I guess this could do with it's own thread as it's a mixture of genres this time.
I got decent haul of stuff from the first KS. The PVC isn't great on thin details but hopefully they've learnt from that. I'm just not seeing anything to tempt be into this one so it might be one to pick up a few bits from retail later.
Following the release of TerrainCrate, we’ve been inundated with suggestions from the community about extra pieces of scenery we should make. From modern, post-apocalyptic scenery to WWII bunkers and spooky mansions, the scope of ideas was absolutely massive. Plus, we wanted to go back and fill in some of the gaps from the original dungeon offering, with pieces like beds, bathroom fittings, a kitchen, etc. The list quickly became so massive that we realised we would need an equally massive Kickstarter to really do it justice.
Unlike the first campaign, which focused solely on fantasy pieces, TerrainCrate 2 will do things a little differently. We’ve got some key themes in each of the crates that will mix together very nicely and find a home in loads of board games, RPGs and wargames. Plus, once again, it’ll all be made in hard-wearing PVC plastic.
We’re planning to have four Crates on the Kickstarter, including Gothic Estate, Modern Life, Occupied Town and Abandoned Village (all names TBC). Across these four Crates, we’re going to cover a load of different periods, settings and uses. What’s more, if you want to pick up four Crates (and who wouldn’t) there will be a great all-in deal during the Kickstarter.
I was close to backing the first one, but held off. I have not seen any from the first Kickstarter out in the wild, or even seen them painted.
How did they turn out? Does anybody here have any experience with the product?
I'm still kind of surprised they haven't done a set of modular dungeon walls in this material since apparently there are a ton of wealthy RPG players willing to drop $1000 USD on modular dungeon sets regularly (judging by other KSs)
I did the first KS. It's fine for what it is, scatter terrain. The pieces paint up good, there's some mold lines and bits the clean up, but it's nothing too bad and would probably be fine if you don't mind seeing them.
I keep telling myself I'm going to paint it all, but there's so much stuff and it's on top of the mountain of other stuff I kept telling myself I was going to paint, which is also on top of another mountain of stuff I promised myself I was going to paint.
This new stuff looks cool but there's only a few scattered pieces I would use.. maybe just some of the old timey shop pieces.
Another Mantic kickstarter, heh ? Better wait this to hit retail.
And yes, the material used for these pieces is pretty much crap - especially the small pieces that bend all the time and barely are worth painting. It's kinda cheap, I guess, so that's their main advantage.
Bendy might be a hidden blessing for one of those sets, the one with the clock, the bureau, the chair, etc.. Add a candlestick and a Beast to lead them, and you've got a warbamd.
I was really excited about the possiblities of this stuff... then it all showed up and was completely overwhelmed, both with how much work was going to need to be put into it (painting and straightening) and where in the world I would end up putting it all.
Ended up flipping the whole thing and managed to make a bit of extra cash, and still ended up with some due to more Terraincrate stuff being included with KoW Vanguard.
I'll be keeping an eye on retail this time around. At least the stuff in Vanguard is a manageable amount.
It's tabletop. If you want something detailed, worth your time to paint, and you don't mind spending money, pick up Tiny Furniture (and Galladoria Games makes a fine modular tavern!).
But for a wargame, you can't buy two trees and a fence then call it quits. Terrain Crate is economical, so you don't spend a thousand dollars -- or hours -- on terrain.
Unlike Terrain Crate 1, which was pretty much generic fantasy, TC2 will span multiple genres, including World War, modern day, post-apoc, and Gothic. But how many gamers actually play in all of these genres?
I don't think there will be as much demand per mold for TC2 vs. TC1. But Mantic may think the generic fantasy terrain market has enough terrain bits, and will use KS to see if and how much demand there is for other settings.
Certainly the same than for Terrain Crate 1. First, it will be "meh" then Ronnie will come and give "awesome bundles with crazy lots of PVC crap" to boost the hype. We know how Mantic Kickstarters happen since now, it's always the same scheme, and Mantic fanboyz are always happy to fall for it.
It will fund, then hit retail before all the backers got their stuff with lower prices, and once again there will be a "small" complain about how backers aren't favored, yadayada.
Nah, save the trouble, just wait for retail. Not even for pre-order : just when the actual stuff is out. Less chances to get disappointed with crappy material once you get all the reviews of the brave people buying "first hand", honestly.
Certainly the same than for Terrain Crate 1. First, it will be "meh" then Ronnie will come and give "awesome bundles with crazy lots of PVC crap" to boost the hype. We know how Mantic Kickstarters happen since now, it's always the same scheme, and Mantic fanboyz are always happy to fall for it.
It will fund, then hit retail before all the backers got their stuff with lower prices, and once again there will be a "small" complain about how backers aren't favored, yadayada.
Nah, save the trouble, just wait for retail. Not even for pre-order : just when the actual stuff is out. Less chances to get disappointed with crappy material once you get all the reviews of the brave people buying "first hand", honestly.
You really are quite bitter about Mantic, Sarouan.
Yes, there's been hits and misses. The Star Saga stuff was horrendous in my opinion. However, the Terrain Crate stuff was pretty damn good. The cart was misformed, but the hot water treatment fixed it. The rest was really good and through the ks, a fantastic price.
By all means, slate the bad stuff (there is quite a bit), but stop with all the falsehoods.
Certainly the same than for Terrain Crate 1. First, it will be "meh" then Ronnie will come and give "awesome bundles with crazy lots of PVC crap" to boost the hype. We know how Mantic Kickstarters happen since now, it's always the same scheme, and Mantic fanboyz are always happy to fall for it.
It will fund, then hit retail before all the backers got their stuff with lower prices, and once again there will be a "small" complain about how backers aren't favored, yadayada.
Nah, save the trouble, just wait for retail. Not even for pre-order : just when the actual stuff is out. Less chances to get disappointed with crappy material once you get all the reviews of the brave people buying "first hand", honestly.
You really are quite bitter about Mantic, Sarouan.
Yes, there's been hits and misses. The Star Saga stuff was horrendous in my opinion. However, the Terrain Crate stuff was pretty damn good. The cart was misformed, but the hot water treatment fixed it. The rest was really good and through the ks, a fantastic price.
By all means, slate the bad stuff (there is quite a bit), but stop with all the falsehoods.
My LGS had it in stock 2 months before backers and for 35 bucks less than the KS. These were the KS versions too mind, so not a less content retail version.
It was the same with Mars Attacks, Star Saga, Duneon Saga and many many more.
So, there is some truth to what he's saying. I'd say wait for retail as well, based on what I have seen. I'm also from a position of not backing a single project of theirs, except Terrain Crate for $1. So, no bitterness here, simply observations.
My LGS had it in stock 2 months before backers and for 35 bucks less than the KS. These were the KS versions too mind, so not a less content retail version.
It was the same with Mars Attacks, Star Saga, Duneon Saga and many many more.
So, there is some truth to what he's saying. I'd say wait for retail as well, based on what I have seen. I'm also from a position of not backing a single project of theirs, except Terrain Crate for $1. So, no bitterness here, simply observations.
Exactly. I too saw the stuff in retail for less than the Kickstarter while the backers weren't having their rewards. Not even talking about backers getting rid of their excess on second market.
But by all means, Gimgagoo, pledge if you want to pledge. Like I said, I have no doubt it will fund thanks to the Mantic community.
I have no problem waiting this to hit retail. I'm sure I will have it before all the backers and for a lower price than in the Kickstarter, anyway.
Sure, you may have loads of crappy PVC material in the end, but let's be honest here : you don't need all that unnecessary quantity. What Tamburlaine said is true : in the end, you get overwhelmed by the amount of work needed to make everything look good and even selling the excess is a chore that not everyone will be happy to deal with. After all, all backers are far from being second market sellers or shop owners.
Cynical ? Yes, I admit it. But let's face it : Mantic Games kickstarters share a common pattern, and I don't see why this one would be any different. What the previous ones have showed is experience enough for those willing to see. Those who don't...well, I can't force them to open their eyes, anyway.
Of course, there is also the fact that I'm in Europe and with the Brexit not looking good...more reasons for me to be willing to wait for it to hit retail, rather than being f*ed by crazy shipping prices/unexpected taxes.
Hmm... I browsed eBay, Amazon, and Walmart and the prices for the terrain sets are more than KS prices. Or, rather, both Mantic and resellers are repackaging the terrain pieces into smaller kits, which, per piece are more expensive than KS prices -- I think. You can see in this video that the retail versions of the terrain (which has vacuum inserts) has fewer pieces than the KS version, and are separate, smaller sets. OTOH, If the retailers were selling actual KS boxes (no inserts) or the total pieces over several retail sets is less than the KS bundles, then you are correct.
And maybe *you* don't need this much stuff, but I have several dungeon sets and want enough terrain for a wargaming table as well as a town. I don't need to paint every miniature and many gamers don't paint their miniatures. If KS 2 has terrain for a genre I play, I may back it. If not, I won't.
Here's an unboxing of the retail product with the vacuum insert that is not the KS box.
There was a new town square sculpts on Mantic's site that was not in the original KS, I wonder if they will be offered in this second KS (I don't see my local retail store having Mantic's first Terrain Crate stuff in stock).
Mantic did a retailer pledges level for the terrain crate KS so I'd imagine that's where they got theirs from (along with 71 other retailers)
as to why the decided to sell them at less than KS backers paid you'd have to ask them (maybe they needed some fast cashflow ?)
My LGS was selling them without the shipping cost, which was about 35 bucks CAD less per pledge.
The LGS was selling the crates for 75CAD.
So if the LGS got a retailer pledge, why were the rest of the backers in the country waiting 2 months longer to get theirs?
Anyways, I'm not here to argue semantics. I just wanted to point out that these indeed see retail far sooner than backers do, and without the cost of shipping.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Bendy might be a hidden blessing for one of those sets, the one with the clock, the bureau, the chair, etc.. Add a candlestick and a Beast to lead them, and you've got a warbamd.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Bendy might be a hidden blessing for one of those sets, the one with the clock, the bureau, the chair, etc.. Add a candlestick and a Beast to lead them, and you've got a warbamd.
I have been very, very happy with my Terrain Crate 1 stuff - it sees use at every game.
Some is good, some is okay, very little is bad.
My biggest complaint was the wagons - wobbly and bendy, and awkward to fix.
But I was able to fix all of them, using binder clips as clamps to straighten the bent sides and wobbly shafts.
Except for one that I left as a bent and wobbly mess - I lived in Kansas for a year or so, and saw at least half a dozen abandoned wagons, slowly, slowly rotting next to faded barns. (I also found a rusting hulk of a WWI French tank in one of the barns... sadly, the mystery was better than the reality. It turned out that the US bought over 700 of those tanks, then shipped them to Kansas for storage, and eventually sold them off as tractors....)
There is very little in those sets that have not seen use.
And my wife painted almost all of it in three weeks - blocking in colors, then dipping into MinWax Polyshade.
The Auld Grump - the barricades, desks, and bookshelves see the most use. Some of the treasure piles have been permanently added to the bases for Reaper Bones dragons.
I went all in, one of everything for Terraincrate 1, but haven't gotten around to painting any of it yet. I'll be more selective this time, but if I see something I can use, I'll back it for it and toss it on the pile.
This one seems to be very aimed at their Walking Dead properties and Rob even got the dolls house joke into the vid and which is exactly the direction I’ve felt this is going.
There’s bits that interest me but probably best to wait for the small retail sets to get them.
For all those times that you’ve wanted to just have a picnic during a battle - in fairness again this would be good for a walking dead scenario or you know magic carpet maybe?
DaveC wrote: This one seems to be very aimed at their Walking Dead properties and Rob even got the dolls house joke into the vid and which is exactly the direction I’ve felt this is going.
There’s bits that interest me but probably best to be wait for the small retail sets to get them.
For all those times that you’ve wanted to just have a picnic during a battle - in fairness again this would be good for a walking dead scenario or you know magic carpet maybe?
Believe it or not, people did have picnics to watch battles going on - right into the ACW.
And now, Will You Go To Flanders is stuck in my head....
*EDIT* For some reason, that ornate sofa makes me want to run a Ravenloft game....
DaveC wrote: This one seems to be very aimed at their Walking Dead properties and Rob even got the dolls house joke into the vid and which is exactly the direction I’ve felt this is going.
Not especially, if I read what they wrote about their Kickstarter :
Unlike the first campaign, which focused solely on fantasy pieces, TerrainCrate 2 will do things a little differently. We’ve got some key themes in each of the crates that will mix together very nicely and find a home in loads of board games, RPGs and wargames. Plus, once again, it’ll all be made in hard-wearing PVC plastic.
We’re planning to have four Crates on the Kickstarter, including Gothic Estate, Modern Life, Occupied Town and Abandoned Village (all names TBC). Across these four Crates, we’re going to cover a load of different periods, settings and uses. What’s more, if you want to pick up four Crates (and who wouldn’t) there will be a great all-in deal during the Kickstarter.
It's really broader, actually. Sure, you could use those in Walking Dead (who knows, maybe no one raided that house/it got spared by the Zombie Apocalypse), but I feel like they're just not meant for this game in mind.
TERRAINCRATE 2 LAUNCHES 8pm (GMT) FEBRUARY 21st
Great news Terrainspotters, the TerrainCrate 2 Kickstarter launches 8pm (GMT) on February 21st. We're expecting crate things from this campaign and there will be a special 24-hour early bird discount - so make sure you don't miss the launch.
We want this Kickstarter to fund hundreds more pieces of detailed plastic for your RPGs, fantasy wargames, post-apocalyptic skirmish games, even historical battles. Below you can take a sneak peek at the sets available from day one.
Bleakwood Hall is a spooky, gothic setting - perfect if you want a haunted mansion, a Cthulhu cultist's layer, a mysterious wood for your fantasy games or just need some fancy furniture to kit out your king's castle for D&D. Bleakwood Hall contains four sets - Gothic Manor, Servants' Quarters, Grim Woods and Bleakwood Mausoleum.
Campbell Heights is the perfect Crate for post-apocalyptic games, the Walking Dead: All Out War, modern skirmish games and there's a set that's fully compatible with Here's Negan: The Board Game. Campbell Heights contains four sets: Two Trees Mall, Crystal Peaks Campsite, Survivor's Stronghold and Abandoned Office.
Need a Crate for your historical wargames, a bustling market square for RPGs, a simple house for your adventurers to rest in? Well, look no further than the Bellevue Square Crate. This contains the following sets: Market Day, Bellevue Hospital, Cosy Cottage and Peaceful Park.
ced1106 wrote: How are they going to do the undercuts on these miniatures?
Same way as any other spin cast miniature, use a rubber mould.
PVC models are made using metal molds - PVC itself is soft when coming out of the mold - allowing minor undercuts - at the expense of warping.
That said, popping PVC models into boiling water makes it pretty easy to get rid of most of the warping.
With Terrain Crate I the only models I had real problems with were the wagons - would have been much, much easier if they had not been assembled before shipping.
Binder clips proved to be an indispensable aid for straightening parts - and can also be used as handles when dipping the models into the hot water then the ice water bath.
The PVC can be modified - adding more or less plasticizer being one of the major ways - the soft Bones PVC from Reaper and the harder PVC used in Terrain Crate being examples, as is the plastic used by WizKids in their Deep Cuts lines. *EDIT* Affecting detail as well as how flexible the model is.
"Great news Terrainspotters, the TerrainCrate 2 Kickstarter launches 8pm (GMT) on February 21st. We're expecting crate things from this campaign and there will be a special 24-hour early bird discount - so make sure you don't miss the launch."
lord_blackfang wrote: Yeah definitely a piece you're better off assuming will be unusable.
Looks more like pieces that will be easy to fix when/if they are warped.
Unusable only if you have no patience or desire to dip the thing in hot water.
Large binder clips and boiling water will do the job quite nicely on the fences, and take maybe two minutes per fence bit.
While the long skinny bits are more likely to warp, fixing them is easy. Things like the candlesticks, the market stalls, and the fences are easy.
It will be larger, multipart models like the wagons where the problems really kick in.
Have I mentioned that the wagons in Terrain Crate were a pain in the butt? And the smaller WizKids wagons are exactly the same PitA for the exact same reasons... Those took about ten minutes each to fix, and required multiple dunkings. Clip, dunk, clip, dunk, clip, dunk, sometimes moving the clips along a longer piece, a small amount at a time, with awkward warps in awkward places, making fixing it awkward....
The guard box is more worrisome than the fences, at least to me.
That said - I was generally happy with my Terrain Crate toys, and have used them a lot. We would have ordered more of some of the sets - but the one we are most interested in is unavailable, right now.
Some is likely to be used in more permanent installations, when we get enough of it. (We need more Library. A lot more Library. My wife has Mordheim terrain plans.)
But I will be spending another $3 on a pack of binder clips, secure in the knowledge that we will need them.
I must have been lucky, I didn't really have any issues with warping in the pieces I got from the first KS. But I think I got pretty much everything I need the first time, nothing so far in this new one that I really want, but I'll see how it they unlock anything I need when they start adding stretch goals.
ced1106 wrote: How are they going to do the undercuts on these miniatures?
This is PVC rather than HIPS so there is a certain tolerance of undercuts. The worst undercuts will on previous experience be handled by making the pieces multipart and having them pre-assembled before shipping.
Quality concerns aside, what are people's general concerns with Mantic? ive seen a few mention product appearing in stores before backers are getting things. Does mantic have a poor track record?
ironicsilence wrote: Quality concerns aside, what are people's general concerns with Mantic? ive seen a few mention product appearing in stores before backers are getting things. Does mantic have a poor track record?
Mantic don’t guarantee backers will get their stuff before retail they even cover it in the FAQ they do say they hope the savings you get from KS will offset any delay. There was some complaints that the retail special offers for Vanguard were cheaper than KS prices but people weren’t taking everything into account they just saw a cheaper rulebook but didn’t factor in the dice and tokens and bits that also came with the KS. You will sometimes get stuff cheaper retail but that’s largely if you just buy a few bits through KS the bigger bundles and pledges do give a considerable saving.
They sometimes deliver late - they originally prided themselves on hitting delivery dates but they cut corners to do so and eventually realized people would rather late than sub par.
You know what you’re getting with terrain crate so there’s unlikely to be any surprises or last minute material or design changes it will be PVC so they won’t switch parts that should be HIPS or resin to PVC last minute.
Will I receive the Kickstarter products before the game is available at retail?
We always endeavor to deliver the Kickstarter pledges before the game is available at retail, however in exceptional circumstances the pledges will deliver slightly after the retail launch. However, we try to avoid this as much as possible!
ironicsilence wrote: Quality concerns aside, what are people's general concerns with Mantic? ive seen a few mention product appearing in stores before backers are getting things. Does mantic have a poor track record?
There are always some hiccups and often it feels like Mantic just says "screw it, good enough, send it to print" when 90% done and so most things are frustratingly close to being awesome but fall short.
But you can be sure you'll get your 5 lbs of miniatures for $100. They have something like a dozen successful campaigns under their belt.
ironicsilence wrote: Quality concerns aside, what are people's general concerns with Mantic? ive seen a few mention product appearing in stores before backers are getting things. Does mantic have a poor track record?
They always try and sell you on the 'savings' over retail.
If your LGS pledges for retailer levels on projects, then don't bother backing.
My LGS has the KS versions of the previous Terrain Crate 2 months before backers in Canada got them.
Canadians also ended up having to pay import taxes and fees for the post office to release the packages.
Those were reimbursed a month or so later, but one had.to pay first, or you wouldn't get your stuff.
The LGS was able to sell the KS crates for $25 less than the KS price and without the shipping cost.
Because my LGS backs at the retailer level, I don't bother backing any Mantic projects. The LGS gets it faster and sells it for much cheaper. The total savings on one crate was over $35 at retail vs. KS price.
A set I’d definitely be interested in depending on the full contents. It would be great to get cheap giant mushrooms (tree sized) if that’s even been considered? Need to do a mushroom forest for my Gloomspite Gitz and the resin ones out there are expensive.
ironicsilence wrote: Quality concerns aside, what are people's general concerns with Mantic? ive seen a few mention product appearing in stores before backers are getting things. Does mantic have a poor track record?
They always try and sell you on the 'savings' over retail.
If your LGS pledges for retailer levels on projects, then don't bother backing.
My LGS has the KS versions of the previous Terrain Crate 2 months before backers in Canada got them.
Canadians also ended up having to pay import taxes and fees for the post office to release the packages.
Those were reimbursed a month or so later, but one had.to pay first, or you wouldn't get your stuff.
The LGS was able to sell the KS crates for $25 less than the KS price and without the shipping cost.
Because my LGS backs at the retailer level, I don't bother backing any Mantic projects. The LGS gets it faster and sells it for much cheaper. The total savings on one crate was over $35 at retail vs. KS price.
Make of that what you will.
Thanks for this, my FLGS will be backing this one so that is definitely something of interest. Appreciate the insight!
Plastic! – made from PVC plastic, TerrainCrate pieces are tough enough for the rigours of an intense gaming session. TerrainCrate 2 will use a higher grade of plastic compared to the original
Mmmm nothing really grabbing me either but put in an EB just in case.
Just checking some figures the £18 sets retail for £25 and can be got for £20 from discounters. The retail crates are £60(£48 discounted) but don't contain as much as the KS crates 70 odd pieces versus 90 odd plus any stretch goals added.
I don't play anything that would have use for these items, but I think it's phenominal that Mantic is doing it. I hope it creates more interest in games which would use this stuff. There's so much that could be done with it.
Good, I'm pleased they are using a sturdier PVC for this one. Hope it will make the small pieces less bendy than the first. They listened, so I'll give good credit to Mantic where it's due !
It will be nice material for lots of different settings. Still not my target, since I'm more focused on fantasy settings, but I'm glad other people will find what they're looking for with this one.
I don't like the set groupings, mostly because I don't want to spend a fortune and each set of 4 contains 1 set I love and 1 set I don't care about. Hopefully the stretch goals will cover enough bits to mean I can get all the stuff I want.
Weird there isn't a super-forest set with just trees, you'd think people wood happily buy 4 sets of them.
We're in for three crates - pledged while Kids of War was going on - using some of the terrain from Terrain Crate 1. The timing seemed auspicious. (It was a bloodbath! Good won in both scenarios - though in the Basilean vs Goblins Light the Beacon... the Basileans won the scenario, but took a lot more damage than the Goblins who 'lost'.)
*EDIT* That hospital set... has me thinking about a scenario in an insane asylum....
Gallahad wrote: I was close to backing the first one, but held off. I have not seen any from the first Kickstarter out in the wild, or even seen them painted.
How did they turn out? Does anybody here have any experience with the product?
I've got a few posts with painted bits. What I found was a lot of the PVC comes warped to hell, so I had to separate stuff into three piles - stuff I could and would knock out quickly; stuff I'd need to heat-treat before I could knock it out; and stuff that is basically too much work right now to even consider trying to repair/reset (aka I may or may not ever get around to it).
Sarouan wrote: Good, I'm pleased they are using a sturdier PVC for this one. Hope it will make the small pieces less bendy than the first. They listened, so I'll give good credit to Mantic where it's due !
Where does it say this? Looking at that hospital set, It could be nice or just a pile of unusable garbage. Unlike others, I don't have the time or inclination to spend hours trying to reset gakky warped cheapo models. I've got too much else that deserves my time.
£65 per crate or £18 per subset.
EBs for the first 24 hours £60 per crate
Gotta say - as primarily a wargamer (at least in what I'll buy terrain for) I'm finding these "dollhouse" style sets more than a little underwhelming with the predominance of chairs and beds and watering cans and plant pots. That stuff seems more diorama territory, and if you were dong a dio, you'd probably get higher quality resin bits for your details, surely? When that's combined with a price hike for not backing in the first 24, their "stretch goal added value" would have to be ker-azy for me to go in. I guess they'd prefer people in my situation to back now and pull pledge at the end?
Well that will definitely keep me in for 2 sets at the very least.
if you only want to buy a set (rather than a full Crate) just choose 'pledge with no reward' and add the required amount. You'll be able to choose the set(s) you want in the pledge manager after the campaign has finished.
Pick ‘n’ Mix is a little like a standard pledge, BUT you get to choose the sets that are included in it. This means you can select 2 x Gothic Manor, 1 x Gloomy Wood and 1 x Bleakwood Mausoleum, for example. Or you can go all modern with 2 x Two Trees Mall and 2 x Crystal Peaks Campsite. You could go completely bonkers and get 16 market stalls by grabbing 4 x Bustling Market. The choice is YOURS!
Basically, you can choose any combination of FOUR £18 Sets (as shown below and in the Optional Extras section) to create your own pledge. Even better, you will save £7 compared to the normal cost of buying four separate sets because this new pledge costs £65 - the same as a standard Crate.
How does Pick ‘n’ Mix work?
Simple! Begin by choosing the Pick ‘n’ Mix pledge level. Now start thinking about what sets you want to receive because you don’t have to do anything else just yet. When the campaign finishes, we’ll email all backers something called the pledge manager. In the pledge manager you’ll select the four sets you want to receive. Job done. Hooray!
“But wait, I want to get multiple Pick ‘n’ Mix pledges!” Don’t worry imaginary backer. If you want multiple Pick ‘n’ Mix pledges, you’ll be able to add them in the pledge manager as an additional pledge and you can choose four entirely different sets to receive. What’s more, if you’ve opted for the standard or early bird pledges, you’ll also be able to add a Pick ‘n’ Mix selection in the pledge manager as an additional pledge type too.
Please note that the Pick ‘n’ Mix pledge does NOT include a Crate to keep your sets in – however, each set will come clearly marked in its own smaller box
If you have an EB pledge and only want 1 crate and that's a P&M crate you have to swap pledge level to P&M either now or in the PM. If you have an EB and want 1 or more of the fixed set crates and a P&M crate stick with EB and add a P&M crate in the PM (you can add +£65 to your pledge now) Basically P&M costs £5 more than EB but you get free choice.
For clarity the pick & mix crate cannot be taken as part of the £200 All in pledge it’s only the 4 crates with fixed contents that are eligible for this pledge as your choice of any 4 crates. You can of course add a pick & mix on top of an all in pledge.
porkuslime wrote: well crud.. I only want a subset of trees.. they dont seem to have anything smaller than a "crate"..
Anyone in the US want to hook a chap up with a subset pledge?
You can get individual sets by pledging £18 for each and selecting no reward postage might be an issue if you only want 1 so a piggy back pledge might be better alright.
Down a bit for the day (-$249) but still growing overall it’s slowed right down which is normal mid campaign.
The military set is coming today so that might get things moving again.
Hopefully, since it's pretty good terrain for lots of uses. I'm worried the whole thing will largely stall out though - with all the pre-KS hype a lot of people will have jumped in for the early bird. I'm hoping it doesn't go backwards near the end as there seem to be a lot of people who grabbed an EB and are waiting to see what happens. I'm in that boat: the pick and mix suits me quite well, but there hasn't been much added to the sets I want (abandoned office and campsite), so if the value doesn't fly up by the end I'll drop it and wait for retail. Odds are I won't be paying any more than £18/box anyway.
There's still a lot to unlock though, so hopefully there will be a flurry of it coming soon.
Yeah. Really I just want the campsite set to make a fun little display. Nothing is particularly pulling me in for getting a whole pick n mix (call it £70 with the postage).
I’ll see what else comes, or if anyone wants any bits to make up a full crate.
Not sure just one set is gonna be worth it at £24ish.
Looks like the first indication of "fake stretch goals". Since the beds are duplicates of existing pieces, obviously other pieces on the same tool will also be duplicated, but they'll be presented at further stretch goals even though there's no universe in which Mantic can cast extra beds without extras of those pieces.
lord_blackfang wrote: Looks like the first indication of "fake stretch goals". Since the beds are duplicates of existing pieces, obviously other pieces on the same tool will also be duplicated, but they'll be presented at further stretch goals even though there's no universe in which Mantic can cast extra beds without extras of those pieces.
Either including more models from the same mold or adding more identical beds are added to the mold.
I am perfectly fine getting more hospital beds - but what I need is more pews. (Though... if and when my Fallout game picks back up again... the beds will come in handy.)
The Auld Grump - a moldering hospital bed with a destroyed teddy bear sounds like the start of a good diorama....
And if it's more stuff, bring on the fake. "Talking of loading, we've realised we're able to squeeze an extra empty pallet into the Abandoned Office set, which will come in handy as extra scatter terrain. The pallets actually fit onto the forks of the fork lift truck so you can create your own imaginary warehouse in the safety of your home."
A free-standing garage door wasn't on my wish list, I have to say. Hoping they add something to the Mausoleum, it looks like the sparsest set and compares poorly with the Church that shares most of the parts.
I could use several of those doors - lately I have been doing more 2.5D than 3D for RPGs - standing doors, obstacles, and furniture, but the walls nothing more than ink on paper. *EDIT* I used to make 3D terrain for major locations... it's amazing how much free time has disappeared since getting married and then becoming a father.
I got some 3D printed windows from a friend, and made them into freestanding windows - and, sure enough, the first time they were on the table, somebody got thrown through them.
Then the PC that threw that somebody jumped through the window himself - the person he threw got up and started running away, rather than coming back....
If/when I run Fallout again, that overhead door will be very handy.
I have leaned that player characters are a lot more inclined to remember that their characters can jump on the furniture if there is furniture for them to jump on. Ditto for using the furniture as cover.
Heck, even remembering to search the desks is more likely, if there are desks on the table for them t search.
The Auld Grump - I'm from New England - one of the desks that they searched had seven secret drawers - that they found....
During a Kickstarter we always read the comments and suggestions about items that people would like to see in the Crates - and we're possible we'll try to make those requests a reality. One essential office item that we overlooked in the Abandoned Office was, of course, a photocopier. After all, you need something so everyone to print off copies of their backside during the Christmas party! As a result, we're pleased to say we'll be adding two photocopiers to the Abandoned Office set. The pictures above are for reference only, by the way.
lord_blackfang wrote: It's also apparently a single production run. They said they're running out of Terraincrate 1 and won't be making more.
Source? I thought that what they had said was that they won't be selling any more of the KS1 crates in the KS1 spec and will instead be selling them in the retail sets from now on.
Broken pews is a good call to I was going to cut one up now I won’t have to.
Hamper, sandwiches and drinks added to Crystal Peaks Camp and Pleasant Park (Campbell Heights and Bellevue Square)
Kitchen pots and pans added to Servants' Quarters and Cosy Cottage (Bleakwood Hall and Bellevue Square)
Two broken pews - a great suggestion from one of the backers - added to Morneville Church (Morneville Ruins)
Two smashed up dressers added to Crumbling Cottages (Morneville Ruins)
As someone pointed out in the comments, that whilst some of the stuff is cool, it's not that suited to gaming and readily available as dolls house furniture already (knife blocks, sandwiches, pots and so on).
Since we're talking about about 28mm gaming, some of it sounds too small for any games above about a warband size. Could be great for D&D but that's not for me.
I'm really hoping for an explosion of new stuff in the last 24 hours or I'm waiting until retail.
I'm currently in for the mix n match 4 set, but I'm having a hard time finding stuff that looks useful for fantasy gaming in Hyborian or the Old World settings...
I'll probably just drop down to two sets (trees and market)
I play fantasy, modern and post-apoc skirmishes, so I'm in for the 4 crate pack, but I'll probably skip the victorian town theme. Just can't decide which of the others to double up on. Might have to splurge for an extra set of just trees in any case.
I was expecting this to pick up in the last few hours, but there's nothing and the stretch goals are a bit lukewarm. So I've dropped out and will grab stuff at retail.
So now I can spend £75 on Gundams guilt free
If I am remembering correctly, neither did the first Terrain Crate.
Maybe because both were short, two week, campaigns?
Night before last, I had a dream that the PCs in my Regency Space game were using the shattered statue as cover, while they were being fired on by Redcoats.
As far as I know, I have no plans for the players to be in open rebellion against the Crown in a year's plus time....
That said, maybe I need to buy some Perry Redcoats....
- in fairness again this would be good for a walking dead scenario or you know magic carpet maybe?
