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In the end it'll turn out you don't even get the back side of the boiler

As I look at these pictures again, I'm not so sure those platforms wrap all the way around. We could be looking at a single arches sprue simply because there is not enough weight on the back side which needs to be supported.

The more I look at it, the more it looks like eight sprues instead of the ten I originally thought.

Well, then.

I don't see evidence of there being more than one "octagon platform" sprue.

Refinery contents:

Assemble a Promethium Refinery – an awesome and atmospheric piece of scenery for use in games of Warhammer 40,000 – with this set of components. It includes:

- A central silo, which can be modelled open or closed;
- 2 sets of platforms, including lots of ladders, guard rails and pulleys, for constructing multi-level pieces;
- 2 sets of walkways, which too include pulleys and guard rails for adding detail;
- A set of supporting structures used to hold the whole set in place;
- A set of 2 frames making up an Alchomite Stack, featuring a central dome and several chimneys.

These components can of course be assembled in any way you see fit, being completely modular in nature – perfect for games of Necromunda: Gang War!

Thermic Plasma Regulators 1 sprue x2



Thermic Plasma Conduits

12 pipes;
- 4 control points;
- 8 plasma fusion batteries that can be fitted into the control points – these slide in and out without glue, offering a great narrative opportunity;
- 32 braces for the pipes;
- 4 short, broken pipe sections;
- 8 short, curved pipe sections;
- 4 short end pipes.

I shall be getting a set of the Regulators and Pipes. Maybe two sets of Regulators. Should go great with my Haemotrope Reactors.

Certain things don't add up about the new terrain sets.

Starting with the Plasma Regulator:


This picture shows the two barricade pieces are different, but the sprue shows one design:


So that's both sides of it in that top picture, right?

Except the top left of this pic shows the back of that piece:


So where is that other barricade coming from? The actual body of the plasma regulators are different. They hare different pipes/cables, and the sprue shows two detailed Skull-Cog icons yet one of the regulators has a flatter more bland cap on one side. In fact, just look at it... you could not put those two sides on the sprue we see together and actually make a regulator. They're 'facing' the same direction. One has to mirror the other.

I submit that this kit is not two of the same sprue but in fact two different (and very similar) sprues, on of which is not shown on the GW website.

Next conundrum:

This kit includes the following components, fully compatible with all Sector Mechanicus kits:

- 12 pipes;
- 4 control points;
- 8 plasma fusion batteries that can be fitted into the control points – these slide in and out without glue, offering a great narrative opportunity;
- 32 braces for the pipes;
- 4 short, broken pipe sections;
- 8 short, curved pipe sections;
- 4 short end pipes.

That's double what this picture shows:


You would need four of this sprue to get the 8 curved pipes, broken pipes, end pipes and fusion batters and so on. The picture shows half that amount.

Also, 32 braces:


32 doesn't divide by 6.

And to get 12 pipes you'd need four of that first sprue, and 4 of this second sprue, which would give you 24 braces, not 32.

Also this picture shows 14 braces. 6 doesn't divide into 14 either.


Please tell me what I'm missing?

Both those plasma regulator pieces are the same side, one would have to be mirrored for it to work. Maybe these are mockups of some kind?

Yeah it seems like someone on the web team didn't have their coffee before writing up the product descriptions, they seem all over the place.

Going by the Ryza Ruins error it was the picture that was correct as that's what's on the box so I'd say it's 2 of each sprue, someone has doubled the contents I can't explain the 32 braces half would be 16 but 2 sprues would only give 12.

I suspect the regulators are painted resins with either plastic platforms from the other kits or resin pieces that was done before the actual production plastic was finalised and produced.

I've E-mailed GW for clarification. I also added in the question that the latest WD says the Hive Shield set has plasma regulators, yet the box picture/website shows promethium relays.

Yes, I take terrain very seriously.

Also the Promethium Refinery kit is just 1/3rd of this:

There's definitely a sprue not shown on the Plasma Regulators, it's only got one side of the tower unless there solid resin.
The Refinery is :-
Dome sprue x1
Chimney sprue x1
Octagon sprue x2
Cylinder sprue x1
Curved Walkway sprue x2
Supports sprue x1

 Rolsheen wrote:
There's definitely a sprue not shown on the Plasma Regulators, it's only got one side of the tower unless there solid resin.

Hmmm you're right now that I look at it both sides are facing the same direction so there must be a second sprue not shown for the other sides that would explain the different guard rails.

I went ahead and ordered 2 Regulators and 2 sets of conduits I'm only expecting 6 pipes in each (half the listed contents) and if it's 12 happy days. I have a pair of generators somewhere.

Plasma Tower Things are shorter than other Sector kits, but have platforms included.

Could we be seeing more to come in that height?

Probably worth saving a screen capture/photo of any of these terrain packs with potentially wrong photos/descriptions at the time you order

then if they arrive with a less favourable set of contents than the description or photo suggested you can try having a moan at GW and customer services might well send you a sprue or two to provide you with what they'd advertised (at the time)

no guarantees but if you're ordering anyway as it sound like a lot are worth a try

The picture of the box shows it's quite thick. Makes me wonder if there really are two of each sprue?

Well I got an answer from GW regarding the contents of the new terrain packs.

The short answer: They don't know.

They long answer: They don't know... yet!


Other than the Shield thingy bundle, which was advertised incorrectly in WD (it's Promethium Pipes, not the new Plasma Conduits) they're not sure about how many pipes you get in the Plasma Conduit kit and they don't know about the sprues in the Plasma Regulator kit (other than there are 2, which we already know).

So... we've really learnt nothing.

zamerion wrote:
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That refining tower with so many rivetted plating looks VERY orky meow.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well I got an answer from GW regarding the contents of the new terrain packs.

The short answer: They don't know.

They long answer: They don't know... yet!


Other than the Shield thingy bundle, which was advertised incorrectly in WD (it's Promethium Pipes, not the new Plasma Conduits) they're not sure about how many pipes you get in the Plasma Conduit kit and they don't know about the sprues in the Plasma Regulator kit (other than there are 2, which we already know).

So... we've really learnt nothing.

How in the everloving feth can GW not know what are in GW kits? Can they not just open one of the damn boxes and look? Or at the very least, stumble down the corridor to the office of one of the people involved in actually making or packaging the kits and ask?

Wut

I really hope someone will do an Unboxing of the Ryza ruins soon, as the description and picture fiasco is currently keeping me from dropping some money on them if it's an inferior deal :(

 Dr. Mills wrote:
I really hope someone will do an Unboxing of the Ryza ruins soon, as the description and picture fiasco is currently keeping me from dropping some money on them if it's an inferior deal :(

Me too. But I think there were widespread GW warehouse issues this weekend with the new releases. My local GW only got Saturdays releases today and Element Games did not get their Friday delivery until, I believe, today. No idea what happened but I am not sure how many of the new kits from last Saturday are out in the wild yet, in the UK at least. That is why a lot of the new things such as the Ryza ruins, tape measure etc were still in the pre order section of the GW website on Saturday.

Yup. Same issue in my neck of the woods.

Dunno what went Pete Tong, but something did.

 Dr. Mills wrote:
I really hope someone will do an Unboxing of the Ryza ruins soon, as the description and picture fiasco is currently keeping me from dropping some money on them if it's an inferior deal :(

The store description had been updated, What you see on the box cover is exactly what you'll get, you get 2 set of 2/3 sprue from the moonbase, what you don't get is the sprue with the crate and the complete wall.




Really regret spend 1 hour run to a GW store just to pre-order this... could've order the Necromunda terrain instead.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
...and they don't know about the sprues in the Plasma Regulator kit (other than there are 2, which we already know).

From the picture and the way the sprue is layed out, we can safely assume the Plasma Regulator kit has only two sprues, especially given the low price.

I would be suprised if the Plasma Conduit kit had more than four sprues.

Some good investigative work going on here, insane that GW do not seem to know the contents nor their own kits, especially the smaller ones.

Assuming the refinery contents are correct does it offer much of a saving against buying separately?

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Some good investigative work going on here, insane that GW do not seem to know the contents nor their own kits, especially the smaller ones.

It's not that unbelievable. Corvus Belli gets things wrong in 4 model boxes when their models are set up with specific weapons.

It comes down to things changing between the time of the marketing material being done and the actual production material being released and something slipping up along the line.

The investigative work was before GW posted the products online. You can clearly see the contents as well as the descriptive listing on the site now.

Yes, the refinery is a great deal. It is 8 frames for $115 msrp, or $14 each, the cheapest per-frame of all of the kits. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-40000-Promethium-Refinery-2017

Previously the best value was the Ferratonic Incinerator - 4 frames for $60.

Cheers Judge So a bit of a no brainer if I want the scenery and 20% off at FLGS.

I was referring to the investigative work on the plasma conduits, regulator and (until they corrected it) Ryza ruins. Some things still do not add up there .

Chopstick wrote:

 Dr. Mills wrote:
I really hope someone will do an Unboxing of the Ryza ruins soon, as the description and picture fiasco is currently keeping me from dropping some money on them if it's an inferior deal :(

The store description had been updated, What you see on the box cover is exactly what you'll get, you get 2 set of 2/3 sprue from the moonbase, what you don't get is the sprue with the crate and the complete wall.

Thanks! If anything that's slightly better as its easier to position smaller walls for my board as I have lots of big terrain and wanted something smaller.

 judgedoug wrote:
The investigative work was before GW posted the products online.

No it wasn't. I asked them afterwards.

 judgedoug wrote:
You can clearly see the contents as well as the descriptive listing on the site now.

Their descriptions are the reason I asked. Does the Plasma Conduit look like it comes with 12 pipes, and 4 of each sprue? How do you get 32 braces when the sprue that has the braces only has 6 of them?

This is why I asked.