Is there any plastic sisters of battle available to buy? I can only find old and expensive metal. I wanted to get my gf a box but she only wants new/plastic.

Well I'm sure your gf's used to disappointment :p

Jokes aside plastic sisters is teased but never delivered and we have no clue if it'll ever happen.

Oh boy, you said the magic words!

No, the only plastic sisters are the Celestine Kit, and the Virydian model.

Celestine, the Living Saint (and the Geminae Superia) are plastic. Canoness Veridyan is resin. The rest of the range is metal.


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Also, the Immolator is a fully plastic kit.

Thanks guys. That is 3 more than I found searching the games workshop site myself.

It's a shame you can get characters but no actual tactical/basic units yet.

Do you think these will come with the basic stats and rules too?

So, yea.

Basically, your only options are to get from alternate companies things that are just sorta-like, or make some HEAVY conversions.

If you take the conversions path, the best I found is to get kabalite warrior female bodies and mash them with space marine backpacks and weapons (and bits like purity seals and whatnot)
But its a LOT of work fitting the pieces, and clearing off spikes, hooks and the likes.

Celestine should include the rules as it's newly re-boxed. Not sure about the others.

Plastic sisters are coming later this year.

Yea....people have been saying THAT for a decade now.

So unless you got some sort of hard evidence, I'd ignore this assumption.

hobojebus wrote:
Well I'm sure your gf's used to disappointment :p

Savage.

But yeah, sadly Celestine is the only thing really available other than the plastic immolator as noted above. The rest are all ancient, expensive metal models that GW, for whatever reason, doesn't seem keen on replacing...well, ever. But they sure do love cracking jokes about it at the expense of their fans in some of the videos they've been putting out recently.

Sy2pie wrote:
Is there any plastic sisters of battle available to buy? I can only find old and expensive metal. I wanted to get my gf a box but she only wants new/plastic.

Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.

Plastic SoB is one of the most asked things of GW and "plastic SoB" rumors are a thing that have floated around for a long time and at this point is one of the "reset the clock" memes every time plastic SoB get mentioned. SoB were first released back in......1997 and rumors for plastic SoB have been around for almost as long.

Many people hope for Plastic SoB and a big reason why a lot of people will say "I'd buy SoB if they were in plastic" because the Metals are just about 2x the cost compared to most every other army that has mostly plastic. The cost is a big reason why almost no one buys SoB off the GW webstore and anyone buying sisters are doing so on 3rd party selling sights like Ebay (that's where I got most of my sisters) because overall you can usually get them cheaper through 3rd party sites.

 BoomWolf wrote:

pismakron wrote:
Plastic sisters are coming later this year.

Yea....people have been saying THAT for a decade now.

So unless you got some sort of hard evidence, I'd ignore this assumption.

Yeah heard that too many times over the years waiting for plastic SoB, so unless we get an official announcement from GW its self I have Zero faith in any rumors that come out until then. Even if the rumor turned out to be true.

GW still seem very committed to the sisters of battle. They have them in books, games, and other merc. It's only a matter of time as they are incredibly popular.

Plastic Sisters of Battle coming to a Games Work Shop near you in 2040, preorder for disappointment now.

The funniest thing to me is that they're also 2x as expensive compared to other armies THAT ARE METAL. I was buying Vostroyan guard a while back, and I went in thinking they were Sisters of Battle priced but they're 40$ for 10 metal figures!

I guess the "pink tax" you get on razorblades and deodorant also applies to miniatures.

There is one more plastic Sisters models, the Immolator.


That being said, I think the best conversions for plastic sisters I have ever seen (and even not to pricey, money wise) are Dreamcast infantry figures converted with female heads, bolters, and Space Marine backpacks.

The Rhino too. If we also go with ministorum, the Arco's are finecast.

Does anybody know where I can get the Sisters Of Battle rules/codex? I might go for their version of a devastator squad but I am not sure if it is allowed as I am having to buy units individually.

Sy2pie wrote:
Does anybody know where I can get the Sisters Of Battle rules/codex? I might go for their version of a devastator squad but I am not sure if it is allowed as I am having to buy units individually.

They use Index Imperium 2 for now, but the unit you seek is called the "Retributors" and they can get 4 of any heavy weapon, like Space Marine devastators (though the Sororitas weapon list is tiny; i.e. heavy flamers, multi-meltas, and heavy bolters).

Thank you. That was exactly what I was looking at. I was thinking two heavy bolters, a multi melta and a flamer. Maybe a Sister Superior.

Sy2pie wrote:
Thank you. That was exactly what I was looking at. I was thinking two heavy bolters, a multi melta and a flamer. Maybe a Sister Superior.

The way I would go, because I like consistency in my units (which is no longer required in 8th of course) is Four Heavy Bolters with a Sister Superior with a storm bolter. Lots of dakka dakka!

£8 a model though! *cry* That's £40 for a unit of 5! *cry*

RESET THE CLOCK!

Sy2pie wrote:
£8 a model though! *cry* That's £40 for a unit of 5! *cry*

I play a foot brigade of sisters.

Weep with me brother, that our sins may be cleansed through our pain.

hobojebus wrote:
Well I'm sure your gf's used to disappointment :p

Jokes aside plastic sisters is teased but never delivered and we have no clue if it'll ever happen.

Ohhhh snap! Give this guy a hand! He certainly needs one because he used his too much when he's cold and alone at night! ))))))))))

Sorry, I couldn't help myself... someone needs to make a 40k purge thread where we can just yell at each other for no reason but we have to use only nerd insults or 40k insults.

It looks like Denmark can get a retributor squad. But not the UK. Annoying.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-DK/Retributor-Squad

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

Sy2pie wrote:
Does anybody know where I can get the Sisters Of Battle rules/codex? I might go for their version of a devastator squad but I am not sure if it is allowed as I am having to buy units individually.

They use Index Imperium 2 for now, but the unit you seek is called the "Retributors" and they can get 4 of any heavy weapon, like Space Marine devastators (though the Sororitas weapon list is tiny; i.e. heavy flamers, multi-meltas, and heavy bolters).

 angelrei wrote:
Plastic Sisters of Battle coming to a Games Work Shop near you in 2040, preorder for disappointment now.

Yep - there is some new BL stuff coming out for them as well including an audio drama.

There are some very good non GW Sisters out there until GW can be bothered.

https://steemit.com/games/@jacobtothe/grishnak-models-war-maidens-review

I have three squads of these

Excellent! They look great.
Can they only be bought via email? Were you given an option to by retributiors? How much were they?


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Sorry, ive found the price on the review!

Sy2pie wrote:
Excellent! They look great.
Can they only be bought via email? Were you given an option to by retributiors? How much were they?


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Sorry, ive found the price on the review!

I bought three squads as test and very happy with the service and they even came in packets with a wax seal which was fun.

I don't think they have done heavy weapons - will have to have a look.

 lolman1c wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
Well I'm sure your gf's used to disappointment :p

Jokes aside plastic sisters is teased but never delivered and we have no clue if it'll ever happen.

Ohhhh snap! Give this guy a hand! He certainly needs one because he used his too much when he's cold and alone at night! ))))))))))

Sorry, I couldn't help myself... someone needs to make a 40k purge thread where we can just yell at each other for no reason but we have to use only nerd insults or 40k insults.

of you can't take it don't give it.

I think they should do sisters there's no technical reasons they cant, clearly there's demand if people are still talking about them after 20 years of mistreatment.

But will they no one knows.

Sy2pie wrote:
It looks like Denmark can get a retributor squad. But not the UK. Annoying.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-DK/Retributor-Squad

Denmark: Plundering the British isles since 793. It is what we do

Well, every time you mention plastic SoB they reset the clock. It was only five minutes away until you guys started in. Thanks a lot!

pismakron wrote:

Sy2pie wrote:
It looks like Denmark can get a retributor squad. But not the UK. Annoying.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-DK/Retributor-Squad

Denmark: Plundering the British isles since 793. It is what we do

8 June 793 – Viking raiders attack the Northumbrian coast, arriving in longships from either Denmark or Norway, and sacking the monastery of Lindisfarne. Many of the monks are killed or enslaved. It is the earliest known Viking attack on the British Isles.

Info checks out.

As for Plastic Sisters, one can only hope.

Sy2pie wrote:
It looks like Denmark can get a retributor squad. But not the UK. Annoying.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-DK/Retributor-Squad

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Retributor-Squad

Sy2pie wrote:
Thank you. That was exactly what I was looking at. I was thinking two heavy bolters, a multi melta and a flamer. Maybe a Sister Superior.

I'd generally recommend a mono-build for heavy weapons squads like these. A heavy flamer is going to want to close in on enemy units which is going to cause problems for the other heavy weapons.

BY THE EMPEROR'S ADAMANTIUM ABS....

....STOP RESETTING THE CLOCK!!!

Plastic Sisters sounds like a punk band.

It’s interesting to think, that sales on metal sisters are apparently so bad that GW feel it a safer move to produce completely new armies and miniature lines than it is to revamp the SoB model line, despite the persistent chattering that is the Sisters of Battle fan base, champing at the bit for plastic models.

Since SoB last had a miniature list that wasn’t brand new characters, we have had GS cults, Necrons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Admech, Harlequins, Custodes... what else? Grey Knights? They might count as new since SoB, as their previous incarnation was Dark Millennium.

Assuming it’s not all a sick joke where GW want to see how much they can torture a portion of their buyers, the bean counters must be looking at some utterly dire statistics to think that adding random new factions is more profitable than sorting out an existing and dated line.

This suggests that people are not buying enough of the metal models, however that could be a type of catch 22 situation - if you don’t buy them, there’s not enough visible interest, but if you do buy them, the existing line is obviously fine as is!

Ebay is your other source. Still pricey but much less so than buying direct from geedub.

pismakron wrote:
Plastic sisters are coming later this year.

RESET THE CLOCK!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

pismakron wrote:
Plastic sisters are coming later this year.

RESET THE CLOCK!

Keep on keepin on Plastic Sisters of Battle! Reset that bugger!

I would bet money they come out this edition. People have wanted them for a decade thats true but gw has been releasing stuff like crazy. They hinted when magnus dropped, they released resin veridian and plastic celestine, they hinted the it in the squats release The deathguard line reboot just gives me a strong feeling this is the year.

I bet they do release them but they won't have as much of the gothic nuns with guns look. Or they won't be quite what people are envisioning. And then people ( I included) will be bummed and the cycle will continue.

GW is continuing to go into a more PG and politically correct direction. And I imagine the sisters of battle will suffer from it in the same way Slaanesh has. When I got into the hobby there was gory brutal violence in the artwork, nudity, the whole thing was a lot more grim, same with the lore. Those days are over, now it's picnic time with Cawl and the Eldar together at Guillimans house.

One thing I'm gonna guess is that when SOBs finally are released in plastic, that they get upgraded to 32mm base sizes, SOS have this base size so my guess is this'll be standard for all power army

GW mocs you!

nateprati wrote:
I would bet money they come out this edition. People have wanted them for a decade thats true but gw has been releasing stuff like crazy. They hinted when magnus dropped, they released resin veridian and plastic celestine, they hinted the it in the squats release The deathguard line reboot just gives me a strong feeling this is the year.

So you're betting money this edition? Or this year?

Full army? Or less than a dozen special models?

(GW released a few plastic Sisters of Battle along with Celestine -- apparently, that didn't satisfy the couple vocal SoB players still out there)

What's the wager? And who can get in on it?

the_scotsman wrote:
The funniest thing to me is that they're also 2x as expensive compared to other armies THAT ARE METAL. I was buying Vostroyan guard a while back, and I went in thinking they were Sisters of Battle priced but they're 40$ for 10 metal figures!

I guess the "pink tax" you get on razorblades and deodorant also applies to miniatures.

Normally I'd say you are right, but the sisters regular models are some of the best GW produced. There is some insane detail on each model. (Ebay was my friend when I bought my army however )

Just buy 3rd party female heads and put them on space marine bodies using super glue. It's not like you would be able to tell what they look like under hundreds of pounds of power armor anyway.

 Thargrim wrote:
I bet they do release them but they won't have as much of the gothic nuns with guns look. Or they won't be quite what people are envisioning. And then people ( I included) will be bummed and the cycle will continue.

GW is continuing to go into a more PG and politically correct direction. And I imagine the sisters of battle will suffer from it in the same way Slaanesh has. When I got into the hobby there was gory brutal violence in the artwork, nudity, the whole thing was a lot more grim, same with the lore. Those days are over, now it's picnic time with Cawl and the Eldar together at Guillimans house.

They'll match the St. Celestine and Geminae aesthetic. No reason they would not. Even the Repentia are pretty tame (cleavage, oh noes). Nobody is going to lose their crap over fully armored women that happen to have boob plate (and zero flesh showing)

Alternately if you don't want your T3 models to be as bulky as T4 models you could try weapon/head swaps on Sisters of Silence. They're a little small, but with careful saw work and a good amount of patience I bet you could produce credible meltaguns and heavy weapons to round out the bolters/flamers they've already got.

Sy2pie wrote:
Is there any plastic sisters of battle available to buy? I can only find old and expensive metal. I wanted to get my gf a box but she only wants new/plastic.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. No.

I think they could make a ton of cash with a couple Sisters plastic kits. I think at this point, SOB players would be more than pleased with plastic and all the options that come with it, even if there wasn't anything "new" needing new rules.

I really wonder how Celestine sold. She's plastic and really nice.

From what I understand, she's sold really well.

 John Prins wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
I bet they do release them but they won't have as much of the gothic nuns with guns look. Or they won't be quite what people are envisioning. And then people ( I included) will be bummed and the cycle will continue.

GW is continuing to go into a more PG and politically correct direction. And I imagine the sisters of battle will suffer from it in the same way Slaanesh has. When I got into the hobby there was gory brutal violence in the artwork, nudity, the whole thing was a lot more grim, same with the lore. Those days are over, now it's picnic time with Cawl and the Eldar together at Guillimans house.

They'll match the St. Celestine and Geminae aesthetic. No reason they would not. Even the Repentia are pretty tame (cleavage, oh noes). Nobody is going to lose their crap over fully armored women that happen to have boob plate (and zero flesh showing)

I did like those models but they look a bit angelic and clean on the armor and the armor is less gothic and gritty than i'd like, but I guess that fits who they are. If they look anything like this i'll be 100% content though;





One thing I hope carries over is that helmet design, it's too cool to be redesigned.

The face sculpts on celestine and her retinue left a bit to be desired, but I feel they got their scale/size and proportions spot on. The funniest part about their possible/eventual release is gonna be the price gouging though. I feel pretty certain GW knows they will be able to price plastic sisters very high cause people will buy them in a fever no matter what. If they do and get some kind of horrid backlash i'm gonna be popping multiple bags of popcorn.

The Sallet helms that Jes designed are the best. Far better than the bobs, when the girls should be buzzed or shaved

Thargrim wrote:
The face sculpts on celestine and her retinue left a bit to be desired, but I feel they got their scale/size and proportions spot on. The funniest part about their possible/eventual release is gonna be the price gouging though. I feel pretty certain GW knows they will be able to price plastic sisters very high cause people will buy them in a fever no matter what. If they do and get some kind of horrid backlash i'm gonna be popping multiple bags of popcorn.

One of the biggest hurdles of starting sisters currently is how expensive it is so I think GW might be a bit sensitive to price for sisters (not saying GW will go cheap on them but I think plastic sisters being even remotely close to their metal counter parts will infuriate the masses).

JohnHwangDD wrote:The Sallet helms that Jes designed are the best. Far better than the bobs, when the girls should be buzzed or shaved

I think the bob is iconic for sisters and really helps to highlight the female aspect of them instead of relying on face sculpt quality (female faces is not GW's strong point) and feminine features to sell that they are female. Besides sisters of silence already do the whole bald/top knot stereotype of GW head sculpts so it would be nice to see something different than the same chrome dome / buzz cut we see on all those space marines.

Typo wrote:
It’s interesting to think, that sales on metal sisters are apparently so bad that GW feel it a safer move to produce completely new armies and miniature lines than it is to revamp the SoB model line, despite the persistent chattering that is the Sisters of Battle fan base, champing at the bit for plastic models.

Since SoB last had a miniature list that wasn’t brand new characters, we have had GS cults, Necrons, Imperial Knights, Tau, Admech, Harlequins, Custodes... what else? Grey Knights? They might count as new since SoB, as their previous incarnation was Dark Millennium.

Assuming it’s not all a sick joke where GW want to see how much they can torture a portion of their buyers, the bean counters must be looking at some utterly dire statistics to think that adding random new factions is more profitable than sorting out an existing and dated line.

This suggests that people are not buying enough of the metal models, however that could be a type of catch 22 situation - if you don’t buy them, there’s not enough visible interest, but if you do buy them, the existing line is obviously fine as is!

^This.

The other factor that might help explaining GW's reasoning behind not releasing plastic Sisters is historic sales may have been low (when all sets were metal and roughly the same price).

If plastic Sisters are coming, I agree that this edition is the most likely. They're one of the strongest forces on the battlefield, the rules support them and they have one of the best characters in the game in Celestine. I don't think they'll be cheap though. Orks got a fair few new plastic kits 3 or 4 years ago and the prices of some of those is obscene.

If plastic Sisters are coming, I agree that this edition is the most likely. They're one of the strongest forces on the battlefield, the rules support them and they have one of the best characters in the game in Celestine. I don't think they'll be cheap though. Orks got a fair few new plastic kits 3 or 4 years ago and the prices of some of those is obscene.

Those Ork kits were released in the Kirby era if I recall correctly. Kirby pricing was just all over the place. Fyreslayers, Witch Aelves, and other kits were released around the same time and had just ridiculous pricing on them. The post-Kirby kits have most of the time been a bit more conservative in my experience.

Only time will tell though.

My local GW store manager is making an plastic sisters army from Sisters of Silence with Skitarii Vanguard heads with the crests trimmed. Looks pretty legit.

I also honestly believe they will see new models this year - I expect the full lineup will be.. Celestine and Gemini, a new character model and 2 infantry kits which can be built in 2 ways each... one footslogging, one jump pack elites. Plus a vehicle of some sort. A rhino with a special sisters upgrade sprue.

The best bit is that when they do come out the reaction will be... "OH GREAT YET MORE IMPERIUM STUFF COME ON GW THIS IS RIDICULOUS!"

 Eldarsif wrote:
Those Ork kits were released in the Kirby era if I recall correctly. Kirby pricing was just all over the place. Fyreslayers, Witch Aelves, and other kits were released around the same time and had just ridiculous pricing on them. The post-Kirby kits have most of the time been a bit more conservative in my experience.

Only time will tell though.

Yea you're right in that the release was during Kirby era but if the prices are out of whack why don't they fix them now? lol instead they make the most expensive kits (Mek Gunz) one of our best in CA!

I mean it's all relative, GW has never been a cheap hobby

I am genuinely waiting with my money for SoB to compliment my tyranid hunting space marines and Genestealer Cult hunting inquisitor.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Yea you're right in that the release was during Kirby era but if the prices are out of whack why don't they fix them now? lol instead they make the most expensive kits (Mek Gunz) one of our best in CA!

The rumour is that the board won't let them discount existing kits which is how the Start Collecting boxes came about.

 lolman1c wrote:
I am genuinely waiting with my money for SoB to compliment my tyranid hunting space marines and Genestealer Cult hunting inquisitor.

Same here although I intend to get a full standalone army if the plastic sisters hit the stores.

Sisters of Battle on bikes that have flamers instead of bolters.

Why is this not a thing?

 kronk wrote:
Sisters of Battle on bikes that have flamers instead of bolters.

Why is this not a thing?

You'd immolate yourself?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Sisters of Battle on bikes that have flamers instead of bolters.

Why is this not a thing?

You'd immolate yourself?

Seems legit.


Ghost rider sisters of battle. Make it happen, GW.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The Sallet helms that Jes designed are the best. Far better than the bobs, when the girls should be buzzed or shaved

If there ever will be plastic sisters, I will be building mine with bald Statuesque heads.


It's a good look.

It's a *great* look, which makes perfect sense.

Still several hundred pounds (or more) ready to spend on new SOB.

Happy with hair or without for them tbh happy with just helmets

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Sisters of Battle on bikes that have flamers instead of bolters.

Why is this not a thing?

You'd immolate yourself?

Not if you do ride-by attacks only! Don't shoot in front of you and you'll be fine no?

Then they'd have to swerve to shoot their flamers and not lose control. The flamers are mounted on the handle bars of the bike (if they're done like SM bikes). If the sister is shooting the flamer by hand then it works like you said.

I'd prefer melta-bikes

Just buy sisters of silence and some statuesque heads.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-PL/Sisters-of-Silence-Squad-of-10

http://statuesqueminiatures.shop033.com/p/9284286/sma307-heroic-scale-female-heads---angry-bobs.html

 Niiai wrote:
GW mocs you!

You see, it is stuff like this that just pisses me off. GW keep hinting and teasing at releasing platic sisters but they never do. They showed some apparent "sprues" last year, a few years ago they did something else, now we have this "doomsday clock" but ultimately it always amounts to nothing.
It feels like GW are trying to be some edgy children, giggling and showing something that everyone wants before going 'nope, you cant have it' then showing it again before going 'uh-uh-uh' and so on. They seem to enjoy tormenting the SoB fans for some reason. I am honestly tired of this constant childish 'we might do this ting you want but no heres more other thing instead' garbage they keep on pulling. They should either release plastic Sisters or just squat the entire faction instead, anything but keeping us in this state of permanent suspense.

 master of ordinance wrote:
They should either release plastic Sisters or just squat the entire faction instead, anything but keeping us in this state of permanent suspense.

Alternately, SoB player should accept that GW isn't ever going to convert the SoB line to plastic. Nor will they put them out of their misery. They'll be a cool little Appendix army that a few people play, and that's it.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
They should either release plastic Sisters or just squat the entire faction instead, anything but keeping us in this state of permanent suspense.

Alternately, SoB player should accept that GW isn't ever going to convert the SoB line to plastic. Nor will they put them out of their misery. They'll be a cool little Appendix army that a few people play, and that's it.

Only a Heretic would make such a suggestion. Prepare to be purged

See, you say that, and I think I'll be sent to Castle Anthrax for my "punishment"...

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Alternately, SoB player should accept that GW isn't ever going to convert the SoB line to plastic.

Never accept it. Always continue to bother the GW social team and spread bile and negativity toward GW online.

 master of ordinance wrote:
They should either release plastic Sisters or just squat the entire faction instead, anything but keeping us in this state of permanent suspense.

My two decade old Sisters are getting along in 8ed just fine thanks.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Sisters of Battle on bikes that have flamers instead of bolters.

Why is this not a thing?

You'd immolate yourself?

Or you could wear a firesuit. Or power armour, given that Marines in 30k can already do this.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Alternately, SoB player should accept that GW isn't ever going to convert the SoB line to plastic.

Never accept it. Always continue to bother the GW social team and spread bile and negativity toward GW online.

Yeah, just keep resetting that clock...

@GW - use a sturdier "plastic Sisters" clock!

I think with the tease in the Necromunda squat teaser video they basically confirmed Sisters are coming in the "near" (my guess being max. one year out at most, at least for some announcement) future. In the past they basically completely blocked any questions related to a plastic sister release outside of Celestine (answers usually having been "we have no plans for it" or "when it's done") and it would have been easy enough to keep that going, rather than basically including a "soon" hint like they did. They could easily have set that clock to the sort of time showing on the plastic Thunderhawk clock, yet they didn't.

They wouldn't do that if they weren't planning a release, if nothing comes out of it they will seriously piss off the fan- and playerbase and create negative blog press and controversy ("GW pretends to but never listens to us, it's downright malicious") by hinting at a close release; while if their intention was to take a friendly jab at us without creating any false hope then they could have just set the clock to 8:25pm. Keep in mind that the pipeline for new kits is 2-3 years before they are released, so if plastic SoB are coming in 1 or even 2 years then the go-ahead would have already been given.

 Ragnar Blackmane wrote:
I think with the tease in the Necromunda squat teaser video they basically confirmed Sisters are coming in the "near" (my guess being max. one year out at most, at least for some announcement) future.

I saw it as a joke first and foremost, which is why "plastic Thunderhawk" was up there as well... Quite frankly, plastic Thunderhawk would be much better product from a sales standpoint, and everybody should already know that.

If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it. Lowering the bar, the projected demand for plastic Sisters simply has to be better than stuff like Battlefleet Heresy, Blood Bowl mk.2, Necromunda mk.2+, Mordheim mk.2, etc., Fury Dracula mk.2, etc.

So yeah, when hell freezes over.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Ragnar Blackmane wrote:
I think with the tease in the Necromunda squat teaser video they basically confirmed Sisters are coming in the "near" (my guess being max. one year out at most, at least for some announcement) future.

I saw it as a joke first and foremost, which is why "plastic Thunderhawk" was up there as well... Quite frankly, plastic Thunderhawk would be much better product from a sales standpoint, and everybody should already know that.

If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it. Lowering the bar, the projected demand for plastic Sisters simply has to be better than stuff like Battlefleet Heresy, Blood Bowl mk.2, Necromunda mk.2+, Mordheim mk.2, etc., Fury Dracula mk.2, etc.

So yeah, when hell freezes over.

Honestly, if gw started to move some forgeworld stuff to plastic and the main game (like with guo) that would be epic! Imagine a titan for only £100!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Ragnar Blackmane wrote:
I think with the tease in the Necromunda squat teaser video they basically confirmed Sisters are coming in the "near" (my guess being max. one year out at most, at least for some announcement) future.

I saw it as a joke first and foremost, which is why "plastic Thunderhawk" was up there as well... Quite frankly, plastic Thunderhawk would be much better product from a sales standpoint, and everybody should already know that.

If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it. Lowering the bar, the projected demand for plastic Sisters simply has to be better than stuff like Battlefleet Heresy, Blood Bowl mk.2, Necromunda mk.2+, Mordheim mk.2, etc., Fury Dracula mk.2, etc.

So yeah, when hell freezes over.

Considering they released niche kits such as Sisters of Silence I doubt that they consider SoB unprofitable, especially when they can just release a few plastic characters and one or two multi kit troop sets (e.g a Battle Sisters/Celestians/Retributor kit and e.g. a Repentia/Seraphim kit) and leave more the more specialized models (e.g. penitent engines) as they are. It's not like SoB have a massive roster to begin with and a plastic kit for immolators is already on the market.

Remember that the planning and production of new kits usually take around two years and Rountree has only been in office since early 2015. Heck, we even got an Adeptus Custodes army release, Necromunda and a Squat character since then. If anyone had suggested these things here three years ago then he would have been laughed out of basically any thread.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it.

The thing is GW could quite easily confirm the massive demans by simply asking the community or looking online but they do not, and will not.
The demand is there but GW would rather torment the fans than make money.

 master of ordinance wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it.

The thing is GW could quite easily confirm the massive demans by simply asking the community or looking online but they do not, and will not.
The demand is there but GW would rather torment the fans than make money.

You can't confirm demand by asking the community or looking online. There's an extremely vocal minority of diehard SoB fans that would skew any such data.

 master of ordinance wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it.

The thing is GW could quite easily confirm the massive demans by simply asking the community or looking online but they do not, and will not.
The demand is there but GW would rather torment the fans than make money.

How much did not-Sisters make from Raging Heroes? Almost nothing.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it.

The thing is GW could quite easily confirm the massive demans by simply asking the community or looking online but they do not, and will not.
The demand is there but GW would rather torment the fans than make money.

How much did not-Sisters make from Raging Heroes? Almost nothing.

I was under the impression they did reasonably well. I would have ordered some myself but as I play in a local GW it would have been wasted money

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

How much did not-Sisters make from Raging Heroes? Almost nothing.

It was my understanding that the KS isn't even finished shipping to backers (but close), and the bulk of their stuff isn't even available at retail yet.

That and it's Raging Heroes, which do resin, and charge premium resin rates for the most part.

BrianDavion wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it.

The thing is GW could quite easily confirm the massive demans by simply asking the community or looking online but they do not, and will not.
The demand is there but GW would rather torment the fans than make money.

How much did not-Sisters make from Raging Heroes? Almost nothing.

I was under the impression they did reasonably well. I would have ordered some myself but as I play in a local GW it would have been wasted money

For Raging Heroes, they did OK.

For GW, it was barely a penny

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it.

The thing is GW could quite easily confirm the massive demans by simply asking the community or looking online but they do not, and will not.
The demand is there but GW would rather torment the fans than make money.

How much did not-Sisters make from Raging Heroes? Almost nothing.

I was under the impression they did reasonably well. I would have ordered some myself but as I play in a local GW it would have been wasted money

For Raging Heroes, they did OK.

For GW, it was barely a penny

sure, but this is a third party source from an internet ordering place. thats not the same as a GW plastic sisters. so far the best data we have is celestine and that resin cannonness. which seem to be quite popular

Really you cant confirm demand by asking the community. Theres an extremely vocal minority of SoB haters that skew any such data.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
(GW released a few plastic Sisters of Battle along with Celestine -- apparently, that didn't satisfy the couple vocal SoB players still out there)

The only other plastic Sisters they released alongside Celestine are packaged with her - the Geminae.

You really seem to have a massive dislike for the SoB - any particular reason?

I think someone did an estimate on the how/what plastic kits for SoB. With the way that GW has been doing some duel plastic kits, possible kit combos could look like this

BSS / Celestians
Dominions / Retributers (special / heavy weapon sprue swap)
Serephim
Repentia

vehicles - A plastic Penitent engine and a plastic version of the exorcist would be nice. TBH it would be nice if GW listed the current SoB Immolator kits as a duel SoB rhino/Immolator kit.

On the back of this thread I was interested to see how many people own and play with them.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751091.page

 Dysartes wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
(GW released a few plastic Sisters of Battle along with Celestine -- apparently, that didn't satisfy the couple vocal SoB players still out there)

The only other plastic Sisters they released alongside Celestine are packaged with her - the Geminae.

You really seem to have a massive dislike for the SoB - any particular reason?

Let's start by recognizing that I own a fully-functional & playable Sisters of Battle force.

I just don't believe that the economics will ever justify plastic Sisters, no matter how much people whine.

I, for one, will not buy any new Sisters models if they came out in plastic or otherwise, and I doubt anyone else would. The metal Sisters of Battle look great and are cheap enough at full GW MSRP, so there's no need to make them in plastic.

Of course, I've stopped buying non-M2O GW for quite a while, and don't intend to buy any of their new stuff, either.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
(GW released a few plastic Sisters of Battle along with Celestine -- apparently, that didn't satisfy the couple vocal SoB players still out there)

The only other plastic Sisters they released alongside Celestine are packaged with her - the Geminae.

You really seem to have a massive dislike for the SoB - any particular reason?

Let's start by recognizing that I own a fully-functional & playable Sisters of Battle force.

I just don't believe that the economics will ever justify plastic Sisters, no matter how much people whine.

I, for one, will not buy any new Sisters models if they came out in plastic or otherwise, and I doubt anyone else would. The metal Sisters of Battle look great and are cheap enough at full GW MSRP, so there's no need to make them in plastic.

Of course, I've stopped buying non-M2O GW for quite a while, and don't intend to buy any of their new stuff, either.

Hmm I would buy plastics tomorrow - have bought "not Sisters" from other suppliers.

The thread here suggests that quite a few other people would as well

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751091.page

SoB don't need to be the most popular thing ever to be profitable, they only need to be about as popular than Genestealer Cults or Fyreslayers.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it.

The thing is GW could quite easily confirm the massive demans by simply asking the community or looking online but they do not, and will not.
The demand is there but GW would rather torment the fans than make money.

How much did not-Sisters make from Raging Heroes? Almost nothing.

I was under the impression they did reasonably well. I would have ordered some myself but as I play in a local GW it would have been wasted money

For Raging Heroes, they did OK.

For GW, it was barely a penny

$1.5m across two projects, with nothing like the exposure or ubiquity that GW would bring to the table.

That's enough to get GW's attention.


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You have a weird idea of "almost nothing."

Well I guess it's safe to assume that everyone who got stratagems in the chapter approved will get a fully fledged codex. They are just supposed to be placeholders till everybody can have their book.

Since GW said they would complete the update all the codex's cycle this year I guess sisters will get a new codex by December.

I can't see them getting their own codex but no new models? Could see a Death Guard style release for them by the end of the year?

If they endup nerfing celestine in soup armies I think a lot of people would pick up at least a couple boxes of plastic sisters (a battalion worth) instead of just letting such a beautiful model just sit on a shelf (at least I would, she's my favorite model I've ever painted myself.)

 Azreal13 wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
If GW had comparable confirmed, committed demand for plastic Sisters, I'm sure they'd do it.

The thing is GW could quite easily confirm the massive demans by simply asking the community or looking online but they do not, and will not.
The demand is there but GW would rather torment the fans than make money.

How much did not-Sisters make from Raging Heroes? Almost nothing.

I was under the impression they did reasonably well. I would have ordered some myself but as I play in a local GW it would have been wasted money

For Raging Heroes, they did OK.

For GW, it was barely a penny

$1.5m across two projects, with nothing like the exposure or ubiquity that GW would bring to the table.

That's enough to get GW's attention.


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You have a weird idea of "almost nothing."

Not-Sisters didn't come anywhere near close to getting $1.5M. At best, they were 1/3 of $800k in the 2nd TGG KS, or $266k. Pretending that they got $the full $800k spend, it's still less than 1% of GW's $120M annual revenue.

I was wrong. Sisters would be *less* than a penny to GW. More like pocket lint.

 Eldrad Ulthran wrote:
I can't see them getting their own codex but no new models?

This is what quite a few of the 8ed dex releases have been. Dex, cards, maybe dice. Why would GW suddenly treat them like Astartes of either stripe? The index is arguably the best "Sisters" and not "Sisters and all these other guys" dex we have ever had. Sisters are a very small % of armies out there, couldn't tell you how many shops I have gone into while traveling for work who have never had a Sisters army there before or how often I have heard from players that they have never seen one before. Sisters players may be vocal, though our small number and reliance on decades old collections to field our armies doesn't support a gigantic untapped wave of purchases headed for GW if they do release plastic Sisters.

A large portion of my 8ed 2k list was bought on the day they were first released over 20 years ago. Apart from the rush to amass 45 SB Doms, I haven't bought a single Sisters model except for Veridyan in over a decade. I have a huge collection of Sisters, but none of it represents new purchases for GW.

I would be very very surprised if Sisters got more than just a Dex. Which is again most likely to be rolled into some form of IA like the 7ed dex was. I just want some objective and strategem cards with a gol dumb Fleur-de-lys on them dagnabbit! Give me that and I'm good for another couple decades.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:


Not-Sisters didn't come anywhere near close to getting $1.5M. At best, they were 1/3 of $800k in the 2nd TGG KS, or $266k. Pretending that they got $the full $800k spend, it's still less than 1% of GW's $120M annual revenue.

I was wrong. Sisters would be *less* than a penny to GW. More like pocket lint.

It's all in how you present the numbers: an off brand set of models in a less popular medium than plastic possibly raised as much as 266K on a speculative platform like Kickstarter.

But we've seen some weird things as of late. Was anyone caterwauling for GSC?

 fox-light713 wrote:
I think someone did an estimate on the how/what plastic kits for SoB. With the way that GW has been doing some duel plastic kits, possible kit combos could look like this

BSS / Celestians
Dominions / Retributers (special / heavy weapon sprue swap)
Serephim
Repentia

vehicles - A plastic Penitent engine and a plastic version of the exorcist would be nice. TBH it would be nice if GW listed the current SoB Immolator kits as a duel SoB rhino/Immolator kit.

Based on how GW handled the Primaris and the Custodes, I think we're moving away from having units share the same base model unless they have completely different load outs (Intercessors and Hellblasters for example) and are sold seperately. Basically no kit sharing means more money through selling kits instead of people converting from extra stuff they have or shuffling models around to cover gaps to run stuff.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Hmm I would buy plastics tomorrow - have bought "not Sisters" from other suppliers.

The thread here suggests that quite a few other people would as well

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751091.page

I'd be careful with trying to assume things from your thread.

Bear in mind that you're asking only a small subset of a group a very specific question and many of those people who aren't interested in the topic won't even bother to click or vote.

It's the forum equivalent of going into a pub and asking who wants a drink then using this as some basis that there is a massive demand for alcoholic beverages everywhere.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
(GW released a few plastic Sisters of Battle along with Celestine -- apparently, that didn't satisfy the couple vocal SoB players still out there)

The only other plastic Sisters they released alongside Celestine are packaged with her - the Geminae.

You really seem to have a massive dislike for the SoB - any particular reason?

Let's start by recognizing that I own a fully-functional & playable Sisters of Battle force.

I just don't believe that the economics will ever justify plastic Sisters, no matter how much people whine.

I, for one, will not buy any new Sisters models if they came out in plastic or otherwise, and I doubt anyone else would. The metal Sisters of Battle look great and are cheap enough at full GW MSRP, so there's no need to make them in plastic.

Of course, I've stopped buying non-M2O GW for quite a while, and don't intend to buy any of their new stuff, either.

Hmm I would buy plastics tomorrow - have bought "not Sisters" from other suppliers.

The thread here suggests that quite a few other people would as well

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/751091.page

You know that your thread is worse than worthless, right?

It's asking whether you own any Sisters, not whether you would commit to buying a complete, new competition-sized army of Sisters of Battle within 1 year of release - which is what GW actually cares about. If GW spent the money to tool plastic Sisters, then they would need to get adequate returns on that investment. GW would probably need something like a million dollars in committed purchases to even consider it -- at least 2,500 backers spending at least $400 each.

Not knowing that a couple dozen people claim to possess a couple hundred bucks worth of 20-year-old models, possibly purchased on discount from a clearance bin... and that there's another couple dozen people who might buy an army if GW went plastic. Share that with GW, and it'd only confirm how few Sisters players there are, and how little value there is in developing *anything* for them. Ohh... the vocal few might buy 2 dozen Codex books. And other couple dozen might buy armies. Maybe. And out of the 1,000s of people on Dakka, barely 100 even bothered to respond. It's the kind of numbers that suggest GW would be better off Squatting Sisters entirely.

So yeah, go ahead, share that with GW and see what they say.


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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
It's the forum equivalent of going into a pub and asking who wants a drink then using this as some basis that there is a massive demand for alcoholic beverages everywhere.

More like walking into the biggest pub in London, shouting "We demand haggis!", and then finding only the one table of Scots says Yea! and the other table of Americans are drunk enough to consider it.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:


Not-Sisters didn't come anywhere near close to getting $1.5M. At best, they were 1/3 of $800k in the 2nd TGG KS, or $266k. Pretending that they got $the full $800k spend, it's still less than 1% of GW's $120M annual revenue.

I was wrong. Sisters would be *less* than a penny to GW. More like pocket lint.

You're completely clueless. That a third party manufacturer that most people haven't even heard of could make that much is a great indication that this would be quite profitable to GW.

I think what people forget is that RH are not the only ones doing Not-Sisters. There are quite a few 3rd party studios making not-sisters and conversion bits so if anything there is most likely quite some demand for them.

I personally would be more worried about GW squatting Sisters because there is so much demand being met outside their production lines rather than there is no demand at all(if there were no demand they wouldn't even bother selling the metal ones).

I currently don't own any sisters and would totally drop $ on a plastic army. I hated metal minis back in RT and still hate them now.

At least allow forgeworld to make them in resin, that way they'll cost slightly less than $100 a squad.

I sure hope that GW will "gak or get off the pot".