Well dont see this posted here so Found this pic on facebook ...

not much to see but what do you think ?

new demon Mortarion looks nice from what I can see (nurgle cherubim :O )

Hard to say anything based on those tiny pictures. But it sure looks like some kind of Mortarion Nurgel model. Would not be surprised if it really is an upcoming GW version, but even less surprised if it was a fake.

But if it is real, man GW will be pissed

wow
Where do you see?

Please be real, do it for Papa Nurgle

I don't recall Mort ever having wings....

 Nicorex wrote:
I don't recall Mort ever having wings....

As a deamon he has

https://1d4chan.org/images/thumb/9/9f/Mortarion,_Prince_of_Decay.jpg/200px-Mortarion,_Prince_of_Decay.jpg

 Nicorex wrote:
I don't recall Mort ever having wings....

His epic model did

Either it`s some small company feeding of GW IP

or someone will get fired

Looks good, whatever I can make out of the pics that is.

It could just be a model made by another company. Although, I've never seen those wings before and it appears to have all of the swirly magic/cloth detail that GW likes adding to their flying characters/creatures. So it might be legit.

Is that supposed to be a normal CSM standing next to him? Or something smaller? He looks kind of tiny.

Don't thinkt it's from GW. Seems to be traditionnally sculpted (pics 2 and 3), not digitally sculpted

 streetsamurai wrote:
Don't thinkt it's from GW. Seems to be traditionnally sculpted (pics 2 and 3), not digitally sculpted

number 2 and 3 are parts painted separately. 1 is the model paint. 4 is model in 3D. the others are the plastic model without paint.

Also, picture 4 looks to contain a herald looking model, at least from what I hope.

Well there was a leaked death guard paint a little while ago, so i'm assuming at some point this year there is going to be a nurgle release of some kind.

This does look interesting though, it's just a shame the images are so small. Can't blow em up without losing all the detail.

 Thargrim wrote:
Well there was a leaked death guard paint a little while ago, so i'm assuming at some point this year there is going to be a nurgle release of some kind.

This does look interesting though, it's just a shame the images are so small. Can't blow em up without losing all the detail.

Now that the pics are out, if they are real, GW may do another dumpster diver video.

leaked death guard?? tell me more (ie show it to me, lol)

Lady Atia already confirmed Morty was coming a while ago

I thought there were only 2 Primarchs supposed to be released? One Chaos and one Imperium. Wouldn't this make it 2 Chaos? I could be wrong, not even sure I know who or what Mortarion is. I am guessing he is a Deamon Primarch of some sort.

I would love it to be the Mortarion model, but it is most likely not as the pic's origin is a russian community page

See

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330303-next-daemon-primarch/page-5

Mortarion is the deamon primarch of the death guard. There was never any confirmation the number of primarchs.

 andysonic1 wrote:
Mortarion is the deamon primarch of the death guard. There was never any confirmation the number of primarchs.

Right. Wrath of Magnus did mention a few primarchs in total but I've seen nothing legit about numbers/limits of primarchs in 40K, myself. I would love a Mortarion DP model.

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1220

check comments

And it's just the beginning

Imagine how awesome Mortarion will be

Oh man, or this is just sheer coincidence or Lady Atia is a diabolical mastermind.

Even if these are fakes they are good fakes.

Lord Kragan wrote:
And it's just the beginning

Imagine how awesome Mortarion will be

Oh man, or this is just sheer coincidence or Lady Atia is a diabolical mastermind.

We know from reliable sources about a plastic Mortarion for 40k, Hastings has rumored such a model as well. The photo though looks like a Stormcast or Magnus conversion. Next should be a loyal Primarch anyway, according to Sad Panda.

 Gamgee wrote:
Even if these are fakes they are good fakes.

It fits with the general theme. Nurgle based Silver Tower sequel, Typhon was prominent in the Cadian system during the 13th Crusade so the timing makes sense for that, too, given the material just released. It's better than even odds we're looking at Death Guard for the next HH box set.

I started a general "guess the next HH box" thread in the Discussions forum but no one posited any of the Death Guard battles. I wonder which would be the best, assuming there's no repeat of loyalist chapters?

Yeah they did align the release schedules for Tzeentch across both systems (silver tower, WoM, Tzaangors in both games etc) and the silver tower sequel has as Breotan says got Nurgle protagonists / antagonists on the cover art.

With Atia basically saying "Mortarion is coming at some point too", it's possible these are real pics.

But even if they aren't real, it seems clear that there will be at least some Nurgle releases coming in the short to medium term (makes sense considering they did a Khorne push, then Tzeentch, and we're yet to know what they'll do to reboot Slaanesh... so Nurgle's the more likely one to come next).

I see conversion potential. Especially the way the wings are posed. Reminds me of the stormcast exalted guy with ghal maraz

Is that Scythe exactly identical to the FW one he's carrying? If so it could just be a super well done piece of conversion work.

I don't like it. I want a big guy in a robe.

NivlacSupreme wrote:
I don't like it. I want a big guy in a robe.

For a more "human-scaled" Mortarion, with wings, scythe, robe and all, Hi-Tech already released their Mortimer quite a while ago.

That'd be the leakiest leak in quite a while, wouldn't it? What'd come close in recent memory? So I'm not buying it so far. I agree that it might be a conversion or self-sculpt, it DOES look a lot like a Sigmarine Optimus Prime.

I'll take anything mortal Nurgle, though, there'a no bad plastic set by GW so far in that line and 4.5 out of 5 great ones (the maggoths are nice, but not nearly as well done as their riders and the rest). Marauders, plague zombies, Plague Marines, Cult Termis, Pestigors, characters, release it (stop with the price increases), I'll buy and convert and never paint it!

If this guy is coming then it is definitely time for a plastic Great Unclean One.

 Binabik15 wrote:
That'd be the leakiest leak in quite a while, wouldn't it? What'd come close in recent memory? So I'm not buying it so far. I agree that it might be a conversion or self-sculpt, it DOES look a lot like a Sigmarine Optimus Prime.

I'll take anything mortal Nurgle, though, there'a no bad plastic set by GW so far in that line and 4.5 out of 5 great ones (the maggoths are nice, but not nearly as well done as their riders and the rest). Marauders, plague zombies, Plague Marines, Cult Termis, Pestigors, characters, release it (stop with the price increases), I'll buy and convert and never paint it!

Well not saying its the real deal but if it was a convertion some would find the original by now and show better photos ..And one of the pics looks to be a 3D design of the modell (pic 4)

I think its the real deal ..and if not then its a 3rd party russian stand in model (but then again it would not be called Mortarion )

Doesn't look like a conversion to me.... and his scythe would be similar to the HH version because it's "his" weapon

Gonna guess not GW because it's not a normal leak format, plus that plasticard sheet used as an amateur backdrop. GW has light boxes.

If this truly is Mortarion does that mean this weeks rumour from GW is Caldor Draigo? Didn't he carve his name onto Mortys heart?

Warhams-77 wrote:
I would love it to be the Mortarion model, but it is most likely not as the pic's origin is a russian community page

See

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330303-next-daemon-primarch/page-5

It's the best argument i've seen for a while.

You'd be surprised that GW employs (as in this case) russian artists.
Moreover - a fair amount of leaks are indeed came from artists as they recive a complete model references.
Especialy a freelance ones (and that is not just russia - it's all over the globe)
If GW would employ a freelance Game-designers we would get some rule details.

The only difference in this case is that artist posted information stright away passing conventional rumor-aggrgators as Atia/Natfka etc.
Although still a dumb move if you ask me.

Bloodmaster wrote:

But if it is real, man GW will be pissed

No, they won't. They will simply sue the living cr*ap out of the person responsible for it. There's a reason companies sign CDA's with their affiliates.

 Omega-soul wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
I would love it to be the Mortarion model, but it is most likely not as the pic's origin is a russian community page

See

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330303-next-daemon-primarch/page-5

It's the best argument i've seen for a while.

You'd be surprised that GW employs (as in this case) russian artists.
Moreover - a fair amount of leaks are indeed came from artists as they recive a complete model references.
Especialy a freelance ones (and that is not just russia - it's all over the globe)
If GW would employ a freelance Game-designers we would get some rule details.

The only difference in this case is that artist posted information stright away passing conventional rumor-aggrgators as Atia/Natfka etc.
Although still a dumb move if you ask me.

Ok I see, thank you for explaining the way of the leaked photos, this makes sense.

 streetsamurai wrote:
leaked death guard?? tell me more (ie show it to me, lol)

There was a photo of a paints list a month or two back that listed a "Death Guard Green"

T

 Claimh_Solais wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
That'd be the leakiest leak in quite a while, wouldn't it? What'd come close in recent memory? So I'm not buying it so far. I agree that it might be a conversion or self-sculpt, it DOES look a lot like a Sigmarine Optimus Prime.

I'll take anything mortal Nurgle, though, there'a no bad plastic set by GW so far in that line and 4.5 out of 5 great ones (the maggoths are nice, but not nearly as well done as their riders and the rest). Marauders, plague zombies, Plague Marines, Cult Termis, Pestigors, characters, release it (stop with the price increases), I'll buy and convert and never paint it!

Well not saying its the real deal but if it was a convertion some would find the original by now and show better photos ..And one of the pics looks to be a 3D design of the modell (pic 4)

I think its the real deal ..and if not then its a 3rd party russian stand in model (but then again it would not be called Mortarion )

With Photoshop one never knows. And if it's a hoax/marketing the original might not be posted on purpose.


I can live with or without Mortarion, as long as we get his buddies, which seem to be coming for sure. But not soon enough. Nurgle now! Not Nurgle November.

GW might stop employing the guy if he did leak it, but I doubt they'd waste their time trying to sue someone in Russia...

Why are leaks always so small and rubbish pictures ?

Looks like a piece of conversion work, those look a lot like Plague Drone wings. Overall, looking at Magnus, GW would do a much better job at creating such an iconic character.

It looks great- to me it looks like his "wings" are formed from his tattered robe/cloak billowing out behind him. I can't imagine he is due any time soon 3-4 months at best? Hastings mentioned a plague army coming, I'd guess Mortarion is on his way, wether this is the model??

Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:There's a reason companies sign CDA's with their affiliates.

What is a CDA? I herd of Non Disclosure Agreements but not a CDA. Is that different from what it is in Canada?

Honestly, Davor, you're using a device that's connected to the sum total of all human knowledge..

https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB692GB692&hl=en-GB&ei=qESOWNORFISvgAbErpGgAw&q=cda+agreement&oq=cda+a&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.1.0i67k1l2j0i20k1j0i67k1l2.6662.7040.0.8505.3.3.0.0.0.0.179.308.0j2.2.0....0...1c..64.mobile-gws-serp..1.2.307...0j0i131k1.j5z6SfvX6dM

 Azreal13 wrote:
Honestly, Davor, you're using a device that's connected to the sum total of all human knowledge..

https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB692GB692&hl=en-GB&ei=qESOWNORFISvgAbErpGgAw&q=cda+agreement&oq=cda+a&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.1.0i67k1l2j0i20k1j0i67k1l2.6662.7040.0.8505.3.3.0.0.0.0.179.308.0j2.2.0....0...1c..64.mobile-gws-serp..1.2.307...0j0i131k1.j5z6SfvX6dM

and we generally use those devices to get in shouting matches and look at pictures of cats.

ergo, it may not have been the first thing on his mind.

Azreal13 wrote:Honestly, Davor, you're using a device that's connected to the sum total of all human knowledge..

https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C9BKJA_enGB692GB692&hl=en-GB&ei=qESOWNORFISvgAbErpGgAw&q=cda+agreement&oq=cda+a&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.1.0i67k1l2j0i20k1j0i67k1l2.6662.7040.0.8505.3.3.0.0.0.0.179.308.0j2.2.0....0...1c..64.mobile-gws-serp..1.2.307...0j0i131k1.j5z6SfvX6dM

It could have also been something totally different as well. Just look at all the short forms people use and they make no sense to me. A lot of times people are saying ML and I think Missile Launchers and it makes no sense in the conversation. So no, Google wouldn't help so that is why I asked. We have way to many short forms meaning different things now.

*edit*

GW. Funny Google doesn't show me that as "great weapon". So again. Google wouldn't have helped me if the person ment something else. That is why I don't rely on Google when it comes to short forms in names when they can have many meanings.

But thank you again for trying to make me look foolish again.

If you can't infer from context that "CDA" and "NDA" must be similar then you don't need my help.

But, of course, you did infer from context they were similar, hence the phrasing of your question, you just CBA to go on google and find out for yourself.

Wait... the GW remembers that Mortarion exists??

 Shieldwolf Miniatures wrote:

Bloodmaster wrote:

But if it is real, man GW will be pissed

No, they won't. They will simply sue the living cr*ap out of the person responsible for it. There's a reason companies sign CDA's with their affiliates.

If he is in fact in Russia, at the very most, he will lose the job and not get any more work from them.

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Looks like a piece of conversion work, those look a lot like Plague Drone wings. Overall, looking at Magnus, GW would do a much better job at creating such an iconic character.

They certainly look nothing like plague drone wings.
Looking at the very small pic of the separate legs and puzzle them together with the other very small pics, I think this model probably look really cool and angel of death like, as is proper.
However, comparing it to magnus it looks like its much smaller than the gigantic(cyclopean) magnus -good! Lets hope they keep him that size and dont scale it up like they did with magnus.

Scale him up? You remember how big the Epic version would have been 'in scale' right?

 Fayric wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Looks like a piece of conversion work, those look a lot like Plague Drone wings. Overall, looking at Magnus, GW would do a much better job at creating such an iconic character.

They certainly look nothing like plague drone wings.
Looking at the very small pic of the separate legs and puzzle them together with the other very small pics, I think this model probably look really cool and angel of death like, as is proper.
However, comparing it to magnus it looks like its much smaller than the gigantic(cyclopean) magnus -good! Lets hope they keep him that size and dont scale it up like they did with magnus.

Can't Magnus change size at will? I imagine he wanted to be pretty big to go crush some puppies.

 andysonic1 wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Looks like a piece of conversion work, those look a lot like Plague Drone wings. Overall, looking at Magnus, GW would do a much better job at creating such an iconic character.

They certainly look nothing like plague drone wings.
Looking at the very small pic of the separate legs and puzzle them together with the other very small pics, I think this model probably look really cool and angel of death like, as is proper.
However, comparing it to magnus it looks like its much smaller than the gigantic(cyclopean) magnus -good! Lets hope they keep him that size and dont scale it up like they did with magnus.

Can't Magnus change size at will? I imagine he wanted to be pretty big to go crush some puppies.

Eh, no. No matter how skilled you are at magnetising or trick painting, you cant make the model any size you want. Im pretty sure plastic dont shrink in laundry either.

@Johnnyhell: I was not refering to the epic model, I was refering to the much smaller Magnus GW had made for some open day or something(?) but then decided to scale up in their fancy computer before releasing to the public.

 Fayric wrote:

@Johnnyhell: I was not refering to the epic model, I was refering to the much smaller Magnus GW had made for some open day or something(?) but then decided to scale up in their fancy computer before releasing to the public.

Piece for painters to try colour schemes. Seems smaller version was done later

 Fayric wrote:

 andysonic1 wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Looks like a piece of conversion work, those look a lot like Plague Drone wings. Overall, looking at Magnus, GW would do a much better job at creating such an iconic character.

They certainly look nothing like plague drone wings.
Looking at the very small pic of the separate legs and puzzle them together with the other very small pics, I think this model probably look really cool and angel of death like, as is proper.
However, comparing it to magnus it looks like its much smaller than the gigantic(cyclopean) magnus -good! Lets hope they keep him that size and dont scale it up like they did with magnus.

Can't Magnus change size at will? I imagine he wanted to be pretty big to go crush some puppies.

Eh, no. No matter how skilled you are at magnetising or trick painting, you cant make the model any size you want. Im pretty sure plastic dont shrink in laundry either.

Magnus, the character the model is made after, can change size at will through magic. The model was made alongside the assault on the Space Wolves, and there's art of Magnus that large compared to other units. So they didn't "scale him up" really, that's just how big he is. Morti never really got huge after his transformation to a Deamon so it makes sense for him to be smaller than Magnus if it is real. I Imagine Magnus will be the largest Deamon Primarch due to him being able to make himself that large.

I just read Traitor's Hate and this scythe-wielding guy is not taking part in the storyline



Do we know who he is?

Hastings has reaffirmed today on Disqus that the release of Mortarion and his Plague army is well underway

https://disqus.com/by/75hastings69/

New Ork buggies, too

Primarch's returning; okay. Imperium re-energised, okay. Cadia falling, okay. Beil-Tan fracturing, okay.

But, I just really can't get enthused about new Super Marines. My Marine army has been a labour of love over a lot of years. Hopefully all that endeavour isn't about be invalidated overnight...

Maybe wrong thread... Go Mortarion! Nothing to see here.

I was looking forward to Mortarion, but the other news has soured it a bit.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Hastings has reaffirmed today on Disqus that the release of Mortarion and his Plague army is well underway

https://disqus.com/by/75hastings69/

New Ork buggies, too

Apologies but is this Hastings fellow reliable? Haven't heard of him until now.

Anyway, assuming that it's true, I can barely wait to see what the new Mortarion looks like. Hopefully he's either not monopole or at least posed better than Gillyman was.

He's not a rumormonger, he's the rumourmonger, probably about the most venerable and consistent one we've got. Doesn't post as much these days as he was largely interested in WHFB and didn't take to AOS, but, yes, reliable.

75hastings69 - Total rumors: (123 TRUE) / (28 FALSE) / (3 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE) - Updated 1/8/2016

80%, pretty good.

Hasting is pretty much the god of rumourmonger. But I think he's not as much in the loop as he used to, or at the very least, he's a lot less interested about GW to do as much research as he used to. Still, if h'es saying something, you can pretty much take it as gospel

Ok, thanks.

Horus Heresy in plastic, Genestealer Cults, Assassins, Deathwatch were all correctly rumored by him up to one and a half year before releases and before everyone else had rumored anything. He has excellent sources at GW. And Hastings used to show new models in the background of his Warseer painting blog photos months before release. His info is very hepful, like Sad Panda's for example.


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 Claimh_Solais wrote:
Well dont see this posted here so Found this pic on facebook ...

not much to see but what do you think ?

new demon Mortarion looks nice from what I can see (nurgle cherubim :O )

I'm confident the model in the OP is the new Mortarion miniature

 Rinkydink wrote:
Primarch's returning; okay. Imperium re-energised, okay. Cadia falling, okay. Beil-Tan fracturing, okay.

But, I just really can't get enthused about new Super Marines. My Marine army has been a labour of love over a lot of years. Hopefully all that endeavour isn't about be invalidated overnight...

Maybe wrong thread... Go Mortarion! Nothing to see here.

Perhaps now people can grasp why some of us were apprehensive about moving from a setting to an ongoing "plot" in the first place - it was only ever going to be a way for GW to "write out" existing factions or write in new ones that put existing ones to such shame that few play them.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Horus Heresy in plastic, Genestealer Cults, Assassins, Deathwatch were all correctly rumored by him up to one and a half year before releases and before everyone else had rumored anything. He has excellent sources at GW. And Hastings used to show new models in the background of his Warseer painting blog photos months before release. His info is very hepful, like Sad Panda's for example.


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 Claimh_Solais wrote:
Well dont see this posted here so Found this pic on facebook ...

not much to see but what do you think ?

new demon Mortarion looks nice from what I can see (nurgle cherubim :O )

I'm confident the model in the OP is the new Mortarion miniature

I don't think so. That Scythe looks literally exact to the Forge World one that he has. I think it is a conversion.

Plus Magnus looks somewhat like his old Epic incarnation, which, like Angron and Fulgrim also, has a look which is pretty well established in fluff.

Mortarion is portrayed as a grim reaper style figure, and while that may be something less derivative when realised in 40K scale, those images don't match that aesthetic at all.

But this also

I will build so many Plague Marines if they release a kit half as good as Blight Kings. Those made a great base already. And pretty "true" scale, so bigger ones would probably fit right in
And some form of zoooombie, be it zombie plague or AOS or whatever.

I agree that he looks like a conversion, but the background info what these photos may have been used for made me change my mind.

Warhams-77 wrote:
But this also

Spoiler:

While, looking at the way the wind is blowing, I can't see myself being involved in the game at all by the time he's released, if he looks like that, I'll be pleased that the model is out there.

I'd still say that image looks more grim reaper than the "converted blight king with stumpy wings" that I get from those images though.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Perhaps now people can grasp why some of us were apprehensive about moving from a setting to an ongoing "plot" in the first place - it was only ever going to be a way for GW to "write out" existing factions or write in new ones that put existing ones to such shame that few play them.

There are no End Times in Baghdad!

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Rinkydink wrote:
Primarch's returning; okay. Imperium re-energised, okay. Cadia falling, okay. Beil-Tan fracturing, okay.

But, I just really can't get enthused about new Super Marines. My Marine army has been a labour of love over a lot of years. Hopefully all that endeavour isn't about be invalidated overnight...

Maybe wrong thread... Go Mortarion! Nothing to see here.

Perhaps now people can grasp why some of us were apprehensive about moving from a setting to an ongoing "plot" in the first place - it was only ever going to be a way for GW to "write out" existing factions or write in new ones that put existing ones to such shame that few play them.

I was going to respond to this with the usual bit about how getting upset is pointless, but then I realized who wrote it. I see that you continue to try very hard at being unhappy. Hopefully others can learn from it, at least.

I hope it will be more armor and less grim reaper than the Epic version, but Mortarion is also a demon primarch right? Of the chaos primarchs only Konrad and Alpharius weren't demon Primarchs as far as i remember

Should be seeing a grudge match between Draigo and Mortarion then, eh? I imagine he's still butthurt from their last confrontation lol.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

I don't think so. That Scythe looks literally exact to the Forge World one that he has. I think it is a conversion.

That's not an unreasonable assumption but couldn't it also be possible that they wanted it to look like the same scythe as it's Mortarions weapon of choice, used since the Great Crusade.

I hope it's real, but then I would also like it to not be and this be a conversion and the actual GW release, if there is one, to be more like his Epic counterpart as I love that mini

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Should be seeing a grudge match between Draigo and Mortarion then, eh? I imagine he's still butthurt from their last confrontation lol.

Please no. The writing quality drops like a stone basically any time Draigo becomes involved in the plot.

A new Calas Typhon model for 40K would be sweeet.


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 gnome_idea_what wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Should be seeing a grudge match between Draigo and Mortarion then, eh? I imagine he's still butthurt from their last confrontation lol.

Please no. The writing quality drops like a stone basically any time Draigo becomes involved in the plot.

I dunno, the Mortarion vs Draigo story was pretty good.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
A new Calas Typhon model for 40K would be sweeet.


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 gnome_idea_what wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Should be seeing a grudge match between Draigo and Mortarion then, eh? I imagine he's still butthurt from their last confrontation lol.

Please no. The writing quality drops like a stone basically any time Draigo becomes involved in the plot.

I dunno, the Mortarion vs Draigo story was pretty good.

To be fair that was Black libary flushing out a story that originally read like bad fan fiction.

Meanwhile, in another "new / conversion / yes it is / no it isn't" thread...

Hmm. In Rise of the Primarch besides Magnus and Fulgrim, Mortarion is the only other Primarch mentioned when reacting to the news of Roboute's return. He would like nothing more to hunt down Roboute but he seemed to have some things cooking that diverted his attention.

Cataphract wrote:
Hmm. In Rise of the Primarch besides Magnus and Fulgrim, Mortarion is the only other Primarch mentioned when reacting to the news of Roboute's return. He would like nothing more to hunt down Roboute but he seemed to have some things cooking that diverted his attention.

Strange i would expect that Lorgar would make a move the whole heresy started when Ultramarines came to their planet and chastised the word bearers

A GW Employee I know who has been right about a couple rumors (Like Robby G) has said that Mortarion would be the next D Primarch.

Maybe we'll get the Triumvirate of Plague, and it'll contain a modern Mortarion, GUO and Typhus.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Maybe we'll get the Triumvirate of Plague, and it'll contain a modern Mortarion, GUO and Typhus.

Yes please!

T

timd wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
Maybe we'll get the Triumvirate of Plague, and it'll contain a modern Mortarion, GUO and Typhus.

Yes please!

T

Oh Lord no, I would have to actually buy something then

Hastings mentioned it won't be a Death Guard-only release. So a plastic GUO (not in a Triumvirate set though ) has a good chance to be part of this

That would go down as the most expensive triumvirate and the only one I'd buy. Lol

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

Cataphract wrote:
Hmm. In Rise of the Primarch besides Magnus and Fulgrim, Mortarion is the only other Primarch mentioned when reacting to the news of Roboute's return. He would like nothing more to hunt down Roboute but he seemed to have some things cooking that diverted his attention.

Strange i would expect that Lorgar would make a move the whole heresy started when Ultramarines came to their planet and chastised the word bearers

Since they changed the fluff so that it was all Erebus' fault, the Heresy "really" started when Erebus began worhsipping Chaos and planed to subvert Lorgar. Otherwise you're suggesting that Lorgar wouldn't have bothered twisting the Emperor's greatest champion if he hadn't been shouted at by Guilliman.

I suspect the "rivalry" between the Word bearers and Ultramarines is similar to that between England and Germany in football; The Word Bearers think they're the Ultramarines' greatest foe, while the Ultramarines think "who? Nah, we don't worry about them".

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

Cataphract wrote:
Hmm. In Rise of the Primarch besides Magnus and Fulgrim, Mortarion is the only other Primarch mentioned when reacting to the news of Roboute's return. He would like nothing more to hunt down Roboute but he seemed to have some things cooking that diverted his attention.

Strange i would expect that Lorgar would make a move the whole heresy started when Ultramarines came to their planet and chastised the word bearers

Since they changed the fluff so that it was all Erebus' fault, the Heresy "really" started when Erebus began worhsipping Chaos and planed to subvert Lorgar. Otherwise you're suggesting that Lorgar wouldn't have bothered twisting the Emperor's greatest champion if he hadn't been shouted at by Guilliman.

I suspect the "rivalry" between the Word bearers and Ultramarines is similar to that between England and Germany in football; The Word Bearers think they're the Ultramarines' greatest foe, while the Ultramarines think "who? Nah, we don't worry about them".

Given that the "Legion Benefit" of the Word Bearers grants hatred to Ultramarines while they are there, I think it's a bit more even then you think.

Though as it is It'd be lucky anyone could get any information to Lorgar in his little prayer sanctuary at all, Mortarian at least is paying attention and Fulgrim tried to kill Guilliman before and would love to eagerly corrupt him towards Slaanesh.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

Cataphract wrote:
Hmm. In Rise of the Primarch besides Magnus and Fulgrim, Mortarion is the only other Primarch mentioned when reacting to the news of Roboute's return. He would like nothing more to hunt down Roboute but he seemed to have some things cooking that diverted his attention.

Strange i would expect that Lorgar would make a move the whole heresy started when Ultramarines came to their planet and chastised the word bearers

Since they changed the fluff so that it was all Erebus' fault, the Heresy "really" started when Erebus began worhsipping Chaos and planed to subvert Lorgar. Otherwise you're suggesting that Lorgar wouldn't have bothered twisting the Emperor's greatest champion if he hadn't been shouted at by Guilliman.

I suspect the "rivalry" between the Word bearers and Ultramarines is similar to that between England and Germany in football; The Word Bearers think they're the Ultramarines' greatest foe, while the Ultramarines think "who? Nah, we don't worry about them".

I don't like football. Who are the Ultramarines in this example.

I wonder WHEN though...

Based off the 1000 sons release I do not think it will be a Triumvative style release but rather something that mirrors 1k sons and Tzeentch demons releases

Moratorian (as Magnus)
Typhus (as Ahriman)
Plague Marines
Plague Termies
Perhaps another box of assorted HQs (it does not have to mirror 1k sons exactly but is likely)

And much like the Disciples of Tzeentch that soon followed we should get serious Nurgle Demon release perhaps combined or similar to the 1000 sons and Disciples of Tzeentch.

GUO (as LOC)
Nasty demons out the wazoo....

Plague Zombies and Beasts of Nurgle probably.
I'm not sure but I think the Beasts of Nurgle might be the oldest non-HQ models in the whole Daemonrange.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

I'm not sure but I think the Beasts of Nurgle might be the oldest non-HQ models in the whole Daemonrange.

I think Fiends of Slaanesh might be older.

They're the same age. They came out at the same release schedule. Both are due for a plastic update. BoN are the only Daemon models I don't own, as I don't like them currently!!

Retconning the awful 40k Centurions and the Megamarines as being a new innovation wouldn't be so bad but it's somewhat in the face of the grimdark stagnation of 40k.

A complete embiggerising of the range with blown up in size Raiders and Rhinos would really annoy. Giving the Mega Marines Spartans or Mammoths in plastic would be a nice move. I do feel this has the potential to screw up 40k as Age of Sigmar did for Fantasy. Worrying development.

Im wondering if this release will also include an element of cultists or mutations or something that can go along with AOS as well. I liked how tzaangors and deamons work for both.

It would also give me hope that eventually Fulgrim will work his way into a release schedule that will double as the re-emergence of Slaanesh in AOS. (mostly because I want new deamonettes please)

It's unlikely that a new Slaanesh release would see plastic kits replaced. Hell at this stage I doubt we'd even get new Fiends.

In the warhammer world we live in- with plastic tzaangors, Custodians, gene stealer cults, primarchs, 3 platics sisters of silence and maybe even nu marines who can what is and isnt likly any more?

Also seems like GW is creeping back into boob territory with the Sylvaneth, so that aspect is kinda promising.

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Im wondering if this release will also include an element of cultists or mutations or something that can go along with AOS as well. I liked how tzaangors and deamons work for both.

It would also give me hope that eventually Fulgrim will work his way into a release schedule that will double as the re-emergence of Slaanesh in AOS. (mostly because I want new deamonettes please)

I also would really like a Slaanesh release that covers both 40k and AoS, but i hope they don't replace the Daemonettes. I like the current models and I'd much prefer new Fiends and much more importantly a new Keeper of Secrets, hopefully with a special character variant.

I've said it in other threads, but they should revamp the other three Chaos Gods just like they did for Tzeentch, and do it across both games.

Khorne
Angron
Kharn (already out)
Berzerker Terminators (box'o'5)
Khorne Berzerkers (new box'o'10)
Khorne Bikers (box'o'3)
Flesh Hounds (box'o'5 - work in both games)

Nurgle
Mortarion
Great Unclean One (in plastic - works for both games)
Typhus (in plastic)
Plague Terminators (box'o'5)
Plague Marines (new box'o'10)
Plague Zombies (box'o'20 - work in both games)
Beasts of Nurgle (box'o'3 - work in both games)
Pestigors (w/40K Upgrade sprue, box'o'10 - work in both games)

(Bonus mini - Plastic Palanquin of Nurgle)

Slaanesh
Fulgrim (in all his snake-y glory!)
Keeper of Secrets (in plastic - works for both games)
Lucius (in plastic)
Noise Marine Terminators (box'o'5)
Noise Marines (new box'o'10)
Khorne Bikers (box'o'3)
Fiends of Slaanesh (box'o'3 - works for both games)

Plus a few other things, either Slaangors or Noise Cultists. Something that can work across games.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
They're the same age. They came out at the same release schedule. Both are due for a plastic update. BoN are the only Daemon models I don't own, as I don't like them currently!!

A friend use FW plague toads as BoN. Awesome models, and great to se them in 40k.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
They're the same age. They came out at the same release schedule. Both are due for a plastic update. BoN are the only Daemon models I don't own, as I don't like them currently!!

Actually it's Beasts of Nurge, Fiends of Slaanesh and Flesh Hounds. All are still 'finecast' at the moment and all are still relics from 5th ed. Daemons' release.

Flesh Hounds would make a lot of sense in plastic as the kit could also allow for Karanak.

I feel like I'm nit-picking, but the Daemon book came out at the very end of 4th. It is a 4th edition book, designed for 5th.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I feel like I'm nit-picking, but the Daemon book came out at the very end of 4th. It is a 4th edition book, designed for 5th.

Given how it played, it certainly wasn't designed for 5th at all.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I've said it in other threads, but they should revamp the other three Chaos Gods just like they did for Tzeentch, and do it across both games.

Khorne
Angron
Kharn (already out)
Berzerker Terminators (box'o'5)
Khorne Berzerkers (new box'o'10)
Khorne Bikers (box'o'3)
Flesh Hounds (box'o'5 - work in both games)

Nurgle
Mortarion
Great Unclean One (in plastic - works for both games)
Typhus (in plastic)
Plague Terminators (box'o'5)
Plague Marines (new box'o'10)
Plague Zombies (box'o'20 - work in both games)
Beasts of Nurgle (box'o'3 - work in both games)
Pestigors (w/40K Upgrade sprue, box'o'10 - work in both games)

(Bonus mini - Plastic Palanquin of Nurgle)

Slaanesh
Fulgrim (in all his snake-y glory!)
Keeper of Secrets (in plastic - works for both games)
Lucius (in plastic)
Noise Marine Terminators (box'o'5)
Noise Marines (new box'o'10)
Khorne Bikers (box'o'3)
Fiends of Slaanesh (box'o'3 - works for both games)

Plus a few other things, either Slaangors or Noise Cultists. Something that can work across games.

I know it was a copy paste error but the fact that they are rivals and that khorne usually gets the good updates made me chuckle since this probably is what they would get.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I feel like I'm nit-picking, but the Daemon book came out at the very end of 4th. It is a 4th edition book, designed for 5th.

Given how it played, it certainly wasn't designed for 5th at all.

Why? It played beautifully in 5th.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I feel like I'm nit-picking, but the Daemon book came out at the very end of 4th. It is a 4th edition book, designed for 5th.

Given how it played, it certainly wasn't designed for 5th at all.

Why? It played beautifully in 5th.

Agreed, although the change to Rending made Slaaneshi armies a bit less awesome.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I feel like I'm nit-picking, but the Daemon book came out at the very end of 4th. It is a 4th edition book, designed for 5th.

Given how it played, it certainly wasn't designed for 5th at all.

Why? It played beautifully in 5th.

..We are talking about the same Codex that split your army in two on a dice roll and forced full redundancy or else failure? The same codex that relied mostly melee MC's to crack open transports that could be only hit on a 4+ or 6+? The army that ended up being broken in half by Grey Knights.. But didn't really need that since IG, Mech Wolves, and SM could deal with? When a failed deep strike could kill the entire unit because your entire army relied upon it, as well as nothing to fully help bring units in...

I don't remember it playing beautifully at all.

Then I think you played it wrong. And yes, THAT Daemon army. In the hands of a good player, it was nasty. I regularly tabled guys in my local area with it, a couple of which who used to do GT circuits and place well. I took it on the road to a couple small tournaments (I didn't care to GT it myself) and the response from similarly minded players was "Daemons? Crap. I'm guessing you know what you're doing with them." And yes. Yes I did. I miss my old book...where it wasn't point and click, but boy was it nasty.

Doing a bit of Necro here, but seems apropiate being Nurgle and all that

Eh no real point to this thread now.