I doubt you'll get ramps because they went with a rather absurd 5" height for their levels...meaning a ramp would be 14-16" just to let models stand on it without falling over. They could use several turning versions but they'd cost as much as the normal pieces.
Ooo thanks for the pic. Knew I should have checked the war-com site. $660 usd isn’t cheap, but that’s really a big bundle of terrain. The box it comes in must be gigantic
Verviedi wrote: I want a set of just a crapload of Sector Mechanicus platforms, for scaffolding. No bulby things, or furnaces, just the platforms and supports.
GW does sell those but you might want to resist doing it that way. Instead, buy this big set and see if you can trade away your "bulby things" for more space corridors and... yea, let's not go there.
Anyway, I did a quick survey of the image in the WD and it seems to break down like this:
Edit: I originally thought that the Stack tower - http://i.imgur.com/JUTu4Ur.jpg did not seem to be included in this set. HBMC spotted a piece that comes from that sprue so I think it is safe to assume there is at least one in the set. That brings the sprue estimate to 11 which is an odd number to put in a box. I think there might be only one of the Straight platforms or perhaps as vegeta365 suggests only one of the Octagon platforms although I'm 99% certain there are two in that model pictured.
Okay. Given that the small terrain packs value the sprues at $25 USD each and the large ones were four sprues for $75 USD (buy three get one free) this new pack seems to be a stupendous value with 10 sprues at a $115 (or $11.50 per sprue).
Verviedi wrote: I want a set of just a crapload of Sector Mechanicus platforms, for scaffolding. No bulby things, or furnaces, just the platforms and supports.
GW does sell those but you might want to resist doing it that way. Instead, buy this big set and see if you can trade away your "bulby things" for more space corridors and... yea, let's not go there.
Anyway, I did a quick survey of the image in the WD and it seems to break down like this:
I noticed that one sprue, Stack tower - http://i.imgur.com/JUTu4Ur.jpg did not seem to be included in this set. That's too bad because it's the one with the corner pipe sections. :(
Okay. Given that the small terrain packs value the sprues at $25 USD each and the large ones were four sprues for $75 USD (buy three get one free) this new pack seems to be a stupendous value with 10 sprues at a $115 (or $11.50 per sprue).
Damn. There goes my Christmas budget.
Anyone see anything I missed?
I hope you are correct, and I don’t have the white dwarf yet, only the image shown here, but I do own a lot of these kits and to me it looks like there is only 8 sprues. I believe there is 1 stack tower on the bottom floor at the back and think there is only 1 (not 2) arches. But I think there is only 2 octagon sections not 4. So 8 sprues not 10. 8 sprues for £75 is still good vs the £90 you would pay for 2 of the big current sets. However one of the bigger sets is only £35 not £45 like the other 2 so it depends which sprues you would like. This set has none of the straights which the £35 set does have. I find the straights very important, so would always want many of these. A mix of this set and the £35 set is what I would have bought had I not already invested so much into a boards worth. I’m only now finishing my board and may need a big more. I should know soon just in time to decide if I want one (or two). Damn you GW.
I’m case people aren’t aware, most of these sets are currently out of stock for LGS at the moment and not back in stock until mid November. I had assumed due to repackaging for Necromunda but perhaps they had just been behind on casting them and now gearing up to do loads in time for Necromunda?
The terrain bundle (prom refinery) is not cutting it for me. Too expensive for what you get. I'd like to see a 500-600 bundle a la fortress with these kits. I would be all over it.
That citadel box has
84 sprues making
8 skull keeps
2 malfetic gates
8 walls
4 sets of stairs
4 balconies
and finaly 8 walkways
£400 uk/$660 us.
(These numbers direct from the new dwarf)
It is a MASSIVE amount of terrain.
It is. I have a full ring of the Skull Fortress stuff, but not nearly as many towers (I believe I have 4). I have more gates as well.
Breotan wrote: I noticed that one sprue, Stack tower - http://i.imgur.com/JUTu4Ur.jpg did not seem to be included in this set. That's too bad because it's the one with the corner pipe sections. :(
Shame that, as it's the most useful sprue out of all of them.
Breotan wrote: I noticed that one sprue, Stack tower - http://i.imgur.com/JUTu4Ur.jpg did not seem to be included in this set. That's too bad because it's the one with the corner pipe sections. :(
On second thought we might be wrong.
I noticed something on the ground floor, under the main superstructure, behind the skull claw thingy.
Breotan wrote: I noticed that one sprue, Stack tower - http://i.imgur.com/JUTu4Ur.jpg did not seem to be included in this set. That's too bad because it's the one with the corner pipe sections. :(
On second thought we might be wrong.
I noticed something on the ground floor, under the main superstructure, behind the skull claw thingy.
Hey, don’t pull me into this ‘we’. A few posts above I said one exists and there is only one set of arches. It also only has 2 sprues it hexagons not 4. So 8 sprues I believe not 10. It’s still a good deal for £70 instead of £90. It is effectively 2 of one of the current sets but has a couple of sprues that are different.
Breotan wrote: I noticed that one sprue, Stack tower - http://i.imgur.com/JUTu4Ur.jpg did not seem to be included in this set. That's too bad because it's the one with the corner pipe sections. :(
On second thought we might be wrong.
I noticed something on the ground floor, under the main superstructure, behind the skull claw thingy.
I see that now. I also mis-posted about the number of octagon sprues, having two lines for it. The second line was supposed to read: 2x Straight platform - http://i.imgur.com/slmseeJ.jpg and I have corrected it in my original post.
If there is a Stack Tower sprue then there may only be one Straight platform sprue. Or there may be two of everything because we can't see what's on the back side of this thing.
Regardless, this is still an amazing deal for the money and I'll definitely be getting a few.
Got my WD in hand, as I'm sure plenty of you guys do too...
There's a Christmas catalogue showing off collections of terrain and such as has already been mentioned, I wonder if this means that there are no army deals to be had this year?
I had my fingers crossed for an excuse to give the Khadron Overlords a go! ¬_¬
Scrub wrote: Got my WD in hand, as I'm sure plenty of you guys do too...
There's a Christmas catalogue showing off collections of terrain and such as has already been mentioned, I wonder if this means that there are no army deals to be had this year?
I had my fingers crossed for an excuse to give the Khadron Overlords a go! ¬_¬
I was counting on same thing Last year's battleforces were leaked mid November, so hopefully there's still time. We got terrain and paint bundles, would be a shame to not get any with actual minis
Terrain and paint are always great, though II agree that mini deals are the cherry on top!
I do wonder if capacity has been taken for product such as Blood Bowl, Necromunda and the other boxed games (Calth etc) combined with the rumours that GW are struggling with demand in producing product at the factory might mean what we've seen so far is what we get.
I'm really excited for the new terrain. might hold off on some SM stuff to scratch the itch for new terrain. After finishing my Armies on Parade board, I kinda don't want to go straight back to minis.
Necromunda is also kinda calling me back, so I'm feeling like kitbashing some that I can use for it and 40k.
Unless some really cool scheiss comes out for SM, (can't afford astreaus currently)
Good thing I managed to restrain myself from buying anything for the past month, so I can justify getting some of this. Still have a lot of terrain to paint though (2 imperial sectors, 1 bastion, 1 landing pad, 1 fortress of redemption), but I don't think I can restrain myself from buying some nice terrain for Christmas.
Verviedi wrote: I want a set of just a crapload of Sector Mechanicus platforms, for scaffolding. No bulby things, or furnaces, just the platforms and supports.
GW does sell those but you might want to resist doing it that way. Instead, buy this big set and see if you can trade away your "bulby things" for more space corridors and... yea, let's not go there.
Anyway, I did a quick survey of the image in the WD and it seems to break down like this:
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Isn't this approximately what was included in the Shadow War Armageddon main set?
Verviedi wrote: I want a set of just a crapload of Sector Mechanicus platforms, for scaffolding. No bulby things, or furnaces, just the platforms and supports.
GW does sell those but you might want to resist doing it that way. Instead, buy this big set and see if you can trade away your "bulby things" for more space corridors and... yea, let's not go there.
Anyway, I did a quick survey of the image in the WD and it seems to break down like this:
snip
Isn't this approximately what was included in the Shadow War Armageddon main set?
I'd like to know also. If that's the case, it's a better deal than I initially thought.
Verviedi wrote: I want a set of just a crapload of Sector Mechanicus platforms, for scaffolding. No bulby things, or furnaces, just the platforms and supports.
GW does sell those but you might want to resist doing it that way. Instead, buy this big set and see if you can trade away your "bulby things" for more space corridors and... yea, let's not go there.
Anyway, I did a quick survey of the image in the WD and it seems to break down like this:
snip
Isn't this approximately what was included in the Shadow War Armageddon main set?
I'd like to know also. If that's the case, it's a better deal than I initially thought.
If it isn't, it's damned close and at a better price.
kestral wrote: Nice to see the Moon base ruins out as "Ryza pattern Ruins".
Is there any clarity on what is actually in this box? The pictures on the Games Workshop site for the STC Ryza-Pattern Ruins is inconclusive - the description says " 4 large ruined wall sections, 2 each of 2 unique designs ... There are also 2 access hatches, 6 barricades and 2 ammo crates" and the box cover certainly shows 4 ruined walls, but one of the other photographs on the web page shows the long wall section with the door and fan, which is not on the box cover (as far as one can tell from the front and side edge shown). The three different 'barricades' come from the three different Moon base sprues. So which part of the description is wrong? 4 Ruined walls or 6 barricades? (Or did they re-do the sprues?)
To get 2 ammo crates 2 hatches and 6 barricades you would need to get 2 each of the sprues.
but then that would give 8 larger wall sections not the 4 listed. I doubt that they recut the sprue already the picture and description don't add up to the sprue contents. I guess we'll have to wait and see when someone has it in hand to confirm. For the price I'd have expected just the 3 sprues no duplicates.
I really like this scenery but the price point is dissapointing. For the same cost you can get one of their other imperial sector terrain boxes which, from my eyeballing, seems to come with more terrain overall.
You mean basilica adminostrdasfag? one of the sprue are only for floor and lamp so the STC ryza ruin might form a longer wall. Same for Sanctum Imperialis
Also you need glue for that one, the new STC one stand on its own.
Yes, the third sprue is just catwalks and lamps and such, but you get all that for free in comparison - and the sprue seems more "filled out" in the imperial sector terrain than the ryza ruins. Or am I just judging it wrong?
Those Ryza-pattern ruins are really tempting just because of how cheap they are.
...But does anyone else feel like they're a little lacklustre, gameplay-wise? I can't help but feel like it would be nicer if we got a similarly sized/priced terrain set that did more to block LOS since that seems to be much more important for terrain in the current edition.
Kawauso wrote: Those Ryza-pattern ruins are really tempting just because of how cheap they are.
...But does anyone else feel like they're a little lacklustre, gameplay-wise?
I'm using mine as scatter terrain in my Necromunda games. The main terrain will come from the Sector Mechanicus stuff. One box (two of each sprue) looks to be fine for that.
I'm guessing that "large wall section" means more than one component. I.e. An 'L' shaped section made of two or more peices. I presume that they need a perpendicular peice to be stable.
I'll probably pick up a load of the Ryza pattern ruins, as it will be good scatter terrain for the board I'm using, and not take up huge amounts of space, to create a more "sub-urban" workers camp than a full on industrial zone.
It also helps that my group uses bigger terrain as a center piece, so smaller ruins will allow it to stand out more without the board getting too cluttered making movement a bit of a chore...
I'm curious to see if those doors fit in with FW's Zone Mortalis terrain. Our FLGS has a full set of it, so if they fit, finally some (cheap) doors for the set.
BrookM wrote: I'm curious to see if those doors fit in with FW's Zone Mortalis terrain. Our FLGS has a full set of it, so if they fit, finally some (cheap) doors for the set.
Finally, all the terrain from the Necromunda: Underhive core set will be available separately. This includes barricades, bulkhead doors, and objectives, and while these have been designed to make adding cover to your Necromunda tables easy, they’ll also be great for Warhammer 40,000 players. The bulkhead doors even fit Forge World’s Zone Mortalis tiles!
notprop wrote: I'm guessing that "large wall section" means more than one component. I.e. An 'L' shaped section made of two or more peices. I presume that they need a perpendicular peice to be stable.
From the previous thread about a lunar base playing board and terrain...
Spoiler:
Breotan wrote: I just wanted to put up some quick pictures of the terrain in comparison to the Shadow War Armageddon stuff so everyone can get a good idea on how well they look on the table together.
First is a shot of two terrain pieces side by side so you can get a good idea on size and theme. The Klaisus terrain is not designed to integrate with the SW:A stuff but visually it works as there are elements that match the SW:A support structure pieces as well as the pipes.
Next, I stacked two Klaisus pieces and put them next to the SW:A piece. They do not match vertically and so trying to make a large building won't fit. The Klaisus is far better suited as scatter terrain in a larger SW:A setting than trying to "meld" both into a single terrain model.
Lastly, there is one bit of concern. As you see there are tight corners formed when you assemble the Klaisus buildings. This can be a bit troublesome for painting so I suggest you paint each item separately and then assemble after. You'll have a much easier time and your brush will thank you.
Lastly, one real drawback is the way the terrain is cut. The pieces fit together via slots like the old cardboard buildings. BUT... the two larger buildings have their slots cut reverse of the four smaller ones. This means you are limited in how you can assemble things. An unnecessary limitation, in my opinion, and one that I really wish they'd not continue with future releases.
I'm gonna have to see an in boxing before I get this set. The box and images on gamesworkshops site seem misleading about the contents - and it doesn't seem worth it for just the stuff on the box cover.
rollawaythestone wrote: I'm gonna have to see an in boxing before I get this set. The box and images on gamesworkshops site seem misleading about the contents - and it doesn't seem worth it for just the stuff on the box cover.
Discription: In it, you’ll find 4 detailed ruined wall sections, 2 each of 2 unique designs, which slot together quickly and easily with no glue required. There are also 2 access hatches and 4 barricades.
Looks like GW has updated the page. Hopefully the remaining ruins will be released separately.
And you get 2 each of the other 2 as that matches the box cover and description contents. But this image shouldn't be there as it's of the above sprue.
seems odd to make a third sprue and then not use it I guess it's the incentive to buy the moonbase.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Well now they're not worth the price they're asking.
Yeah, that's what i'm thinking. For the same price, you can get more ruins out of any of the imperial sector terrain kits than you can for these ruins.
GW does sell those but you might want to resist doing it that way. Instead, buy this big set and see if you can trade away your "bulby things" for more space corridors and... yea, let's not go there.
Anyway, I did a quick survey of the image in the WD and it seems to break down like this:
Edit: I originally thought that the Stack tower - http://i.imgur.com/JUTu4Ur.jpg did not seem to be included in this set. HBMC spotted a piece that comes from that sprue so I think it is safe to assume there is at least one in the set. That brings the sprue estimate to 11 which is an odd number to put in a box. I think there might be only one of the Straight platforms or perhaps as vegeta365 suggests only one of the Octagon platforms although I'm 99% certain there are two in that model pictured.
Okay. Given that the small terrain packs value the sprues at $25 USD each and the large ones were four sprues for $75 USD (buy three get one free) this new pack seems to be a stupendous value with 10 sprues at a $115 (or $11.50 per sprue).
Damn. There goes my Christmas budget.
Anyone see anything I missed?
I am looking at the picture in the magazine and I can't account for all of the sprues that you listed. Are there other photos out there of the Refinery?
Specifically:
* I only see 4 arch pieces in the pic. While it would be misleading of them to weight them to one side and not support the sides evenly, I only see 4 arches.
* Straight sprues - I don't see these in the pic anywhere. Where is this information gathered?
* Octagons - I technically cannot pick the flat sections out, but I do see the one cable section on the bottom left and can count 2 ladder pieces from that sprue, with any others possibly from the Arch sprue.
* I do see 4 flatter railing/barricade pieces, which appear one each on the Octagon and Angle sprues, but I would lean towards there being 4 angle sprues based on the positioning of the rails on the far side of the image.
I believe 2 xOctagons to serve as the areas where the Stack dome and furnace attach to each other and to the Angled platforms.
I'm not convinced on the straight sprues either. But it does appear to wrap around which would imply 4 x Angled sprues!
I do believe there's 2 arch sprues simply because there's no way the thing would hold up imho. the thing is even at 8 sprues it's a great value. I'm still betting on 10.
My bet is 4 x Angled, 2 x Octagon, 2 x Arch, 1 x Furnace, 1 x Stack Dome, 1 Stack Tower.
It does look like 4 angled, which would be awesome.
I'm thinking only one Arch. The sprue has 4 of them on there, and there's a picture in the WD of that from the side and it doesn't have another four on the other side.
judgedoug wrote: I believe 2 xOctagons to serve as the areas where the Stack dome and furnace attach to each other and to the Angled platforms.
I'm not convinced on the straight sprues either. But it does appear to wrap around which would imply 4 x Angled sprues!
I do believe there's 2 arch sprues simply because there's no way the thing would hold up imho. the thing is even at 8 sprues it's a great value. I'm still betting on 10.
My bet is 4 x Angled, 2 x Octagon, 2 x Arch, 1 x Furnace, 1 x Stack Dome, 1 Stack Tower.
At 10 or 11 it is still a fantastic deal, I just need to determine how much in debt I go for these.
But some precision about the scenery incoming for christmas (ruins, plasma generator, plasma regulator).
They worked very hard on the modularity with the Mechanicus sector. So they are compatible, pipe are the same height, 2 panels cover to fix on the coursives, generators lot of stuff.
Tbh it's quite hard to retranscrit this discussion, they are very fun but it's a bit chaotic !
Q/A :
-An extra topper for the painting handle is planned i guess.
-All scenery box for 40k have rules and all older scenery will be update to 8th
-You can stack power pipe on top of each other.
-Dragondais is out of stock (i heard right ?
I think you are correct. That explains why there are only two big skulls in the picture (only 2 angled sprues) and that picture shows that back edge much better. There are only 4 ladders in the pic and I thought they had weird placement, but they might be attached to the Octagon pieces along the outside of the furnace.
As I look at these pictures again, I'm not so sure those platforms wrap all the way around. We could be looking at a single arches sprue simply because there is not enough weight on the back side which needs to be supported.
The more I look at it, the more it looks like eight sprues instead of the ten I originally thought.
Assemble a Promethium Refinery – an awesome and atmospheric piece of scenery for use in games of Warhammer 40,000 – with this set of components. It includes:
- A central silo, which can be modelled open or closed;
- 2 sets of platforms, including lots of ladders, guard rails and pulleys, for constructing multi-level pieces;
- 2 sets of walkways, which too include pulleys and guard rails for adding detail;
- A set of supporting structures used to hold the whole set in place;
- A set of 2 frames making up an Alchomite Stack, featuring a central dome and several chimneys.
These components can of course be assembled in any way you see fit, being completely modular in nature – perfect for games of Necromunda: Gang War!
12 pipes;
- 4 control points;
- 8 plasma fusion batteries that can be fitted into the control points – these slide in and out without glue, offering a great narrative opportunity;
- 32 braces for the pipes;
- 4 short, broken pipe sections;
- 8 short, curved pipe sections;
- 4 short end pipes.
Certain things don't add up about the new terrain sets.
Starting with the Plasma Regulator:
This picture shows the two barricade pieces are different, but the sprue shows one design:
So that's both sides of it in that top picture, right?
Except the top left of this pic shows the back of that piece:
So where is that other barricade coming from? The actual body of the plasma regulators are different. They hare different pipes/cables, and the sprue shows two detailed Skull-Cog icons yet one of the regulators has a flatter more bland cap on one side. In fact, just look at it... you could not put those two sides on the sprue we see together and actually make a regulator. They're 'facing' the same direction. One has to mirror the other.
I submit that this kit is not two of the same sprue but in fact two different (and very similar) sprues, on of which is not shown on the GW website.
Next conundrum:
This kit includes the following components, fully compatible with all Sector Mechanicus kits:
- 12 pipes; - 4 control points; - 8 plasma fusion batteries that can be fitted into the control points – these slide in and out without glue, offering a great narrative opportunity; - 32 braces for the pipes; - 4 short, broken pipe sections; - 8 short, curved pipe sections; - 4 short end pipes.
That's double what this picture shows:
You would need four of this sprue to get the 8 curved pipes, broken pipes, end pipes and fusion batters and so on. The picture shows half that amount.
Also, 32 braces:
32 doesn't divide by 6.
And to get 12 pipes you'd need four of that first sprue, and 4 of this second sprue, which would give you 24 braces, not 32.
Also this picture shows 14 braces. 6 doesn't divide into 14 either.
Going by the Ryza Ruins error it was the picture that was correct as that's what's on the box so I'd say it's 2 of each sprue, someone has doubled the contents I can't explain the 32 braces half would be 16 but 2 sprues would only give 12.
I suspect the regulators are painted resins with either plastic platforms from the other kits or resin pieces that was done before the actual production plastic was finalised and produced.
I've E-mailed GW for clarification. I also added in the question that the latest WD says the Hive Shield set has plasma regulators, yet the box picture/website shows promethium relays.
There's definitely a sprue not shown on the Plasma Regulators, it's only got one side of the tower unless there solid resin.
The Refinery is :-
Dome sprue x1
Chimney sprue x1
Octagon sprue x2
Cylinder sprue x1
Curved Walkway sprue x2
Supports sprue x1
Rolsheen wrote: There's definitely a sprue not shown on the Plasma Regulators, it's only got one side of the tower unless there solid resin.
Hmmm you're right now that I look at it both sides are facing the same direction so there must be a second sprue not shown for the other sides that would explain the different guard rails.
I went ahead and ordered 2 Regulators and 2 sets of conduits I'm only expecting 6 pipes in each (half the listed contents) and if it's 12 happy days. I have a pair of generators somewhere.
Probably worth saving a screen capture/photo of any of these terrain packs with potentially wrong photos/descriptions at the time you order
then if they arrive with a less favourable set of contents than the description or photo suggested you can try having a moan at GW and customer services might well send you a sprue or two to provide you with what they'd advertised (at the time)
no guarantees but if you're ordering anyway as it sound like a lot are worth a try
Well I got an answer from GW regarding the contents of the new terrain packs.
The short answer: They don't know.
They long answer: They don't know... yet!
Other than the Shield thingy bundle, which was advertised incorrectly in WD (it's Promethium Pipes, not the new Plasma Conduits) they're not sure about how many pipes you get in the Plasma Conduit kit and they don't know about the sprues in the Plasma Regulator kit (other than there are 2, which we already know).
H.B.M.C. wrote: Well I got an answer from GW regarding the contents of the new terrain packs.
The short answer: They don't know.
They long answer: They don't know... yet!
Other than the Shield thingy bundle, which was advertised incorrectly in WD (it's Promethium Pipes, not the new Plasma Conduits) they're not sure about how many pipes you get in the Plasma Conduit kit and they don't know about the sprues in the Plasma Regulator kit (other than there are 2, which we already know).
So... we've really learnt nothing.
How in the everloving feth can GW not know what are in GW kits? Can they not just open one of the damn boxes and look? Or at the very least, stumble down the corridor to the office of one of the people involved in actually making or packaging the kits and ask?
I really hope someone will do an Unboxing of the Ryza ruins soon, as the description and picture fiasco is currently keeping me from dropping some money on them if it's an inferior deal :(
Dr. Mills wrote: I really hope someone will do an Unboxing of the Ryza ruins soon, as the description and picture fiasco is currently keeping me from dropping some money on them if it's an inferior deal :(
Me too. But I think there were widespread GW warehouse issues this weekend with the new releases. My local GW only got Saturdays releases today and Element Games did not get their Friday delivery until, I believe, today. No idea what happened but I am not sure how many of the new kits from last Saturday are out in the wild yet, in the UK at least. That is why a lot of the new things such as the Ryza ruins, tape measure etc were still in the pre order section of the GW website on Saturday.
Dr. Mills wrote: I really hope someone will do an Unboxing of the Ryza ruins soon, as the description and picture fiasco is currently keeping me from dropping some money on them if it's an inferior deal :(
The store description had been updated, What you see on the box cover is exactly what you'll get, you get 2 set of 2/3 sprue from the moonbase, what you don't get is the sprue with the crate and the complete wall.
Really regret spend 1 hour run to a GW store just to pre-order this... could've order the Necromunda terrain instead.
H.B.M.C. wrote: ...and they don't know about the sprues in the Plasma Regulator kit (other than there are 2, which we already know).
From the picture and the way the sprue is layed out, we can safely assume the Plasma Regulator kit has only two sprues, especially given the low price.
I would be suprised if the Plasma Conduit kit had more than four sprues.
ListenToMeWarriors wrote: Some good investigative work going on here, insane that GW do not seem to know the contents nor their own kits, especially the smaller ones.
It's not that unbelievable. Corvus Belli gets things wrong in 4 model boxes when their models are set up with specific weapons.
It comes down to things changing between the time of the marketing material being done and the actual production material being released and something slipping up along the line.
Cheers Judge So a bit of a no brainer if I want the scenery and 20% off at FLGS.
I was referring to the investigative work on the plasma conduits, regulator and (until they corrected it) Ryza ruins. Some things still do not add up there .
Dr. Mills wrote: I really hope someone will do an Unboxing of the Ryza ruins soon, as the description and picture fiasco is currently keeping me from dropping some money on them if it's an inferior deal :(
The store description had been updated, What you see on the box cover is exactly what you'll get, you get 2 set of 2/3 sprue from the moonbase, what you don't get is the sprue with the crate and the complete wall.
Thanks! If anything that's slightly better as its easier to position smaller walls for my board as I have lots of big terrain and wanted something smaller.
judgedoug wrote: The investigative work was before GW posted the products online.
No it wasn't. I asked them afterwards.
judgedoug wrote: You can clearly see the contents as well as the descriptive listing on the site now.
Their descriptions are the reason I asked. Does the Plasma Conduit look like it comes with 12 pipes, and 4 of each sprue? How do you get 32 braces when the sprue that has the braces only has 6 of them?
H.B.M.C. wrote: Does the Plasma Conduit look like it comes with 12 pipes, and 4 of each sprue? How do you get 32 braces when the sprue that has the braces only has 6 of them?
An additional sprue with more braces that isn’t shown? Like the missing sprue with the other half of the plasma regulators (they are subtly different from each other in the way the cabling is laid out, so there must be a back half somewhere, not to mention the mirrored railing).
Did they somehow lose the ability to produce more of the straight walkway sections? The new Promethium Refinery doesn't include any, and the Ferrotonic Incinerator which included them has been sold out for a long time.
My thoughts: Ryza Pattern Ruins does not come with the third sprue because it is twice the size of other two. It does not fit in the box. I am still going to buy it, plus Klaisus box for the third sprue. Gotta catch 'em all.
Ialso believe that GW simply forgot to show the second sprue in Thermic Plasma Tower Thingys. The sprue currently shown has two right halves. The other sprue should be similar in setup, but mirrored part arrangement.
I am happy to see ruined Dreadfort wall ends available separately. I skipped the previous boxed set that included them because I had just purchased all the parts I wanted separately.
If it's the big sprue that's missing it could be this is a consequence of their production bottleneck for the which might be why all of these terrain things have been a bit fuzzy on the contents
they may have expected to have solved the bottleneck by now but not being able to do so in time have had to change up what's in the boxes
Christophe wrote: Do you guys think Dragon Fate dais for aos will make a return in a separate set or should I buy the pack with the 4 terrains ? Thx !!
I don’t know if it will or not, but I know I got the set discounted and shipped to the US for £107, which ends up being less than what the web store sells it for here ($149 + tax). I wouldn’t pass that boxed set up if you’re interested in the contents. It’s already a good savings, and even though it says web store exclusive, it’s not.
Creator of the plasma conduits and regulators will sooner or later be tweeting their features and whatnot like he did with the industrial terrain he created earlier, should be interesting.
BrookM wrote: Creator of the plasma conduits and regulators will sooner or later be tweeting their features and whatnot like he did with the industrial terrain he created earlier, should be interesting.
BrookM wrote: Creator of the plasma conduits and regulators will sooner or later be tweeting their features and whatnot like he did with the industrial terrain he created earlier, should be interesting.
Wassat? I'm lost? What features need tweaking?
He'll be tweeting them. He shows off different builds/combinations for the kits.
judgedoug wrote: The investigative work was before GW posted the products online.
No it wasn't. I asked them afterwards.
judgedoug wrote: You can clearly see the contents as well as the descriptive listing on the site now.
Their descriptions are the reason I asked. Does the Plasma Conduit look like it comes with 12 pipes, and 4 of each sprue? How do you get 32 braces when the sprue that has the braces only has 6 of them?
This is why I asked.
My apologies! I was referring to the Promethium Refinery
Christophe wrote: Do you guys think Dragon Fate dais for aos will make a return in a separate set or should I buy the pack with the 4 terrains ? Thx !!
I would buy the Ruins of Elixia. It's $208 retail for $149. So easily available online for about $127. The Dragonfate Dais was $50 back when it was in production, and it's been gone for almost a year. It's a sweet piece of terrain, so I would not risk losing out on it forever.
Plus the Ophidian Archway and Numinous Occulum are modular. I had two of each and made one of each vanilla and combined the rest into a cool ruin piece.
Agreed! Shame they didn't include these in the instructions, as trawling through his posts and retweets has yielded a nice haul of inspirational builds for later this month.
Apologies if this has been posted here or elsewhere before, but the rules for the Hive Shield and scenario for the Pythos terrain packs can be downloaded from the GW site.
I bought the Ryza ruins and they're super easy to assemble and look nice, though I'm super bummed that the big sprue matching these is only available with the stupid battlemat I don't want. The customisability is pretty nonexistent, but these work as scatter terrain. Now only if we would get expanded terrain rules in Chapter Approved so that scatter terrain would actually do something...
Crimson wrote: I bought the Ryza ruins and they're super easy to assemble and look nice, though I'm super bummed that the big sprue matching these is only available with the stupid battlemat I don't want. The customisability is pretty nonexistent, but these work as scatter terrain. Now only if we would get expanded terrain rules in Chapter Approved so that scatter terrain would actually do something...
Stick those ruins to a card-board base and then they already do something.
Crimson wrote: I bought the Ryza ruins and they're super easy to assemble and look nice, though I'm super bummed that the big sprue matching these is only available with the stupid battlemat I don't want. The customisability is pretty nonexistent, but these work as scatter terrain. Now only if we would get expanded terrain rules in Chapter Approved so that scatter terrain would actually do something...
Stick those ruins to a card-board base and then they already do something.
I know. It is a bit weird however that rules for ruins in this edition are written for ruins with bases while pretty much none of the GW kits are like that.
It is a shame that the stand alone STC Ryza ruins set does not have the larger Moon Base Klaisus ruin sprue. That sprue gives a bigger chunk of terrain and allows a bit more customisation.
As Galas says I plan to add my ruins to a cardboard base with a sand and gravel base for added interest and usability.
BrookM wrote: Apologies if this has been posted here or elsewhere before, but the rules for the Hive Shield and scenario for the Pythos terrain packs can be downloaded from the GW site.
Anyone willing to Tweet a question to the fella - If you stack a regulator on top of a walkway at the height of a regulator platform, is the top of the 2nd regulator platform at the same level as the standard sector mechanicus height?
Really impressed with these sector mechanicus/industrial terrain kits. Definitely gonna pick up some of these plasma regulators and pipes. Got way too many ideas about how to paint these, i'm not sure if I want the coils to be glowing or be a metallic color to show they are defunct.
Would anyone who has the plasma regulators and the half tall platforms be able to put them next to some Mantic stuff? I'd like to see how close they are, if possible.
While going over the sprues for the Promethium Refinery set it dawned on me that it is the exact same contents as the terrain of the Shadow Wars Armageddon boxed set from earlier this year.
Right! That's why I had to put down more dosh for an extra Ferratonic Incinerator.
But it will be fun to build it later this weekend, I've already got two Shadow War boxes built up, but this one will be adding some good bit of height to the table.
BrookM wrote: Right! That's why I had to put down more dosh for an extra Ferratonic Incinerator.
But it will be fun to build it later this weekend, I've already got two Shadow War boxes built up, but this one will be adding some good bit of height to the table.
Spoiler:
Ooh, what's the mat? Think I need another Refinery myself, only got 1 shadow war set and a refinery on the way so far
Unfortunately everything except the new Refinery box is out of stock everywhere I know of in the UK. Element says they're getting more Dec 1st, but all of the other online stores say no ETA so I don't really trust that estimate.
I still don't get why they can't just release a box filled with straight walkway and stanchion sprues, they must understand that's what most folk will need the most of, and I don't know that enough people will be willing to buy multiples of boxes filled with extras they don't want to offset the folk who say "eff it" and just order some MDF kits for a fraction of the cost. These plastic kits work on two levels, level of detail AND ease of use, and the latter should apply on the level of the whole range not just individual boxes, it has to be easy and convenient to build the whole setup that you want or else what's the point?
BrookM wrote: Right! That's why I had to put down more dosh for an extra Ferratonic Incinerator.
But it will be fun to build it later this weekend, I've already got two Shadow War boxes built up, but this one will be adding some good bit of height to the table.
Spoiler:
Ooh, what's the mat? Think I need another Refinery myself, only got 1 shadow war set and a refinery on the way so far
PWORK, though buyer beware, one corner of their mats contains a rather large logo of their company, something they do not mention in the product descriptions nor show in previews until recently.
The one shown is the arid mat in 3' x 3' format, though they also have an industrial one.
BrookM wrote: Right! That's why I had to put down more dosh for an extra Ferratonic Incinerator.
But it will be fun to build it later this weekend, I've already got two Shadow War boxes built up, but this one will be adding some good bit of height to the table.
Spoiler:
Ooh, what's the mat? Think I need another Refinery myself, only got 1 shadow war set and a refinery on the way so far
PWORK, though buyer beware, one corner of their mats contains a rather large logo of their company, something they do not mention in the product descriptions nor show in previews until recently.
The one shown is the arid mat in 3' x 3' format, though they also have an industrial one.
Thanks for that, they do look nice, not sure if I can justify the price for a 4x4 one :(
judgedoug wrote: The investigative work was before GW posted the products online.
No it wasn't. I asked them afterwards.
judgedoug wrote: You can clearly see the contents as well as the descriptive listing on the site now.
Their descriptions are the reason I asked. Does the Plasma Conduit look like it comes with 12 pipes, and 4 of each sprue? How do you get 32 braces when the sprue that has the braces only has 6 of them?
This is why I asked.
Did anyone ever find out exactly what's in the Plasma Conduit sets?
The description is still wrong. If it has two of each sprue, then it cannot come with 16 braces, as there are only 6 on the sprue.
Either way, it's not hard to figure out. A lot of these kits just have two of the available sprues (like the other pipes), and this appears to be the same.
That is an awesome piece Duncan did, the thought of transporting it and painting it like that hurts my brain though. I would have left that in at least 3 sub assemblies. Looks like it would work great in a game of Necromunda.
The plasma conduit kit does give you more pipes, plus they're a different kind of plastic. The promethium pipes come from the Wall of Martyrs bunkers era, where things came in that weird-colour plastic not on the sprue. The pipes are on sprues, but they're the same odd plastic. They don't seem locally produced, which is odd for GW.
Anyway, I simply adore the fact that the new pipes can act as columns/pillars. This bit is easily one of the three most useful parts in the Sector Mechanicus range, so having more things like it (better than it, actually) is fantastic.
Ghaz wrote: Thought this video posted by Warhammer TV was appropriate here...
Antipodean Pre-orders are up, the Battleforces, Chapter Approved, a massive bundle of terrain, several books, Terminus Ultra and a Terminus Ultra upgrade sprue.
few new details in the Chapter Approved blurb.
Rules for a range of terrain, including Deathworld Forests (Eldritch Ruins, Grapple Weed, Shardwrack Spine, and Barbed Venomgorse) and Sector Mechanicus (Haemotrope Reactor, Thermic Plasma Regulators, and Thermic Plasma Conduits);
Datasheets for the following 11 fortifications: Aegis Defence Line, Imperial Bastion, Imperial Defence Line, Imperial Bunker, Vengeance Weapon Battery, Plasma Obliterator, Firestorm Redoubt, Macro-cannon Aquila Strongpoint, Vortex Missile Aquila Strongpoint, Void Shield Generator, Skyshield Landing Pad. (I guessed that right)
Battlezone: Industrial Worlds rules for adding height advantage using sector mechanicus terrain and for tapping in to plasma structures to boost weapon potential.
There are 5 example datasheets covering Ultramarines, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Chaos Space Marines tanks, and a blank datasheet for you to create your own,
Planetstrike & Stronghold Terrain bundle includes:
Aegis Defence Line
Imperial Bastion
Wall of Martyrs Imperial Bunker
Hive Shield including 2 void Shields and 2 reactors and pipes
Skyshield Landing pad
NZ$682 ($3 cheaper than buying them all seperate) (£350, UK will probably be cheaper though as similar bundles are £220 in UK)
The platforms on the plasma regulators are set at roughly 3 inches, or the same height as the older imperial sector stuff
Its a bit odd, i was expecting it to be set at 2.5 inches like some of the sector mechanicus pieces
Just in case anyone was wondering, the old Necromunda bulkhead sections are the right height to use with the plasma regulator platforms. You need to remove the top clip part and file it flat. Also, pre-plan where you want to put the bulkhead or you may find yourself unable to attach clips, shields, or grubbins because you've covered up holes you wind up needing to use.
CypherTheMysterious wrote: The platforms on the plasma regulators are set at roughly 3 inches, or the same height as the older imperial sector stuff...
They are about a 1/4" taller than the platforms so they could work as walls attached to the outside of the platform but won't fit underneath.
That's why I had to put down more dosh for an extra Ferratonic Incinerator.
