Yep, it's up. The old annual tradition returns.

Have at it!



I'm seeing a clear Axe, and what looks to be a Wolf up the top?

It looks like a creature wearing a thick cloak whilst striding forward with arms swinging back and forth whilst wearing a floppy pointed hat with an axe mounted on the brow.

So its clearly Vivi Ornitier with an axe mounted on the front of his hat! Possibly whilst riding a Tzeentch disk!

Horus Heresy Character? Though there is a hint of Rat or Wolf in it...?

Left hand side, middle.

I keep seeing a Boar, but I don't think it's a Boar.

Well, you missed the most important comment from that article:

We’ll be revealing the latest model in the Horus Heresy Character Series for you on Christmas day.

In which case I'll say a White Scars character on Jetbike!

the bottom part is that sea turtle thing, i dont think the image is actually what we will see, i think its made up of several existing models

All I’m seeing is a wolf wielding an axe riding a platypus.

Lion’el Johnson riding a lion with the lion axe.

 Formosa wrote:
the bottom part is that sea turtle thing, i dont think the image is actually what we will see, i think its made up of several existing models

The bottom part is the scenic base all the character series models have.

Well, going purely by the silhouette that looks like an anthro wolf with a huge cape and an axe riding atop a juggernaut of Khorne that has tracks instead of legs.

Part of me wishes it's a Primarch, but I doubt it as the general pattern seems to have been "rules first, then Primarch model". As to whatever it could be, I'm stumped, although I'm hoping it's something new rather than a remake; the mention of a wolf and axe has me fearing they're just doing a special version of something they've done before like Russ or Horus.

It could be another Custodes Captain or General.

Kind of reminds me of BA lieutenant pose, just with an axe instead of sword...

 BrookM wrote:
It could be another Custodes Captain or General.

You mean, with wolf nailed to his back like Valdor has carcass of random crow spiked to his arm?

Though, this doesn't look like a Custodes axe to me...

Solved.

OK, how about something specific: Hvarl Red-Blade with Hearth-Splitter and a dismembered Marine falling away from him.

 zedmeister wrote:
OK, how about something specific: Hvarl Red-Blade with Hearth-Splitter and a dismembered Marine falling away from him.

I am going with that one ...

That or Bjorn -- pre dreadification mode.


..unless we now discover that one of the missing 2 primarchs was in fact an entirely different form of Stormcast -- maybe a primaris stormcast from yet another unlocked chamber -- but these ones have slightly different coloured armour !

That inflicts d6 mortal wounds on completion of the purchase of this model, must be used in your next game -- FAQ detailing what happens if you buy more than one arriving in about 3 months time.

Axe, wolfhead, cape, jetbike prow.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Solved.

Spoiler:

If it's actually that, FW get (parts of) my respect back!

It's a Marine carrying an axe two handed held out to the model's left (viewers right) charging towards the camera with a cape out behind it and in a FW Extra Resin To Justify The Price™ scenic base.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
the bottom part is that sea turtle thing, i dont think the image is actually what we will see, i think its made up of several existing models

The bottom part is the scenic base all the character series models have.

Yeah I think your right, the turtle is very different from a normal one, still looks like a turtle though

 zedmeister wrote:
OK, how about something specific: Hvarl Red-Blade with Hearth-Splitter and a dismembered Marine falling away from him.

You’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you’ll Hvarl?

Looks like a marine with jump pack, left handed chainsword, right handed axe, running forward to the right.

It's a squig holding an axe squig with its tongue

All I'm seeing is a broken Batman symbol. Clearly it's a DC-40k crossover mini: the bat-squig.

Looks rather wolfy to me. The top left looks like a wolf head, and that axe looks like it has something with pointy ears ornamenting it

Bizarre shape for a Primaris Lieutenant.

 ImAGeek wrote:
All I’m seeing is a wolf wielding an axe riding a platypus.

I'd buy that.

A half eaten Hershey kiss being re-gifted?

 Elbows wrote:
Bizarre shape for a Primaris Lieutenant.

We have a winner for humorous answer. Everyone go home.

Gotrek?

It's a Wolf character, that's probably a pelt on his back swinging in the wind.

Wasn't there a long lost HH Wolf character that FW never released?

Yup, Bran Redmaw, but not from HH. It was from Doom of Mymeara. They showed him at an event as a WIP, and that’s the last we saw of him. That outline isn’t that model.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
Bizarre shape for a Primaris Lieutenant.

We have a winner for humorous answer. Everyone go home.

Surely you mean boring one? That got old long time ago but guess people can't come with any new ones. Same joke doesn't make laugh when it's been heard 1000's of times

Nah, it's like the Black & White Space Marine on the Black & White Bike: The joke isn't funny. The reader becomes the punchline.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
Bizarre shape for a Primaris Lieutenant.

We have a winner for humorous answer. Everyone go home.

+1, exalted!

Unless there’s a lot of psychological stuff going on, it looks like they’ve put a lot of effort into the wrapping paper to make it look like other stuff. Kudos to FW for that.

Looks like it could be a mechanicum axe on the one side and a servoarm looming over the other shoulder.
Possibly.

Well, they shared this art last night.

Ka'Bahnda has an Axe relatively similar to what we're seeing there.

And...wings?

 Eldarain wrote:
Gotrek?

Very possible.
Axe, mohawk, stunty.

Edit: woops, has to be Horus Heresy.

 Azreal13 wrote:
And...wings?

Listen, when people are speculating it's a wolf on a turtle I don't think a Bloodthirster with bad Forgeworld wings is too big a stretch.

Fairly certain it's Hvarl Redblade, Wolf Lord of the 4th Great Company (or 7th-seems to be a canon conflict?). Wears Tartaros armour, wields a heavy bolter and a big power axe from Terra. He has some rules in Inferno, but no model.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Fairly certain it's Hvarl Redblade, Wolf Lord of the 4th Great Company (or 7th-seems to be a canon conflict?). Wears Tartaros armour, wields a heavy bolter and a big power axe from Terra. He has some rules in Inferno, but no model.

That would certainly fit the wrapped profile.

Surely it’s the backpack top left, that has wolf head shape exhausts.
Then axe arm out.
The lower bits, the ‘wrapping paper’ isn’t necessarily wrapped tight to the details of it, as with above parts, so may be clearer later.

When do they reveal these usually? Christmas Day?

Community article stated that it will be revealed on the 25th.

If there was any decency int he world it would be the Black and White Space Marine riding a Black and White Bike.

Haven't they released a holiday White Dwarf like, every year for the last few years? He has a similar axe to that shape, and pointed, semi-mohawk like hair. He could be standing on a mound of presents. /shrug

Really looking forward to seeing the Forge World Blood Angel model. Sangy LIVES!

 Tamwulf wrote:
Haven't they released a holiday White Dwarf like, every year for the last few years? He has a similar axe to that shape, and pointed, semi-mohawk like hair. He could be standing on a mound of presents. /shrug

Really looking forward to seeing the Forge World Blood Angel model. Sangy LIVES!

They said it’s from the HH character range.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Tamwulf wrote:
Haven't they released a holiday White Dwarf like, every year for the last few years? He has a similar axe to that shape, and pointed, semi-mohawk like hair. He could be standing on a mound of presents. /shrug

Really looking forward to seeing the Forge World Blood Angel model. Sangy LIVES!

They said it’s from the HH character range.

So he’s on a pile of dead HH characters. Largest Forgeworld base to date with all the dead primarchs underneath him. He and the black goblin are the two missing primarchs .

Its Ka'Bandha : http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ka%27Bandha

The next thing is signus prime and the blood angels fight against the daemons of khorne and slaanesh. (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Signus_Prime)

It would introduce daemons to 30k and would also introduce the majority of the blood angel heroes.

Ka'Bandha returning and having an actual model would be amazing.

It would be pretty awesome to see a plastic box set for the horus heresy be released with new blood angel or centric units of that time be released.

Just turn him slightly round and edit the axe and backpack and it’s this

Not specifically him, but a wolf character, this is the wolf head power pack style I was suggesting last page too..

Bran Redmaw was who I was thinking. He was held back because of some rework so with the minimal amounts of edits he fits.

 aka_mythos wrote:
Bran Redmaw was who I was thinking. He was held back because of some rework so with the minimal amounts of edits he fits.

He’s not a HH character though.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
Bran Redmaw was who I was thinking. He was held back because of some rework so with the minimal amounts of edits he fits.

He’s not a HH character though.

Plot twist; he is now - he first manifested the Wulfen form in the Heresy, then went off with the 13th into the warp, hung out for a bit, then was the first to come back (as the sanest available), sent to negotiate the Wulfen’s reintegration into the chapter.

It's a squig in Space Marine Power Armor.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It's a squig in Space Marine Power Armor.

The new-new Squigmaris Space Marines - Cawl has gone full xenotech lover and begun incorporating Orkoid DNA into his latest batch, and the Imperium are choosing to overlook this massive heresy because *mumble mumble*.

Nah, it’s a space marine in squig power armour.

Hvral Redblade. Terminator armor, Axe, underslung heavy bolter.

That comparison pic with Bran clearly show the "Wolf Head" dont fit the style of the usual SW character back packs.
Besides, where is the opposite wolf head?
Anyway, we will see soon.

BA fit with the current releases; picture looks kind of wolfy i guess. Im hoping for Kid Cawl, the boy wonder mechanic.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It's a squig in Space Marine Power Armor.

The new-new Squigmaris Space Marines - Cawl has gone full xenotech lover and begun incorporating Orkoid DNA into his latest batch, and the Imperium are choosing to overlook this massive heresy because *mumble mumble*.

Oooooh....I'm actually digging that idea!

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Hvral Redblade. Terminator armor, Axe, underslung heavy bolter.

For reference. Looks okay.

Paintjob is bobbins for a demonstration piece.

Paint job looks fine, its just that the head looks wrong floating there in a sea of darkness whilst having no clear shading/highlighting to reflect the arching over armour cover. Strikes me that the head and body were painted separately (understandable) but no shading was done on the head to account for it.

Also might have worked better if the painter had gone for less shadowing and instead painted the area around the head brighter instead of black.

Yup. Can't wait to see what the model actually looks like under the paintjob.

I bet the situation was:

-Giuseppe, we need this painted asap.
-But it's christmas man, and I still haven't bought any presents, and i've loads of commissions...
-Do it or you fired
-OK, fine
*proceeds to speed paint it in like 2 hours time, max

That's a terrible model with a worse paint job (still better than I could do!). Very disappointing reveal.

Forge World QC enjoying their holidays, I see.

 CragHack wrote:
I bet the situation was:

-Giuseppe, we need this painted asap.
-But it's christmas man, and I still haven't bought any presents, and i've loads of commissions...
-Do it or you fired
-OK, fine
*proceeds to speed paint it in like 2 hours time, max

I think giuseppe no longer works in forgeworld

That's a pretty dire finish for a mediocre model, oh well.

Everyone keeps saying the model is mediocre. However I want to remind people we thought the same thing about that lizard monster until we saw it without the paintjob.

Part of me wonders if they're aiming for "realistic hobbyist level paint job" to inspire the vibe of: here's what yours might be like. Possibly to combat the wealthy persons GW image they have? No idea but it's inexplicable otherwise, just like their unwillingness to release pretty much anything 40k.

zamerion wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
I bet the situation was:

-Giuseppe, we need this painted asap.
-But it's christmas man, and I still haven't bought any presents, and i've loads of commissions...
-Do it or you fired
-OK, fine
*proceeds to speed paint it in like 2 hours time, max

I think giuseppe no longer works in forgeworld

If that's true it's happened very recently, as he regularly shares his paint jobs on Facebook and I've seen recent stuff, such as the Blood Angels, in the last couple of weeks.

Plus it's obviously one of his efforts, the style is pretty distinctive.

It's a shame they felt like they needed a paintjob on him when clearly there was little to no time for it.
It would have been better to just have pictures of the actual mini imho.
That's clearly a speed paint so I'd love to know the time spent on it

Don't get me wrong, he's not terrible by any stretch but I think it's fair to say the paintjob makes the reveal a bit underwhelming?

Still a better job than 75 percent of those here on Dakka, my stuff included.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Still a better job than 75 percent of those here on Dakka, my stuff included.

75% of the stuff on Dakka isn't being used by a major company to market their products.

People don't take issue with this guy's work because it's bad in the sense of lacking talent & technique, but because it's bad in the sense that it rarely shows off the actual miniature.

Both of those are correct.

For a demo paintjob, it’s not what we’ve come to expect from FW. That doesn’t mean it’s objectively poor. Just not their usual standard.

It's not terrible but feels worse than other characters. I compare it to my conversion and the only thing I feel envious of is the base.

 Overread wrote:
Paint job looks fine, its just that the head looks wrong floating there in a sea of darkness whilst having no clear shading/highlighting to reflect the arching over armour cover. Strikes me that the head and body were painted separately (understandable) but no shading was done on the head to account for it.

Also might have worked better if the painter had gone for less shadowing and instead painted the area around the head brighter instead of black.

Eh, I don't like both SW and FW paint jobs, but this is honestly not that bad. Far less ugly highlights than usual, head is problematic yes but it's mostly down to black neck cover. If it was painted any other color to avoid 'floating head' effect, and if the hair was a bit darker, it would be pretty OK.

My main gripe is the bolter. Why the hell it has front handle used only on PA models? The rear grip should be where the front handle is, like on DA termie plasma cannon, then it would be both more balanced and wouldn't look so ridiculously long...

Space wolves used to be my favourite chapter. How low they have fallen..

Messiah wrote:
Space wolves used to be my favourite chapter. How low they have fallen..

At least the wolfskin doesn't look as terrible as the other FW Space Wolf Terminators. Good God. Those were heinously awful.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Still a better job than 75 percent of those here on Dakka, my stuff included.

You mean bare plastic? This is Dakka.

Nice to see FW are keeping consistent in quality.
Shame it's consistently gak.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Paintjob is bobbins for a demonstration piece.

Isnt it just! Golly it’s a shocker, blending is barely evident, the paint looks rather thick in places. Usually I think people exaggerate how ‘bad’ they claim studio paint jobs are, given the standard of even better hobbyists, but this isn’t good.

 Azreal13 wrote:


If that's true it's happened very recently, as he regularly shares his paint jobs on Facebook and I've seen recent stuff, such as the Blood Angels, in the last couple of weeks.

Plus it's obviously one of his efforts, the style is pretty distinctive.

On his Facebook he says that his last job was painter at FW, and current work in a painter studio called axia painter studio

He always had that written under his profile, iirc. As Azreal mentioned, the style is very distinctive. Unless he just gave some tutorials to another painter, who then copied. That still wouldn't explain why the axe blade looks so amateurish.

zamerion wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:


If that's true it's happened very recently, as he regularly shares his paint jobs on Facebook and I've seen recent stuff, such as the Blood Angels, in the last couple of weeks.

Plus it's obviously one of his efforts, the style is pretty distinctive.

On his Facebook he says that his last job was painter at FW, and current work in a painter studio called axia painter studio

So he's no longer employed by FW but has set up his own studio and sub contracts. He's still doing FW studio pieces and this SW looks like his work.

I'm surprised some people are being so charitable about this paint job. It looks like something I would have knocked up when I was 12 and first thought that I could paint (I couldn't).

That model looks terrible LOL.

More power to the people who like it. I feel like this is an unintentional joke at FWs expense.

Oof. That paintjob is rough.

I thought Horus Hersey was supposed to have crummy paintjobs.
Beautful models that people destroy with sad tabletop quality (and pile on a ton of mud effect to the base and feet to make it "gritty")

Model look kind of cool though. Nice to see decent SW from FW,

I think it's a nifty model (paintjob aside). I love the underslung Heavy Bolter as well.

Kinda always wanted Terminators to get a few 'normal' heavy weapons. DA's getting a Plasma Cannon was a nice touch, but I always thought that a Multi-Melta would be great on a Terminator. Hell the first time I saw this I thought it was a MM, as I was used to the old style Termy Heavy Flamer.

Yeah, I want the Sons of Horus Terminator upgrade kit specifically for that Termie Multimelta.

 Azreal13 wrote:

zamerion wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
I bet the situation was:

-Giuseppe, we need this painted asap.
-But it's christmas man, and I still haven't bought any presents, and i've loads of commissions...
-Do it or you fired
-OK, fine
*proceeds to speed paint it in like 2 hours time, max

I think giuseppe no longer works in forgeworld

If that's true it's happened very recently, as he regularly shares his paint jobs on Facebook and I've seen recent stuff, such as the Blood Angels, in the last couple of weeks.

Plus it's obviously one of his efforts, the style is pretty distinctive.

I’m afraid he has left and he definitely didn’t paint it

 slave.entity wrote:
Oof. That paintjob is rough.

Agree. Couldn't forgeworld hire some better painters!!!! Surely that would pay dividends. Why are they putting up with this poor job? When a paint job takes away from a model then you know it isn't a good thing.

I could have done better!!

makes me worried about whats to come in the future, especially with Sanguinius and Lion El Jonson still to be released. FW should just go back to what they done best, enormous tanks and machines no one can afford. Leave the minis to GW...

 torgoch wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

zamerion wrote:

 CragHack wrote:
I bet the situation was:

-Giuseppe, we need this painted asap.
-But it's christmas man, and I still haven't bought any presents, and i've loads of commissions...
-Do it or you fired
-OK, fine
*proceeds to speed paint it in like 2 hours time, max

I think giuseppe no longer works in forgeworld

If that's true it's happened very recently, as he regularly shares his paint jobs on Facebook and I've seen recent stuff, such as the Blood Angels, in the last couple of weeks.

Plus it's obviously one of his efforts, the style is pretty distinctive.

I’m afraid he has left and he definitely didn’t paint it

Then FW have lost one painter who's style didn't really fit their product and replaced him with one that has the same style but appears less technically capable.


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gaza4 wrote:
makes me worried about whats to come in the future, especially with Sanguinius and Lion El Jonson still to be released. FW should just go back to what they done best, enormous tanks and machines no one can afford. Leave the minis to GW...

FW have done, and continue to do, great infantry scale models, it's simply the ration of clunkers to must-haves has been out of whack for a while, and artistic decisions with paint jobs have compounded that.

gaza4 wrote:
makes me worried about whats to come in the future, especially with Sanguinius and Lion El Jonson still to be released. FW should just go back to what they done best, enormous tanks and machines no one can afford. Leave the minis to GW...

Have you not seen the plastic Guilliman ?

:p

Yeah, the Invictarii and FW Guilliman blow the GW Guilliman out of the water.

Forgeworld can and do do excellent character models but it really needs more standards and consistency with the paint jobs.

As noted Guilliman (and others) are clearly better forgeworld models.

I fear forgeworld are going to be considered a strain on GW's shoe if these standards issues aren't looked into.