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OH MY GOD EMPEROR..
Link: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/23/23rd-jan-coming-soon-black-library-celebration-2019gw-homepage-post-3/
On the 23rd and 24th of February, Warhammer and Games Workshop stores across the world will be hosting their annual Black Library Celebration. It’ll be a weekend of adrenaline-fuelled fiction, with stores running events that retell stories from the novels. And, of course, there are going to be loads of new books, CDs and other goodies to pick up…
The celebration is going to be online as well, and the best place to join in with it will be the brand-new Black Library Instagram, which launches today! (It still has that new account smell.) As well as a place to find out about all the latest books from Black Library, this will also be somewhere that you can discuss your favourites and join a community of like-minded fans of Warhammer fiction. And if you head there now, you’ll find some gorgeous pictures of a new Black Library-themed Citadel miniature being released for the Celebration – Commissar Severina Raine!
This fantastic model is your chance to add this devout Imperial hero to your collection. Her Black Library-themed box includes rules for using the resin miniature in your Astra Militarum army – and February’s White Dwarf will include the rules for using her as your Commander in games of Kill Team as well! The Raine miniature is based on the cover art for a new novel also coming for the Celebration, Rachel Harrison’s debut novel Honourbound.
This is the first full-length story to star Commissar Severina Raine, who’s become a fan favourite through Rachel’s awesome short stories. The novel sees Raine and her 11th Antari Rifles take their war with the Sighted to another level – and the cult’s machinations may expose secrets from Raine’s troubled past.
The Celebration is also a fantastic chance to catch up with the Horus Heresy. After nearly thirteen years and 54 books, the series is coming to an end… of sorts. Later this year sees the start of the Siege of Terra, in the form of an epic eight-book miniseries – and the Celebration sees the launch of the last book before the Siege begins:
The Buried Dagger, by James Swallow, tells the long-awaited story of the fall of the Death Guard. Bestilled in the warp, the Legion is ravaged by contagion. Nurgle wishes to bestow his gifts upon them – but will proud Mortarion accept such corruption to save the lives of his sons? It’s also a bridge between the series so far and the Siege, catching up with heroes on the Throneworld, including Knights-Errant, the Sigillite, the would-be saint Euphrati Keeler… and nine mysterious silver-armoured figures with psychic powers.
You’ll also be able to look back to where it all began, with Celebration editions of Horus Rising and False Gods. Each of these is a gorgeous artefact, with new covers and black page edges – and each has an additional short story (‘Misbegotten’ and ‘The Wolf of Ash and Fire’, if you’re curious), along with introductions by authors Dan Abnett and Graham McNeill.
The weekend will also see the launch of Angron: Slave of Nuceria, the eleventh book in the Primarchs series. United with his World Eaters, Angron must adjust to life as a master instead of a slave. But as his life on Nuceria – and the constant pain from the Butcher’s Nails – haunts him, Angron insists on reshaping the Legion in his image… This lavish limited edition will be available to order online – and each store will be getting a copy as well, so if you’re quick, you can be among the very first to read Ian St. Martin’s first Horus Heresy novel.
That’s a lot of Heresy – but there’s much more to the Celebration. Fast forward ten thousand years, and there are two incredible tales from the Dark Imperium to savour as well.
Our Martyred Lady by Gav Thorpe is an audio drama boxed set in the style of Realmslayer. Four hour-long episodes make up a story of Saint Celestine and Inquisitor Greyfax as they struggle to stop a religious civil war from erupting in the fractured Imperium. It’s perfect for extended painting sessions (maybe the Celestine and Greyfax miniatures?) and long journeys. Oh, and did we mention that the fantastic cast is headed up by none other than Catherine Tate?
The Celebration will also see the launch of this year’s Reader’s Choice novels, as voted for by you. Storm of Iron is a true Black Library classic, one of Graham McNeill’s earliest novels, and pits the Iron Warriors against the forces of the Imperium in a battle to control secrets hidden beneath a mighty fortress. With Graham McNeill working right now on exciting new stories after a few years away, this is a great chance to reacquaint yourself with some of his best-loved characters. And speaking of characters you love, City of the Damned is David Guymer’s first Gotrek & Felix novel and is a must-read for anyone who loved Realmslayer and the other recent Gotrek tales from the Age of Sigmar.
So there are plenty of stories new and old, celebrating Black Library’s past, present and future – but, of course, that’s not all. There’s some amazing merchandise on offer as well, including a set of four vinyl coasters, themed around the Heresy and The Buried Dagger. They boast the symbols of the Death Guard, Sons of Horus, World Eaters and Knights-Errant, and are perfect for keeping your table safe from nasty stains while you’re enjoying a hard-earned mug of tea (or maybe blood, if you’re a World Eater).
The last thing you’ll be able to pick up at the Celebration is a fantastic free short story anthology. Containing six tales – including stories about Severina Raine and Mortarion – you’ll get this with any order of a physical product from the Games Workshop and Black Library websites, and you’ll also be able to pick up a copy in your local store.
What’s more, the Celebration will be starting early online. To whet your appetite, there will be a week of brand-new digital short stories building up to the weekend – six of them, several with links to the new releases, including a Severina Raine tale, a look at Mortarion in the aftermath of meeting the Emperor and the tale of Angron’s last stand on Nuceria.
In the meantime, check the Store Finder to locate your local store, and find out what their plans are for the Black Library Celebration 2019 – because, with all of this in store, you’ll definitely want to join in. And remember to keep an eye on the Black Library Instagram.
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Post by: Geifer
Can't be a female Commissar - no boobs visible.
Nice model, though. Someone put a lot more care into the pose than the plastic Commissar got.
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Post by: Tannhauser42
That's a surprisingly good model. Are we sure it's really GW? The bolter, hat, and sword seem too small compared to a normal GW sculpt.
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Post by: Nova_Impero
Tannhauser42 wrote:That's a surprisingly good model. Are we sure it's really GW? The bolter, hat, and sword seem too small compared to a normal GW sculpt.
It's based on the cover artwork for the Severina Raine novel, Honorbound.
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Post by: Horst
Geifer wrote:Can't be a female Commissar - no boobs visible.
Nice model, though. Someone put a lot more care into the pose than the plastic Commissar got.
That plastic commissar is terrible... and they have the balls to sell him for $21.... jeeze.
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Post by: Malika2
No boob armour? Awesome!!!!!!!
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Do we need to preorder the book and mini, or can we just show up on Feb 24th and expect to buy them in store?
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Post by: alphaecho
Like buses.
A couple weeks ago we were admiring Victoria Lamb's non cheesecake female Commissar..
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Post by: Nightlord1987
Cant wait. The Buried Dagger will be the first BL book I purchase in years. (Do I even have time to read anymore?)
My very first and favorite HH book was Flight of the Eisenstein.
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Post by: Togusa
GW give me plastic guard to go with her and I swear by the god emperor you can have my first born child.
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Post by: warboss
That's a great looking commissar! I'm surprised it's coming from GW given the lack of the typical bobble head and ham fists characteristic of GW figs. It looks more like something Artel W would come out with.
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Post by: Vintersorg
No boob plate. Thanks the Emperor!
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Post by: Luciferian
Pretty cool looking model with realistic proportions compared to current IG models. Imagine how much better they would look if they were all updated to this kind of style.
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Post by: Ratius
Nice model, love the gold plated bolt pistol.
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Post by: Jimsolo
Super excited for it.
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Post by: Togusa
Too bad, the leaked rules I saw on FB are pure trash. This model will never see the table.
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Post by: ImAGeek
Togusa wrote:Too bad, the leaked rules I saw on FB are pure trash. This model will never see the table.
They were for Kill Team.
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Post by: warboss
Togusa wrote:Too bad, the leaked rules I saw on FB are pure trash. This model will never see the table.
Can't you just use it as a generic commissar instead?
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Post by: AdmiralHalsey
I don't particularly like the model, for the first female commissar in a long time [don't they all have laspistols!] it doesn't seem terribly female. I'd of prefered her to have a hat shoved under her arm or something.
I guess if they're working from the artwork though..
Shrug.
On the other hand - Female Commissar + New Guard Model = Yay.
Female Guardsmen next, please.
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Post by: Togusa
warboss wrote: Togusa wrote:Too bad, the leaked rules I saw on FB are pure trash. This model will never see the table.
Can't you just use it as a generic commissar instead?
Generic commissars are useless. They aren't worth ever taking over other options in the codex. The nerf to their Lead from the Front ability made them garbage can material.
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Post by: Iron Angel
I have to say that I find her rather bland.
But then I prefer Slaanesh stuff. Nice they made the model though.
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Post by: Not-not-kenny
Togusa wrote:Too bad, the leaked rules I saw on FB are pure trash. This model will never see the table.
Oh I can guarantee you that she will see at least one, she is all I've ever wanted in a female commisar!
Also, I am glad the miniature version isn't standing on the same updraft as the one on the book cover.
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Post by: Flinty
The proportions are a lot like the new BSF traitor guard. I really like it. Anyone tried the short stories that appear to have been out. Are the novels likey to equal Gaunt stuff in quality and entertainment value? Or even the Cain stuff? Gotta love a good bit of commisaring
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Post by: Togusa
Not-not-kenny wrote: Togusa wrote:Too bad, the leaked rules I saw on FB are pure trash. This model will never see the table.
Oh I can guarantee you that she will see at least one, she is all I've ever wanted in a female commisar!
Also, I am glad the miniature version isn't standing on the same updraft as the one on the book cover.
I'm sure some people will run her.
The problem is with the basic commissar rules, not her specifically.
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Post by: Bobthehero
Flinty wrote:The proportions are a lot like the new BSF traitor guard. I really like it. Anyone tried the short stories that appear to have been out. Are the novels likey to equal Gaunt stuff in quality and entertainment value? Or even the Cain stuff? Gotta love a good bit of commisaring
I enjoyed the shorts, good commissaring, good guardsmanning and good stormtroopering
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Post by: Mr Morden
Looks a great new model
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Post by: BrookM
Quite, the short stories have made me want more and lo, we are getting more!
It's got a good cast of characters, some good world building where the main character learns more about the regiment she's with and it looks like this is all set during a campaign against a single, massive chaos cult of sorts.
Execution: https://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/quick-reads/execution-eshort.html
A Company of Shadows: https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/warhammer-40000/eshort-a-company-of-shadows.html
Fire and Thunder: https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/warhammer-40000/advent-2018-3-fire-and-thunder-eshort.html
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Post by: TalonZahn
No Boob-Plate, and no high heels?
FAKE NEWS.
In all seriousness, this is a top notch mini IMHO. Need more female models like this.... about an army's worth.
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Post by: insaniak
warboss wrote: Togusa wrote:Too bad, the leaked rules I saw on FB are pure trash. This model will never see the table.
Can't you just use it as a generic commissar instead?
Given how much better the model is than the generic commissar, yes, I suspect that she will see a lot of tables as a generic commissar.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
If for any reason someone can’t make it or order online, see my sig for the Loot Group. Sure we’d be happy to assist as best we can
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
The plastic Commissar is a junk mini with terrible proportions.
This is a significant improvement.
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Post by: Peregrine
OMG this is amazing. Now if only GW would do this level of quality regularly, not just as a one-time deal.
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Post by: phillv85
Definite buy for me
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Post by: Not-not-kenny
Does it say anywhere if she'll be widely available or is it only in GW stores?
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Post by: ImAGeek
I’ve heard it’ll be available to order from retailers, but I don’t know how official that is.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
And online by my understanding,
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Post by: drbored
Warhammer 40k Facebook has confirmed that this is not a limited time miniature, everyone will be able to get it, and it will be available for online ordering.
Fanastic model. Too bad that image of her rules is too blurry to make out the stats properly. Looks like Leadership level 1, which is... ok I guess. 20 points means you can have a LOT of other models in a 200 point commander game alongside her.
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Post by: Just Tony
Must have.
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Post by: warboss
Thanks for the update! Any chance that the price will be less ridiculous than most one small sprue plastic character kits of the past 5 years?
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Post by: ProtoClone
Nice mini. It doesn't feel too crazy and has a good, simple, style. Looking forward to seeing more.
Got to say there is this feeling I am getting from GW lately that I haven't felt since I joined the hobby, excited.
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Post by: Ouze
Will 100% buy this mini, potentially assemble it, and never paint it.
Assuming it doesn't wind up as some hard-to-buy exclusive only available for a few hours at the closest GWS to me, a brisk 3 hour drive.
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Post by: BrookM
Chances are the model will be the same price as Eisenhorn: €25,- and available after the event itself, just like Gregor.
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Post by: Azreal13
Catherine Tate?
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Post by: Horst
Hmm... could probably field her as a Colonel-Commissar, and just use the Company Commander stat-line and say she's a "Counts-As" model. As long as you don't have any actual Commissars in your army it should be acceptable as there's no way to confuse it for anything but an HQ.
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Post by: insaniak
warboss wrote:Thanks for the update! Any chance that the price will be less ridiculous than most one small sprue plastic character kits of the past 5 years?
Seems unlikely, particularly given that it's a commemorative piece.
The best you can probably hope for price-wise is that you won't have to buy $400 worth of other miniatures during a solar eclipse on the third sunday of a month for the chance to buy it...
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Post by: Briancj
Pretty sure I still have 2-3 of the previous female commissar lying around...
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Post by: warboss
insaniak wrote: warboss wrote:Thanks for the update! Any chance that the price will be less ridiculous than most one small sprue plastic character kits of the past 5 years?
Seems unlikely, particularly given that it's a commemorative piece.
Probably... But given that Gw came out with a normally proportioned female mini in practical armor, there is obviously a cold front moving into hell so I'm going for broke (figuratively not literally as I wouldn't buy it otherwise) with my fingers crossed for a reasonable price too.
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Post by: Strg Alt
No boob armour? Epic fail! Take a look at Greyfax and learn how it is done.
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Post by: aracersss
... perhaps she flat
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Post by: Excommunicatus
I have no use at all for this mini, but still shut up and take my money.
FWIW, it's a Bolt Pistol not a Bolter.
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Post by: Flinty
Also possibly the first female sci fi model I've ever seen without some kind of ridiculous high heels.
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Post by: Jammer87
It said resin for the material. I wonder how the actual models will turn out. I’ve heard some terrible reviews lately of FW and I hate failcast.
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Post by: ingtaer
No it really isn't.
Nice model but am not going to sell my car to be able to afford it.
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Post by: MegaDave
It's funny, I showed the model to my mother, who goes by "Raine," and she thought it was a male. Granted she hasn't gotten a good look at the other models GW puts out but I thought that it was funny. The lack of hair was specifically what she didn't get. Didn't have the heart to tell her it was probably in a bun under her hat or perhaps even shaved to the skin. Silly moms...
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Post by: aracersss
... from an angle, she looks like a young adult
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Post by: Yodhrin
Standard follow up question - how tied to the "new setting" are they? IE, can I pretty much read them as a temporally-agnostic 40K story, or is there a lot of 41K/Primaris/Rift/Rowboat stuff in there?
As a firm supporter of boob plate in general, and where it already exists as part of a faction's aesthetic in particular, I very much like the model and will buy one if it's not too ludicrously priced. It's almost as if only one segment of opinion from that tiresome "debate" are actually interested in imposing said opinion on everybody, and most of us are happy with all options being available...
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Post by: Bob Lorgar
I don't know, if no one actually said it was a female character, I'm not sure how you'd tell. Not saying that's good or bad, just that there's nothing immediately obvious to me one way or another.
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Post by: Ginjitzu
I know, right? I can't imagine Tate with anything other than thick Cockney which seems like it would just be distracting.
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Post by: insaniak
Bob Lorgar wrote:I don't know, if no one actually said it was a female character, I'm not sure how you'd tell. Not saying that's good or bad, just that there's nothing immediately obvious to me one way or another.
In isolation, if you've never seen a GW miniature (or any other range that deals in 'heroic' scale), sure, it could pass for a slightly androgynous male, or a teenager Commissar cosplay.
Put it up against male miniatures from the same range, and the slighter build and more feminine facial features will be much more apparent, though.
Ultimately, though, does it matter if it's not 'obviously' female?
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Post by: Arachnofiend
Looks feminine to me; GW really knocked it out of the park on the facial structure, which is usually a weakness in my view. Whoever made this model needs a promotion.
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Post by: Dr Coconut
I want one.
Does the BL page for the book contain a typo or spoiler though?
The first novel to star Inquisitor Severina Raine
Just hope you don't have to buy the book too to get the figure
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Post by: Excommunicatus
It says that her box is "Black Library themed" and that her first full-length novel is "also" available.
It's far from clear, but to me it seems like no, you don't also have to buy the book.
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Post by: mortar_crew
Super model.
Now, female troopers, from the same sculptor please...
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Post by: FrothingMuppet
I’m sure if you green stuffed a beard on there it would pass for a bloke commissar. Instant Colonel-Commissar Gaunt as one poster already mentioned. He was always described as slight of build.
The only thing to my eyes that say this is female is the proportions of the sculpt, and that is merely on the basis of comparison to the historically designed, stockier, ham fingered older Cadian etc. If they redesign the Cadian range I expect the proportions to be improved, as they have been on al recent releases, in which case this model will not jar as significantly as its does against existing legacy designs.
Absent them saying this was X, a female Commissar, there’s nothing screaming female. If this is the design style that people clamouring for female sculpts are after then to my mid they have that already in every sculpt released to date and merely need to pop a different head on. Female Cadian, swap the head, on the existing androgynous sculpt. Female Space Marine, again, swap the head or go full helmet - who knows what’s underneath.
Skitarii are equally as delicate sculpt wise. On the basis of this mini design cue presenting as female (ie slight build compared to old scale proportions), every Skitarii is female.
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Post by: insaniak
FrothingMuppet wrote:I’m sure if you green stuffed a beard on there it would pass for a bloke commissar. Instant Colonel-Commissar Gaunt as one poster already mentioned. He was always described as slight of build.
He was also described as seven or eight feet tall...
Absent them saying this was X, a female Commissar, there’s nothing screaming female. If this is the design style that people clamouring for female sculpts are after then to my mid they have that already in every sculpt released to date and merely need to pop a different head on. Female Cadian, swap the head, on the existing androgynous sculpt. Female Space Marine, again, swap the head or go full helmet - who knows what’s underneath.
Putting a female head on a Cadian body doesn't get you anything even remotely similar to the proportions of this miniature.
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Post by: FrothingMuppet
Exactly - the old Cadian are in the old proportions - the point I poorly tried to make is that the Cadian body is androgynous. This body is androgynous. I imagine if the Cadians are re-done in this current proportion style then they will also look equally androgynous in which case all this call for female sculpts that aren’t boob plate, high heels and booty boils down to put a different head on an existing model. A Cadian with a flak helmet wont be distinguishable as either sex.
Like, I didn’t twig there was a female in the void troopers in the Rogue Trader game as the models are just androgynous body types. Same with the cultists in Blackstone Fortress, at first glance before someone said there was a female, none read as explicitly female.
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Post by: Jadenim
To be honest, if you wanted to play this as a 16-year old male commissar thrown onto the front lines, that would still be suitably grim dark.
Lovely model, will definitely be getting. I have the previous Eisenhorn, which is also a great sculpt (and casting quality was fine, slight distortion on the staff, but easily fixed with hot water and not unexpected for long, thin, resin.)
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Post by: BertBert
I hope there is visible pinned up hair somewhere on the back of her head, similar to what the book cover shows. Otherwise this would probably look too androgenous for my taste (and not because of the missing heels/boob plate - Greyfax is an abomination).
Face and overall proportions look fantastic. Resin is a big bummer though.
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Post by: Excommunicatus
Raine's physique is very, very, very different from just slapping a female head onto a Cadian body
Very different.
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Post by: Sunny Side Up
Dunno. I like the miniature. If anything, for a purely "realistic" take (which I'd not want in 40K), she's arguably still too female (partly due to near-skintight uniform).
I'd doubt anyone would notice much difference between male and female soldiers modeled realistically with a helmet on and scaled down to a miniature scale.
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Post by: Haighus
Sunny Side Up wrote:Dunno. I like the miniature. If anything, for a purely "realistic" take (which I'd not want in 40K), she's arguably still too female (partly due to near-skintight uniform).
I'd doubt anyone would notice much difference between male and female soldiers modeled realistically with a helmet on and scaled down to a miniature scale.
That's just a side effect of Commissars being stylish It is like the difference between pre/early war Wehrmacht soldiers and later war soldiers in WWII. Initially stylish close fitting gear, later more practical, loose fitting gear.
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Post by: Casualty
Female Cadian, swap the head, on the existing androgynous sculpt.
Well... Yeah, lol. That's pretty much how people make female IG right now, and 3rd party companies do a healthy trade in selling female noggins for that purpose for that reason. IRL that would be pretty much the only obvious difference in a uniform like that, so you can get away with it. Differentiating a little more like the traitor guard figures' body sculpts is even better, but head options would be perfectly passable.
(although it's worth mentioning that often if you do pop a female head on a Cadian, people do convince themselves you've trimmed the hands and hips, there's a kind of optical illusion to it)
For figures like a Commissar though, it is a little different, it's comparable to a dress/No 1 uniform, and there is a distinct difference to the eye.
It's a very well done sculpt all around.
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Post by: Galas
FrothingMuppet wrote:Exactly - the old Cadian are in the old proportions - the point I poorly tried to make is that the Cadian body is androgynous. This body is androgynous. I imagine if the Cadians are re-done in this current proportion style then they will also look equally androgynous in which case all this call for female sculpts that aren’t boob plate, high heels and booty boils down to put a different head on an existing model. A Cadian with a flak helmet wont be distinguishable as either sex.
Like, I didn’t twig there was a female in the void troopers in the Rogue Trader game as the models are just androgynous body types. Same with the cultists in Blackstone Fortress, at first glance before someone said there was a female, none read as explicitly female.
Yes, human miniatures with more human proportions in battle gear could pass for male or female if they aren't ultra muscular. As you said, the blackstone fortress cultists could pass for females if you change the heads.
I don't need my male miniatures with marked crotchs to know they are male, I don't need all my female miniatures to have boob plate and high heels (And I like my SoB with boobplate before anyone says anything) to know they are female. At the end of the day it depends. The aesthetic of the faction comes before anything. I wouldn't expect Witch Elves to be covered in armour without marking their... feminine virtues. Just like I don't expect Orks to wear perfectly nice and clean tau-like uniforms.
Also I agree that this is probably the best face I have seen GW sculpt recently, but maybe part of it is the paint.
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Post by: Briancj
I believe it is more important to note that this is a major move to create a strong human female lead in the GW mythos/cosmology, who is not a Sister/nun archetype, etc.
Bravo, GW.
--B.
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Post by: Lord Damocles
Because we haven't had female techpriests, generals, inquisitors, navy captains, etc. before. Nu uh.
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Post by: Nurglitch
No, but it's nice to have one that isn't all sexed-up. I'd love to see a Lotara Sarin miniature by the sculptor, but the tricky part would be the evidence that Angron felt a boob.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
"Sexed-up"? Like her? Or them? Or these? Really? That's 'sexed-up'?
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Post by: Galas
To be honest Greyfax is a little sexed-up, but thats fine because Inquisitors are the most baroque part of the Imperium and thats what makes them amazing.
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Post by: BertBert
This wouldn't have been too bad
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Post by: Galas
Those are more of Raging Heroes proportions.
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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon
What on earth happened to her waist in that edit??
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Post by: BertBert
I was focusing more on the face, but yeah, the hips don't have to be that narrow, I agree.
I like the smaller proportions on her hands and legs though.
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Post by: ImAGeek
Funny how we only ever have this level of analysis about proportions on models when they’re female (getting flashbacks to the ‘Celestine is fat’ debate).
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Post by: Galas
ImAGeek wrote:Funny how we only ever have this level of analysis about proportions on models when they’re female (getting flashbacks to the ‘Celestine is fat’ debate).
Now we need for some 4chan poster to drawn how she would look under her armour to shown how badly it is done!
And yeah, the max you see with male models is "Those FW's Blood Angel Terminators have horrible proportions and strange legs" but people don't start cropping and editing, or talking about the merits of having terminators with funny legs, etc...
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Post by: Briancj
Lord Damocles wrote:Because we haven't had female techpriests, generals, inquisitors, navy captains, etc. before. Nu uh.
Not a miniature with their own book series, where they are the lead/primary character. Who isn't super-powered.
Now, do I expect this series to pass the Bechdel test? Nope. But, baby steps.
I see, however, there's another example! I'd like to see more of the Minka Lesk novel series as well, which is ALSO new.
This is, quite clearly, part of an evolving GW strategy, along with their new YA fiction.
It's a good thing, especially if they release female Guard miniatures, which supporting the Minka series might push them to do.
--B.
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Post by: Albertorius
AdmiralHalsey wrote:I don't particularly like the model, for the first female commissar in a long time [don't they all have laspistols!] it doesn't seem terribly female. I'd of prefered her to have a hat shoved under her arm or something.
I guess if they're working from the artwork though..
Shrug.
On the other hand - Female Commissar + New Guard Model = Yay.
Female Guardsmen next, please.
Well, I saw the pic first without knowing what it was or having seen the novel's cover, and my first thought was "Oh, a female commissar, neat! Still the hat's a tad too big, though", so it certainly was female enough for me. YMMV. Automatically Appended Next Post:
I would have called it "worse that what we got" personally, but to each their own.
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Post by: warboss
@Albertorius: You're not the only one as I agree. Zaftig and cheesecake (and beefcake!) models have their place in the hobby (not really interested in them myself but I acknowledge the market) but I'm glad that the commissar was done as originally shown.
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Post by: Symbio Joe
A female model without boopplate? What grim dystopian future is this?! Good thing we already know the Sisters of Battle still stick to the standard pectus maximus mars pattern for their servoarmor. How else would you be able to tell the diffrence of genders which is very crutial to a battle in the 41st millenium!
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Post by: MonkeyBallistic
Just as an experiment, I just showed the picture of the mini to my partner, who knows next to nothing about 40k, and asked her what it was a model of.
Her answer was, “it’s a woman in a big hat”, she then claimed it reminded her a bit of Angelina Jolie. I thought that was a bit of a stretch, but she has a vivid imagination.
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Post by: Casualty
Briancj wrote:
It's a good thing, especially if they release female Guard miniatures, which supporting the Minka series might push them to do.
--B.
Yeah, I think GW are doing a great job generally at the moment on this front. The depictions of female troops in the Codex is really well done too, they're drawn with plenty of personality, but in-character for the faction and within the realms of plausibility of a relatively down-to-earth force. Anecdotally, and I'm sure it's been remarked upon elsewhere, I also see more photos and display models of black and brown troops among both loyal and traitor guard.
Stuff like that is great to open up and energise the hobby generally, but it also injects so much more life into a squad. IMHO, it's that little bit easier to see and play with them as individual characters rather than just a fancy dollar store bag of green Army Men.
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Post by: parakuribo
I don't know why you guys are excited about a strong female model. All I see is a commissar with a female head.
If you don't believe me, go to the front page, then look at this link:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/searchResults?_dyncharset=UTF-8&_dynSessConf=1088901908208780983&qty=&sorting=&view=&Ntt=commissar
At least Moerck and Gaunt had action in their poses, but sadly they are no longer available. Now, by the time she drops, the only ones we'll be able to get are in almost the exact same pose.
Personally, I liked Eisenhorn's sculpt as well as his rules, but right now, every special model they have released is either a generic, has a bad/similar sculpt or both. I can only hope I'm wrong by Black Library Weekend.
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Post by: Casbyness
TalonZahn wrote:No Boob-Plate, and no high heels?
FAKE NEWS.
In all seriousness, this is a top notch mini IMHO. Need more female models like this.... about an army's worth.
Be careful what you wish for. If the new SoB models tried sneaking in non-boobplate armour I think there would be a fan civil war
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Post by: Casualty
Dunno if it's just hype, but Element's pre order mail make it sound like they're expecting high demand and short supply.
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Post by: Undead_Love-Machine
I had trouble finding one, I was fortunate to find one online retailer who still had a couple in stock.
Expecting to see these turn up on eBay with high markups
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Post by: BrookM
Chances are that like with the Eisenhorn mini from last year, it'll sell out in hours, but it will restock in due time and not be a limited release.
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
My FLGS was allocated 3 per location. Unless GW doesn't ship them (grr kill zone mechanicus) I'm looking forwards to building her and even trying to paint her.
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Post by: BrookM
Managed to get the day off myself so I can order it the moment it comes on-line along with the novel.
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Post by: BrookM
Model article: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/17/introducing-commissar-severina-raine/
Severina Raine will be available to order, as well as to pick up in your local Warhammer store, from next Saturday, alongside Honourbound and the rest of the Black Library Celebration releases. Join us throughout the week for previews of these, along with a look at great ways to get started with Black Library and a brand-new short story every day.
Rules: https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/40K_AM_Severina_Raine_Datasheet_ENG.pdf
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Post by: JohnnyHell
Auto-pass morale? Ahhhh, but only if she's up front next to the enemy... ahhhhh. Nope.
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Post by: Just Tony
So I would have to hit a GW store to get this if I don't order?
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Post by: BrookM
If you're early enough, maybe?
I wouldn't be surprised if the stores only get four or five on a first come, first serve basis and a jerk of the head towards the instore ordering terminal for those folks who miss out.
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Post by: Just Tony
What I mean is specifically a GW store, and not an independent retailer who sells GW stuff.
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Post by: BrookM
Probably GW exclusive, with everybody else getting it next week.
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Post by: Flinty
Ive just pre ordered one from an independent retailer, so they must be going out at some point.
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Post by: Casualty
Flinty wrote:Ive just pre ordered one from an independent retailer, so they must be going out at some point.
I preordered through Element Games and they stress at a few different stages that they will not have stock for release:
PLEASE NOTE: Due to extremely limited availability worldwide, we will not be able to fulfil pre-orders for this product in time for its release date on the 23rd of February.
Although we may be able to fulfil some orders soon after the release date, other orders may take up to six weeks to fulfil, depending on availability from Games Workshop. Please also note that if ordered alongside other items, this product will affect the dispatch date of your order.
Commissar Severina Raine goes up for pre-order this week. The models is being made specially to order and thus carries a 4-6 week fulfilment period. After this first run of pre-orders she will then be unfortunately unavailable from us.
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Post by: Flinty
Hmm... I didnt see any of that caveating
Oh well, inonlynordered on the off chance of getting one. Not the end of the world if it doesn't work.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
It's like Eisenhorn, right? It will be out everywhere eventually.
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Post by: MonkeyBallistic
H.B.M.C. wrote:It's like Eisenhorn, right? It will be out everywhere eventually.
Eisenhorn is still available but it’s now a GW webstore exclusive.
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Post by: NurglesR0T
JohnnyHell wrote:Auto-pass morale? Ahhhh, but only if she's up front next to the enemy... ahhhhh. Nope.
Yeah not sure what they were thinking about with that rule. A T3 W3 model with 4+ sv and no invun, will get squished every time before the rule even comes into effect. At least she's a cheap commissar for those that like the character from the novels.
I'd imagine most people that want to use this model will end up using it as a normal commissar (or even company commander etc)
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Post by: BrookM
For just three or so points more you can field her as a Lord Commissar, with superior stats, an invulnerable save, better pistol (plasma or relic bolt pistol) and a regular power sword with -3AP instead of her -1.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
GW continues to write character rules for a different army. The Guard shoots. They don't run into close combat. They need to start making characters whose combat abilities aren't diametrically opposed to the army they go in.
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Post by: Arbitrator
Edit: Nevermind.
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Post by: Peregrine
H.B.M.C. wrote:GW continues to write character rules for a different army. The Guard shoots. They don't run into close combat.
They need to start making characters whose combat abilities aren't diametrically opposed to the army they go in.
I'd forgive it if she was actually any good at melee, instead of having a weak stat line and a joke of a weapon. IG shoot a lot, but there are enough "charge in and stab" units/regiments that it's not hopeless on general principle. But a melee character that offers nothing to synergize with or buff the rest of the army and sucks at doing the one thing she's supposed to do? that nonsense, she's using the rules for a regular commissar.
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Post by: Dr Coconut
Temporarily out of stock!
It's a pre-order. Make more in the week leading up to release.
Unfortunately I'm on 12 hr night shift, so was sleeping when this weeks pre-orders were put up. They weren't there at 7am, and I failed to stay awake until 10am, which is when they normally go up. First thing I've done after waking is look.... ALL GONE
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Post by: BrookM
Stock is limited everywhere. The store I visited today only got four models.
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Post by: Casualty
Local indie game store said their order wasn't filled, they got none in. My local gworkshop told me they got about 10 in, had sold 4 by the time I was in this morning.
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Post by: BrookM
Oh wow, not just the mini but the novel itself is also sold out as of right now, that does not happen often with new releases!
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Post by: Dr Coconut
BrookM wrote:Oh wow, not just the mini but the novel itself is also sold out as of right now, that does not happen often with new releases!
I find it hard to believe the book stocks are exhausted. At present it is only available as a pre order package WITH the miniature, so imagine they can't forefill that side of It.
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Post by: necrontyrOG
So the mini/book bundle was sold out, but I was able to order them individually. Must have lucked out there.
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Post by: Overread
Even pre-orders go out of stock - GW can only produce and order a finite amount of any item for stock. Plus with them releasing new stuff every single week they likely can't backlog stock for excessive periods. In the end they use past sales date to predict order volume and try to meet it.
Sometimes they get it right (actually a lot of the time they do); sometimes they get it wrong and they are left sitting on stock; others they are left making new production runs.
Sometimes something like this model and book can be a wildcard because they'll get loads of people who never bought into the franchise lines picking both up. So sales can randomly spike for no apparent reason save that its really popular.
Plus it might be that they knew they couldn't produce and store enough stock so were expecting to run out fast .
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Post by: BrookM
Dr Coconut wrote: BrookM wrote:Oh wow, not just the mini but the novel itself is also sold out as of right now, that does not happen often with new releases!
I find it hard to believe the book stocks are exhausted. At present it is only available as a pre order package WITH the miniature, so imagine they can't forefill that side of It.
The book can also be preordered on its own, but as of right now, is also out of stock.
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Post by: Dysartes
I was lucky to get the book at my local GW, but have had to back order the model - apparently they only got 6 of the model in, and they were gone within the first half hour of opening.
Did manage to grab the coaster set, though.
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Post by: Mentlegen324
I think the last event I went too was probably the 30th W40K anniversary many years ago, so wasn't too sure what to expect especially as my closest store is Warhammer World. Turned up about 20min before they opened at 10 and by the time they actually opened there were a few dozen people queuing, but it seemed most of those were actually there for the gaming tables.
I was quite surprised to see the coaster set was only £10, I assumed it would be at least £15! Even more surprised to see they had no qualms about giving out a complete set of the badges and art cards, though...I was a bit worried it would be a "1 random thing per purchase" situation!
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Post by: BrookM
I got the complete art set along with two badges: Severina Raine and Greyfax, plus the free events novella. While he didn't have many books or minis, he did have a massive bag of badges and more than enough event novellas to last him a month at the very least.
I did show up before opening time just to be on the safe side and get both book and mini, as I rang the store the day before and asked the owner if he had any left. He was quite honest and neat about it by stating that it was first come, first serve, one per customer. So no grabbing two or three for your mates.
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Post by: Casualty
LOVE the sculpt, but this is my first resin experience and I'm not impressed. A ton of flash and a wonky scabbard. Not so wonky that it's worth trying to return, but if the piece was somewhere more obvious I'd be very grumpy.
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Post by: BrookM
Placement of the vents and tabs is a bit annoying, takes some care when removing and cleaning the model, but overall no flash or holes on my part.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Casualty wrote:LOVE the sculpt, but this is my first resin experience and I'm not impressed. A ton of flash and a wonky scabbard. Not so wonky that it's worth trying to return, but if the piece was somewhere more obvious I'd be very grumpy.
If its bent then hot water (or a hair dryer) will soften it so you can straighten it and cold water will set the new position
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Post by: Dysartes
Huh - the GW I went to didn't mention badges or art cards, though there was a small mountain of novellas on the counter. Were they just at certain locations?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
They should have had them at all the GWs but I think the manager could decide how to give them out so they might not just have been piled up to take
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Post by: Casualty
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Casualty wrote:LOVE the sculpt, but this is my first resin experience and I'm not impressed. A ton of flash and a wonky scabbard. Not so wonky that it's worth trying to return, but if the piece was somewhere more obvious I'd be very grumpy.
If its bent then hot water (or a hair dryer) will soften it so you can straighten it and cold water will set the new position
The old kettle did the trick alright. Not quite right - the sword turned out to be bent too and a sabre is a tricky shape to realign - but close enough for Imperial work.
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Post by: Dr Coconut
BrookM wrote: Dr Coconut wrote: BrookM wrote:Oh wow, not just the mini but the novel itself is also sold out as of right now, that does not happen often with new releases!
I find it hard to believe the book stocks are exhausted. At present it is only available as a pre order package WITH the miniature, so imagine they can't forefill that side of It.
The book can also be preordered on its own, but as of right now, is also out of stock.
I had only looked on the main GW site, where it was listed as book+figure or just figure. I'm presuming the book was listed on its own on BL site. Since my only interest was in the figure, i didn't look there.
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Post by: TBD
Wait, Raine is a resin mini?
That will be no sale then. Too bad.
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Post by: BrookM
Dr Coconut wrote: BrookM wrote: Dr Coconut wrote: BrookM wrote:Oh wow, not just the mini but the novel itself is also sold out as of right now, that does not happen often with new releases!
I find it hard to believe the book stocks are exhausted. At present it is only available as a pre order package WITH the miniature, so imagine they can't forefill that side of It.
The book can also be preordered on its own, but as of right now, is also out of stock.
I had only looked on the main GW site, where it was listed as book+figure or just figure. I'm presuming the book was listed on its own on BL site. Since my only interest was in the figure, i didn't look there.
The book is also listed on its own on the GW site.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Honourbound-HB-2018
TBD wrote:Wait, Raine is a resin mini?
That will be no sale then. Too bad.
This shouldn't be a surprise, as it has been known since the first announcement was made.
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Post by: reds8n
https://twitter.com/joan_of_orc/status/1099320341950808064
PSA for people getting Severina Raine today at #BlackLibrary Celebration. The instructions say plastic glue. DO NOT DO THIS. Use super glue as she is resin.
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Post by: Dysartes
So their proof-readers are as good as ever, huh?
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Post by: BrookM
It's a copy paste error, but I think people are blowing this a bit too much out of proportion.
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Post by: Flinty
Out of proportion... on the internet... I am shocked by that accusation sir
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Post by: BrookM
Crossed my mind the moment I hit the "Submit" button, but no backsies right?
I just find it.. silly and such, to notify authors of this, as if they can do anything about that.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
or they planned for plastic but ran out of production time
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Post by: BrookM
I very much doubt that. Eisenhorn is also resin, as were the various (non-Astartes mind) one-offs before her.
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Post by: Big Mac
I was going to get her, then I saw that $35 price tag for 1 foot infantry model, she must be hell of a top shelf ******, I'll try to get her via 2nd hand some day.
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Post by: insaniak
The sculpting is completely different for plastic vs resin, so that seems unlikely.
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Post by: Dysartes
BrookM wrote:It's a copy paste error, but I think people are blowing this a bit too much out of proportion.
Oh, I accept it is probably just a copy/paste error - but it is still one that should've been caught before the model was released.
Hopefully no-one ended up spending time yesterday or today wondering why their poly cement has done nothing to help stick her together...
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