Hi all!
We are a new brand about to come on to the market. Luxumbra intends to sell top-quality busts and figures at affordable prices.
Starting with a collection based on Infinity universe, Luxumbra promises to be a hit in the field of painting for both experts and amateurs.
Luxumbra will go on market through Kickstarter platform on the 14th February 2017.
This is the best way to guarantee the work reaches everyone and it can be easily purchased. Besides, as said before, if the project is well received, some other miniatures and busts might be unlocked.
It is worth emphasizing that, apart from the figures in the crowfunding campaign, there will be many other materials necessary to paint the collection as if we were Ángel Giráldez.
Stay tuned to the campaign and the social media, it promises to mark a milestone in the world of collecting figures.
Yeah, heavens forbid you actually have to produce a product before taking anyone's money!
Er... that's how capitalism works. Can you name any products that made it to mass market without taking money from someone, ie. a bank? Most people arent born independently wealthy. They need investors.
Yeah, heavens forbid you actually have to produce a product before taking anyone's money!
It was known from the start and what problem you have with this?
Eagerly waiting for it a long time now!
Funny how I follow Angel's work and have seen these being painted, yet never saw any significant mention of a Kickstarter. Just that they were going to be done by Luxumbra.
Yeah, heavens forbid you actually have to produce a product before taking anyone's money!
Er... that's how capitalism works. Can you name any products that made it to mass market without taking money from someone, ie. a bank? Most people arent born independently wealthy. They need investors.
You understand that there is a difference between an "investor" and a "customer", yes?
Luxumbra isn't looking for "investors". They, like every other Kickstarter for miniatures in recent memory, are using it as a preorder mechanic.
Yep up until a few weeks ago the female bust was for general release from lixumbra as I had it bookmarked for the release date of this month . Oh well no kickstarters for me anymore so guess I will have to wait another year for it
It is not a preorder mechanic, but your belief is not going to change anyway.
Luxumbra is a different entity from CB and does have to pay CB the IP rights for the sculpts and frankly Kickstarter is a great way to gauge interest for your project.
@CURNOW
It was announced that it was going to be a KS from their first announcement on august.
We understood that there are some people that doesn’t like the Kickstarter campaigns, but in this project as many others, we see it as something necessary to prepare our product in the best way.
We are a new company and independent from Corvus Belli and this suppose IP royalties.
If the campaign works and after the delivery´s bakers, we are going to reach the stores and that entire people that doesn’t want to get the busts and figures from Kickstarter can buy it from stores. The most important now is to reach our goal, but also you like the products that we are developing, regardless where you buy it.
Personally I love kickstarter because it means we can get cool stuff like this that would never exist without it. Also wasn't this very clearly posted fro the beginning as a Kickstarter project? I can't ever remember it being anything else and I've been following it on facebook via both theirs and Angel's pages.
Anyway, these bad boys are outanding!
Hope we can unlock a few sculpts more during the kickstarter.
Thanks for taking the time to post about this David.
Can you let us know if there will be any "unlocked" busts if the campaign reaches high enough?
I am loving the current models but sadly not enough to pledge. I was hoping that maybe there might be some more that might be unlocked during the campaign.
While I would love as battle damaged and helmetted Druze Shock Trooper or a cool Al Hawwa' bust at some point I can understand there might be as much interest for the models without skin. But that Tiger gives me hope. So pretty.
Hey man, half of those minis are missing--you gonna finish them before the KS,
Don't have the talent to paint them properly and nowhere to put them if I could. Make some 54mm (1/32) Infinity miniatures and I'll be in severe financial trouble.
Don't have the talent to paint them properly and nowhere to put them if I could. Make some 54mm (1/32) Infinity miniatures and I'll be in severe financial trouble.
These look great but for me I never got the whole bust model thing.. I'd much rather see a full figure, like how FW used to do the super sized space marine model. That would be more expensive of course, but much cooler IMO
Here our first Stretch goal! A special miniature to our Kickstarter from Corvus Belli. The O-yoroi Pilot, perfect to play with the Infinity Tournament System new rules.
Here our first Stretch goal! A special miniature to our Kickstarter from Corvus Belli. The O-yoroi Pilot, perfect to play with the Infinity Tournament System new rules.
Just so we're clear:
This model has been known about for months now. It was never ONCE advertised as a Kickstarter model. This stinks to high heaven and makes me think that they expect this Kickstarter to be a bit of a dud, as they need to throw in an exclusive model with in-game stats right at the height of an ITS event focused on TAGs and which just gave TAG pilots huge perks.
If you don't like the way Corvus are doing things then fair play but Lux isn't the same company and I'm sure they didn't get to choose the mini. And if it's a stretch goal then they must be expecting it to actually be successful since it would have to go past funded before it's even unlocked for people to order. From what I've seen people don't pledge in the hopes that they unlock a stretch goal later on, they wait until it's unlocked if that's all they want.
If you don't like Kickstarter or Corvus that's not Luxumbra's fault, lets show them a little respect.
The busts are stunning, there are two I definitely want. The O-Yoroi isn't something I really need but I may as well get it while I'm there. I wish we had an idea of the prices already.
What are the hopes of unlocking more busts as stretch goals? Or other things! I'd go wild if you did some space vehicles or some more civilian orientated stuff. Anything that builds on the universe really.
I am worried these busts are going to be rather expensive with little in the way of freebies. And all stretch goals paid add-ons? Practives like this would be a shame.
greywulf wrote: I am worried these busts are going to be rather expensive with little in the way of freebies. And all stretch goals paid add-ons? Practives like this would be a shame.
Yeh for sure. Prices and possible stretch goals are my main concerns too. Would be nice to hear a vague indication of the price of a bust and what sort of benefits we might get for pledging the kickstarter instead of waiting for retail.
I think there will be plenty of interest and we will have to wait and see because none of us can see into the future. The first day or two will paint the picture.
And stretch goals will have little to do with it. People aren't going to throw money at something they don't want to hopefully, maybe get something they do want later on.
I expect Lux to get a great response to the Kickstarter in the first few days and it'll be because people want to get these busts funded and into their hands.
If I'm wrong then that would suck for everyone involved at Luxumbra and everyone who wants to help fund those busts, what a shame that would be.
If you're right, are you going to gloat about it, Kan? And what if you're wrong, what are you going to do then?
Casey's Law wrote: I think there will be plenty of interest and we will have to wait and see because none of us can see into the future. The first day or two will paint the picture.
And stretch goals will have little to do with it. People aren't going to throw money at something they don't want to hopefully, maybe get something they do want later on.
And yet there were people with little to no interest with the Infinity RPG who threw money into the Kickstarter for the models.
I expect Lux to get a great response to the Kickstarter in the first few days and it'll be because people want to get these busts funded and into their hands.
If I'm wrong then that would suck for everyone involved at Luxumbra and everyone who wants to help fund those busts, what a shame that would be.
If you're right, are you going to gloat about it, Kan? And what if you're wrong, what are you going to do then?
There's the issue though. There's no actual way to tell for sure if it's people funding because they wanted these busts or if it's people just throwing money in for the exclusive model.
It's like the Tournament Packs. We will never know how many were sold to people just wanting the model versus how many were actually obtained for the purposes of a tournament.
And honestly, there's no real way for you or I to say in the end whether I'm wrong or right. I would be super surprised if this doesn't fund just from the number of people I've seen saying they'll put money in for the pilot, and the bust might just sit around.
Modiphius Kickstarter is a different situation isn't it? They had a pledge level which simply allowed you to buy the miniatures, you don't have to spend a penny on anything else, it's almost the same as pre ordering retail.(minus the LE issues already mentioned in the thread we should really be having this discussion in) In fact it's probable that Luxumbra will do the exact same thing, in which case what's the problem?
And here's the kicker... there is in fact easy to access information about what percentage of people solely bought those miniatures. These numbers aren't hard because of pledge managing and after market pledge sales but the Kickstarter from Modiphius clearly shows that people wanted other things that were on offer. 80 people only wanted, and only paid for the miniatures compared to 3420 people who backed the project. That's not even enough to back that project 16% of the way to funding it and it's barely over 1% of the final amount that was pledged.
So, Kan, where are all these people who only want the miniatures and can't have them without being forced to buy something else? I see a tiny percentage that only want the miniatures and none that were forced to buy something else to get them.
So at the end of Luxumbra's hopefully wonderful and fruitious kickstarter, if they do things the same way, it will be very clear whether they were funded out of spite or out of appeal.
I'm not trying to fight with you on this, mate, but you're raving about it like a crazy old conspiracy theorist and I think you just need to step back and take a breath. There's plenty of stuff to be miffed about but it's not kickstarter and it's not Luxumbra. Your flopping between arguments over these two threads and pm to the point that I'm not even sure what your upset about any more. If it's the whole limited edition issue then we pretty much all agree with you as far as I can see, it's not the best way to do things but we can have that chat sensibly where it makes sense to have it rather than dragging these guys into it.
If anyone wants to continue the discussion then I'd rather you hit me up in the Infinity N&R thread which I always check for new posts. I won't be responding here unless it's to talk about these dope busts:
Sorry to Luxumbra for completely derailing your thread.
Whoa, that post from Corvus is either hugely coincidental or someone is reading these Dakka threads closely.
You! I'm behind you.
For what it's worth, if you click through to their link at the bottom you'll see that the 32mm is also going to be available in some manner.
Those pledges are bloody naughty though! I just want two of the busts but those deals are great, I'm gona struggle to show restraint and only get what I need. The pre Valentines deal is very, very tempting.
Just so we're clear and there's no confusion, the poster made this post in the Infinity thread as well.
One of the many surprises that Luxumbra has prepared for us is an unlockable of the 32 mm exclusive version of the O-Yoroi Pilot, ideal to play using the new ITS rules where, because of the TAGLINE Effect, all Pilots have a special presence now.
So yes. There is the gaming sized model as well as the 75mm.
There is nothing whatsoever saying "We're only selling the 75mm via Kickstarter" or any such nonsense.
Luxumbra is a young company created by Angel Giraldez and David Anta (DAF), two professionals and veterans of the miniatures scene, which is like a seal of quality for this project. And their Kickstarter campaign will start the next Tuesday, February the 14th, Luxumbra: Infinity Collectors.
Infinity Collectors is an open collection of four busts and a 75mm miniature based on designs of troops and characters of Infinity, sculpted in great deal of detail and astounding quality.
Acherontia, from the Mobile Brigada Squad,
Tarik Mansuri,
a Daturazi
and a Tiger Soldier
are the chosen characters to start this bust collection, while the O-Yoroi Pilot is the first model from their 75mm miniatures range...
Here you have a sample of the pledges that you will find on this Kickstarter in partnership with Infinity:
ONLY ONE BUST?:
40$ - Choose your favorite bust.
ONLY ONE OYOROI 75mm?:
45$ - An O- Yoroi Pilot 75mm.
BUST PACK:
120$ - Take home all four busts in this essential pack.
ALL IN ONE PACK:
155$ - All busts and the O- Yoroi Pilot 75mm
Only available on Saint Valentine’s Day, the ideal pack for miniatures lovers:
VALENTINE´S DAY PACK:
150$ -A special offer, you take everything, the busts and the O-Yoroi Pilot 75mm
One of the many surprises that Luxumbra has prepared for us is an unlockable of the 32 mm exclusive version of the O-Yoroi Pilot, ideal to play using the new ITS rules where, because of the TAGLINE Effect, all Pilots have a special presence now.
Infinity Collectors, a new dimension for the Infinity Universe!
And also:
There is not a miniature for them yet on the Infinity range, but this is something you shouldn’t worry about. Corvus Belli has decided to support Luxumbra’s kickstarter providing a spectacular 32mm miniature that represents faithfully the O-Yoroi Pilot illustration. So don’t forget to back this project and get your miniature before is too late!
Not aimed at me but It was a good question so you're getting my answer too, Alph!
I only wanted two busts but I've jumped on that Valentines deal. It's over the budget I gave myself but it's too good a deal to pass up in my opinion. I'll probably end up trading/selling a couple of them off later.
Okay so loads of people seem to be thinking about pledging just to get the 32mm O-Yoroi. I've looked into it and I may be able to buy them and redistribute.
As far as I can tell there aren't any customs charges but I'm guessing my package will cost more to ship. Apart from that it boils down to the price of the mini, postage and packaging.
I'm doing a bit of guess work right now but it seems like I can do each one for the following, if your location isn't listed or if you want a price for more than one just ask. UK: £15 US: £25 AU: £25
If there is some interest I'll look into it more closely and get hard prices. Thread here.
These are awful stretch goals. For a campaign designed to produce busts and large-scale figures, it's laughable that it takes $100,000 in funding, $80,000 beyond the base funding, to fund the next figure. When will we see another PAID figure add-on? At $200,000? Does it seriously cost $80,000 to fund each sculpt?
I know it's just my opinion but i dont need stickers, bases, art cards, or any of that. What I backed for was large-scale infinity figures and taking $10,000 as a reasonable estimate for what it takes to design, sculpt, and then pay IP rights for each new bust, we should be seeing or hearing about 6 new concepts by now.
I'm in for now but so far I'm pretty disappointed. I'll make my final decision near the end.
greywulf wrote: These are awful stretch goals. For a campaign designed to produce busts and large-scale figures, it's laughable that it takes $100,000 in funding, $80,000 beyond the base funding, to fund the next figure. When will we see another PAID figure add-on? At $200,000? Does it seriously cost $80,000 to fund each sculpt?
I know it's just my opinion but i dont need stickers, bases, art cards, or any of that. What I backed for was large-scale infinity figures and taking $10,000 as a reasonable estimate for what it takes to design, sculpt, and then pay IP rights for each new bust, we should be seeing or hearing about 6 new concepts by now.
I'm in for now but so far I'm pretty disappointed. I'll make my final decision near the end.
It isn't so much that it takes 80k to fund a new sculpt so much as at that point they have paid off all the costs of anything previous (sculpts, casting, offset price for Giraldez books, signature airbrush set, etc, etc) while also (probably) paying off a chunk towards the cost of the Ajax sculpt/casting etc.
As the Ajax model is a new claim there probably isn't nearly as much certainty about how well it will work as the 4 current busts that they have currently have actually producible.
You mention that you consider that $10k is a reasonable estimate for a sculpt. Not sure where you pulled that out of but ok, lets run with that.
There is currently 5 sculpts. So at your estimation that should be about 50k in the hole. Luxumbra has put down 20k as their goal, so they would hope to make the other 30k through other sales etc later on by this logic.
They have added in a bunch of other extras of varying value and cost so that will add a cost, I will leave you to make that amount up since that is your part of this conversation.
So, coming back to the 10k per bust, they will need that paid off before they can commit to the Ajax so whatever the difference between the 50k and the 90k minus the number you come up with for the costs of the extras would be the amount needed to pay off the other debts (left over Art book stock etc etc)
Of course this all balances on a random number you have picked, but it makes sense to me as I am fine with this as it is a stretch.
My not so secret hope is that it continues to roll on so that maybe they can be encouraged to have another bust (please be a busted up Druze with combat damage )
I dont understand your logic. 20k was the base funding. They put 30k of their own money in to get this all started, so we've attained the base. 30 + 20 = 50 = 5 base models. Every $ beyond the base shouldnt be to pay off what's already producable. Every extra $ should be to fund new ideas, which is barely happening.
$10k to fund a new sculpt? It's actually way too generous. $2-3k is probably more accurate for design, sculpting, and producing a limited amount. Add the painting, maybe $1k more if Angel is milking this.
Where do I get $10k as a generous figure? My experience with dozens of KSs now. Any of the Mierce ones will give you a sense of it. They contract some of the best sculptors and artists in the industry and it doesn't take $80k to fund a single figure. They'd be laughed off the stage.
With the revelation that you can add as many pilots as you want, I'm out. I've got a friend who is a big painter who is in for all 4 busts, so I'm throwing him $40au for 2 pilots. That'll cover exchange rates and shipping. One to paint, one to put away.
Thank you for all your comments. The most critical help us to understand all of you.
We are really happy with the financing, but I want you to understand one thing.
We have 4 products in progress to create new busts and miniatures. The financing of this project will be used to make possible new miniatures, to the production and for the packaging for the old ones, to be with the best quality possible and for more gifts that are about to be unlocked, but we don´t think it is a good idea to fill this kickstarter with figures.
We want to accomplish the delivery deadlines for our base products and the possible unlocked stretch goals.
Our company is small and our capabilities too. You will see many new busts and big figures, but you will see some of its for the first time in the stores, after we send all your pledges & gifts.
We will try to do the best with the new miniatures.
More stretch goals, with an special gift in 100 000$
I'm wondering, will it be possible to substitute items in the pledges or do we have to take exactly what the description says?
Also will any more busts or miniatures be available in stretch goals or was that the last one?
Hi Casey´s Law,
Sorry but it is not possible to susbtitute the packs. We need those packs works, they are our base product.
If we unlock more busts you can choose with the pledge of 40 $, just like if we unlock more figures of 45 $ or 50 $, you can choose with those pledges.
The idea is to show the following figure at the moment the next stretch is unlocked.
Hmm, okay, even if we pay the difference if it costs more? I might pull back on my pledge a bit then and just get what I really need, the Valentines deal is great but I'd rather have Ajax than a couple of the busts.
With the stretch goals, wouldn't it be a good idea to show off the next big unlock in advance to get people excited and sharing the kickstarter with their friends in the hope of unlocking it? I would assume if people think all the good stuff is already unlocked then they won't be inclined to help things along and pledges might stagnate?
Ajax is a large scale model - 90mm, like the large 75mm model, which does have its own pledge level. So there's no precedent here to add a pledge level for a 32mm model.
I reckon, it's more likely to be something smaller since they seem to be keeping the busts in scale with each other. A Jotum would be awesome though.
Is it vain to think that this new update is a result of my comment? Because I do. Also might be an idea to run a spell check over the new unlocks guys.
Just saw this:
Studio Giraldez wrote:You can put an antenna or an ear in your Acherondia bust
According to the last update this project has been made NZ/OZ friendly. If anyone else in this region wants to piggyback on my order (for a 32mm O-Yoroi) let me know before it closes.
I bet there will be a lot of love for Joan even if it's post Kickstarter. Would you guys also consider doing the physical book at 900 backers instead of 1000? It's the one thing I'm holding out hope for, I'll probably look at the pdf for 30 seconds but having it in print will have me revisiting it for years to come.
Casey's Law wrote: I bet there will be a lot of love for Joan even if it's post Kickstarter. Would you guys also consider doing the physical book at 900 backers instead of 1000? It's the one thing I'm holding out hope for, I'll probably look at the pdf for 30 seconds but having it in print will have me revisiting it for years to come.
Don´t worry Casey, we also want to reach 1000 backers. Maybe could be surprises the last week.
At least we unlocked the Customeeple base for our O-Yoroi Pilot. You can add it now to your pledge.
More advances in Ajax:
Work for this week:
Phase 3: Final Pose.
Phase 4: Reposition and refine all the elements. The Hammer.
It's all looking great really. I think the goals are possible they way things are going but it's going to come down to the wire. Social goals as of 5th march:
Luxumbra Kickstarter wrote:Our latest review of Social media Stretch Goals:
Thus, we have asked our friends at Customeeple if they could design a new base for Ajax the great. This way, he can show himself in your showcase as he deserves, with all his might and greatness. This base will be a new add-on unlocked when we reach 115,000$.
We remember that only need 16 000$ to unlock Joan of arc:
Thanks a lot all backers from Daka Daka. You are 5 right now
Welcome to the first update before the campaign ends We are trying to respond all your common doubts:
1. Can I add something else to my pledge? Yes, in our pledge manager: Backerkit. We will send you a survey where you will be able to add more products, update your shipping address and pay for the shipping.
2. Do you unlock Joan of Arc bust and Morlock 75mm? Yes, the campaign reach more than 151000$ in the last minutes and you will have these miniatures in the pledge manager to add they like add-ons. Sorry but the campaign blocks once it is finished and we can not change some images.
3. Do you have a new base for the Morlock 75mm like O-yoroi and Ajax? Yes, we will work on it this weeks and it will be in the pledge manager.
4. Can i be a backer after campaign ends? We are sorry but no. In the other hands, you will be able to preorder the products during the pledge manager. Wait some weeks please.
5. Will you show us the artistic proccess of Joan of Arc and Morlock girl? Of course. This week we will finish Ajax.
- Joan of Arc bust will be sculpted by Fausto Gutierrez. He sculpted Tarik and the Daturazi.
- Morlock Girl will be sculpted by Antonio Moreira. He sculpted Acherontia.
Ask us what you want in this update, this is your moment
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