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Post by: Ghaz
From Warhammer Community
Warhammer 40,000 is nearly 30 years old! We were going to celebrate with cake, but we couldn’t find a way to make the jam stay on the sprue, so instead, we’re sticking with the basics with a new collector’s edition Space Marine. Whether you’ve been with us since Rogue Trader or you’ve just started your journey in the 41st Millennium, this is your chance to own a little piece of Warhammer 40,000 history.
The 30th Anniversary Primaris Veteran Sergeant is a testament to several generations of Warhammer 40,000. Clad in Mk X Tacticus armour like his brethren, the model is packed with little details to tie it to its predecessors, including a Crux Terminatus, a sheathed sword and a marksman’s honour, as well as the choice of two different heads – helmeted or unhelmeted. This guy is going to look right at home leading your Primaris Space Marines, making for a characterful alternative to the standard Sergeant, and you’ll be able to customise yours to fit whatever Chapter is your favourite. Whether or not you play Space Marines, this collector’s edition Primaris Veteran Sergeant is a great way to celebrate your part in making Warhammer 40,000 what it is today.
You’ll be able to pre-order your own Primaris Veteran Sergeant on the 2nd of September, and he’ll be available in stores a week after that. In the meantime, rules for Veteran Sergeants (and the rest of the Space Marines) can be found in Codex: Space Marines. Happy Birthday to Us!
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Post by: Nazrak
Wow, this is spectacularly boring.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Sure, but it's also spectacularly able to see play without needing a whole Index just to field it. It's a Veteran Sergeant model for a squad, not a Captain or a SuperCoolDude.
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Post by: Azreal13
There's about a bajillion things which would fit that criteria that would be dramatically less uninspired than that.
It'll probably cost a bomb on top as well.
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Post by: Ehldar
Primaris - check
Character / Leader - check
That means - 50 CDN / 45 USD!
Ooops forgot it is super duper special edition let's tack on another 5!
I'm predicting 55 / 50 in cost and worse yet sell out because no one has figured massive profits for GW are coming from your pocket.
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Post by: Vorian
What a bizarre choice.
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Post by: Bull0
Veteran Sergeant Blandius is here to make sure 40k's 30th birthday doesn't get too exciting. Let's keep this static and dull, folks.
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Post by: warboss
At least he gets to use the power sword option right out of the box unlike every intercessor sergeant in the upcoming kit.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Don't we all become less interesting as we leave our 20s?
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Post by: warboss
Are you saying gamers age like cheap wine? Many of us become bitter and give off a sulfurous odors?
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Post by: silent25
Meh. Not even a homage to a classic figure or art. Waste of an opportunity.
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Post by: Ehldar
silent25 wrote:Meh. Not even a homage to a classic figure or art. Waste of an opportunity.
They should have put out RT->Primaris set, like and armour through the ages. Even as a non-spacer player I would have bought one (if decently priced).
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Post by: Elbows
un·der·whelm
ˌəndərˈ(h)welm/
verbhumorous
gerund or present participle: underwhelming
fail to impress or make a positive impact on (someone); disappoint.
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Post by: Ehldar
warboss wrote:At least he gets to use the power sword option right out of the box unlike every intercessor sergeant in the upcoming kit.
Maybe done on purpose so folks by this one instead
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Post by: -DE-
I'm enjoying his Mark X Tacticool armor.
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Post by: Theophony
Maybe they need to redo the statue outside the hq to a primaris in this pose.
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Post by: Souleater
I would have preferred an Ork.
This is just another UM dude in a sea of UM dudes.
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Post by: Insectum7
Hah! God no. . . only to people still in their 20's.
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Post by: ZenBadger
Its ok but a set with a Womble and an Ork would have made more sense as they were the first two 40k ranges. I would definitely have bought those, not sure about this - any more than £10 and I'm out.
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Post by: Red Corsair
Man if you stick this guy in a unit nobody is going to know he was a special edition model. Hopefully this guy is a free door gift for certain orders or something.
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Post by: theharrower
Seriously? Why even spend the money getting the molds for this done? What a waste.
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Post by: General Kroll
That has to be the most underwhelming limited edition ever.
Wow.
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Post by: Galas
Yeah. Is cool but... boring. A reimagining of a very classic and old model like Slambo or Canoness Veridyan could have been much better.
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Post by: Voss
warboss wrote:At least he gets to use the power sword option right out of the box unlike every intercessor sergeant in the upcoming kit.
What power sword? He's got an ogre's boot knife stuck to his bum.
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Post by: Geifer
Yep. That's a Primaris Marine alright.
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Post by: Chikout
It is a nice enough model but not as good as the lieutenants or limited edition captain. Why isn't it a white dwarf freebie? There is always part of me that is relieved when special edition minis are unremarkable as I rarely have the opportunity to pick one up. That said if this is all they are doing to commentate 30 years I will be a bit disappointed.
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Post by: Breotan
It certainly is lackluster. I'm honestly surprised they didn't make a more interesting looking model for their anniversary, a decorative base, at least.
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Post by: Crimson
Super meh. Sure, it looks good, but so do all intercessors, so this is completely unnoteworthy. I understand that they wanted to do a primaris marine, but they should have made a primarised version of some classic model or space marine art. Connecting eras like that would have made much more sense as 30 years celebration model.
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Funny how a limited edition model that isn't covered in skulls is considered bland.
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Post by: Sgt. Cortez
Cool. It's Alpharius. You'd never think that's the awesome guy if you fielded him in a Squad.
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Post by: warboss
Tannhauser42 wrote:Funny how a limited edition model that isn't covered in skulls is considered bland. I don't think that's what people are complaining about. He's got a starter set push fit pose which isn't typical for such a supposedly momentous anniversary release. They're typically doing something more heroic/impractical than a simple aiming advance.
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Post by: spiralingcadaver
Yeah, don't think it's about not being blinged out.
He looks like a model you could have gotten out of the box, and added a couple bits from your bin. (He's, what, got a sheathed knife no one will see; a tassle on his shoulder; a long purity seal?) If someone said they made him, I might have noticed it wasn't standard, and then would have assumed it had a couple parts from one of the veteran kits swapped in.
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Post by: Geifer
Tannhauser42 wrote:Funny how a limited edition model that isn't covered in skulls is considered bland.
What makes this guy special? What ties him to any piece of noteworthy 40k history of the last 30 years, barring the last two months?
This Marine could be any Marine from the starter set or the new multi-part kits. Skull overload may be heavy-handed, but a clear visual signal that you are looking at something special.
That's probably it. After boring us to death with Marines for the last 30 years, GW is telling us what they intend to do for the next 30 years. Truly a marvelous and surprisingly honest statement from GW.
Sgt. Cortez wrote:Cool. It's Alpharius. You'd never think that's the awesome guy if you fielded him in a Squad.
Best comment so far.
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Post by: youwashock
Not what I was expecting to see. Curiously understated.
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Post by: Tamereth
So to celebrate 30 years of the 40k setting, we get a primaris marine which have existed for what, a month.
Not that GW are ramming them down our throats or anything.
It's such an underwhelming model to boot.
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Post by: puma713
Meh. Probably snap-fit too.
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Post by: CadianXV
As others have said, a missed opportunity.
Given Wayne England's passing last year, it would have been nice to honour a piece of his artwork with this anniversary.
I'd personally have loved to see a depiction of this:
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Post by: Breotan
Tannhauser42 wrote:Funny how a limited edition model that isn't covered in skulls is considered bland.
Is it difficult to believe that we just find a bland model to be... bland? The new model make it looks like GW didn't put a lot of thought or effort into it.
Geifer wrote:What makes this guy special? What ties him to any piece of noteworthy 40k history of the last 30 years, barring the last two months? This Marine could be any Marine from the starter set or the new multi-part kits. Skull overload may be heavy-handed, but a clear visual signal that you are looking at something special.
To drive home your point, here are previous "anniversary" models released by GW. Neither look like a generic snap-fit trooper you get in a starter box.
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Post by: spiralingcadaver
I thought the [whatever crazy gun] marine was on the bland and small side, but yeah, both of those and the BA captain all did a nice job referencing a bit of GW history rather than looking like basically a generic tac marine
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Breotan wrote: Tannhauser42 wrote:Funny how a limited edition model that isn't covered in skulls is considered bland.
Is it difficult to believe that we just find a bland model to be... bland?
I display a general garment and you claim it is cut to your fit?
Simply put, I find it funny that GW has been criticized for making special models in jumping, screaming, pointing poses with no helmets and covered in skulls, and now that we have a model which is none of those things, GW is still getting criticized.
It was not a comment meant for you or anyone else to take personal offense at.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Impressively dull. Compared to the anniversary marine released last year (which I still want so badly but don't want to spend $70 on) I don't think I would go to my local store to pick it up even if it were free.
Why not make one of the old RT aliens in plastic or at least make the model have an ounce of character...
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Post by: insaniak
Am I missing something? It's a space marine with a bolter.
Uh... Woo?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Tannhauser42 wrote:Funny how a limited edition model that isn't covered in skulls is considered bland.
It's not the lack of skulls that's the problem. It's the fact that it looks like a model that could be built straight out of the normal Primaris box.
The whole point of special, limited edition models is that they look like special, limited edition models. Otherwise, what's the point?
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Post by: puma713
insaniak wrote:
It's not the lack of skulls that's the problem. It's the fact that it looks like a model that could be built straight out of the normal Primaris box.
The whole point of special, limited edition models is that they look like special, limited edition models. Otherwise, what's the point?
This. On the tabletop, your 30-year miniature just blends in to the rest of your squad. Someone without a keen eye is probably not even going to notice. I would think something marking your 30th year in the business would be distinguishable from a normal rank-and-file.
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Post by: whalemusic360
I thought the dude with the destructor gun (or whatever) was for the 30th?
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Post by: Vorian
The old IG with greatcoat and full helmet would have been so much better :(
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Post by: Ghaz
He was for the 30th anniversary of the Space Marine, not the 30th anniversary of 40K.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
While boring, he probably relates to most 30 year old gamers. Sure, he got that promotion, but he's still just a cog in the machine, nothing special, forgettable...
*pours drink*
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Post by: judgedoug
You guys are all claiming that it's boring, but what I see is an oldschool Space Marine with all the oldschool Marine accessories, bolter with scope, purity seals, knife, etc, done in Primaris truescale.
Which is hopefully a taste of the eventual phasing out of the old Squat Marines.
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Post by: Erren
So, what's to keep me from giving this guy lieutenant transfers and putting him on a bigger base? I don't see what on the Dark Imperium lieutenants is supposed to mark them out as special other than the paint scheme and war gear options.
At least as an HQ someone might recognize it as an anniversary model. Better than hiding him in a squad.
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Post by: BrianDavion
I think one thing we've missed is that this is an offical Primaris model with a cruix Terminus.
upcoming Primaris terminators confirmed? or am I reading into this too much
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Post by: Crimson
Erren wrote:So, what's to keep me from giving this guy lieutenant transfers and putting him on a bigger base? I don't see what on the Dark Imperium lieutenants is supposed to mark them out as special other than the paint scheme and war gear options.
Lieutenants can only take the gakky bolt rifle variants, not the standard one this guy has.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
BrianDavion wrote:I think one thing we've missed is that this is an offical Primaris model with a cruix Terminus.
upcoming Primaris terminators confirmed? or am I reading into this too much
I don't see a Crux...
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Post by: ScarletRose
I don't see a Crux...
Hanging off his right pauldron along with that bullet on a string. Honestly I think they just recycled a shoulder pad
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Post by: Ghaz
The description also says it has a Crux Terminatus...
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Post by: whalemusic360
BrianDavion wrote:I think one thing we've missed is that this is an offical Primaris model with a cruix Terminus.
upcoming Primaris terminators confirmed? or am I reading into this too much
If I remember right, Crux marks a veteran, not terminator specifically. Terminator squads are just made up of veterans, but so are sternguard and vanguard.
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Post by: Nazrak
Have I gone mad, or have they deleted the Facebook post about this cos everyone was saying how boring it was?
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Post by: Lemondish
Can't make anyone happy these days, it seems.
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Post by: spiralingcadaver
insaniak wrote:It's the fact that it looks like a model that could be built straight out of the normal Primaris box.
The whole point of special, limited edition models is that they look like special, limited edition models. Otherwise, what's the point?
This. I think the most vanilla models I can remember GW LEs having been are:
-the special gun beakie, which still has an obviously different style of armor and unique gun
-the at-ease cadians, which despite being completely vanilla gear and not doing anything cool, were in a pose that made them unique Automatically Appended Next Post: whalemusic360 wrote:If I remember right, Crux marks a veteran, not terminator specifically. Terminator squads are just made up of veterans, but so are sternguard and vanguard.
At one point, it was a badge indicating that you'd campaigned? just been trained in? somehow interacted with? terminator armor. Meaning, probably 1st company and definitely some kind of recognized veteran, but not 1:1.
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Post by: Crimson
Nazrak wrote:Have I gone mad, or have they deleted the Facebook post about this cos everyone was saying how boring it was?
I can't see it anymore either...
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Post by: Elbows
The issue here is that this model will be nigh indistinguishable from any generic Primaris marine a few years from now. Maybe the odd completionist collector, but nothing about this model stands out. And it doesn't have to stand out in a crazy cranked-to-eleven fashion.
The model is incredibly blase for anything supposed to be "celebrating" any part of a company's history. Heck the old Games Day releases were far better than this most of the time.
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Post by: insaniak
That's overly melodramatic. GW have been doing a lot right for a lot of people, lately.
That doesn't mean everyone is going to like everything they do. Or that people are going to be excited about a 'limited edition' model that looks like it could be assembled straight out of the Intercessor box.
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Post by: ZenBadger
I just rang GW and told them to have another try. There should be a vignette of a Slann fighting a Sqat mounted on a Zoat out in a couple of weeks or so.
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Post by: Nostromodamus
ZenBadger wrote:I just rang GW and told them to have another try. There should be a vignette of a Slann fighting a Sqat mounted on a Zoat out in a couple of weeks or so.
That would sell like hot cakes.
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Post by: Voss
Elbows wrote:The issue here is that this model will be nigh indistinguishable from any generic Primaris marine a few years from now.
It doesn't have to be a few years from now. Aside from the cheap-looking Ren Faire dagger, it's indistinguishable now. Even the Sergeant status is mostly the paint.
Find a spare dagger from an Empire rabble/Mordheim box and glue it to the back of a push-fit primaris and you've got the same thing.
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Post by: TheCustomLime
Wow. That's certainly a Primaris marine. They couldn't even give him a unique looking bare head or something to make him different. Swing and a miss, GW, better luck next time.
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Post by: Ghaz
TheCustomLime wrote:Wow. That's certainly a Primaris marine. They couldn't even give him a unique looking bare head or something to make him different. Swing and a miss, GW, better luck next time.
The description says he comes with a bare head...
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Post by: Crimson
Ghaz wrote:
The description says he comes with a bare head...
That better be the most amazing space marine head ever produced!
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Post by: BrianDavion
Ghaz wrote: TheCustomLime wrote:Wow. That's certainly a Primaris marine. They couldn't even give him a unique looking bare head or something to make him different. Swing and a miss, GW, better luck next time.
The description says he comes with a bare head...
GW seems to be trying to make all Primaris Marines have bare head or helmet to appease those of us who think no helmets is dumb
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Post by: TheCustomLime
Ghaz wrote: TheCustomLime wrote:Wow. That's certainly a Primaris marine. They couldn't even give him a unique looking bare head or something to make him different. Swing and a miss, GW, better luck next time.
The description says he comes with a bare head...
Oh. Well, that's on me for not reading the description. Still, if it's a good bare head enough to make up for the blandness of the rest of the model they should've put that one on for the promotional materal.
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Post by: daedalus
I kind of hope it's the generic "bald and screaming" head to be honest.
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Post by: warboss
Crimson wrote: Ghaz wrote:
The description says he comes with a bare head...
That better be the most amazing space marine head ever produced!
If he's really the 30th anniversary marine then he should have some wicked cool 80's hair and not the primaris buzz cut.
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Post by: Joyboozer
I don't see the problem, this miniature accurately represents new GWs vision of exciting and creative.
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Post by: AduroT
I like it. Will most probably be picking it up to lead one of my squads instead of one of the conversions I had planned.
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Post by: Souleater
Is it just me or has the FB post for this disappeared?
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Post by: General Kroll
Well I tried to look for it earlier. Couldn't find it.
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Post by: Mr Morden
Oh look a rather dull Marine model.
So many things they could have done and thats it.
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Post by: zedmeister
Is that it? After 30 years and all we get is a generic trooper.
They should have done a limited print run of the RTB01 sprues. That would've got people excited. Or perhaps an updated "battle at the farm"...
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Post by: Bull0
zedmeister wrote:Is that it? After 30 years and all we get is a generic trooper.
They should have done a limited print run of the RTB01 sprues. That would've got people excited. Or perhaps an updated "battle at the farm"...
We don't know for sure that it's ALL we're getting, yet.
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Post by: zedmeister
Bull0 wrote: zedmeister wrote:Is that it? After 30 years and all we get is a generic trooper.
They should have done a limited print run of the RTB01 sprues. That would've got people excited. Or perhaps an updated "battle at the farm"...
We don't know for sure that it's ALL we're getting, yet.
Well, I hope for more that's for sure. The above trooper doesn't really open the wallet...
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Post by: Orlanth
White Dwarf gave us a free Slaughterpriest, and it is a decent model.
Perhaps this marine will be on White Dwarf or given out for shop purchases over a threshold.
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Post by: puma713
Ghaz wrote: TheCustomLime wrote:Wow. That's certainly a Primaris marine. They couldn't even give him a unique looking bare head or something to make him different. Swing and a miss, GW, better luck next time.
The description says he comes with a bare head...
That's what's going to justify the price tag.
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Post by: Dryaktylus
puma713 wrote: Ghaz wrote: TheCustomLime wrote:Wow. That's certainly a Primaris marine. They couldn't even give him a unique looking bare head or something to make him different. Swing and a miss, GW, better luck next time.
The description says he comes with a bare head...
That's what's going to justify the price tag.
What if he has a mullet?
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Post by: warboss
Dryaktylus wrote: puma713 wrote: Ghaz wrote: TheCustomLime wrote:Wow. That's certainly a Primaris marine. They couldn't even give him a unique looking bare head or something to make him different. Swing and a miss, GW, better luck next time.
The description says he comes with a bare head...
That's what's going to justify the price tag.
What if he has a mullet?
Then he'll still be ridiculously overpriced for a monopose starter set style model.
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Post by: puma713
warboss wrote: Crimson wrote: Ghaz wrote:
The description says he comes with a bare head...
That better be the most amazing space marine head ever produced!
If he's really the 30th anniversary marine then he should have some wicked cool 80's hair and not the primaris buzz cut.
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Post by: Crimson
A new version of that guy would have been a worthy anniversary model!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Kanluwen wrote:Sure, but it's also spectacularly able to see play without needing a whole Index just to field it.
I guess that makes it ok then.
Kanluwen wrote:It's a Veteran Sergeant model for a squad, not a Captain or a SuperCoolDude.
Yes. Hence: Boring!
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Post by: -Loki-
I think that the biggest red flag is, for something celebrating 30 years of Games Workshops history, for a game where their limited edition models are regularly (always?) Space Marines, they chose a Primaris Marine.
It's like they're subliminally telling people that their regular Space Marines are being replaced.
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Post by: insaniak
-Loki- wrote:I think that the biggest red flag is, for something celebrating 30 years of Games Workshops history, for a game where their limited edition models are regularly (always?) Space Marines, they chose a Primaris Marine.
It's like they're subliminally telling people that their regular Space Marines are being replaced.
I don't think there's anything subliminal about it, by this point. Anyone who still thinks regular marines aren't an endangered species is just in denial.
The thing is, this could have been a Primaris marine and still been cool. They could have gone with a Primaris version of a classic RT model, and it would have been awesome. Instead, we got a model thrown together in 3 and a half minutes from existing kits, with some purity seals thrown on. Woo!
An anniversary model should celebrate the game's history. This doesn't. It's just a space marine.
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Post by: Groundh0g
Wow. The Primaris equivalent of this as an anniversary mini:
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Post by: warboss
Don't be ridiculous. It needs a tassel, purity seal, and second head. That TOTALLY makes it worth $30+ USD plus shipping direct from GW.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
insaniak wrote:An anniversary model should celebrate the game's history. This doesn't. It's just a space marine.
I'd argue it's not even that. It's a Primaris Marine. They're celebrating the 30th anniversary of 40K with something that's only been in the game for 2 months. Poor show. I have but one like to give.
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Post by: Retrogamer0001
Bull0 wrote:Veteran Sergeant Blandius is here to make sure 40k's 30th birthday doesn't get too exciting. Let's keep this static and dull, folks.
Best thing I've read in this thread. Literally laughed out loud, and I'm at the gym
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Post by: Slinky
It's not terribly exciting, is it. The sergeants from the starter sets have more going on.
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Post by: DarkStarSabre
Tannhauser42 wrote:Funny how a limited edition model that isn't covered in skulls is considered bland.
It's not dynamic at all. It's a guy, sitting there, pointing a gun.
There is nothing that marks him out as being special or unique.
Nothing that signifies the anniversary at all.
Nothing to make him remotely appealing.
It doesn't need to be covered in skulls.
But perhaps a dynamic pose? Perhaps an ornate looking shoulder or two? Perhaps a variant helm? Perhaps an ornate looking weapon?
At the moment this is literally a bit of rope across a shoulder different from what you can do with a normal intercessor. And twice as dull.
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Post by: Hanskrampf
Model aside, where are the rules for Veteran Sergeants they spoke of?
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Post by: Lockark
I have been STAREING at that pic for any idea what is special about that guy. He looks like the box set srgs in maby a slightly different pose????
He's just holding his gun more or less the same as every other primaris we've seen
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
The move to plastics may be handicapping GW's ability to do special models. Remember when they did the last 'White Dwarf' anniversary mini and it was just a Fire Slayer (Fyr Slyr?) model with a white beard?
This may be a case of someone taking down a model that already was planned and christening it an anniversary model because plastics take so much longer to prepare.
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Post by: Geifer
Kid_Kyoto wrote:The move to plastics may be handicapping GW's ability to do special models. Remember when they did the last 'White Dwarf' anniversary mini and it was just a Fire Slayer (Fyr Slyr?) model with a white beard?
This may be a case of someone taking down a model that already was planned and christening it an anniversary model because plastics take so much longer to prepare.
Not even a Fyr Slyr but an actual Slayer. Short, scawny, from before the Age of Embiggening. That was poor, but you could have put down to GW not being willing to put the money into Age of Sigmar because it was still unproven and needed to make as much money for as little investment as possible.
But this is a Space Marine. If GW doesn't money or foresight to make an anniversary Marine, they're in trouble. And we know from the financial report that they are very much not in trouble. Sure, things have only been looking up since the General's Handbook, give or take,, but that's been a year ago. It's not like 40k's 30th anniversary should take GW by surprise. They have calendars in Nottingham, don't they?
Not that I can offer a different theory. This "anniversary" model is just baffling.
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Post by: MaxT
It's a nice model that if it came in the set of Intercessors i'd be happy to have.
As a 30th anniversary special edition model? Not so much.
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Post by: SargentWhiskey
Disappointing.... really... reallly disappointing
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Post by: ender502
hey look! It's not a guy with no helmet screaming and raising his fist like an old man telling those darn kids to get off his lawn.
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Post by: Polonius
I like it. Not sure I like it enough to drop 35 bucks on though.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Polonius wrote:I like it. Not sure I like it enough to drop 35 bucks on though.
But do you like it as the miniature chosen to celebrate the 30th anniversary of 40K?
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Post by: CoreCommander
The 25th anniversary mini of the Crimson fist from Rogue trader is what I'd call a unique celebration model. This one Is a regular marine with a crux terminatus and some ropes. Zzzzzzz...
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Primaris Store Anniversary Only model - over a hundred expressions of interest, 61 bought in total for my group.
This one? Perhaps a couple of completest weirdos asking me to grab them one.
Speaks volumes really. Nice enough model, but not for a big bash thing.
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Post by: Elbows
It is curious though, if a Primaris has a crux terminatus -- that does mean they're qualified and approved to wear terminator armour. That means we may actually get a readl Primaris terminator (instead of just some fellas in Gravis armour w/ extra guns).
So that's something?
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Post by: zerosignal
What a load of pish.
Thanks GeeDerps. Back to your old ways, I see...
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Post by: DaemonJellybaby
Well its a nice enough model, but massively underwhelming for a 30th anniversary piece. Its really just an update of the I love my bolter pose.
Now, if it had been included as a part of an updated 'Armour Through the Ages' box, or a 'Factions of 40k' box, that would have been really cool.
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Post by: Yodhrin
DaemonJellybaby wrote:Well its a nice enough model, but massively underwhelming for a 30th anniversary piece. Its really just an update of the I love my bolter pose.
Now, if it had been included as a part of an updated 'Armour Through the Ages' box, or a 'Factions of 40k' box, that would have been really cool.
Hell, they could have put this out as a clampack Primaris Lieutenant and most folk would be perfectly happy with it. It's not like the model is objectively garbo-trash or anything, as you say it's just hilariously underwhelming for a super-special-snowflake release, and more than that ever so slightly tone-deaf that they're trying to pass this nuMarine model off as a celebration of 30 years of 40K.
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Post by: MajorTom11
What an insanely uninspired limited edition model. Equivalent of making a pre-primaris tac marine special edition by adding a special belt pouch and that's it.
Doesn't make me mad, just confused as to what they were thinking lol...
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Post by: Oaka
I thought it was the marine on the codex cover, but it isn't.
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Post by: warboss
The japanese gashapon marines have a more interesting pose that this guy. I'd have preferred strongly instead to get the captain fogged out in the back instead for the 30th.
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Post by: WarbossDakka
That's a 20 minute lunchtime job for a designer. Poor show.
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Post by: General Kroll
I get the feeling there will be A LOT of these left on shelves.
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Post by: Polonius
H.B.M.C. wrote: Polonius wrote:I like it. Not sure I like it enough to drop 35 bucks on though.
But do you like it as the miniature chosen to celebrate the 30th anniversary of 40K?
I don't really attach a lot of sentimentality towards stuff like that. It's not what I would have picked, but in a way I'm glad they didn't go with an obvious "hero figure that's also an homage to a classic mini and/or art." It's certainly bland, but if the price point is ever low enough, I'll buy one as a sarge.
Yeah, it's an odd choice for a special model.
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Post by: Voss
Kid_Kyoto wrote:The move to plastics may be handicapping GW's ability to do special models.
No. Several of the single model plastic kits are extremely well done. Overly expensive, but well done. Take, for example, the sanguinary priest from a few years back- absolutely fantastic plastic model, but fairly niche as far as sales go [single subfaction model that no one needs lots of]
This may be a case of someone taking down a model that already was planned and christening it an anniversary model because plastics take so much longer to prepare.
Everything they produce is planned and prepared in advance, with rather long lead times. That they would fail to plan for this one is not credible.
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Post by: Mr Morden
In honour of the original 40k book - if the Primaris had at least been painted as a Crimson Fist that would have been nice.
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Post by: puma713
Blandhammer 40k. In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only mediocrity.
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Post by: Formosa
£10 and ill buy one, any more and ill pass
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Post by: General Kroll
Lol, even it was free I'd think twice about making the trip to my local gw for this.
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Post by: daedalus
You're more generous than I would be. I spent $15 on the 3 pack of snapfit Primaris so that I could make some characters out of them. I would not pay more than $5/model for what looks like a monopose Primaris at this point, and probably won't buy any more of them at this point for any amount of money.
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Post by: Accolade
The great thing about marines (just calling them marines at this point since they are the future of the range) is that there are so many variants that there is no need to pick up an expensive one-off. This guy looks fine, but looks more like a promo item for the release of the Primaris rather than the celebration miniature for the last 30 years.
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Post by: daedalus
I was pretty firmly in the "oh stop freaking out about primaris" camp, but it does seem like they're memory holing oldmarines pretty hard.
Oh well, once oldmarines stop existing, all my oldmarines become marines. In fact, I might cut down those three Primaris I got to be the same scale as the others.
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Post by: insaniak
Bahaha, 'Old-scaling Primaris Marines'... Now there's a project for the serious modeller
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Post by: Blackie
Why selling a single model when GW has released the 10 man box less than two months ago? Oh well, wait a second, I got it: this guy is supposed to be a special dude.... nah, it's just a standard primaris with the helmet painted in red.
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Post by: Alpharius
I think that's pretty much a guaranteed pass for you then!
No way this thing is that 'cheap' - though it should be even cheaper.
Maybe even free with a WD purchase too!
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Post by: totalfailure
While acknowledging 30 years is not a number people usually go crazy celebrating over, this seems like a pretty bland effort overall. Especially compared to the 25th anniversary piece, and even last years 30 years of Space Marines mini. I might pick one up if the opportunity comes, but I won't cry over it if I never see one.
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Post by: Azazelx
Crimson wrote:Super meh. Sure, it looks good, but so do all intercessors, so this is completely unnoteworthy. I understand that they wanted to do a primaris marine, but they should have made a primarised version of some classic model or space marine art. Connecting eras like that would have made much more sense as 30 years celebration model.
Completely agreed with this. I like the Primaris models, but this guy is so unspectacular it's almost spectacular. Automatically Appended Next Post: Tannhauser42 wrote:Funny how a limited edition model that isn't covered in skulls is considered bland.
It's not about that - it's that it looks so unremarkable that it could have come from the starter boxed set.
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Post by: Henri DeVanth
My gods how uninspiring... The most unspecial of all special editions I can remember. Pass.
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Post by: TheCustomLime
They could have done almost anything else and it would've looked better. They could've had him firing off his boltrifle with one hand while giving commands with the other. They could've had him in the process of reloading his rifle. They could've had him sling his boltrifle and checking his wrist computer. Hell, they could've had the guy stepping over a dead chaos marine with his sword at the ready.
Why they chose this pose is beyond me. It's such a stock marine pose I want to fall asleep looking at it.
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Post by: Fenrir Kitsune
What's that model got to do with the 30th anniversary? It's just a marine?
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Post by: Primark G
I like the model.
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Post by: NivlacSupreme
A lot of us like the model. I don't like the fact that this is the limited edition 30th anniversary thing.
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Post by: daedalus
NivlacSupreme wrote:
A lot of us like the model. I don't like the fact that this is the limited edition 30th anniversary thing.
Yeah, it's not that there's anything wrong with the model. It's that I can't tell the difference between it and the 20 other marines sitting on my desk other than that it's colored blue instead of green.
Oh man, you know what would have been really cool? A beakie primaris! That is to say a space marine in beakie armor, but primaris scale. I'm not really into primaris, and I don't go out of my way to collect beakies, but man, I'd have bought at least one of those for the novelty.
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Post by: deleted20250424
daedalus wrote: NivlacSupreme wrote:
A lot of us like the model. I don't like the fact that this is the limited edition 30th anniversary thing.
Yeah, it's not that there's anything wrong with the model. It's that I can't tell the difference between it and the 20 other marines sitting on my desk other than that it's colored blue instead of green.
Oh man, you know what would have been really cool? A beakie primaris! That is to say a space marine in beakie armor, but primaris scale. I'm not really into primaris, and I don't go out of my way to collect beakies, but man, I'd have bought at least one of those for the novelty.
The heads are the same size as current marines.
If you want a beaky primaris, give it a beaky helmet.
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Post by: daedalus
TalonZahn wrote:
The heads are the same size as current marines.
If you want a beaky primaris, give it a beaky helmet.
Good to know, but I thought the beakies all had a very plain, simple armor too. Like, with the studded shoulderpad? Maybe I'm just inventing something in my head that wasn't ever actually there?
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Post by: Desubot
daedalus wrote: TalonZahn wrote:
The heads are the same size as current marines.
If you want a beaky primaris, give it a beaky helmet.
Good to know, but I thought the beakies all had a very plain, simple armor too. Like, with the studded shoulderpad? Maybe I'm just inventing something in my head that wasn't ever actually there?
Mk6 corvus is the one with no lipped shoulder pads no knee pads and the cables on the outside.
beakys look REALLY good on primarus marines btw.
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Post by: Adeptus Doritos
What a lazy model. I can't believe this made it into some powerpoint slide at a company meeting.
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Post by: Fafnir
It'd be some fantastic to release something like a Rogue Trader to celebrate the 30th anniversary of 40k. Or some reimagining of an iconic piece of artwork or miniature.
Instead... I'm going to forget about this model as soon as I hit the 'submit' button.
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Post by: plastictrees
He has the same birthday as GW, and finds all these comments very hurtful.
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Post by: spiralingcadaver
daedalus wrote: I thought the beakies all had a very plain, simple armor too. Like, with the studded shoulderpad? Maybe I'm just inventing something in my head that wasn't ever actually there?
Yeah, the most recent generation of beakies are based on RT, meaning 3 tubes on the chest in a W converging, one studded shoulder and neither with trim, generally not a ton of detailing.
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Post by: Dreadclaw69
I honestly thought that this was a collectible piece, like GW used to do with Werda, rather than an actual miniature for gaming.
There were infinitely better choices for a 30th anniversary miniature. We have so many seminal pieces of art from the last three decades which could have been used instead, a re-release of classic figures, or a Primaris re-imagining of a classic miniature.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
As has been established, it is a Primaris re-imagining of a classic miniature.
This one.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Fafnir wrote:It'd be some fantastic to release something like a Rogue Trader to celebrate the 30th anniversary of 40k. Or some reimagining of an iconic piece of artwork or miniature.
Instead... I'm going to forget about this model as soon as I hit the 'submit' button.
By the power vested in me I declare this to be the official 30th anniversary model...
http://knightmareminiatures.com/product/space-raider-original#prettyPhoto
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Post by: IFC_Casting
Echoing others here, but damn, this is bland.
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Post by: Fafnir
I'd be okay with this. Old and grungy as it may be, it at least has some personality.
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Post by: Rolsheen
30 years of 40k and this is the best GW can come up with? An anniversary model should be more imposing, not look like it's taken 5 minutes and a quick rummage in a bits box to throw together .
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Post by: spiralingcadaver
Yeah, there are plenty of classic codex covers to update and iconic characters that either have never gotten models or only gotten those pretty embarrassingly ugly LE BL ones.
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Post by: BrianDavion
this is kinda bland, and I definatly feel myself asking "is this it?" if it was part of a "Armor through the ages" set that'd be awesome but alone it's kinda bland, still if this is cheap eneugh I could see it being alright, if you got one of those demonstration Primaris Marines, and a 3 pack of the push to fit ones, this sergent would round out a squad nicely
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Post by: aracersss
I like the new model
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Post by: Insectum7
They should have done a cool inquisitor model or something.
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Post by: Nightlord1987
Damn. this does actually coincide with my 30th... That's how they get cha!
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
It's old school looking but a new model. Based on 80s art for a Rogue Trader from the first Chapter Approved book.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/688008.page
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Post by: IFC_Casting
It would have been cool to see a classic like Calgar primaritized for the 30th.
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Post by: Bonegrinder
There's nothing at first glance to make him stand out from any other Intercessor, hardly fitting for a anniversary model.
I find it distracting that his helmet is red from the front and grey from the back.
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Post by: BrianDavion
apparently they missed a spot when they painted it?
only thing that stands out is the sword in the scabbard.
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Post by: schoon
Hardly what I'd call inspiring, but decent enough.
I'll get one to add some variety.
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Post by: FrothingMuppet
This is what should have been on the WD cover for launch of 8th or Codex Marines. They had two opportunities to really use WD to its fullest like they did on relaunch and like they used to. Instead the WD were more reversion back to catalogue (they even ran an letter to the editor about that), with the option to purchase another magazine that had a Primaris on the front, and then the put out this bland chap as an 'anniversary' model. WHFB 25th anniversary got the awesome Harry the Hammer. They did cool retro Space Marine last year, and the Rogue Trader cover marine the prior one. This is quite a let down in comparison.
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Post by: gianlucafiorentini123
I think the from behind shot may be from the un-helmeted version.
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Post by: Messiah
Oh, yes. This will go great in my Dark Eldar army.
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Post by: Fictional
Id rather have seen a new version of something like this http://solegends.com/citrt2/rt070121LemanRuss/index.htm instead, but ho hum.
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Post by: Desubot
Bonegrinder wrote:There's nothing at first glance to make him stand out from any other Intercessor, hardly fitting for a anniversary model.
I find it distracting that his helmet is red from the front and grey from the back.
90% sure that second picture is with a bare head. and the guy just has grey hair.
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Post by: tyrannosaurus
I think it's the perfect model to celebrate 30 years of disappointment and squandered potential.
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Post by: Tarthenal
Is that formless blob in the center of his forehead meant to be a skull?
Think Duncan might have to have words with the paint crew about thining paints. "Two thin coats are better than one thick one!"
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Post by: FabricatorGeneralMike
Wow, whoever suggested this as the 30th anniversary model should be fired. As it was said before they should of taken a existing named marine and primarised him up.... but they are probley going to do that anyways so that's out the window. They could of made it a non-marine for the...buahahhaha sorry, I don't know what came over me there. A non-marine could of been amazingly awesome but yeah that's not happening.
I hope this isn't plastic and is finecrap so they can turf the mold and start over again. If it's plastic...well I hope they give him away in store as a walk in model and make another model.
Or you know they could of let FW do the model and knock it out of the park like they almost always do......
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Post by: Hanskrampf
Maybe they simply forgot and someone had to whip the render out in like a day?
Or it's a free miniature with the White Dwarf?
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Post by: Azazelx
If it's free with WD, then it's disappointing but acceptable.
If it's a $20-30-40 clampack then lollerskates.
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Post by: Carlovonsexron
The biggest pity is that it wouldn't take much to make the model so much better- a helmet crest and some fancy pauldrons alone would probably do wonders.
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Post by: Pete Melvin
Tarthenal wrote:Is that formless blob in the center of his forehead meant to be a skull?
Think Duncan might have to have words with the paint crew about thining paints. "Two thin coats are better than one thick one!"
His right leg (our left) is covered in fingerprints as well. The whole thing from model to paintjob just smacks of laziness.
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Post by: Azazelx
To be fair, people are being hyper-critical about tiny details on the paintjob on what amounts to a model photo that's been expanded to about 20x its actual scale.
The Fingerprints may or may not actually be fingerprints (3d print artifacts?) and could easily be invisible on the actual model at normal size.
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Post by: insaniak
Azazelx wrote:To be fair, people are being hyper-critical about tiny details on the paintjob on what amounts to a model photo that's been expanded to about 20x its actual scale.
The Fingerprints may or may not actually be fingerprints (3d print artifacts?) and could easily be invisible on the actual model at normal size.
Indeed, that and the comment about someone needing to be fired are getting a little over the top.
It can be bad purely because it's boring. We don't have to turn it into a bigger thing that it really is.
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