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Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 00:25:14


Post by: RogalBob SquareFort


My bet is Fulgrim or someone unorthodox like Pertarabo.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 00:30:03


Post by: leopard


Someone they are wanting to release a new codex or codex supplement around.

that Emperors Children geezer? to coincide with a noise marine release? maybe allowing one or two slaneesh type models in the same as how death guard get nurglings etc?


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 01:15:38


Post by: Bremon


Russ or the Lion is my bet.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 01:36:12


Post by: MrMoustaffa


As long as it's not Sanguinious I'm cool with whatever.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 01:46:21


Post by: Racerguy180


leopard wrote:Someone they are wanting to release a new codex or codex supplement around.

that Emperors Children geezer? to coincide with a noise marine release? maybe allowing one or two slaneesh type models in the same as how death guard get nurglings etc?


I would be down for starting a IIIrd legion army with a new badass snake demon Fulgrim & the ability to take demonettes maybe new infernalrapturess.

loyalist would be one of the not dead ones, my pick would be Vulkan or Russ/Lion. NO FERRUS MANUS OR SANGUINIOUS.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 02:06:57


Post by: Jack Flask


 MrMoustaffa wrote:
As long as it's not Sanguinious I'm cool with whatever.


Be careful what you wish for, they might try releasing Horus, Ferrus Manus, and Kurse in a triumvirate box.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 02:18:21


Post by: Bremon


A “Primarch” version of Abbadon could also be part of Vigilus I suppose; isn’t he meant to be a clone of Horus?


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 02:47:51


Post by: mew28


Jack Flask wrote:
 MrMoustaffa wrote:
As long as it's not Sanguinious I'm cool with whatever.


Be careful what you wish for, they might try releasing Horus, Ferrus Manus, and Kurse in a triumvirate box.

They left a window to bring Iron Hands back with how Fulgrim kept cloning him.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 05:42:55


Post by: Mmmpi


With Ynnid awake, the next primarch will be Asurman, at full power.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 05:47:45


Post by: Asherian Command


If any of the loyal primarchs were to return it could be : The Khan (most likely). Russ (least likely), Corax (possible as he is hunting down lorgar), Vulkan (disappeared might return to give new toys to the primaris), or the Lion.

Definately not returning: Dorn, Sanginius, Ferrus Manus.

Chaos : Angron, Fulgrim. (These two are the most likely

Definately not returning : Lorgar, Omegon, Konrad, Horus, Pertuabo


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 05:53:05


Post by: Delvarus Centurion


RogalBob SquareFort wrote:
My bet is Fulgrim or someone unorthodox like Pertarabo.


I've heard Fulgrim rumours but I've yet to see any evidence for that rumour, the new noise marine model makes me more inclined to believe it, though I want it to be Angron.


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Jack Flask wrote:
 MrMoustaffa wrote:
As long as it's not Sanguinious I'm cool with whatever.


Be careful what you wish for, they might try releasing Horus, Ferrus Manus, and Kurse in a triumvirate box.


If they did that, it would take great effort on the part of GW for me to continue buying 40k novels lol The lore would just be ruined, it would have no credibility if any of the dead Primarchs came back. I could see MAYBE Cruze coming back as his soul wasn't destroyed like Horus.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 07:22:06


Post by: Ghorgul


 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
I could see MAYBE Cruze coming back as his soul wasn't destroyed like Horus.
Heresy!

No but seriously Curze and his ambiguous 'Corona Nox', which is heavily implied to be a Spirit Stone, provides a somewhat credible ret-con if they so desire. So fluff well written, and this is an honest opinion!
I do not find Curze likely though because there are far more popular Primarchs still missing, although I guess GW sometimes just randomly does a model and comes up with rules for it irregardless of how perceived 'demand'.
So yeah I guess everything is possible, which is nice!


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 07:33:39


Post by: nareik


Bremon wrote:
A “Primarch” version of Abbadon could also be part of Vigilus I suppose; isn’t he meant to be a clone of Horus?
the new in universe rumour is now Horus was the clone son of Abaddon. ...

Just something doing the rounds...


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 07:40:23


Post by: Eldarain


For Chaos Fulgrim. They've done Nurgle and Tzeentch so far with a Primarch returning as they revamp the God's range in both AoS and 40k. Angron will get his turn soon enough as well.

Lorgar is an outside possibility due to the codex mentioning him being active in realspace again for the first time. More importantly his history with BobbyG and the fun they could have with that given what the Imperium has become.

For the loyalists I'm thinking the Lion and Russ. Though I'd prefer a barely sane Gladitorial Khan.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 07:42:25


Post by: Stux


 Asherian Command wrote:
If any of the loyal primarchs were to return it could be : The Khan (most likely). Russ (least likely), Corax (possible as he is hunting down lorgar), Vulkan (disappeared might return to give new toys to the primaris), or the Lion.

Definately not returning: Dorn, Sanginius, Ferrus Manus.

Chaos : Angron, Fulgrim. (These two are the most likely

Definately not returning : Lorgar, Omegon, Konrad, Horus, Pertuabo


What makes you rate The Khan as most likely? I figure it's a pretty slim chance given the status of White Scars - pretty underdeveloped faction in 40k and not hugely popular to collect.

Russ seems most likely to me for the same reasons. Though personally I want Lion.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 07:49:36


Post by: Eldarsif


My guess is Fulgrim. That they are releasing the Noise Marine and a box containing new Slaanesh units kinda feels like they are giving Slaanesh some love since most of the other Chaos Gods have had their time in the sun already.

On the Loyalist side I do hope they release the Lion. He would be a nice foil to Roboute and his adherence to the will of daddy.

Edit:

I also wonder if they release Primarchs that allow them to develop a new codex. If they release Fulgrim and some Noise Marines they would have the chance of releasing an Emperor's Children Codex. The same could hypothetically be done with the loyalist primarchs. Release one and then develop one chapter into a whole new codex.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 09:13:21


Post by: Delvarus Centurion


Ghorgul wrote:
 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
I could see MAYBE Cruze coming back as his soul wasn't destroyed like Horus.
Heresy!

No but seriously Curze and his ambiguous 'Corona Nox', which is heavily implied to be a Spirit Stone, provides a somewhat credible ret-con if they so desire. So fluff well written, and this is an honest opinion!
I do not find Curze likely though because there are far more popular Primarchs still missing, although I guess GW sometimes just randomly does a model and comes up with rules for it irregardless of how perceived 'demand'.
So yeah I guess everything is possible, which is nice!


Its more than likely. Cruze may have refused daemonhood, but his soul is in the warp. Torgaddon refused to turn but his soul was bound with a daemon and brought back, there is no reason why this couldn't happen to Cruze. The warp can do what they want with the souls of the dead.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 09:18:30


Post by: Eldarain


 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Ghorgul wrote:
 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
I could see MAYBE Cruze coming back as his soul wasn't destroyed like Horus.
Heresy!

No but seriously Curze and his ambiguous 'Corona Nox', which is heavily implied to be a Spirit Stone, provides a somewhat credible ret-con if they so desire. So fluff well written, and this is an honest opinion!
I do not find Curze likely though because there are far more popular Primarchs still missing, although I guess GW sometimes just randomly does a model and comes up with rules for it irregardless of how perceived 'demand'.
So yeah I guess everything is possible, which is nice!


Its more than likely. Cruze may have refused daemonhood, but his soul is in the warp. Torgaddon refused to turn but his soul was bound with a daemon and brought back, there is no reason why this couldn't happen to Cruze. The warp can do what they want with the souls of the dead.

I always thought it would be cool if his visions of the future were because he existed partially in the warp.

Curze coming back as a giant spirit host Primarch would be pretty crazy. Someone at GW must have noticed that they named the AoS ghost army Nighthaunt. They're most of the way there


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 09:28:56


Post by: phillv85


I think Fulgrim is most likely. My vote for an outsider chancer is Dorn. There seems to be a reasonable push at Imperial Fists (and Crimson Fists at Vigilus) recently.

If the next one is traitor, I think a loyalist will follow shortly after.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 09:35:52


Post by: Techpriestsupport


For Imperial, i'd say leman Russ. Right now the wolves need him.

For chaos, daemon prince versions of either fulgrim or perturabo seem equally likely.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 11:50:16


Post by: Grimtuff


nareik wrote:
Bremon wrote:
A “Primarch” version of Abbadon could also be part of Vigilus I suppose; isn’t he meant to be a clone of Horus?
the new in universe rumour is now Horus was the clone son of Abaddon. ...

Just something doing the rounds...


EDIT- nvm. I see someone's trying to be the funney...


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 11:53:29


Post by: Delvarus Centurion


 Eldarain wrote:
 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Ghorgul wrote:
 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
I could see MAYBE Cruze coming back as his soul wasn't destroyed like Horus.
Heresy!

No but seriously Curze and his ambiguous 'Corona Nox', which is heavily implied to be a Spirit Stone, provides a somewhat credible ret-con if they so desire. So fluff well written, and this is an honest opinion!
I do not find Curze likely though because there are far more popular Primarchs still missing, although I guess GW sometimes just randomly does a model and comes up with rules for it irregardless of how perceived 'demand'.
So yeah I guess everything is possible, which is nice!


Its more than likely. Cruze may have refused daemonhood, but his soul is in the warp. Torgaddon refused to turn but his soul was bound with a daemon and brought back, there is no reason why this couldn't happen to Cruze. The warp can do what they want with the souls of the dead.

I always thought it would be cool if his visions of the future were because he existed partially in the warp.

Curze coming back as a giant spirit host Primarch would be pretty crazy. Someone at GW must have noticed that they named the AoS ghost army Nighthaunt. They're most of the way there


I don't think he should come back but its definitely possible in the lore.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 13:33:34


Post by: Voss


 Asherian Command wrote:
If any of the loyal primarchs were to return it could be : The Khan (most likely). Russ (least likely), Corax (possible as he is hunting down lorgar), Vulkan (disappeared might return to give new toys to the primaris), or the Lion.

Definately not returning: Dorn, Sanginius, Ferrus Manus.

Chaos : Angron, Fulgrim. (These two are the most likely

Definately not returning : Lorgar, Omegon, Konrad, Horus, Pertuabo


I don't even vaguely understand your most and least likely projections, nor that half your 'definitely nots' are quite possible as they're either definitely alive or, in the case of Dorn, suffered a mysterious unknown fate or just plain tricksy (Omegon).


The only ones that should be solid no are Ferrus, Horus, Konrad and Sangy. GW has outright said they'll do whoever catches their interest, it isn't an ordered list.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 13:59:07


Post by: SeanDavid1991


Next will be Traitor.

Remember the people writing the campaigns are 5 year old's getting excited about good guys almost losing and pulling stuff out their arse in the last minute. (INB4 they aren;t 5 year olds you're just a hater. I don't mean this negatively but their good writing on focusing on the novels, their campaigns have always been somewhat predictable)

Bobby G will be nearly run over, All four major Chaos god primarchs have returned, Mortarion, Fulgrim, Angron, Magnus and a new Chaos Primaris Abaddon at the Helm of the black legion, all looks bleak and dire for imperium of man. wooo chaos!

But then, in the last hour of need as bobby G faces death as the blade of Fulgrim falls down on him he's still alive. He opens his eyes and infront of him a giant shield weilded by a golden locks giant. The lion his most unlikely brother has returned to save him. Lion armed with Relics of old caliban to hunt the fallen embraced both old caliban and imperium might. Sword and Shield in hand.

Meanwhile Russ to his right is battling Magnus and Khan to his left fighting Mortarion armed with webway technology. The lion piks up his brother as they together take on Angron and Fulgrim.

I call that all four traitor primarchs will return first to make things look "dark" for the imperium of man.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 14:07:30


Post by: Sim-Life


Who I'd like: Lorgar

Who I think is most likely: Russ

I want Lorgar because in the end he won the Horus Heresy and I'd like to see him gloat.

I think it'll be Russ because his fighty nature would make a good contrast to Guilliman's diplomatic leaning. But that would attribute some sort of competency in how GW plan their releases when we all know they just do whatever because they know it'll sell regardless.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 14:17:33


Post by: Delvarus Centurion


 SeanDavid1991 wrote:
Next will be Traitor.

Remember the people writing the campaigns are 5 year old's getting excited about good guys almost losing and pulling stuff out their arse in the last minute. (INB4 they aren;t 5 year olds you're just a hater. I don't mean this negatively but their good writing on focusing on the novels, their campaigns have always been somewhat predictable)

Bobby G will be nearly run over, All four major Chaos god primarchs have returned, Mortarion, Fulgrim, Angron, Magnus and a new Chaos Primaris Abaddon at the Helm of the black legion, all looks bleak and dire for imperium of man. wooo chaos!

But then, in the last hour of need as bobby G faces death as the blade of Fulgrim falls down on him he's still alive. He opens his eyes and infront of him a giant shield weilded by a golden locks giant. The lion his most unlikely brother has returned to save him. Lion armed with Relics of old caliban to hunt the fallen embraced both old caliban and imperium might. Sword and Shield in hand.

Meanwhile Russ to his right is battling Magnus and Khan to his left fighting Mortarion armed with webway technology. The lion piks up his brother as they together take on Angron and Fulgrim.

I call that all four traitor primarchs will return first to make things look "dark" for the imperium of man.


You mean you think it'll be a traitor priarch, or do you have any proof to support that? There has been two Daemon Primarchs already.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 14:48:51


Post by: Sir Heckington


Hopefully none of them.

Realistically Lion/Khan/Russ, or Angron/Fulgrim.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 16:01:45


Post by: Stux


 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
 SeanDavid1991 wrote:
Next will be Traitor.

Remember the people writing the campaigns are 5 year old's getting excited about good guys almost losing and pulling stuff out their arse in the last minute. (INB4 they aren;t 5 year olds you're just a hater. I don't mean this negatively but their good writing on focusing on the novels, their campaigns have always been somewhat predictable)

Bobby G will be nearly run over, All four major Chaos god primarchs have returned, Mortarion, Fulgrim, Angron, Magnus and a new Chaos Primaris Abaddon at the Helm of the black legion, all looks bleak and dire for imperium of man. wooo chaos!

But then, in the last hour of need as bobby G faces death as the blade of Fulgrim falls down on him he's still alive. He opens his eyes and infront of him a giant shield weilded by a golden locks giant. The lion his most unlikely brother has returned to save him. Lion armed with Relics of old caliban to hunt the fallen embraced both old caliban and imperium might. Sword and Shield in hand.

Meanwhile Russ to his right is battling Magnus and Khan to his left fighting Mortarion armed with webway technology. The lion piks up his brother as they together take on Angron and Fulgrim.

I call that all four traitor primarchs will return first to make things look "dark" for the imperium of man.


You mean you think it'll be a traitor priarch, or do you have any proof to support that? There has been two Daemon Primarchs already.


Of course there's no proof. If there was proof we wouldn't be having this conversation. All we have for evidence is speculating based on the current campaign and previous GW release patterns. Plus a smattering of unsubstantiated rumours that have been around for ages about Fulgrim, Angron, and Russ.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 16:50:56


Post by: Tamwulf


Sanguinius! He lives!


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 17:20:01


Post by: Grimtuff


 Tamwulf wrote:
Sanguinius! He lives!


I too like my stories to have zero consequences...


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 18:30:08


Post by: BrianDavion


we'll see the next loyalist primarch with the next primaris wave I imagine


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 18:38:42


Post by: Creeping Dementia


Khan!!! And he's pissed and a little crazy cause Dark Eldar have been torturing him for millennia.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 20:30:38


Post by: warmaster21


nah the next primarch is going to be one of the deleted legions from history.

but in all seriousness i most likely expect a giant wolven Russ


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 20:54:22


Post by: Excommunicatus


SeanDavid1991 wrote:Next will be Traitor.

Remember the people writing the campaigns are 5 year old's getting excited about good guys almost losing and pulling stuff out their arse in the last minute. (INB4 they aren;t 5 year olds you're just a hater. I don't mean this negatively but their good writing on focusing on the novels, their campaigns have always been somewhat predictable)

Bobby G will be nearly run over, All four major Chaos god primarchs have returned, Mortarion, Fulgrim, Angron, Magnus and a new Chaos Primaris Abaddon at the Helm of the black legion, all looks bleak and dire for imperium of man. wooo chaos!

But then, in the last hour of need as bobby G faces death as the blade of Fulgrim falls down on him he's still alive. He opens his eyes and infront of him a giant shield weilded by a golden locks giant. The lion his most unlikely brother has returned to save him. Lion armed with Relics of old caliban to hunt the fallen embraced both old caliban and imperium might. Sword and Shield in hand.

Meanwhile Russ to his right is battling Magnus and Khan to his left fighting Mortarion armed with webway technology. The lion piks up his brother as they together take on Angron and Fulgrim.

I call that all four traitor primarchs will return first to make things look "dark" for the imperium of man.


This is itself a better storyline than GW could manage, ironically.

-----------------------

Fulgrim seems to be the common choice, but like others have mentioned I haven't seen anything particularly concrete.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 21:05:08


Post by: casvalremdeikun


What I would like? Dorn, the Lion, or Fulgrim.

What I will likely get? Fulgrim and Russ.

I am not opposed to Russ, I just think the story for the Lion would be nuts since his Legion is behaving in a way that is diametrically opposed to how he would want. And ten thousand years of sins to wash away would weigh heavily on the Primarch, who in my opinion, seems to be the most self-loathing. Fulgrim is a good chance. I think Emperor's Children have a decent chance of getting a big release this year. GW is going to want to replace those resin upgrades with plastic.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 21:29:50


Post by: Voss


 Creeping Dementia wrote:
Khan!!! And he's pissed and a little crazy cause Dark Eldar have been torturing him for millennia.

I can't tell you how excited I'd be for Khan Discount Russ, less savage and even less interesting, but with free emo torture angst.

The Lion or Russ could at least push events somewhere, or act in opposition to Roboute. (I still want a divided Imperium, or at least different philosophies in play, something that actually justifies all the ink spilled over the years on non-codex chapters)


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/24 23:58:55


Post by: CREEEEEEEEED


Apparently the GW people in the Vigilus Q&A gave a wink and nod to angron being next. I believe Valrak included it in his vigilus summary video.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 00:00:14


Post by: Crazyterran


 Eldarsif wrote:
My guess is Fulgrim. That they are releasing the Noise Marine and a box containing new Slaanesh units kinda feels like they are giving Slaanesh some love since most of the other Chaos Gods have had their time in the sun already.

On the Loyalist side I do hope they release the Lion. He would be a nice foil to Roboute and his adherence to the will of daddy.

Edit:

I also wonder if they release Primarchs that allow them to develop a new codex. If they release Fulgrim and some Noise Marines they would have the chance of releasing an Emperor's Children Codex. The same could hypothetically be done with the loyalist primarchs. Release one and then develop one chapter into a whole new codex.


You mean the Lion and his near Dorn levels of adhering to Daddy’s will (unless it will benefit him)?


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 04:06:30


Post by: Tibs Ironblood


I don't see Dorn being the pick because he would get along too well with Guiliman. They are both level headed and reasonable with no real extreme quirks or agendas that would create an interesting narrative. Someone like Lion or Russ would be a better pick to come back for the loyalists due to their own sub faction status and they would be more easily inserted into the narrative. You could write in just about any of them coming back in some form, but for now I see GW going for the big names up front so Lion or Russ for loyalists and Fulgrim and Angron for chaos.
After that we can see others come back.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 05:31:27


Post by: fraser1191


Maybe they'll release Omeagon as the GK Primarch


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 13:22:33


Post by: Grand.Master.Raziel


Either El'Jonson or Russ are the most likely Loyalists if GW wants a narrative where the Imperium is not all bestest buds with each other. The Lion and the Wolf are the least likely loyalist Primarchs to just go along with Guilliman's agenda without question.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 14:24:08


Post by: Brotherjanus


The Blood Angels find themselves defending their last bastion on Baal from a seemingly endless horde of Bloodletters with Ka'Bandha at its head. Driven back into an inner courtyard, the last remaining defenders prepare for the end, letting their bloodlust take them and chanting litanies to the Emperor and Sanguinius. A wounded Dante marshals his men for a bold attack when a section of wall explodes, showering the courtyard in rubble. Ka'Bandha rushes through, cleaving several dazed marines in twain. Bloodletters spill through the rent in the wall and with a bellow, the great daemon lunges towards the golden armored chapter master. Axes clash like thunder as the massively armored bulk of red flesh pushes Dante into the group of desperate soldiers. Fatigue threatens to overwhelm the old veteran and with a piercing cry, is driven to his knees. Suddenly, a shimmering rift appears overhead and with a blinding flash of light Ka'Bandha's immense bulk seemingly detonates from within. When the smoke and bloody mist clears all eyes widen in shock. Standing in front of Dante with hand outstretched is Mephiston. But it isn't Mephiston. This familiar librarian is at least a meter taller and jet black feathered wings flare out behind him as a dark mirror of their beloved Sanguinius. "Rise, Brother", the chief librarian says, grasping Dante by the arm, "we have much to discuss."

So, not a Primarch but a twin of Sanguinius. A fully realized Mephiston as a true successor and an awesome potential model. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 16:06:18


Post by: Median Trace


I don’t see why they couldn’t do a reincarnated Manus entombed in a special dreadnought. That could be an amazing model. He has the most reason to come back and want to destroy some traitors. If it was done though, it would need to follow a Fulrim release. But that won’t happen.

It’s going to be Fulgrim, Angron and some other loyalist Primarch that will mostly be the same type of model as Gman with very little aesthetic difference.

I wish I played Chaos because the Traitor Primarch’s have been great models so far and I don’t see the future ones being any less cool.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 16:28:13


Post by: Nevelon


Fulgrim and Angron are the easy traitors. Which comes first depends a lot on how resculpts of their associated cult troops goes. I’d be surprised if any of the others come before these two for those who have fallen from the Emperor’s Light.

Loyalist is a lot harder to pin down. Thematically, Russ is an easy fit. We’ve already had some of his lost sons coming out of the warp, and there is the whole Magnus thing that it would be east to continue story wise. Not sure what else could accompany him model wise. But that makes him possible as a splash release. BL book, maybe primaris up one of the old HQs, release him and call it done.

Lion is another one that easy from a fluff POV to just drop. I think he brings less to the table story wise then Russ, but would make for a nice foil to Guiliman. While russ would be more content to rampage around fighting stuff, The Lion would be competing with RG in his own space, which could make for some nice friction.

Khan/Vulcan/Corax/Dorn I think are all low probability, but possible. They all could be a splash with an upgrade sprue, re-do of a character or two, and maybe something new. I think if we ever get primaris bikes, that is when the White Scars will get their moment. The rest are very much in a whenever they want them timeslot.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 16:32:35


Post by: Wolf_in_Human_Shape


It better be Angron!


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 17:44:01


Post by: Bremon


 Brotherjanus wrote:
The Blood Angels find themselves defending their last bastion on Baal from a seemingly endless horde of Bloodletters with Ka'Bandha at its head. Driven back into an inner courtyard, the last remaining defenders prepare for the end, letting their bloodlust take them and chanting litanies to the Emperor and Sanguinius. A wounded Dante marshals his men for a bold attack when a section of wall explodes, showering the courtyard in rubble. Ka'Bandha rushes through, cleaving several dazed marines in twain. Bloodletters spill through the rent in the wall and with a bellow, the great daemon lunges towards the golden armored chapter master. Axes clash like thunder as the massively armored bulk of red flesh pushes Dante into the group of desperate soldiers. Fatigue threatens to overwhelm the old veteran and with a piercing cry, is driven to his knees. Suddenly, a shimmering rift appears overhead and with a blinding flash of light Ka'Bandha's immense bulk seemingly detonates from within. When the smoke and bloody mist clears all eyes widen in shock. Standing in front of Dante with hand outstretched is Mephiston. But it isn't Mephiston. This familiar librarian is at least a meter taller and jet black feathered wings flare out behind him as a dark mirror of their beloved Sanguinius. "Rise, Brother", the chief librarian says, grasping Dante by the arm, "we have much to discuss."

So, not a Primarch but a twin of Sanguinius. A fully realized Mephiston as a true successor and an awesome potential model. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Doesn’t a beefed up Sanguinor make more sense? Give him a Daemon Prince size model, and stats fitting of a Primarch representing that he’s a warp tainted psychic imprint of Sanguinius.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 18:00:04


Post by: fraser1191


I think Dorn minus one hand, where he'll graft on the emperors Claw on his stub. I figure IF since they were the first chapter without a dedicated book to get an upgrade sprue. But I guess there's the argument that since they got their upgrade sprue that they won't get anything else.

So Raven Guard, Salamanders, white Scars are left to get upgrades. Of those three I'd hope for Corax.

Edit
I guess I forgot Iron hands but unless a clone of his escapes I doubt he's coming around anytime soon. That being said he wouldn't have his "iron hands" and would make for a decent arc


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 18:13:46


Post by: Brotherjanus


Bremon wrote:
 Brotherjanus wrote:
The Blood Angels find themselves defending their last bastion on Baal from a seemingly endless horde of Bloodletters with Ka'Bandha at its head. Driven back into an inner courtyard, the last remaining defenders prepare for the end, letting their bloodlust take them and chanting litanies to the Emperor and Sanguinius. A wounded Dante marshals his men for a bold attack when a section of wall explodes, showering the courtyard in rubble. Ka'Bandha rushes through, cleaving several dazed marines in twain. Bloodletters spill through the rent in the wall and with a bellow, the great daemon lunges towards the golden armored chapter master. Axes clash like thunder as the massively armored bulk of red flesh pushes Dante into the group of desperate soldiers. Fatigue threatens to overwhelm the old veteran and with a piercing cry, is driven to his knees. Suddenly, a shimmering rift appears overhead and with a blinding flash of light Ka'Bandha's immense bulk seemingly detonates from within. When the smoke and bloody mist clears all eyes widen in shock. Standing in front of Dante with hand outstretched is Mephiston. But it isn't Mephiston. This familiar librarian is at least a meter taller and jet black feathered wings flare out behind him as a dark mirror of their beloved Sanguinius. "Rise, Brother", the chief librarian says, grasping Dante by the arm, "we have much to discuss."

So, not a Primarch but a twin of Sanguinius. A fully realized Mephiston as a true successor and an awesome potential model. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Doesn’t a beefed up Sanguinor make more sense? Give him a Daemon Prince size model, and stats fitting of a Primarch representing that he’s a warp tainted psychic imprint of Sanguinius.


Mephiston is a separate character with his own personality that has a unique physical change happening that hasn't been completed. Sanguinor has no personality and would just end up being Sanguinius reincarnated. You could go either way, but I prefer to leave heroically dead primarchs heroically dead.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 19:12:24


Post by: Bremon


...so you would prefer Mephiston be fully transformed into a Daemon? Agree to disagree.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 19:28:06


Post by: Voss


 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
It better be Angron!


I suspect Fulgrim paired with the long awaited Keeper of Secrets release. Which needs to happen soon, as daemons are almost a completely finished all-plastic army at this point, and they've been polishing that bust for Age of Sigmar, too.

Just drop Fulgrim, KoS, noise marines and Slaanesh cultists for Valentine's Day and call it a good one.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 20:18:21


Post by: mew28


Hoping for a Fulgrim/Ferus duo release myself


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 21:46:20


Post by: Phobosftw


Well it has to be a loyalist primarch, to even things out, after that it's Fulgrim ftw -to tie in with the semi big emperor's children release, after that how about Angron, Russ (wulfen) and The Lion(already awake from his nap) - I have no idea what I am talking about.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/25 21:51:52


Post by: Delvarus Centurion


Sanny boy living is by far the stupidest idea ever thought of. It would be the equivalent of saying the emperor only pretended to be stuck on the throne he's actually been weight lifting and getting ripped for the Indomatus crusade and with that here he comes.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/26 00:36:50


Post by: mew28


 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Sanny boy living is by far the stupidest idea ever thought of. It would be the equivalent of saying the emperor only pretended to be stuck on the throne he's actually been weight lifting and getting ripped for the Indomatus crusade and with that here he comes.

TBH I would still buy the model.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/26 01:09:30


Post by: cuda1179


For the traitors, it's almost certain it would either be Fulgrim or Angron.

Loyalists are a murky selection. Most probably would be either Russ or Lionel Johnson.

Russ could be the utter beatstick the Imperium is missing, but I think Lionel would be a bit cooler story wise. No one on the Rock knows he's there, so imagine the jaws hitting the floor and crap in their power armor when he just suddenly steps out. "BTW's guys, here's the key for that vault of Dark-Age Tech, let's put something together for me."


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Vulkan is not likely at all, but I always liked his humanity. He actually sees people as equals and not hordes for the grinder, so he may eventually have words for RG.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/26 03:13:04


Post by: Delvarus Centurion


 mew28 wrote:
 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Sanny boy living is by far the stupidest idea ever thought of. It would be the equivalent of saying the emperor only pretended to be stuck on the throne he's actually been weight lifting and getting ripped for the Indomatus crusade and with that here he comes.

TBH I would still buy the model.


I would if I collected BA but i'd hate myself for doing so lol


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/26 04:26:12


Post by: Voss


 mew28 wrote:
Hoping for a Fulgrim/Ferus duo release myself

eh? What good is a 10000 year old decapitated corpse? The EC already played football with his head, what good is he?
There's already one primarch running around with a personal grudge against Fulgrim, why drag back a dead one, who also undermines the major theme of his chapter? (Ferrus disliked the mania for bionics over flesh, and planned to wean his chapter off that problem, by sacrificing his artefact hands)


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/26 05:15:51


Post by: Delvarus Centurion


Voss wrote:
 mew28 wrote:
Hoping for a Fulgrim/Ferus duo release myself

eh? What good is a 10000 year old decapitated corpse? The EC already played football with his head, what good is he?
There's already one primarch running around with a personal grudge against Fulgrim, why drag back a dead one, who also undermines the major theme of his chapter? (Ferrus disliked the mania for bionics over flesh, and planned to wean his chapter off that problem, by sacrificing his artefact hands)


The headless corpse didn't stop the dude in sleepy hollow lol


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/26 13:15:52


Post by: First Among Gators


Voss wrote:
 mew28 wrote:
Hoping for a Fulgrim/Ferus duo release myself

eh? What good is a 10000 year old decapitated corpse? The EC already played football with his head, what good is he?
There's already one primarch running around with a personal grudge against Fulgrim, why drag back a dead one, who also undermines the major theme of his chapter? (Ferrus disliked the mania for bionics over flesh, and planned to wean his chapter off that problem, by sacrificing his artefact hands)

I don't disagree with that, but just pointing out, Guilliman has a grudge against everyone at this point


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/27 05:25:52


Post by: novembermike


It'd be interesting to have Fulgrim as both the next loyalist and Chaos Primarch. We know there's a loyalist version held by Trazyn and the Chaos version should still be running around wherever chaos people are.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/27 06:15:58


Post by: gorgon


Didn't see anyone mention it, but (now semi-retired?) rumormonger extraordinaire 75Hastings69 said this back in 2016 after plastic Ahriman was released:

“Looks good, I’m looking forward to seeing Magnus, Angron, Mortarion, Russ & Guilliman now


He's hit on three of five so far. So while his list might not have covered every primarch in the works (Fulgrim?), I think it's a good bet that Russ arrives next and/or soonish on the loyalist side.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/27 06:23:35


Post by: First Among Gators


He's probably right looking at what we now know. Russ is easily the safest bet for loyalists from this point, as is Angron and Fulgrim for traitors. Be interesting to see! Russ is going to HURT in melee!


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/27 07:42:41


Post by: Nibbler


I'd be in for a nice Xenos "Primarch".

Maybe a new big Harlequin Model (like the Avatar of Caine for CW, or the Yncarne for the Ynnari).
I know, that the Xenos are no priority of the running release cycle (or edition), but it would be a nice move nontheless.
Otherwise I would be down for a nice Fulgrim Daemon-Primarch and an impressive Leman Were-Russ Viking Guy.



Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/27 08:27:27


Post by: Techpriestsupport


I'd have lied to see thrakka ghazkhull as a "primork".


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/27 10:13:38


Post by: Dysartes


 Techpriestsupport wrote:
I'd have lied to see thrakka ghazkhull as a "primork".


I'd much rather see the concept of a "Prime-Ork" dropped into a black hole...

As fort he actual Primarchs, there are only four we can probably rule out - Ferrus Manus, Sanguinius, Horus Lupercal and Konrad Curze.

Alpharius, Omegon and Dorn fall into a grey area where there are stories of their deaths, but the body never appears on screen.

All the rest are fair game at some point.

I'd expect Fulgrim and Angron (probably in that order) as the next two Chaos Primarchs, and I do think the Lion and the Wolf are the most likely for the Imperials. I have no idea which order GW will go with, though.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/27 10:17:06


Post by: First Among Gators


Alpharius returning would be the hypest thing in the world


Automatically Appended Next Post:
but tehres 0% chance of him being the next primarch tho


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/27 15:59:22


Post by: HoundsofDemos


I don't care who comes back as long as they don't retcon anyone who is dead/ very likely dead.

So on the dead list

Kurze, Horus, Sang, Fenrus (dead). Likely dead, Dorn

Sang especially, if they bring him back I'm pretty much done.



Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/27 16:19:17


Post by: fraser1191


They'll bring sanguinus back via the sanguinor either by possession or resurrection


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/28 21:39:39


Post by: Delvarus Centurion


 fraser1191 wrote:
They'll bring sanguinus back via the sanguinor either by possession or resurrection


Sure you would, why not stop there why not bring back the old ones and the whole eldar empire while you're at it.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/28 21:41:39


Post by: Asherian Command


 fraser1191 wrote:
They'll bring sanguinus back via the sanguinor either by possession or resurrection

Sangy is dead, get over it.

Ferrus is dead too.

Horus is mega dead.

They aren't bringing em back.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/28 23:19:08


Post by: Justyn


but in all seriousness i most likely expect a giant wolven Russ


Gods no. The SW are already a big enough joke.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/28 23:25:40


Post by: Asherian Command


Justyn wrote:
but in all seriousness i most likely expect a giant wolven Russ


Gods no. The SW are already a big enough joke.


Maybe he acts more like a berserker and in fits of rage goes from a wise and grizzled Russ into a raging psychopathic badass.


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/29 01:36:57


Post by: Delvarus Centurion


 Asherian Command wrote:
Justyn wrote:
but in all seriousness i most likely expect a giant wolven Russ


Gods no. The SW are already a big enough joke.


Maybe he acts more like a berserker and in fits of rage goes from a wise and grizzled Russ into a raging psychopathic badass.


I collect SW and if they made Russ a big werewolf I wouldn't buy it, I'd use the 30k model, I don't even use Wulfen, I use normal marines for their rules, plus their models are horrifically bad. There are enough cool monster daemon Primarchs, making Russ a werewolf would be GW totally missing the mark, though they often do that lol


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/29 01:46:20


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’d like to venture it’s a given we’ll see Fulgrim and Angry Ron at some point. Fulgrim next year (well, 2019), and possibly Angry Ron then as well.

As for Loyalist? I honestly don’t know.

I can see the Dark Angels taking The Rock into Imperium Nihilus, which could be the catalyst for The Lion getting out of bed at long last. That’d give both halves their supreme leader


Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/29 14:36:23


Post by: Jack Flask


I was looking through Lexicanum the other day and I noticed that there were references added recently to some of the Primarch pages which (while I don't own the actual books to verify) seems to imply that GW is prepared to bring most of the not dead ones back.

  • Perturabo himself coordinated a massive offensive against heavily defended worlds in the Segmentum Obscurus post the 13th Black Crusade. (8e CSM codex)

  • Lorgar ended his exile at the formation of the Great Rift and has been seen at the head of a massive Word Bearers force (8e CSM codex)

  • Corax
    Spoiler:
    has apparently been mutated by the warp into a creature "made of darkness and shadows" and is seen hunting the Word Bearers on Sicarius (their new daemonic homeworld), gets into a fight with Lorgar who took a hiatus from his exile?, and then swears to hunt Lorgar down now that he "has his scent". No idea when this occurs but it is definitely after the heresy.
    (this is spoilers for 'Shadows of the Past' from the "Sons of the Emperor" anthology)

  • The 8e Space Marine codex re-mentions Jaghatai Khan having been lost in the webway. (I'm not sure what the context of the mention is since I haven't bought the codex yet, but I'd say that it doesn't hurt for GW to mention him)

  • Magnus is mentioned as knowing where Leman Russ is post-disappearance. (this information is suspect though since it's cited as being from "A Thousand Sons" which is a Heresy era novel. I figure it still is worth mentioning since the citation number could just be wrong)

  • With all of that in mind I'd say it wouldn't be totally impossible to see Perturabo, Lorgar, Corax, or Jaghatai sometime in the distant future. Vulkan is a possibility as well since we now know he can't die...
    Rogal Dorn and Alpharius/Omegon are kinda up in the air since there's no confirmation that who if any of them are dead. (except that time Dorn shredded the hell out of Alpharius)


    My personal guess is that we'll see the next Imperial Primarch in either part 2 or 3 of Vigilus (just like Gathering Storm...) and it will be either be The Lion (he's currently the most available of his brothers) or Dorn (based mainly on peoples' speculation about GW releasing the IF Primaris upgrade).
    Just a gut feeling, but I can't picture Russ showing up to Vigilus. Also of the three, IF and it's successors have committed the most troops to the campaign over both the DA and SW.




    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/29 15:44:19


    Post by: fraser1191


     Asherian Command wrote:
     fraser1191 wrote:
    They'll bring sanguinus back via the sanguinor either by possession or resurrection

    Sangy is dead, get over it.

    Ferrus is dead too.

    Horus is mega dead.

    They aren't bringing em back.


    I don't really care which Primarch they bring back, this is just a speculation thread after all.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/29 16:14:35


    Post by: DudleyGrim


    What if Abaddon goes full Daemon Prince with the Vigilus campaign? Giving us Chaos players a generic "Daemon Primarch" to run with our Undivided armies?


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/30 09:45:05


    Post by: Delvarus Centurion


    DudleyGrim wrote:
    What if Abaddon goes full Daemon Prince with the Vigilus campaign? Giving us Chaos players a generic "Daemon Primarch" to run with our Undivided armies?


    Nah, he would rather have a whole in the head than become a daemon prince, I'd rather see him go to Molech and make the same deal as Horus. Also he needs to be human, all warmasters would be, as they need to be the leader of the chaos forces in the materium, so he can't exactly lead when he has to constantly go back to the warp. Leading the forces is a daily task.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/30 23:30:27


    Post by: Karhedron


    DudleyGrim wrote:
    What if Abaddon goes full Daemon Prince with the Vigilus campaign? Giving us Chaos players a generic "Daemon Primarch" to run with our Undivided armies?

    A fully amped-up Abby with Primarch-sized model and suitable rules would certainly be OK by me. He would basically function as Horus in all but name.

    By the same token, they could release a suped-up Sanguinor for BA players so that we have our Primarch-equivalent without actually undermining Dante or Sangiunius's sacrifice.

    For Chaos Primarchs, I think Fulgrim will be next. For Imps, it has to be either the Lion or the Wolf.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/30 23:40:51


    Post by: Carlovonsexron


    He won't be next by any means, but the Custodes codex makes it painfully obvious that they want an option to bring back Valdor.

    I would enjoy that, as personally I'm not really taken by his horus heresy model and would like to see another take on him.

    That being the case I'll echo thw thoughts of many and say that the obvious primarchs for the loyalists will be Russ (I think he'll be the next one for no particular reason) and the Lion.

    And for Chaos of course Fulgrim (who I think will hopefullly coincide with a big 2019 Slaanesh revamp) and Angron.

    More controversial is that I think Abbaddon will be a “count as” primarch for Chaos undivided, and that Lorgar, Perturabo etc arent terribly likely to he produced any time soon.

    I also suspect that the blood angels will get a “count as” primarch with the sanguinor. And that other Primarchs after him lthat would pull from the regular spacemarine codex aren't likely. Which is sad as I really want a Dorn model.

    But its at that point when all the current astartes factions have a primarch or equivalent that me might see Valdor, and maybe even a remote possibility of a primarch equivalent for the grey knights.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/31 10:09:03


    Post by: Lobukia


    I already got Papa Smurf... so I don’t really care...

    But I’d love to see the Lion come back too.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2018/12/31 11:49:10


    Post by: WhiteDog


    I might have a biased point of view, but I think the vigilus campaign is good step to the reappearance of the Lion. There's some Dark Angels mumbo jumbo going on in vigilus, and the arrival of a massive fallen army with Luther could force him out of his retreat.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/04 14:15:50


    Post by: Dice4thedicegod


     Asherian Command wrote:
    Justyn wrote:
    but in all seriousness i most likely expect a giant wolven Russ


    Gods no. The SW are already a big enough joke.


    Maybe he acts more like a berserker and in fits of rage goes from a wise and grizzled Russ into a raging psychopathic badass.


    They could sell us two models! Regular Russ and werewolf Russ. Genius!


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/04 15:22:18


    Post by: ServiceGames


    Crossing my fingers for The Lion, but my guess is that it will be another Chaos Daemon Primarch. With all of the new Slaanesh models that came out with Wrath & Rapture as well as the new Noise Marine, it wouldn't surprise me at all if it was Fulgrim.

    SG


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/04 15:47:11


    Post by: Asherian Command


     First Among Gators wrote:
    Alpharius returning would be the hypest thing in the world


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
    but tehres 0% chance of him being the next primarch tho


    Yeah on the account of him being headless and more dead than sanginius. MAybe Omegeon but very unlikely Alpha legion aren't that popular.

    Seeing russ get a 40k model would be interesting.

    They could sell us two models! Regular Russ and werewolf Russ. Genius!


    More like boost the price from 50$ to 100$ to buy him.



    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/05 04:27:18


    Post by: First Among Gators


    My heart goes out to anyone who truly thinks they won't bring Alpharius at some point.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/05 04:51:16


    Post by: stratigo


     First Among Gators wrote:
    My heart goes out to anyone who truly thinks they won't bring Alpharius at some point.


    They already brought him back man, didn’t you notice


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/05 08:07:45


    Post by: Pandion40


    I’m not a fan of the idea of bringing back any of the dead Primarchs, but I could accept it if GW tells a good enough story.

    Star Wars bringing back Darth Maul was really stupid but they did some good stories with him in the clone wars cartoon so I could forgive the stupidity if not forget it.

    Who I want as the next primarch released goes to something novembermike said earlier. My wish list is headed by a dual release of Demonic Fulgrim and Clone Fulgrim from the Bile novels, it’ll never happen but that’s what I’d like.

    I want Demonic Fulgrim to have guilliman on the ropes in a one on one fight only for clone Fulgrim to intervene and save Guilliman. Lots to explore like how can you ever trust the clone of a traitor Primarch, even if he’s loyal now he’s already fallen to chaos once. Plus his connection to Bile and the necrons doesn’t exactly improve his credibility. It would introduce a third element maybe loyal but not trusted or directly supported by the imperium, you can have some factions in the imperium helping him whilst others are trying to take him down.

    A conversation between both Fulgrims would be very interesting. Can’t see it happening but it’d be cool.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/09 15:58:38


    Post by: zerosignal


    Alpharius was killed by Dorn (or maybe it was Omegon?)

    Either way, one of the twins definitely bit it.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/10 02:32:33


    Post by: Niiai


    Can someone Do a head count on both sides of all 18 and last known information?

    Russ, into chaos. Last seen 13 company during that campain.
    Khan, web way.
    Lion, awaken from stasis in the rock.
    Raven guy, hunting chaos like russ?
    Salamanders, unknown?

    We know necrons have 1 in stasis.

    Alpharius and Omega. One suposebly dead, the other is at large.

    The rest.... Dead or on a demon world?

    The ext once should finish up the chaos quartet.

    Loyalists should get either lion or russ and progress the storyline for those 2. The resy are a bit bland, they do not even have their own codex. (Rip blood angels.)

    Russ could do some reading of the bones psykick tricks.

    I do not know if the lion had any psykick powers?

    Khan would be fun if he teamed up with some harlequieens to fight chaos.



    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/10 08:07:44


    Post by: Ginjitzu


    I think it'd be cool if it turned out the Khan had been captured after chasing the Dark Eldar into the Webway and has spent the past 10,000 or so years forced to fight Gladiator style in the arenas of Comorragh. Khan on a 10,000 year undefeated streak would be awesome.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/10 08:30:44


    Post by: Hawky


    Ideally none if you ask me, but if one had to come, I'd vote for Wulfen Russ, acceptable is Vulcan or cloned Manus.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/10 21:22:23


    Post by: Chimaera


    The Lion is my guess.

    1. His location is already known like Guilliman.
    2. Things aren’t quite desperate enough for the Wolves yet.
    3. The Lion will meet with Cypher to get his sword back. He will then hear Cyphers side of the story.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/10 22:12:16


    Post by: fraser1191


    I thought Omeagon was supposed to be the Grey knights Primarch or some silly rumor like that


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/11 21:12:12


    Post by: Karhedron


    zerosignal wrote:
    Alpharius was killed by Dorn (or maybe it was Omegon?)

    Either way, one of the twins definitely bit it.

    It was Alpharius that Dorn killed. The novel has PoV stuff from both Alpharius and Omegon meaning there is no creative ambiguity at play


    Automatically Appended Next Post:
     Ginjitzu wrote:
    I think it'd be cool if it turned out the Khan had been captured after chasing the Dark Eldar into the Webway and has spent the past 10,000 or so years forced to fight Gladiator style in the arenas of Comorragh. Khan on a 10,000 year undefeated streak would be awesome.

    I always secretly hoped that Khaine's Gate in Comorragh was not actually sealed against daemonic incursion but against a seriously narked-off Khan who has been hammering his way in ever since he chased the DE into the webway.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/11 21:24:48


    Post by: Galef


     Chimaera wrote:
    He will then hear Cyphers side of the story.
    Which is very likely to put him at odds with Bobby G, thus create a potential for yet another Imperial civil war between those loyal to Bobby G and those loyal to the Lion.

    Or not.

    -


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/12 08:16:09


    Post by: Dysartes


     Chimaera wrote:
    The Lion is my guess.

    1. His location is already known like Guilliman.
    2. Things aren’t quite desperate enough for the Wolves yet.
    3. The Lion will meet with Cypher to get his sword back. He will then hear Cyphers side of the story.


    In the case of point 1, you mean known to the audience, right? I'm pretty sure that, in-setting, only the Watchers in the Dark know where the Lion sleeps tonight...


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/12 16:30:13


    Post by: Median Trace


    I think no matter who they choose, it needs to fulfil a couple of requirements...

    1) Aesthetically speaking, it needs to be a true centerpiece model. Both of the Demon Primarchs do this really well. They just stand out as great models contrasting against the rest of a person’s army.

    2.) It needs to stand alone as a LoW. The idea of a support buffing LoW is great. But GW limited Bobby G’s Best buff to a small fraction of army lists. That was a missed opportunity by GW. Both from a financial aspect and a gaming aspect. Again I reference the Demon Primarchs as an example. They work as a unit by themselves.


    With those two conditions in mind, I think the Primarch needs to be a melee beatstick that gives a small buff to his chapter. The type of unit that is a fast moving hammer that the opponent has to deal with Round 1.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/12 22:18:39


    Post by: Karol


    This maybe a stupid question, but anyone knows who was the primarch of grey knights? And no I don't think he is going to return. I would put my money on Russ or the Lion returning.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/13 00:37:34


    Post by: Tygre


    Karol wrote:
    This maybe a stupid question, but anyone knows who was the primarch of grey knights? And no I don't think he is going to return. I would put my money on Russ or the Lion returning.


    Firstly the Grey Knights are not one of the 20 original legions, nor an offshoot of one of them. The Grey Knights were founded from marines from various legions, including loyalists from traitor legions I believe, as such they did not have a Primarch.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/14 00:43:20


    Post by: Chimaera


     Dysartes wrote:
     Chimaera wrote:
    The Lion is my guess.

    1. His location is already known like Guilliman.
    2. Things aren’t quite desperate enough for the Wolves yet.
    3. The Lion will meet with Cypher to get his sword back. He will then hear Cyphers side of the story.


    In the case of point 1, you mean known to the audience, right? I'm pretty sure that, in-setting, only the Watchers in the Dark know where the Lion sleeps tonight...


    How hard would it be for Azrael’s little watcher friend to tug on his coat tail and say i’ve got something to show you beneath the Rock. In a nutshell the Lion is easily accessible in a sense where all of the others who are lost are not. Plus aswell,he is just held in stasis, no need for anyone else’s intervention to bring him back to life.



    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/14 21:03:48


    Post by: fraser1191


     Chimaera wrote:
     Dysartes wrote:
     Chimaera wrote:
    The Lion is my guess.

    1. His location is already known like Guilliman.
    2. Things aren’t quite desperate enough for the Wolves yet.
    3. The Lion will meet with Cypher to get his sword back. He will then hear Cyphers side of the story.


    In the case of point 1, you mean known to the audience, right? I'm pretty sure that, in-setting, only the Watchers in the Dark know where the Lion sleeps tonight...


    How hard would it be for Azrael’s little watcher friend to tug on his coat tail and say i’ve got something to show you beneath the Rock. In a nutshell the Lion is easily accessible in a sense where all of the others who are lost are not. Plus aswell,he is just held in stasis, no need for anyone else’s intervention to bring him back to life.



    I agree. After all this is more or less why Guilliman returned, his body was on display, they sold tickets to see him


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/17 01:46:58


    Post by: Davor


    Tygre wrote:
    Karol wrote:
    This maybe a stupid question, but anyone knows who was the primarch of grey knights? And no I don't think he is going to return. I would put my money on Russ or the Lion returning.


    Firstly the Grey Knights are not one of the 20 original legions, nor an offshoot of one of them. The Grey Knights were founded from marines from various legions, including loyalists from traitor legions I believe, as such they did not have a Primarch.


    I didn't think Grey Knights were founded from other marines. Is this a retcon? I only had the third edition codex, so anything after that, I don't know about. I thought the psykers they got used the geneseed from the emperor. Has this changed?


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/17 03:22:39


    Post by: Tygre


    Davor wrote:
    Tygre wrote:
    Karol wrote:
    This maybe a stupid question, but anyone knows who was the primarch of grey knights? And no I don't think he is going to return. I would put my money on Russ or the Lion returning.


    Firstly the Grey Knights are not one of the 20 original legions, nor an offshoot of one of them. The Grey Knights were founded from marines from various legions, including loyalists from traitor legions I believe, as such they did not have a Primarch.


    I didn't think Grey Knights were founded from other marines. Is this a retcon? I only had the third edition codex, so anything after that, I don't know about. I thought the psykers they got used the geneseed from the emperor. Has this changed?


    The Grey Knights origins were expanded upon in the Horus Heresy series. Originally they were a secret inserted in to the 2nd founding, when after the heresy they split up the legions into chapters, hence Chapter 666. The Emperor geneseed idea has always been fanfiction and their geneseed source never stated. The Horus Heresy series has expanded the lore, that near the end of the heresy a special daemon hunting force was founded under the auspices of Malcador the Sigilite. Basically Malcador, with the approval of the Emperor, set up a group that had experience with Daemons, as a training cadre with hundreds upon hundreds of suitable candidates from throughout the galaxy. They were set up on Titan and it was basically put in the warp and when they re-emerged it was during the 2nd founding. Apparently time pasted quicker for them as well, the original members were not alive when they emerged. The Inquisition slipped them into the 2nd founding to keep them secret. The inquisitors were founded and used to work directly under Malcador. The likes of Garviel Loken was one of the marines involved in their founding, so one of the Grey Knights Primarchs would be Horus .


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/17 03:59:10


    Post by: fraser1191


    Reading bits of the Codex where I figured there'd be info on Geneseed, all that's really said is that they had stocks of Geneseed. Probably collected by malcador from the purest stock. There's also a bit about the Geneseed being their bond to the emperor but the same could be said about all marines


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/19 04:46:15


    Post by: cuda1179


    The GK were special in that they became a newer founding chapter without the usual split from a parent chapter. Creating a totally new chapter without some OG characters from a parent chapter is rare (Primaris-only chapters aside).

    When the GK were formed I know they had loyalists from the Death Guard, Thousand Sons, and Dark Angels. Perhaps a couple more chapters too. I'm thinking these guys were basically there for general training purposes to get the GK on their feet, until they had experienced veterans of their own.

    The GK original mish-mash group was gifted with a super-secret stash of "don't ask me where I got it" geneseed to start things up.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/19 05:10:04


    Post by: Heafstaag


    I hope its either Fulgrim or Vulcan.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/19 23:48:51


    Post by: Zid


    I think the imperium should get one next... then fulgrim for sure; would be awesome to get an EC codex along with a slaneesh reboot. While its ny least favorite of the 4...

    Russ would be pretty awesome to return, or The Lion.


    Which Primarch Will Make Their Full Return Next ?. @ 2019/01/20 00:28:20


    Post by: Haighus


     Chimaera wrote:
    The Lion is my guess.

    1. His location is already known like Guilliman.
    2. Things aren’t quite desperate enough for the Wolves yet.
    3. The Lion will meet with Cypher to get his sword back. He will then hear Cyphers side of the story.

    I had forgotten about Cypher. I think his release alongside Guilliman makes the Lion the most likely loyalist Primarch to be next.

    However, I think Fulgrim is most likely to be next, in all his daemonic, snakey glory.