Dark Angels and Blood Angels, to ostensibly Codex Chapters, have their own Tactical Squad kits and upgrade sprues.

Forgive me if my 14 year old Havoc models want a bit of an update.

 cuda1179 wrote:
and you did get two different version of possessed, so that's an analog of veterans.

Since when? You're not talking about the 5 metal Possessed models? These abominations:

Maybe is he talking about the HH possessed?

And not just mention the amount of stuff loyalist have, but the differecne between veterans and possessed on the table is impressive


Chaos veterans are the chosen. And the chosen are just EXPENSIVE standar marines with 2 attacks and no special rules: no teleport, no pod, no special ammo for bolters, no ignore cover, no infiltration.....nothing special at all.
In addittion we only have the monopose miniatures, so you cant choose their equip unless conversions. And the models with guns only carry bolters haha.