"Friday evening sees ‘The Pete and Andy Show’, as it has become known! Pete Foley and Andy Smillie get together to talk about the news and new releases from the studio over the next few months. Previously in this kind of seminar, we saw a preview of Shadespire a good 7 or 8 months prior to release, a new edition of Warhammer 40,000 was revealed and, most recently, at the Nova Open they showed off models and information about next year’s Warhammer Age of Sigmar releases – so this is certainly not one to be missed."
This is pretty self explanatory. they are all but saying they are going to make quite the big announcements, but the questions is: which ones?
What date is this scheduled? Tomorrow or some other Friday? Where will it take place? On Twitch stream or at some event?
If anyone from here goes then please ask about plastic Sisters of Battle.
It is a seminar taking place this Friday at the blood and glory tournament in the UK. It wil start at 9pm UK time. Unfortunately it will not be streamed but the key news usually appears on the warhammer community site after the seminar finishes.
The previous events have introduced 8th edition, Shadespire and Necromunda so it is reasonable to expect some big news.
I predict the announcement is that Orks and Necrons will be combined into one unified faction with the release of the next Codex. Moot Green will be the new red.
Since the biggest tournament at blood and glory is AOS and the 40k open day is just around the corner. I am expecting/hoping it to be focused on Malign Portents.
Hastings has suggested that there are two big releases next year which are not just another faction. It is possible we may get a peek at one of those. (Inq28????!!!!!????)
I'd be excited to see any glimpses of gangs/expansions for Necromunda and Shadespire more than anything else. I'm done with 40k and AoS for the time being, decided to scale back to only smaller games.
they interviewed Ben on Warhammer TV ; he explicitly said the news would be about the AoS event "Malign Portents", and perhaps some AoS Nurgle - I hope for mainly AoS news, as Chikout said, B&G is clearly AoS oriented.
Thargrim wrote: I'd be excited to see any glimpses of gangs/expansions for Necromunda and Shadespire more than anything else. I'm done with 40k and AoS for the time being, decided to scale back to only smaller games.
This is exactly how I feel (and exactly what I did with my miniature hordes).
It would be nice to hear how GW plans to roll with releases for 40K after the codex releases finish; considering that early next year they will be done with. So knowing how they might plan to continue releases into the new edition would be neat.
AOS though is good news, though kinda disappointed that its more nurgle. I keep hoping that of all four gods, Slannesh gets some attention as all the others have had recent releases in abundance.
Well, the Nurgle news are old news (at least Great Unclean One, Beasts of Nurgle - see the new artwork for them in the Death Guard codex, and Pestigors).
Malign Portents will give each Grand Alliance an "unique" character (we saw the Death one : the Knight Of Shrouds), it should cover more Death too (probably a Deathrattle Battletome - absent from the GHB2017 Allegiance Abilities section along with Nurgle), and we'll have more news on the fate of Slaanesh too; that should cover Hosts of Slaanesh, Shadow Aelfs and Clans Eshin...
Add news about 40k (they said on Warhammer TV that after the Codex, they will start campaigns), new gangs and bands for Necromunda & Shadespire ...
If we get even a glimpse on all that tonight I'll be a happy nurgling !
More nurgle jeez is this still going? How much longer is this happening? I’m getting sick of hearing about it now. I get they want to tease it out but I feel they overdid it now. Even if they were teasing Tau for this long I would think this overdone. Just get on with it jeez hate this stuff nothing kills my mood more than waiting forever after being teased over and over.
It’s like Godzilla 2014 at this point where they keep teasing and teasing seeing him and the fight and still nothing. That movie is terrible for that.
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At this point it feels like the AoS news front is constipated with nurgle news.
Gamgee wrote: More nurgle jeez is this still going? How much longer is this happening? I’m getting sick of hearing about it now. I get they want to tease it out but I feel they overdid it now. Even if they were teasing Tau for this long I would think this overdone. Just get on with it jeez hate this stuff nothing kills my mood more than waiting forever after being teased over and over.
It’s like Godzilla 2014 at this point where they keep teasing and teasing seeing him and the fight and still nothing. That movie is terrible for that.
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At this point it feels like the AoS news front is constipated with nurgle news.
Rumours =/= news. We haven’t had much, if any, actual news.
Overread wrote: When "Rumours" come from the official company in formal events it counts as news
Yes, but there hasn’t been much. Gamgee is conflating rumours and news and acting as though GW are dragging it out. We haven’t got much from GW.
And what have we actually got from GW about Nurgle? We got the Death Guard stuff months ago but that’s (almost) all out. I don’t recall anything official about GUO or pestigors.
Overread wrote: When "Rumours" come from the official company in formal events it counts as news
Yes, but there hasn’t been much. Gamgee is conflating rumours and news and acting as though GW are dragging it out. We haven’t got much from GW.
And what have we actually got from GW about Nurgle? We got the Death Guard stuff months ago but that’s (almost) all out. I don’t recall anything official about GUO or pestigors.
Regarding Pestigors, the only official part is that they're mentioned in several pieces of lore/orders of battle from 8th edition.
Not a reveal as big as the last one of this kind of seminars, but nice enough! That barbarian is ace! I'll probably prefer a more buff woman but, thats very nice still.
She has got about the same amount of armour as the male version. In fact she is wearing more clothes than him.
I really hope this is a sign that we are getting a full Darkoath army.
I’ll admit that it’s a bit more “chainmail bikini” than I’d usually prefer, but the Silver Tower Chieftain was so deliciously Old Skool Conan-esque that I can live with Red Sonja
She has got about the same amount of armour as the male version. In fact she is wearing more clothes than him. I really hope this is a sign that we are getting a full Darkoath army.
They called her out on the AoS Facebook as:
"Darkoath Warqueen"
I think you might be spot on as to a Darkoath army. It lets them move from the Slaves to Darkness and make something uniquely Chaos but not overtly Chaos, for lack of a better term.
She has got about the same amount of armour as the male version. In fact she is wearing more clothes than him.
I really hope this is a sign that we are getting a full Darkoath army.
They called her out on the AoS Facebook as:
"Darkoath Warqueen"
I think you might be spot on as to a Darkoath army. It lets them move from the Slaves to Darkness and make something uniquely Chaos but not overtly Chaos, for lack of a better term.
Give me my AoS version of a Barbarian Chaos army! Undivided Chaos best Chaos!
She has got about the same amount of armour as the male version. In fact she is wearing more clothes than him.
I really hope this is a sign that we are getting a full Darkoath army.
They called her out on the AoS Facebook as:
"Darkoath Warqueen"
I think you might be spot on as to a Darkoath army. It lets them move from the Slaves to Darkness and make something uniquely Chaos but not overtly Chaos, for lack of a better term.
I wonder if she could be the "powerful new hero" for the Chaos Grand Alliance we were promised for the Malign Portents event.
I assume the 'bumps' are an attempt at modeling a scar.
WarhamCom wrote:Meanwhile, in the Mortal Realms, something dark is gathering, and the age of hope is drawing to a close.
Really? Wasn't everything awful when the game launched and the 'age of hope' just started a couple months ago? Are they going to settle into the setting or just keep hitting timeskips?
$30 for 5 skaven, great.
Dark and Blood angels as separate books again. No surprise, no excitement, but still disappointed. Chaos daemons next year- as long as doesn't have wacky random charts for items and random effects each turn, it pretty much has to be an improvement. Though the return of undivided would be nice...
Voss wrote: I assume the 'bumps' are an attempt at modeling a scar.
WarhamCom wrote:Meanwhile, in the Mortal Realms, something dark is gathering, and the age of hope is drawing to a close.
Really? Wasn't everything awful when the game launched and the 'age of hope' just started a couple months ago? Are they going to settle into the setting or just keep hitting timeskips?
They announced the 'Malign Portents' event for 2018 back at NoVA.
Voss wrote: I assume the 'bumps' are an attempt at modeling a scar.
WarhamCom wrote:Meanwhile, in the Mortal Realms, something dark is gathering, and the age of hope is drawing to a close.
Really? Wasn't everything awful when the game launched and the 'age of hope' just started a couple months ago? Are they going to settle into the setting or just keep hitting timeskips?
They announced the 'Malign Portents' event for 2018 back at NoVA.
Whether they announced it today or at NOVA, that doesn't really answer my question. AoS launched with everything being awful in all the Realms, but then Sigmar Sigmarines back the Sigmar gates between realms and drives back the forces of chaos that had basically won.
People were apparently building/reoccupying cities, dwarfs stopped hiding, and it vaguely looked like they were going to start building a setting at some point.
And now... stomp? Already? Couldn't they build out the setting, and make reasons for interesting conflicts before wrecking the 'age of hope' concept?
And I know roughly what the card printing industry costs (assuming they're good quality cards from Belgian printers like the original MtG cards were, which I don't actually know). The shadespire expansion packs are wildly over priced for 4 orcs, 7 skellies or 5 skaven.
The presence or absence of a deck of cards doesn't change that.
Voss wrote: I assume the 'bumps' are an attempt at modeling a scar.
WarhamCom wrote:Meanwhile, in the Mortal Realms, something dark is gathering, and the age of hope is drawing to a close.
Really? Wasn't everything awful when the game launched and the 'age of hope' just started a couple months ago? Are they going to settle into the setting or just keep hitting timeskips?
$30 for 5 skaven, great.
Dark and Blood angels as separate books again. No surprise, no excitement, but still disappointed. Chaos daemons next year- as long as doesn't have wacky random charts for items and random effects each turn, it pretty much has to be an improvement. Though the return of undivided would be nice...
Are they really recycling all those covers?
Why would they combine Dark and Blood angels but leave 'chaos' 'goofy looking chaos' and 'goopy chaos' different books? That would be stupid.
I'm hoping that Warqueen means some new Slaves to Darkness models. I don't even play AoS, but I would buy some properly AoS sized and styled undivided Chaos Warriors to paint up.
The barbarian looks pretty nice. I see the cries of sexism, "chainmail bikini", etc., but I don't see a problem with it. She's dressed like how you would expect, seems to fit into the army she was released for, and not too different from many of the male versions of the concept that GW has produced before, most notably the character from Silver Tower as mentioned. The comparison to Red Sonja is also apt, she looks like a Frazetta-style barbarian and I'm okay with that since in that universe Conan's out there running around in his underwear, too. It's also worth pointing out that she definitely isn't in a "sexy" pose, either, which is another huge plus.
And I know roughly what the card printing industry costs (assuming they're good quality cards from Belgian printers like the original MtG cards were, which I don't actually know). The shadespire expansion packs are wildly over priced for 4 orcs, 7 skellies or 5 skaven.
The presence or absence of a deck of cards doesn't change that.
Local store seems to sell mtg boosters 11e for 15 cards. Even if we found them for 8e(almost 30% cheaper) that's still 28e for 60 cards.
It's less about what it costs to produce and more what customers wants to pay. Mtg players pay more without problem. Gw seems to be aiming that market
And I know roughly what the card printing industry costs (assuming they're good quality cards from Belgian printers like the original MtG cards were, which I don't actually know). The shadespire expansion packs are wildly over priced for 4 orcs, 7 skellies or 5 skaven.
The presence or absence of a deck of cards doesn't change that.
Local store seems to sell mtg boosters 11e for 15 cards. Even if we found them for 8e(almost 30% cheaper) that's still 28e for 60 cards.
It's less about what it costs to produce and more what customers wants to pay. Mtg players pay more without problem. Gw seems to be aiming that market
Not to mention you pay Reaper mini prices for GW models.
If you are complaining about the pricing for the Shadespire expansions, you need to take a serious look at the industry, because thats a ridiculous claim.
7 skellies for $30 is just a little over $4 a model, which isn't bad at all.
4 orruks for $30 is just a little under $7 a model, which again isn't bad.
The closest comparison for these models is Privateer press or Reaper minis, maybe infinity. All in all, GW meets the market standards or exceeds them, and thats assuming all cost is simply for minis, not cards.
Again, its a ridiculous statement.
Voss wrote: I assume the 'bumps' are an attempt at modeling a scar.
WarhamCom wrote:Meanwhile, in the Mortal Realms, something dark is gathering, and the age of hope is drawing to a close.
Really? Wasn't everything awful when the game launched and the 'age of hope' just started a couple months ago? Are they going to settle into the setting or just keep hitting timeskips?
$30 for 5 skaven, great.
Dark and Blood angels as separate books again. No surprise, no excitement, but still disappointed. Chaos daemons next year- as long as doesn't have wacky random charts for items and random effects each turn, it pretty much has to be an improvement. Though the return of undivided would be nice...
Are they really recycling all those covers?
Why would they combine Dark and Blood angels but leave 'chaos' 'goofy looking chaos' and 'goopy chaos' different books? That would be stupid.
Wouldn't be the first time they spontaneously changed direction mid-course with codexes. Particularly the DA codex as a pivot- remember the super-restrictive DA codex with terrible stormshield rules followed by the SM codex with... none of that and 3++ stormshields?
Not to mention you pay Reaper mini prices for GW models.
If you are complaining about the pricing for the Shadespire expansions, you need to take a serious look at the industry, because thats a ridiculous claim.
7 skellies for $30 is just a little over $4 a model, which isn't bad at all.
4 orruks for $30 is just a little under $7 a model, which again isn't bad.
The closest comparison for these models is Privateer press or Reaper minis, maybe infinity. All in all, GW meets the market standards or exceeds them, and thats assuming all cost is simply for minis, not cards.
Again, its a ridiculous statement.
Yes, yes. Completely ridiculous since _GW_ sells 'Orruks' for $3.53 a model, and skellies for $2.48 a model.
Now you'll explain why push-fit nearly doubles the price point, yes?
Pricing is different for different product lines. Materials costs are the least relevant cost drivers tor basically any manufactured goods. Products are priced to what GW thinks the market will bear, as is everything sold in a capitalist system.
I think you might be the only person I’ve seen complain about the price of the Shadespire expansions. Not that that means you’re wrong to complain or anything, if it’s too expensive for you it’s too expensive for you, but I think as they’re expansions to a board game the price is pretty reasonable. You aren’t buying multiple boxes to make an army, it’s one and done.
I love the Darkoath Warqueen. I can see where people are coming from saying she’s underdressed or whatever but I don’t agree with it. She’s wearing as much as the Warcheif, and her pose is great.
Yes, yes. Completely ridiculous since _GW_ sells 'Orruks' for $3.53 a model, and skellies for $2.48 a model.
Now you'll explain why push-fit nearly doubles the price point, yes?
Nope.
Unique character models typically cost 5 times the amount a normal model would cost. The clampack plastic models are the closest comparison in terms of detail, while still being easily customizable.
All the shadespire models are very inexpensive given that fact, as they are all unique sculpts with 0 duplicates and plenty of details. GW could charge far more for far less, and consistently do. Look at the Khardron overlords.
The fact that they are push fit really doesn't mean much - it hardly affects conversions, takes very little skill or talent, and are some of the best examples of push fit done right.
And again, if you can't/don't want to afford them, cool w/e - nobody minds/cares.
I'm actually kind of glad I put my Norse Marauders for Mordheim on-hold last year, the prospect that we might see a proper unit in the same style as her and the Chieftain - perhaps even, whisper it, a mixed-sex box with some less ornate female warriors too - is super exciting and would likely put many of the conversions I'd been attempting to shame. Even a wee Shadespire-size box would be welcome.
The Skaven band is also cool, silly AoS--size giant tails aside, and will also find a home in Mordheim for me; the Skaven plastics are lovely, but an Eshin warband looks kinda "flat" using them since there's not a lot of motion in the sculpts. Mixing these guys in should solve that issue admirably.
As to the price - yeah, if you're buying for the models not to actually play Shadespire the reality is skeleton-to-skeleton or ratman-to-ratman they're expensive in terms of pure numbers, but if you're buying them for the models you're not paying for X number of Y's, you're paying for the variety of pose. They're garbage value for building an army with, but that's a silly way to use them - they're for Shadespire, or other small-skirmish games, or for mini-characters like unit leaders. Whether they're worth the price for those reasons for you is up to you.
I'm actually kind of glad I put my Norse Marauders for Mordheim on-hold last year, the prospect that we might see a proper unit in the same style as her and the Chieftain - perhaps even, whisper it, a mixed-sex box with some less ornate female warriors too - is super exciting and would likely put many of the conversions I'd been attempting to shame. Even a wee Shadespire-size box would be welcome.
The Skaven band is also cool, silly AoS--size giant tails aside, and will also find a home in Mordheim for me; the Skaven plastics are lovely, but an Eshin warband looks kinda "flat" using them since there's not a lot of motion in the sculpts. Mixing these guys in should solve that issue admirably.
As to the price - yeah, if you're buying for the models not to actually play Shadespire the reality is skeleton-to-skeleton or ratman-to-ratman they're expensive in terms of pure numbers, but if you're buying them for the models you're not paying for X number of Y's, you're paying for the variety of pose. They're garbage value for building an army with, but that's a silly way to use them - they're for Shadespire, or other small-skirmish games, or for mini-characters like unit leaders. Whether they're worth the price for those reasons for you is up to you.
I'm pretty sure they are Warlord Clans (or Verminus as they are known now), not Eshin, considering their boss is a Warlord.
I'm actually kind of glad I put my Norse Marauders for Mordheim on-hold last year, the prospect that we might see a proper unit in the same style as her and the Chieftain - perhaps even, whisper it, a mixed-sex box with some less ornate female warriors too - is super exciting and would likely put many of the conversions I'd been attempting to shame. Even a wee Shadespire-size box would be welcome.
The Skaven band is also cool, silly AoS--size giant tails aside, and will also find a home in Mordheim for me; the Skaven plastics are lovely, but an Eshin warband looks kinda "flat" using them since there's not a lot of motion in the sculpts. Mixing these guys in should solve that issue admirably.
As to the price - yeah, if you're buying for the models not to actually play Shadespire the reality is skeleton-to-skeleton or ratman-to-ratman they're expensive in terms of pure numbers, but if you're buying them for the models you're not paying for X number of Y's, you're paying for the variety of pose. They're garbage value for building an army with, but that's a silly way to use them - they're for Shadespire, or other small-skirmish games, or for mini-characters like unit leaders. Whether they're worth the price for those reasons for you is up to you.
I'm pretty sure they are Warlord Clans (or Verminus as they are known now), not Eshin, considering their boss is a Warlord.
And I'm pretty sure I stopped caring what GW says the models are for a long, long time ago
They're skaven, in light armour, with dynamic poses. Chuck on some GS hoods and paint 'em up with black fabric bits, et voila Mordheim Eshin.
H.B.M.C. wrote: AUD$50 for 4 Black Orcs is pretty pricey. Take $10 away for the cards and it's still $10 per Orc, especially when 15 of them cost $90 normally.
How many cards box comes with? 10euro would get me about 15 mtg cards so guess less than that or you underestimate price of game camerards
H.B.M.C. wrote: AUD$50 for 4 Black Orcs is pretty pricey. Take $10 away for the cards and it's still $10 per Orc, especially when 15 of them cost $90 normally.
How many cards box comes with? 10euro would get me about 15 mtg cards so guess less than that or you underestimate price of game camerards
60 cards - 29 race specific and 31 universal cards. That goes for both the Orruks and Deathrattle.
H.B.M.C. wrote: AUD$50 for 4 Black Orcs is pretty pricey. Take $10 away for the cards and it's still $10 per Orc, especially when 15 of them cost $90 normally.
How many cards box comes with?
From the web page (which I can vouch for).
- 60 unique cards for use in games of Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire, broken down as follows:
- 9 objective cards for Ironskull’s Boyz;
- 10 upgrade cards for Ironskull’s Boyz;
- 10 ploys for Ironskull’s Boyz;
- 11 universal objectives, for use with any Warhammer Underworlds warband;
- 10 universal upgrades, for use with any Warhammer Underworlds warband;
- 10 universal ploys, for use with any Warhammer Underworlds warband.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Comparing the cards in Shadespire to MTG is absurd. MTG cards have a rarity value to them, and can be worth considerable amounts of money.
The cards you get in a Shadespire box are not worth a lot of money, are hardly going to appreciate, and have no rarity attached to them.
The comparison is completely invalid.
Agreed. Just as comparing miniatures in a Shadespire expansion to a normal AoS box is invalid.
It'll be interesting to see if people trade shadespire cards like they do x-wing ones.
I doubt they will. Part of the issue in x-wing is needing multiples of a card that only comes with a particular ship that you don't want (eg the corvette).
I'm pretty sure you're only allowed one of each card in shadespire, and you're guaranteed to get one in each box. No need to re-buy anything.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Comparing the cards in Shadespire to MTG is absurd. MTG cards have a rarity value to them, and can be worth considerable amounts of money.
The cards you get in a Shadespire box are not worth a lot of money, are hardly going to appreciate, and have no rarity attached to them.
The comparison is completely invalid.
MtG cards` rarity is forced, which makes the whole picture pretty funny: some shiny card costs hundreds of bucks. I`d much rather have a game, where I know 100%, what I`m getting, with no lootbox gambling attached. That`s why I appreciate cards drom Shadespire more. The only plus MtG cards have is better artwork.
Shadespire DLCs are cheaper, not only compared to many other GW kits and characters, but, for example, to Warmachine miniatures, Malifaux, Infinity. And I love Malifaux, so there is no bias. 17,5 quid gets you a minimum of 4 (large) plastic (which is a plus for me, as I like converting and don`t like chipping metal or cumbersome resin) detailed miniatures and a deck of cards. For about twice as much you get a crew box (the best value in Malifaux), which has 1-3 more minis and less cards.
The Skaven are...there. Hmh. So far I liked all Shadespire sculpts over the regular sculpts, but outside the chieftain these are not really more exciting than Island of Blood Skaven that could be bought for pennies with the arms reposed - which isn't too hard. I guess I was expecting some slick new Eshin sculpts or a big model included or even totally freaky and twisted Skyre clan rats with modifications and cables. If I get Shadespire I'll buy them, but I don't feel the need to rush out and get them for my normal Skaven. And I can't see tons of tiny rats running around the bases and climbing on their bigger cousins?!
The Darkoath lady is incredible. I like her buddy from Silvertower, and a full army would be great. I always liked Marauders a ton, but both their kit and their rules never allowed for a decent army with enough variety. I hope the regular Darkoath guys potentially coming are Bloodreaver size and not as big as the Chieftain, but GW will probably do a 5 man box of dudes towering over Sigmarines
H.B.M.C. wrote: Comparing the cards in Shadespire to MTG is absurd. MTG cards have a rarity value to them, and can be worth considerable amounts of money.
The cards you get in a Shadespire box are not worth a lot of money, are hardly going to appreciate, and have no rarity attached to them.
The comparison is completely invalid.
MtG cards` rarity is forced, which makes the whole picture pretty funny: some shiny card costs hundreds of bucks. I`d much rather have a game, where I know 100%, what I`m getting, with no lootbox gambling attached. That`s why I appreciate cards drom Shadespire more. The only plus MtG cards have is better artwork.
Shadespire DLCs are cheaper, not only compared to many other GW kits and characters, but, for example, to Warmachine miniatures, Malifaux, Infinity. And I love Malifaux, so there is no bias. 17,5 quid gets you a minimum of 4 (large) plastic (which is a plus for me, as I like converting and don`t like chipping metal or cumbersome resin) detailed miniatures and a deck of cards. For about twice as much you get a crew box (the best value in Malifaux), which has 1-3 more minis and less cards.
And comparing these orks/skellies/rats to rank and file ones in terms of price is ridiculous.
Edit: wow did I really just press quote instead of edit..... Sigh.
You know, after the power armor X variant joke I should be utterly unsurprised that red and green marines are for Christmas. At least I hope these are intentional, assuming the later is true.
H.B.M.C. wrote: AUD$50 for 4 Black Orcs is pretty pricey. Take $10 away for the cards and it's still $10 per Orc, especially when 15 of them cost $90 normally.
Ever think of moving to a place that has good currency?
H.B.M.C. wrote: AUD$50 for 4 Black Orcs is pretty pricey. Take $10 away for the cards and it's still $10 per Orc, especially when 15 of them cost $90 normally.
Ever think of moving to a place that has good currency?
That's why you colonials get for rebelling against the metropolis! Go back into the fold and the almighty pound will be generous.
H.B.M.C. wrote: AUD$50 for 4 Black Orcs is pretty pricey. Take $10 away for the cards and it's still $10 per Orc, especially when 15 of them cost $90 normally.
Ever think of moving to a place that has good currency?
That's why you colonials get for rebelling against the metropolis! Go back into the fold and the almighty pound will be generous.
I'm so glad that came from a Spaniard in Barcelona. I have no idea what side of the recent political divide you're on, but for the potential irony factor .
H.B.M.C. wrote: AUD$50 for 4 Black Orcs is pretty pricey. Take $10 away for the cards and it's still $10 per Orc, especially when 15 of them cost $90 normally.
Ever think of moving to a place that has good currency?
That's why you colonials get for rebelling against the metropolis! Go back into the fold and the almighty pound will be generous.
I'm so glad that came from a Spaniard in Barcelona. I have no idea what side of the recent political divide you're on, but for the potential irony factor .
I'm actually from the Balears, I just study there (which means I'm living there for the last 5 years).
Vorian wrote: Just as comparing miniatures in a Shadespire expansion to a normal AoS box is invalid.
Not even slightly. They're both plastic miniatures, made by the same company. Other than one being push-fit and made in coloured plastic there is no difference.
Vorian wrote: Just as comparing miniatures in a Shadespire expansion to a normal AoS box is invalid.
Not even slightly. They're both plastic miniatures, made by the same company. Other than one being push-fit and made in coloured plastic there is no difference.
Yeah, no difference at all, it's not like one also includes a bunch of cards and is designed for a completely different game or anything.
Anyway, having just put together both the Ironjawz and Skellies, they're really pretty nice models. The skeletons in particular are really dynamic and interesting, and should be a lot of fun to paint up.
Vorian wrote: Just as comparing miniatures in a Shadespire expansion to a normal AoS box is invalid.
Not even slightly. They're both plastic miniatures, made by the same company. Other than one being push-fit and made in coloured plastic there is no difference.
When you buy GW plastic minis, you are not buying plastic, you are buying playing pieces for a game. If you buy the shadespire minis as AOS minis I will agree that the value is not great, but these minis are designed for shadespire. I cannot buy just 5 skaven or 4 Orruks at the price mentioned. If I want to play shadespire, the other 15 minis in the box is just useless plastic.
Also GW minis are always priced according to likely demand. That is why heroes are more expensive than battleline minis. In fact if you look at each shadespire box as containing one hero plus companions then the pricing becomes rather less than the AOS equivalent. The ironjawz expansion costs the same as a single warchanter.
Ultimately it comes down to taste. I am greatly enjoying my time with Shadespire so I am happy to pay the asking price.
Vorian wrote: Just as comparing miniatures in a Shadespire expansion to a normal AoS box is invalid.
Not even slightly. They're both plastic miniatures, made by the same company. Other than one being push-fit and made in coloured plastic there is no difference.
Are magic cards made from gold? No, they're basically the same thing as the Shadespire ones.
You're not paying £X for that plastic miniature or card completely isolated from context, which is why it's equally invalid to compare the per miniature price on these as it is to compare card prices to magic.
I'm playing the long shot. Betting 100 dakkapoints.
