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Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 12:59:23


Post by: Strg Alt
















Hello folks,

I just saw a teaser on youtube depicting a toon renegade IK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RYfrtXJwmo

So has anybody up to this day more info on this? Such as if we will get a proper renegade IK kit? Please close this thread, if the topic is already discussed in another thread. I am looking forward to add a renegade IK to my Night Lords force and equipping it with twin gatling guns WITHOUT having to buy two bloody IK boxes.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 13:01:55


Post by: Haighus


True exemplars of honour, fealty and duty could never fall to darkness, right. RIGHT?! Duncan is NOT going to be happy…


Hmmm. Very intriguing. I'd be very happy to see Chaos variants of the Knights- more visual variety on the tabletop is always good!

I wonder if it will take the form of a spikes sprue, or actual alternate armour pieces and weapons with more sculpted detail? I hope the latter.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 13:03:24


Post by: Strg Alt


 Platuan4th wrote:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/774978.page


Geez, you are faster than the Flash. Thanks for the link.


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 Haighus wrote:
True exemplars of honour, fealty and duty could never fall to darkness, right. RIGHT?! Duncan is NOT going to be happy…


Hmmm. Very intriguing. I'd be very happy to see Chaos variants of the Knights- more visual variety on the tabletop is always good!

I wonder if it will take the form of a spikes sprue, or actual alternate armour pieces and weapons with more sculpted detail? I hope the latter.


It´s the year 2019 and GW won´t get away with only putting a graveyard fence in the IK box. If this renegade IK kit is really a thing we will see properly warped armour pieces for the stompy robot.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 13:22:37


Post by: BrookM


I'll allow this one to run on its own for now, I've only updated the thread title to be more clear.

Could this be the thing that gets me into Renegades then?


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 13:38:39


Post by: Strg Alt


 BrookM wrote:
I'll allow this one to run on its own for now, I've only updated the thread title to be more clear.

Could this be the thing that gets me into Renegades then?


Just watch Pacific Rim (2013) and you will be in the mood to buy, assemble and paint an IK in one go. Just stay clear of the second part because it´s a Power Rangers movie in disguise.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 16:56:15


Post by: BrianDavion


 BrookM wrote:
I'll allow this one to run on its own for now, I've only updated the thread title to be more clear.

Could this be the thing that gets me into Renegades then?


yeah I was mostly meh on the idea of a renegade, but if they put out a kit and even a codex I'll proably snag one to walk along with my black legion


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 16:58:36


Post by: Kanluwen


 Strg Alt wrote:

Just watch Pacific Rim (2013) and you will be in the mood to buy, assemble and paint an IK in one go. Just stay clear of the second part because it´s a Power Rangers movie in disguise.

Funny, Pacific Rim 2 made me want to do Knights more than the first did!

I'm expecting this to be something like the Warden/Preceptor kit. A pair of new frames that build off the basic Knight, with specific iconography and stuff on those sprues.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 18:00:44


Post by: Tastyfish


Replacement Sprue for Canis Rex would be my guess, was hoping for the Helstriders and Helknights.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 18:06:06


Post by: BrookM


Hoping for a completely new kit myself, the bio-mechanical look shown in the trailer is screaming new kit.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 18:08:11


Post by: Kanluwen


Remember that Canis Rex includes two sprues that the Errant/Paladin kit doesn't.

The Warden sprue:
Spoiler:



Preceptor sprue:
Spoiler:


I could see there being a weapon sprue and an adornment sprue, with chaosy stuff to put onto the Knight itself.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 18:26:35


Post by: Arbitrator


Something to consider is that we're presumably getting an animated trailer next week. Thus far, only major/sizable releases have gotten one of those. That makes me think we might see a decently sized release. At the very least, a codex, dice and a kit that's more than just IK + Upgrade sprue. With the Chaos Space Marine release it seems like there's more of a push to make Chaos more unique than just Spiky Imperials.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 18:39:11


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I’m torn on hoping for an entirely new kit, so every bit of it is Chaotic, and a couple of sprues, akin to those above, so we can individually Chaos up the original models.

There’s upside to both, but the latter but just clinch it for me, as we can then field long term Traitors, and relatively new Traitors.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/05 18:39:35


Post by: Theophony


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:

Just watch Pacific Rim (2013) and you will be in the mood to buy, assemble and paint an IK in one go. Just stay clear of the second part because it´s a Power Rangers movie in disguise.

Funny, Pacific Rim 2 made me want to do Knights more than the first did!

I'm expecting this to be something like the Warden/Preceptor kit. A pair of new frames that build off the basic Knight, with specific iconography and stuff on those sprues.


They both made me sleep .


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/06 01:10:34


Post by: Elbows


It would be awesome if actual Renegade/Chaos knights had access to some different weapons just to mix it up. If, however, they're supported by a new codex or a White Dwarf based mini-codex, it'll be a big boost for Chaos in the tournament scene. Their soup is already strong, but giving them more access to the Knight stuff they don't get (namely traits, warlord traits, relics, stratagems etc.) would be pretty damn strong.

Different weapons would be really slick though, simply to mix things up (pretty tired of seeing every single Renegade/Chaos knight wiedling dual gatling cannons)


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/06 01:15:44


Post by: parakuribo


 Elbows wrote:
It would be awesome if actual Renegade/Chaos knights had access to some different weapons just to mix it up. If, however, they're supported by a new codex or a White Dwarf based mini-codex, it'll be a big boost for Chaos in the tournament scene. Their soup is already strong, but giving them more access to the Knight stuff they don't get (namely traits, warlord traits, relics, stratagems etc.) would be pretty damn strong.

Different weapons would be really slick though, simply to mix things up (pretty tired of seeing every single Renegade/Chaos knight wiedling dual gatling cannons)


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/06/22/22nd-june-you-asked-for-chaos-knights-you-got-emgw-homepage-post-1/


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/06 05:48:10


Post by: tneva82


 Elbows wrote:
It would be awesome if actual Renegade/Chaos knights had access to some different weapons just to mix it up. If, however, they're supported by a new codex or a White Dwarf based mini-codex, it'll be a big boost for Chaos in the tournament scene. Their soup is already strong, but giving them more access to the Knight stuff they don't get (namely traits, warlord traits, relics, stratagems etc.) would be pretty damn strong.

Different weapons would be really slick though, simply to mix things up (pretty tired of seeing every single Renegade/Chaos knight wiedling dual gatling cannons)


New weapons don#t mix things up if they are poor. It's not like gatling is only weapon they have now...


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/06 07:37:02


Post by: Dr. Mills


tneva82 wrote:
 Elbows wrote:
It would be awesome if actual Renegade/Chaos knights had access to some different weapons just to mix it up. If, however, they're supported by a new codex or a White Dwarf based mini-codex, it'll be a big boost for Chaos in the tournament scene. Their soup is already strong, but giving them more access to the Knight stuff they don't get (namely traits, warlord traits, relics, stratagems etc.) would be pretty damn strong.

Different weapons would be really slick though, simply to mix things up (pretty tired of seeing every single Renegade/Chaos knight wiedling dual gatling cannons)


New weapons don#t mix things up if they are poor. It's not like gatling is only weapon they have now...


True, but there are several weapons that Choas uses that will be perfect for renegade knights. Examples include butcher canons, hell flamers.

We also need to remember that the chaos gods might make some weopns more viable than others, and who knows what craziness the dark Mechanicum have been doing...


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/07 13:04:06


Post by: Strg Alt


Who is still playing IKR in 2019?

https://ibb.co/album/gr3ZQa



Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/07 13:34:29


Post by: terry


if they do release new kits, I hope each god gets its own unique knight weapon.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/07 16:30:44


Post by: Jack Flask


I know this is super wish-listy but it'd be amazing if beyond just rules or an upgrade sprue they would bring back some of the old Chaos Knight variants like the Slaaneshi Hell-Scourge, Hell-Knight, or Hell-Strider.







I really want to see that get re-imagined in the new grittier style.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/07 17:15:19


Post by: aka_mythos


Jack Flask wrote:
I know this is super wish-listy but it'd be amazing if beyond just rules or an upgrade sprue they would bring back some of the old Chaos Knight variants like the Slaaneshi Hell-Scourge, Hell-Knight, or Hell-Strider.
Spoiler:







I really want to see that get re-imagined in the new grittier style.

Something like those would make good Chaos alternatives to the Armiger.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/08 02:28:08


Post by: Eldenfirefly


I am excited too! Maybe we will get a full blown chaos/renegade knight codex! Marked chaos knights! Already have 2 knights are a Castellan. But if they release a good chaos knight with lots of options. I might still buy it so that I can run a full chaos knight army when I feel like it, and the chaos bits from the kit can be spread out over my 4 knights.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 05:32:58


Post by: Eldenfirefly


The Chaos Knights look sooooo amazing! I need them in my life!


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 05:51:59


Post by: Lockark


Armiger and Castellans are shown with just the old chaos vehicles accoresy sprue spikies stuck on lol. Something about that part of this release is kinda underwhelming after seeing the amazing new chaos knight model.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 05:59:20


Post by: GoatboyBeta


Looks like the Chaos Knights get at least one new weapon type on the Desecrator. But the Rampager just seems like a mirrored version of the base Chaos Knight and the Imperial Gallant type.



Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 06:01:45


Post by: Eldenfirefly


The power fist might be a different weapon instead of just a more chaos cooler version of the loyalist one.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 06:08:55


Post by: Lockark


Eldenfirefly wrote:
The power fist might be a different weapon instead of just a more chaos cooler version of the loyalist one.


I think a lot of us are kinda use GW reskinning Loyalist stuff into cooler versions at this point. lol But you are correct, it could be a new weapon.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 07:07:07


Post by: BrookM


OP and thread title have been updated with most recent images and trailer.

I'll be getting one and the codex for sure, if only for the right-handed gauntlet.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 08:41:48


Post by: Breotan


I have to say that the new Chaos Knight actually looks much better than the resin kit from Forge World.



Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 08:46:08


Post by: JWBS


I've noticed the thigh armour on these ones is a bit cooler than the Imperials, and no separate knee armour. I'll probably buy one of these for the new fist and gun, slap an Imperial face on it and maybe a Mechanicus carapace/shoulders, do a bit of scraping to get rid of the spikes and teeth etc, make a new loyalist Knight w/o too much hassle.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 08:50:11


Post by: BrookM


From Twitter:



Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 08:52:01


Post by: No One Important


The underlying skeleton, new gun, and thigh plating look suspiciously unchaosy, almost like they are on separate sprues from the melee weapons and other armor plates. I wouldn't be surprised to see these knights with a couple new sprues subbed in for the distinctly Chaos sprues and released as new Imperial Knights somewhere down the line.

Assuming of course that these new bodies weren't designed to work with the existing Questoris platting and weapons and we get a dataslate for a variant with that gun in White Dwarf or something.

Either way, it'll add some nice variety to a knight army without having to cut up and repose Questoris legs.

Edit: aaaaaand the above sprues pic kinda destroys that first theory of mine.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 08:57:04


Post by: BrookM


It's a completely new kit that uses none of the original sprues. It may use the same key parts and components from the loyalist kit, but the sprues are all new and unique to this kit.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:01:02


Post by: No One Important


Obviously. What I was saying is that it might be compatible with existing sprues or additional compatible new Imperial sprues might be further down the line.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:03:23


Post by: JWBS


No One Important wrote:
Obviously. What I was saying is that it might be compatible with existing sprues or additional compatible new Imperial sprues might be further down the line.


Still could be. The above sprue doesn't have the gun or the thigh plates? (from what I can see). They might have a multi-kit sprue in this Chaos Knight kit that can also be included in future Imperial Knight box. Probably not but maybe.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:04:09


Post by: Brother Castor


Yep looks more detailed than the current sprue with battle damage etc.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:05:41


Post by: JWBS


Oh wow, the legs are also completely different. I don't mind reposing the current legs but for anyone that can't be fussed doing that this kit will have very significant utility.



Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:15:46


Post by: GoatboyBeta


My loyalist Knights have so much leg envy right now

I think the underlying frame being free of Chaos gribblyness is so they don't look out of place next to Traitor Knights converted from the existing kits.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:24:48


Post by: Not Online!!!


And now I need probably a bigger knight and a dex.....

Altough the added Chaos sprue for amirigers is a but underwhelming..


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:38:43


Post by: JWBS


Not Online!!! wrote:
And now I need probably a bigger knight and a dex.....

Altough the added Chaos sprue for amirigers is a but underwhelming..


I had thought that the Armigers were just conversions. This Castellan is clearly just a kit bash


But looking at this Armiger those thigh plates are clearly new parts


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:40:04


Post by: Not Online!!!


the left shoulder pad is also not a normal amiriger part.
On the lower Amiriger


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:49:16


Post by: JWBS


Not Online!!! wrote:
the left shoulder pad is also not a normal amiriger part.
On the lower Amiriger


Yep, he has two of them but the other one has a Chaosy bit strapped onto it (can see the crenelated bits underneath), then you look at the eight point star on the pilot hatch and it's obviously stuck on and too big. I suppose the Armiger sprues are more constrained in space (the Imperials don't have any stick-on bits like alternative icons).


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:49:26


Post by: GoatboyBeta


*looks at Armiger Warglaive on shelf*
Nah those are the standard Warglaive thigh pads, and the curved spike rack on its shoulder is from the existing CSM tank sprue.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:51:39


Post by: Not Online!!!


JWBS wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
the left shoulder pad is also not a normal amiriger part.
On the lower Amiriger


Yep, he has two of them but the other one has a Chaosy bit strapped onto it (can see the crenelated bits underneath), then you look at the eight point star on the pilot hatch and it's obviously stuck on and too big. I suppose the Armiger sprues are more constrained in space (the Imperials don't have any stick-on bits like alternative icons).


Honestly some forgefiend parts could've worked wonders on these.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:52:48


Post by: Brother Castor


Those Armigers are the standard kits with some Chaos bits glued on.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:54:04


Post by: Not Online!!!


 Brother Castor wrote:
Those Armigers are the standard kits with some Chaos bits glued on.


The one pad right yes the one left i am not sure about.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 09:59:27


Post by: JWBS


GoatboyBeta wrote:
*looks at Armiger Warglaive on shelf*
Nah those are the standard Warglaive thigh pads, and the curved spike rack on its shoulder is from the existing CSM tank sprue.


U wot m8? Mine all have these ones



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 Brother Castor wrote:
Those Armigers are the standard kits with some Chaos bits glued on.


I bet you one new Armiger kit that there's a new Chaos Armiger release with new shoulders and thighs (at a minimum).


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 10:04:15


Post by: Gael Knight


That's not a Warglaive sprue though is it?

That's a Helverin sprue.

This is the Warglaive sprue.




Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 10:05:36


Post by: ImAGeek


The only new kit is the Chaos Knight. The Armigers and Dominus’s are conversions. They said that in the seminar.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 10:05:41


Post by: JWBS


 Gael Knight wrote:
That's not a Warglaive sprue though is it?

That's a Helverin sprue.




Yeah I just came back to delete that after seeing the Helverin (Edit/ Warglaive!) but I'm too late
Also I retract my offer of a bet!


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 10:05:53


Post by: Brother Castor


The Warglaives have castellated shoulder pads that are different to the Helverins. That's a Helverin sprue and the Armiger in the video is a Warglaive.

EDIT: Too late...


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 12:56:00


Post by: Platuan4th


 Brother Castor wrote:
Yep looks more detailed than the current sprue with battle damage etc.


That's not battle damage, it's where the giant spikes glue on to look like they burst through from underneath.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 14:15:47


Post by: Tamwulf


I totally want to play a Chaos Renegade Knight army now. Think that'll make me "That Guy"?


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 14:18:40


Post by: Platuan4th


Nah, because it's still Chaos. It'll be better than we have now(minus I doubt we'll keep double Avengers), but it'll still be not as good as the non-spikey version.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 14:44:22


Post by: Brother Castor


 Tamwulf wrote:
I totally want to play a Chaos Renegade Knight army now. Think that'll make me "That Guy"?

I hope not, otherwise we'll be 'those guys'


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 14:50:13


Post by: Gael Knight


What weapons will these big lads have? Some kind of laser destroyer and ccw so far. Anything else been spotted?


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 15:01:51


Post by: lord_blackfang


Disappointed that they tooled all new sprues for a design that accomplishes nothing they couldn't do with one sprue of chains and spikes. What a waste.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 15:05:44


Post by: Platuan4th


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Disappointed that they tooled all new sprues for a design that accomplishes nothing they couldn't do with one sprue of chains and spikes. What a waste.


Good to know I can use a couple spikes and chains to create entirely new face masks, a new leg style, a new cannon type, extra piping, different exhaust ports, and subtle bulging to suggest spikes/mutations attempting to burst out of metal.

There's a lot more to this kit than "spiky Questoris".


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 15:07:01


Post by: GaroRobe


In a few years, do you think they'll release a version of the chaos knight with a fused pilot in the cockpit? XD


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 15:08:37


Post by: NinthMusketeer


I would have liked to see more 'daemon engine' elements with flesh fused in, but that is more of a personal thing. These look really good; at initial glance I thought they were just an upgrade sprue but the closer I look the more I see.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 15:37:27


Post by: JWBS


BoLS




Possibly old news, page says 9th May but I haven't seen them on Dakka yet and I only check a few threads. Claw looks like the AdMech knight kit.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 15:44:09


Post by: BrookM


Those are not Chaos knights, but upcoming Forge World upgrade kits.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 15:48:37


Post by: JWBS


Yeah course. I did a quick scan of the FW thread but I don't see them there, thought this is as good a place as any to put them for anyone that hasn't seen them yet (first I've seen of the Armigers at least but like I say I don't read many threads).


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 15:54:00


Post by: Brother Castor


The FW Armigers are AM 30k variants.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 15:54:27


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Platuan4th wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Disappointed that they tooled all new sprues for a design that accomplishes nothing they couldn't do with one sprue of chains and spikes. What a waste.


Good to know I can use a couple spikes and chains to create entirely new face masks, a new leg style, a new cannon type, extra piping, different exhaust ports, and subtle bulging to suggest spikes/mutations attempting to burst out of metal.

There's a lot more to this kit than "spiky Questoris".


Yeah the Rhino spiky bits sprue has a combi-melta and a fancy gunner, it still just makes a spiky Rhino, and this kit still just makes a spiky titan that will be indistinguishable from a regular titan with chaos bits glued to it from two tables away, whilst eating up production resources that could have been used for something new and interesting, like a modern version of one of those ancient Epic chaos titans. It's a major step back to 'loyalists with spikes" for Chaos after finally getting a few original designs in the last edition or two.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 16:58:05


Post by: Elbows


Knights sell. They sell a ton of them. This will sell a ton. GW is aware of what products of theirs sell best, so they're just chasin' the dragon.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 17:20:58


Post by: Dudeface


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Disappointed that they tooled all new sprues for a design that accomplishes nothing they couldn't do with one sprue of chains and spikes. What a waste.


Good to know I can use a couple spikes and chains to create entirely new face masks, a new leg style, a new cannon type, extra piping, different exhaust ports, and subtle bulging to suggest spikes/mutations attempting to burst out of metal.

There's a lot more to this kit than "spiky Questoris".


Yeah the Rhino spiky bits sprue has a combi-melta and a fancy gunner, it still just makes a spiky Rhino, and this kit still just makes a spiky titan that will be indistinguishable from a regular titan with chaos bits glued to it from two tables away, whilst eating up production resources that could have been used for something new and interesting, like a modern version of one of those ancient Epic chaos titans. It's a major step back to 'loyalists with spikes" for Chaos after finally getting a few original designs in the last edition or two.


But they're supposed to be loyalists with spikes in this case. They're knights that have fallen to chaos, they should have stuff bursting out their carapace and shoulders whilst being a dark mirror of their kin. This kit is exactly that.

I understand your stance on wanting something more... different, in the guise of the chaos knights from epic. There are multiple issues there though which the lord of skulls demonstrates perfectly, since it is one of those redesigned knights.

First and foremost they're daemons or possessed at the very least. In game terms this makes the stupidly good since they get buffed to high heavens by the other chaos books for next to no investment. The other issue is theyre god aligned, so unless you're running an undivided or khorne army, no superheavies for you in the chaos marine codex. Slaanesh subjugators etc would have the same issue.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 20:30:46


Post by: SarisKhan


Seems to me that this Chaos Knight isn't meant to represent a proper Renegade Knight, but a new unit altogether. From the looks of it the Knight's gonna have only 2 CCWs and the cannon thingy, so there's a chance it'll be only as expensive as the Paladin. I hope, for my wallet.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 20:54:15


Post by: Inquisitor Kallus


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Disappointed that they tooled all new sprues for a design that accomplishes nothing they couldn't do with one sprue of chains and spikes. What a waste.


Good to know I can use a couple spikes and chains to create entirely new face masks, a new leg style, a new cannon type, extra piping, different exhaust ports, and subtle bulging to suggest spikes/mutations attempting to burst out of metal.

There's a lot more to this kit than "spiky Questoris".


Yeah the Rhino spiky bits sprue has a combi-melta and a fancy gunner, it still just makes a spiky Rhino, and this kit still just makes a spiky titan that will be indistinguishable from a regular titan with chaos bits glued to it from two tables away, whilst eating up production resources that could have been used for something new and interesting, like a modern version of one of those ancient Epic chaos titans. It's a major step back to 'loyalists with spikes" for Chaos after finally getting a few original designs in the last edition or two.



Could have been...blah blah blah.......resources put to better use...blah blah....something more interesting for me.....

Ok love.

I love the look of the new Chaos Knight kits, very cool. Theres a more unkempt, brutal feel to them, exposed pipes on the upper carapac, the spikes/horns bursting through shoulder pads, the murderous looking chain weapon and grisly hanging paraphenalia. Then there are the masks. Those masks!!! So characterful, really love the designs, especially the Judge Death lookalike, I had been planning on doing a convesrion in a similar vein a while ago for a nurgle knight, just never got round to it


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 20:56:44


Post by: BrookM


These Knights have the look and feel of Questoris units that have spent some time in the Eye or elsewhere, but not enough time to become fully possessed or warped just yet, like the more recent Chaos Space Marine releases.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 20:58:00


Post by: Strg Alt


Chaos Knight looks great but only has a paladin loadout so far which means it lacks the weapon atop it´s back. I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box which includes two Chaos Knights plus weapons for the back. GW, I also need rules for the Chaos Knight for IKR.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 21:00:07


Post by: Not Online!!!


 Strg Alt wrote:
Chaos Knight looks great but only has a paladin loadout so far which means it lacks the weapon atop it´s back. I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box which includes two Chaos Knights plus weapons for the back. GW, I also need rules for the Chaos Knight for IKR.


I would love it if we could equip a Greater havoc launcher.
That would singlehandedly put me in the buy Camp.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 21:08:46


Post by: Gael Knight


That weapon isn't a battlecannon. It looks like a laser destroyer.
Spoiler:

I imagine a battlecannon will be the alternate assembly.

It'll be very disappointing if these Chaos Knights don't have access to carapace weapons. Shocking really.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 21:24:38


Post by: NinthMusketeer


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Disappointed that they tooled all new sprues for a design that accomplishes nothing they couldn't do with one sprue of chains and spikes. What a waste.


Good to know I can use a couple spikes and chains to create entirely new face masks, a new leg style, a new cannon type, extra piping, different exhaust ports, and subtle bulging to suggest spikes/mutations attempting to burst out of metal.

There's a lot more to this kit than "spiky Questoris".


Yeah the Rhino spiky bits sprue has a combi-melta and a fancy gunner, it still just makes a spiky Rhino, and this kit still just makes a spiky titan that will be indistinguishable from a regular titan with chaos bits glued to it from two tables away, whilst eating up production resources that could have been used for something new and interesting, like a modern version of one of those ancient Epic chaos titans. It's a major step back to 'loyalists with spikes" for Chaos after finally getting a few original designs in the last edition or two.
Personally, 'looks indistinguishable from 8-12 feet away' is not my standard for a kit being similar enough to warrant that criticism... were it even true. Look at the comparable knight kit; the leg structure is totally different, the upper carapace is a different design, the placement of the head is lower, there are a lot of notable distinctions that would be visible from a fair distance. I also wish they had gone further, but objectively speaking this is not the same as the tanks.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 21:28:28


Post by: GoatboyBeta


 Gael Knight wrote:

It'll be very disappointing if these Chaos Knights don't have access to carapace weapons. Shocking really.


They might have access, but I imagine that if they were in the kit they would have been shown in the previews.

In terms of dedicated models, it looks like Traitor Knights are going to be in a similar position to where there Imperial counterparts were a few years back. With one kit that has two builds. Hopefully they will do well enough to warrant the same sort of investment the Imperials have had and we will get more divergence between the two sides in the future.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 21:46:24


Post by: Phobosftw


GoatboyBeta wrote:
 Gael Knight wrote:

It'll be very disappointing if these Chaos Knights don't have access to carapace weapons. Shocking really.


They might have access, but I imagine that if they were in the kit they would have been shown in the previews.

In terms of dedicated models, it looks like Traitor Knights are going to be in a similar position to where there Imperial counterparts were a few years back. With one kit that has two builds. Hopefully they will do well enough to warrant the same sort of investment the Imperials have had and we will get more divergence between the two sides in the future.


They said all the previous entries for the renegade knight were still valid with the new codex, so thats something at least.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 21:59:04


Post by: spiralingcadaver


 lord_blackfang wrote:
Disappointed that they tooled all new sprues for a design that accomplishes nothing they couldn't do with one sprue of chains and spikes. What a waste.
+1
I think that it would have been really easy to either add a sprue and/or replace the main hull one with a chaos version, rather than changing out the rest which really does look the same.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 23:03:50


Post by: JWBS


 Strg Alt wrote:
...I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box which includes two Chaos Knights plus weapons for the back...

Haha, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a few days now. I think we're hoping for too much here. After the new-age GW deals in recent years (start collecting) and recent xmas deals like the Titan battle force (of which I bought some) and all the others, I'll be surprised if we get back to the amazing value that was IKR. I think it was buy one Kinght + a scenery piece, get a free Knight (that comes with an additional sprue of weapons!). Will we ever see the like again? I'm not so optimistic but I'll be glad if they surprise me. And I suppose if it happens it'll be sooner rather than later. I'm definitely putting a couple of hundred aside for this possibility.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/12 23:25:18


Post by: Strg Alt


JWBS wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
...I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box which includes two Chaos Knights plus weapons for the back...

Haha, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a few days now. I think we're hoping for too much here. After the new-age GW deals in recent years (start collecting) and recent xmas deals like the Titan battle force (of which I bought some) and all the others, I'll be surprised if we get back to the amazing value that was IKR. I think it was buy one Kinght + a scenery piece, get a free Knight (that comes with an additional sprue of weapons!). Will we ever see the like again? I'm not so optimistic but I'll be glad if they surprise me. And I suppose if it happens it'll be sooner rather than later. I'm definitely putting a couple of hundred aside for this possibility.


It is not an outlandish notion as you might think. GW released IKR in the past on two separate occasions. They will do so in the future too because their customers know that single IK boxes are way too expensive to purchase.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 10:09:00


Post by: Not Online!!!


Do we have a release window?


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 10:23:31


Post by: mortar_crew


While I would have prefered something more chaosy for the
close combat weapon (battle claw, energy whips of old),
the kit looks interesting.

Hope they can have carapace weapon, and that one of the face
masks is Slaanesh Marked.
(Slaanesh was the God associated with knights in EPIC so...)



Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 10:30:00


Post by: lord_blackfang


JWBS wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
...I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box which includes two Chaos Knights plus weapons for the back...

Haha, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a few days now. I think we're hoping for too much here. After the new-age GW deals in recent years (start collecting) and recent xmas deals like the Titan battle force (of which I bought some) and all the others, I'll be surprised if we get back to the amazing value that was IKR. I think it was buy one Kinght + a scenery piece, get a free Knight (that comes with an additional sprue of weapons!). Will we ever see the like again? I'm not so optimistic but I'll be glad if they surprise me. And I suppose if it happens it'll be sooner rather than later. I'm definitely putting a couple of hundred aside for this possibility.


The next IKR will obviously be 1 loyalist and 1 Chaos Knight tho.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 11:54:54


Post by: CypherTheMysterious


Overall i am loving the direction they have taken with them
No fleshy corruption, just mecanical goodness
Apparent compatibility with the existing questoris knight (confirmed?)
The las weapon main gun. I always felt knights were, logistically, more suited to energy based weapons.
The chicken legs
The right hand fist
The thigh plates

On the other hand, a few things bother/concern me
The pauldrons and top plate are broardly the same as the the imp version. It would have been nice to have a bit of variety so as to change the silhouette a bit.
The legs seem monopose. Both pics have the same pose and the crotch banner doesn't seem conducive to posability.
There only seems to be a heavy stubber as a point defense weapon. Again both versions shown have the same
And no carapace weapon either, seemingly.

As much as i want one yesterday to mechanicus up, seems prudent to wait and see if they take the same route they did with the imp knight and add a sprue a year or two down the line


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 13:41:32


Post by: Strg Alt


 lord_blackfang wrote:
JWBS wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
...I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box which includes two Chaos Knights plus weapons for the back...

Haha, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a few days now. I think we're hoping for too much here. After the new-age GW deals in recent years (start collecting) and recent xmas deals like the Titan battle force (of which I bought some) and all the others, I'll be surprised if we get back to the amazing value that was IKR. I think it was buy one Kinght + a scenery piece, get a free Knight (that comes with an additional sprue of weapons!). Will we ever see the like again? I'm not so optimistic but I'll be glad if they surprise me. And I suppose if it happens it'll be sooner rather than later. I'm definitely putting a couple of hundred aside for this possibility.


The next IKR will obviously be 1 loyalist and 1 Chaos Knight tho.


Damn, that makes sense. Too bad, I would have liked a nice Chaos Knight or two in my collection.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 15:15:46


Post by: ImAGeek


Found sprue pics on fb:





Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 15:27:59


Post by: Galas


The kit is worth for the legs alone.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 15:47:05


Post by: Nurglitch


I was really hoping for something like the Sentinel where you can really re-arrange the legs into something else, but it's really cool to see a transitional thing between Questoris and the FW type.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 15:58:52


Post by: Strg Alt


 Galas wrote:
The kit is worth for the legs alone.


I like my chicken legs warm, greasy and on a plate instead of grey plastic on a sprue.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 16:27:09


Post by: Cryptek of Awesome


 Strg Alt wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
JWBS wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
...I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box which includes two Chaos Knights plus weapons for the back...

Haha, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a few days now. I think we're hoping for too much here. After the new-age GW deals in recent years (start collecting) and recent xmas deals like the Titan battle force (of which I bought some) and all the others, I'll be surprised if we get back to the amazing value that was IKR. I think it was buy one Kinght + a scenery piece, get a free Knight (that comes with an additional sprue of weapons!). Will we ever see the like again? I'm not so optimistic but I'll be glad if they surprise me. And I suppose if it happens it'll be sooner rather than later. I'm definitely putting a couple of hundred aside for this possibility.


The next IKR will obviously be 1 loyalist and 1 Chaos Knight tho.


Damn, that makes sense. Too bad, I would have liked a nice Chaos Knight or two in my collection.


Sooo... buy a box, sell the terrain, sell the Loyalist knight and you get a Chaos knight for nearly free.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 17:15:09


Post by: Strg Alt


Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
JWBS wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
...I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box which includes two Chaos Knights plus weapons for the back...

Haha, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a few days now. I think we're hoping for too much here. After the new-age GW deals in recent years (start collecting) and recent xmas deals like the Titan battle force (of which I bought some) and all the others, I'll be surprised if we get back to the amazing value that was IKR. I think it was buy one Kinght + a scenery piece, get a free Knight (that comes with an additional sprue of weapons!). Will we ever see the like again? I'm not so optimistic but I'll be glad if they surprise me. And I suppose if it happens it'll be sooner rather than later. I'm definitely putting a couple of hundred aside for this possibility.


The next IKR will obviously be 1 loyalist and 1 Chaos Knight tho.


Damn, that makes sense. Too bad, I would have liked a nice Chaos Knight or two in my collection.


Sooo... buy a box, sell the terrain, sell the Loyalist knight and you get a Chaos knight for nearly free.


I neither buy nor sell stuff on the interwebz. I could try selling stuff in my local GW but it´s honestly too much of a hassle. No, the only sensible way would be if GW offers Chaos Knights at a discount like they did in the past with the IK. Remember GW, customer is king.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 18:25:10


Post by: Cryptek of Awesome


 Strg Alt wrote:
Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
JWBS wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
...I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box which includes two Chaos Knights plus weapons for the back...

Haha, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a few days now. I think we're hoping for too much here. After the new-age GW deals in recent years (start collecting) and recent xmas deals like the Titan battle force (of which I bought some) and all the others, I'll be surprised if we get back to the amazing value that was IKR. I think it was buy one Kinght + a scenery piece, get a free Knight (that comes with an additional sprue of weapons!). Will we ever see the like again? I'm not so optimistic but I'll be glad if they surprise me. And I suppose if it happens it'll be sooner rather than later. I'm definitely putting a couple of hundred aside for this possibility.


The next IKR will obviously be 1 loyalist and 1 Chaos Knight tho.


Damn, that makes sense. Too bad, I would have liked a nice Chaos Knight or two in my collection.


Sooo... buy a box, sell the terrain, sell the Loyalist knight and you get a Chaos knight for nearly free.


I neither buy nor sell stuff on the interwebz. I could try selling stuff in my local GW but it´s honestly too much of a hassle. No, the only sensible way would be if GW offers Chaos Knights at a discount like they did in the past with the IK. Remember GW, customer is king.


I'm guessing this is some dry German humor that I'm just not quite getting...
If they do release another Renegade box set, I'll be eagerly using the dark and scary 'interwebz' to pick up some really sweet looking new Chaos knights for $40 each.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 19:28:57


Post by: Theophony


Can’t tell from sprue pics, but with the new legs do you think there will be space for combat tails?


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 19:34:17


Post by: BrookM


No tails on the sprue, but the lower part of the body has enough space to add something there.

No meltagun present either, but I've got a feeling they'll be doing the same thing they did with the original Knight kit: release an upgrade sprue down the road with one or more new arm options, a replacement weapon for the heavy stubber and carapace weapons.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 19:40:09


Post by: Brother Castor


Spoiler:
Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
JWBS wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box ...

Haha, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a few days now. I think we're hoping for too much here.

The next IKR will obviously be 1 loyalist and 1 Chaos Knight tho.

Damn, that makes sense. Too bad, I would have liked a nice Chaos Knight or two in my collection.

Sooo... buy a box, sell the terrain, sell the Loyalist knight and you get a Chaos knight for nearly free.

I neither buy nor sell stuff on the interwebz. I could try selling stuff in my local GW but it´s honestly too much of a hassle. No, the only sensible way would be if GW offers Chaos Knights at a discount like they did in the past with the IK. Remember GW, customer is king.

I'm guessing this is some dry German humor that I'm just not quite getting...
If they do release another Renegade box set, I'll be eagerly using the dark and scary 'interwebz' to pick up some really sweet looking new Chaos knights for $40 each.

When Imperial Knights Renegade was for sale last I wasn't running a Renegade Knights list. I wouldn't normally go to eBay for gaming stuff but when it comes to knights the savings can be significant. I recently made a couple of offers on eBay for new Imperial Knight Renegade boxes but they're selling for £170+ now they're OOP In the end I somehow landed a boxed Imperial Knight Warden for £50


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/13 21:54:44


Post by: Darkseid


Is the Chaos Knight taller than a regular Imperial Knight due to he extra joint and leg-piece?


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/14 04:37:32


Post by: ImAGeek


 Darkseid wrote:
Is the Chaos Knight taller than a regular Imperial Knight due to he extra joint and leg-piece?


I don’t think so. The extra joint goes more backwards than upwards.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/14 07:12:11


Post by: Dropbear Victim


Abit of a let down if it only comes with the base weapons of the initial Imperial Knight kit when they've since expanded the weapons range twice for imperials.
If I was going to field a chaos/renegade knight I'd rather buy a Preceptor Rex kit and magnetise the abundant weapons.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/14 07:21:34


Post by: Brother Castor


Well in the index you can't use Preceptor loadouts so it will be interesting to see if that's in the codex. That's why I went for the Warden box...


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/14 13:10:16


Post by: aka_mythos


I'm certainly in the group that would like to see a return of rules for Daemon-knight/Hellknights or whatever name they get called. Even if they aren't in the codex I hope now that we're getting a plastic Chaos Knight, FW uses it as an opportunity to rebrand their old kit as a more daemonic one. There are simply too many cool conversions that go beyond just being a chaos knight dedicated to a particular god that deserve rules recognition.

 ImAGeek wrote:
 Darkseid wrote:
Is the Chaos Knight taller than a regular Imperial Knight due to he extra joint and leg-piece?


I don’t think so. The extra joint goes more backwards than upwards.
One thing we haven't see on the Chaos knight is the missile pod, all the spikes probably get in the way... but it looks like the Chaos Knight is as tall without the pod as the Paladin is with the pod.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/14 16:28:38


Post by: Strg Alt


 Brother Castor wrote:
Spoiler:
Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
JWBS wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:
I will buy the kit when GW releases a new Imperial Knights Renegades box ...

Haha, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a few days now. I think we're hoping for too much here.

The next IKR will obviously be 1 loyalist and 1 Chaos Knight tho.

Damn, that makes sense. Too bad, I would have liked a nice Chaos Knight or two in my collection.

Sooo... buy a box, sell the terrain, sell the Loyalist knight and you get a Chaos knight for nearly free.

I neither buy nor sell stuff on the interwebz. I could try selling stuff in my local GW but it´s honestly too much of a hassle. No, the only sensible way would be if GW offers Chaos Knights at a discount like they did in the past with the IK. Remember GW, customer is king.

I'm guessing this is some dry German humor that I'm just not quite getting...
If they do release another Renegade box set, I'll be eagerly using the dark and scary 'interwebz' to pick up some really sweet looking new Chaos knights for $40 each.

When Imperial Knights Renegade was for sale last I wasn't running a Renegade Knights list. I wouldn't normally go to eBay for gaming stuff but when it comes to knights the savings can be significant. I recently made a couple of offers on eBay for new Imperial Knight Renegade boxes but they're selling for £170+ now they're OOP In the end I somehow landed a boxed Imperial Knight Warden for £50


Nah, I don´t run an IK list either and own four IK. They just look gorgeous fully painted in the glass cabinet and once in a while they get some action in IKR.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/14 17:35:47


Post by: Brother Castor


Is the game any good? I thought people only bought it to play 40K with the models


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/14 20:42:34


Post by: Strg Alt


 Brother Castor wrote:
Is the game any good? I thought people only bought it to play 40K with the models


I ´ll give you my honest opinion about this topic. Yes, IKR is a really bad game and the whole purpose of the box was to supply the customer with IK at a discount. So why do I play it? Well, I wrote custom rules for the game which includes a damage chart for the back, different speed modes, ramming rules, a multitude of USR akin to 6th 40K, Ork Stompa rules and damage chart, damage chart for buildings and finally a random events chart which is handled by a poker deck.

Why all the effort? In the good old days I played a couple of times Battletech. I liked it a lot but the minis sucked big time and strangely their design didn´t improve up to this day. WTF?! So when the IK were released by GW I fulfilled one of my dreams: Collecting a couple of awesome, stompy, giant robots to relive the golden days of the hobby. Sorry AT, you arrived way too late.

I could use the IK for 8th as three of my knights are already painted but transporting them is quite a hassle. Second, playing a pure IK army in 40K seldom leads to a satisfying game unless the opposing force is also comprised of IK. Third, i would need to buy the new IK codex which I won´t do because I quit collecting army books at the end of 5th 40K.


Honour Through Annihilation - Codex: Chaos Knights @ 2019/05/14 21:29:21


Post by: Brother Castor


 Strg Alt wrote:
 Brother Castor wrote:
Is the game any good? I thought people only bought it to play 40K with the models


I ´ll give you my honest opinion about this topic. Yes, IKR is a really bad game and the whole purpose of the box was to supply the customer with IK at a discount. So why do I play it? Well, I wrote custom rules for the game which includes a damage chart for the back, different speed modes, ramming rules, a multitude of USR akin to 6th 40K, Ork Stompa rules and damage chart, damage chart for buildings and finally a random events chart which is handled by a poker deck.

Why all the effort? In the good old days I played a couple of times Battletech. I liked it a lot but the minis sucked big time and strangely their design didn´t improve up to this day. WTF?! So when the IK were released by GW I fulfilled one of my dreams: Collecting a couple of awesome, stompy, giant robots to relive the golden days of the hobby. Sorry AT, you arrived way too late.

I could use the IK for 8th as three of my knights are already painted but transporting them is quite a hassle. Second, playing a pure IK army in 40K seldom leads to a satisfying game unless the opposing force is also comprised of IK. Third, i would need to buy the new IK codex which I won´t do because I quit collecting army books at the end of 5th 40K.

That sounds great - why not