Pros:
-Death Stranding looks fun and unique...sort of.
Cons:
-Lots of "Game Franchise: Part "X""
-Almost every game is some kind of scruffy combat shooter,
-A "new" console.
-Nothing on Starfield or TES6 (BUT YOU CAN GET BLADES ON THE SWITCH NOW!! AYAYAYA. /sarcasam)
The Outer Worlds, Death Stranding, and Boulders Gate III are literally the only things that caught my eye. And even these barely caught my attention.
I feel like the industry has finally hit rock bottom.
The Industry has either hit rock bottom or you've perhaps changed and drifted from what the big names in the industry provide.
Must admit I've not followed it closely as I tend to try and avoid pre-release info as much as I can, I find it reduces the disappointment when the final version hits and they've made changes to how some core elements in the pre-view were described.
That said Baldurs Gate 3 is a massive bit of news and CD Project Red are wowing people with their new Cyberpunk game featuring Mr Anderson (yeah I can never spell his real name....)
Yeah I was pretty underwhelmed with most of what I saw. I mean i'm hyped for Doom cause the last one they did in 2016 was pretty good. All the mobile games crap I couldn't care less about. BG3 looks promising but no gameplay means nothing much to be excited about. Same with Halo infinite. I am intrigued by the Elden Ring game, simply because I liked bloodborne and DS3 so much and i'm hoping this is like an evolution of that style of game, it looks new but I got that good familiar feeling.
And a lot of the good stuff seems super far out, Doom ain't even out till the end of the year. Plus baldurs gate 3 was not announced for consoles, and i'm not about to go buy a gaming PC anytime soon.
The industry looks great to me. Cyberpunk 2077 is looking amazing. The game play trailer last year had me excited, but now with big names getting involved in the acting side I am even more excited.
The announcement of Baldur's Gate 3 is pretty great. Excited to see how that is going to go since I liked both of the Divinity games.
Death Stranding still looks like hot garbage from a guy who regularly puts out hot garbage and tries to play it off as edgy and cool.
Elden Ring looks very interesting and was a great announcement. Curious to see what those two working together can do, even though they are both fething sadists.
Bethesda had already said they were not going to mention TES6 or Starfield at E3 so I knew that was going to be a shitshow.
Nintendo is coming up and they are rumored to have some major announcements. Ports to Switch incoming, new games being announced, and of course new SSBU Characters on the horizon. Also the whole thing with them getting real buddy buddy with Microsoft here lately, so VERY curious to see what that is going to bring to the table.
Seems like only a bad year if you are not interested in these things. YMMV but definitely the only E3 I have paid attention to in the past 5 years.
Honestly the Switch is fast becoming a very powerful thing in its own right - all the power of mobile gaming (something that consoles have actually lost in recent years - you can't just take it round a friends and plug and go) all the strength of a standard console and al ot of PC and console ports as well as a big back library from Nintendo.
I don't own one yet but I have to say of all the higher priced consoles its got the biggest potential library for me. Nintendo has really got a gem in the Switch.
Overread wrote: Honestly the Switch is fast becoming a very powerful thing in its own right - all the power of mobile gaming (something that consoles have actually lost in recent years - you can't just take it round a friends and plug and go) all the strength of a standard console and al ot of PC and console ports as well as a big back library from Nintendo.
I don't own one yet but I have to say of all the higher priced consoles its got the biggest potential library for me. Nintendo has really got a gem in the Switch.
You will be pleasantly surprised to know that Microsoft and Nintendo are looking for a partnership to get even more games on that bad boy.
Dreadwinter wrote: The industry looks great to me. Cyberpunk 2077 is looking amazing. The game play trailer last year had me excited, but now with big names getting involved in the acting side I am even more excited.
The announcement of Baldur's Gate 3 is pretty great. Excited to see how that is going to go since I liked both of the Divinity games.
Death Stranding still looks like hot garbage from a guy who regularly puts out hot garbage and tries to play it off as edgy and cool.
Elden Ring looks very interesting and was a great announcement. Curious to see what those two working together can do, even though they are both fething sadists.
Bethesda had already said they were not going to mention TES6 or Starfield at E3 so I knew that was going to be a shitshow.
Nintendo is coming up and they are rumored to have some major announcements. Ports to Switch incoming, new games being announced, and of course new SSBU Characters on the horizon. Also the whole thing with them getting real buddy buddy with Microsoft here lately, so VERY curious to see what that is going to bring to the table.
Seems like only a bad year if you are not interested in these things. YMMV but definitely the only E3 I have paid attention to in the past 5 years.
I'm not calling you out or anything. But it is always so interesting when I notice things like this.
Cyberpunk looks boring, bland and uninteresting to me. CD Prokect Red has always been an over hyped, untalented studio to me.
Meanwhile, I've loved everything Kojima has ever done and hold the opposite opinion. Life is strange.
But, why do I want to play a game I've already played?
Give me something NEW, don't sell me something I've bought from you before.
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Overread wrote: The Industry has either hit rock bottom or you've perhaps changed and drifted from what the big names in the industry provide.
Must admit I've not followed it closely as I tend to try and avoid pre-release info as much as I can, I find it reduces the disappointment when the final version hits and they've made changes to how some core elements in the pre-view were described.
That said Baldurs Gate 3 is a massive bit of news and CD Project Red are wowing people with their new Cyberpunk game featuring Mr Anderson (yeah I can never spell his real name....)
It's a valid point. I have gotten to the point where I don't hardly touch a video game anymore because I have other hobbies I enjoy more.
I have spent more time in CD Projekt Red games than probably any other single player franchise. Their games are consistently good, they are great at immersing you in a world. They make amazing soundtracks and they can provide a crazy good environment to play in. The stories are fun and mostly the characters make sense, as do their motivations.
Hideo Kojima makes weird games with weird characters for the sake of being weird. Each interation makes less and less sense and he cannot decide if he wants to kill off his protagonist or not. Also, why is Snake full on tacticool and Quiet runs around in a bikini and pantyhose? But yet, probably one of the pastiest characters I have ever seen in a video game. Including Geralt of Rivea. The man has no consistency and imo, he is really bad at creating a great and immersive atmosphere in games. He just wants to be weird and it is frustrating, because his games have a LOT of potential to be great if somebody would just stop him and say "Hey, knock it off" or provide even a little feedback. IMO Konami pushing him out was probably one of their best decisions.
Why do you find CD Projekt Red to be an over hyped, untalented studio and why does Cyberpunk look boring, bland, and uninteresting to you?
Also, the FF7 Remake is definitely not the same game. You should look in to it more. Same story for sure, but wildly different combat systems, more depth to character and story lines, and more depth to the world in general. FF7 was a very limited game because of its time. They are getting the chance to flesh it out instead of just remaking it in HD and move on for easy money.
It's a valid point. I have gotten to the point where I don't hardly touch a video game anymore because I have other hobbies I enjoy more.
Yep and that's fair and perfectly normal. You've not grown beyond games just into something else and games are to one side. I dislike the notion of growing beyond or past or such because those suggest that in some way the previous interest was "lesser" and whilst that can be true for the individual, its not true in a generalist sense (and honestly most often its not true for the individual anyway). I also hold that view because many times we go in cycles, a previous hobby loses its luster and no matter how great its developments it lacks appeal*. That's just change in a persons self and situation. Heck give it a few years you might well swing around and find PC games great once again, or perhaps a studio makes something that resonates with your particular strongest tastes in games.
The only downside, in my view, is when a person fails to see this change in themselves and tries to doggedly "work" at enjoying a hobby or pass-time that is no longer as interesting to them. I've seen people get bitter, angry and even hostile about it. Frustration bubbling up in them that can boil over and sour their attitude and relationship to the hobby and even to the community and themselves. Far better to respect the change, to put it to one side (perhaps put things in storage) and then move onto something new and fresh, or a past interest from long before. Many times a simple diversion "recharges the batteries" so to speak.
Heck myself I've had periods where I've had less or no interest in models and just put it all to one side and perused other interests. A hobby should never be treated like a job and to do so can take the fun out of it.
* Your comment on CD Projeck Red is a fantastic example of this, in my view. Though I would understand your viewpoint well if you'd only tried Witcher 1 where the story was good but the combat clearly a little on the clunky side (esp compared to many more modern games); but Witcher 3 is a massive step forward.
Overread wrote: Honestly the Switch is fast becoming a very powerful thing in its own right - all the power of mobile gaming (something that consoles have actually lost in recent years - you can't just take it round a friends and plug and go) all the strength of a standard console and al ot of PC and console ports as well as a big back library from Nintendo.
I don't own one yet but I have to say of all the higher priced consoles its got the biggest potential library for me. Nintendo has really got a gem in the Switch.
Yeah, but from what I've heard the battery life is kinda bad. Everybody I know who owns one says its maybe an hour tops. They'd need to get it up to a couple hours for it to really take off.
Overread wrote: Honestly the Switch is fast becoming a very powerful thing in its own right - all the power of mobile gaming (something that consoles have actually lost in recent years - you can't just take it round a friends and plug and go) all the strength of a standard console and al ot of PC and console ports as well as a big back library from Nintendo.
I don't own one yet but I have to say of all the higher priced consoles its got the biggest potential library for me. Nintendo has really got a gem in the Switch.
Yeah, but from what I've heard the battery life is kinda bad. Everybody I know who owns one says its maybe an hour tops. They'd need to get it up to a couple hours for it to really take off.
Depends on the game it is running but the minimum I found online is 2 1/2 hours and maximum being 6 hours.
Edit: I mean, if we are talking about The Witcher combat, the second game was a MASSIVE improvement on the first and it was still a little frustrating. Just as long as it wasn't some weird rhythm game. IMO they got it nearly perfect with TW3.
Dreadwinter wrote: The industry looks great to me. Cyberpunk 2077 is looking amazing. The game play trailer last year had me excited, but now with big names getting involved in the acting side I am even more excited.
The announcement of Baldur's Gate 3 is pretty great. Excited to see how that is going to go since I liked both of the Divinity games.
Death Stranding still looks like hot garbage from a guy who regularly puts out hot garbage and tries to play it off as edgy and cool.
Elden Ring looks very interesting and was a great announcement. Curious to see what those two working together can do, even though they are both fething sadists.
Bethesda had already said they were not going to mention TES6 or Starfield at E3 so I knew that was going to be a shitshow.
Nintendo is coming up and they are rumored to have some major announcements. Ports to Switch incoming, new games being announced, and of course new SSBU Characters on the horizon. Also the whole thing with them getting real buddy buddy with Microsoft here lately, so VERY curious to see what that is going to bring to the table.
Seems like only a bad year if you are not interested in these things. YMMV but definitely the only E3 I have paid attention to in the past 5 years.
I'm not calling you out or anything. But it is always so interesting when I notice things like this.
Cyberpunk looks boring, bland and uninteresting to me. CD Prokect Red has always been an over hyped, untalented studio to me.
Meanwhile, I've loved everything Kojima has ever done and hold the opposite opinion. Life is strange.
But, why do I want to play a game I've already played?
Give me something NEW, don't sell me something I've bought from you before.
Because since 7, six of the FFgames have been utter trash (FFX is a masterpiece also & maybe FFIX/FFXV were decent) Do we need another Lightning Returns? Answer me god damn you !!! Do we!? Do you want to bring that into the world? How would you look our children in the face!? Seriously though I'm hyped but I understand where you are coming from. I probably replay FF7 at least once every 1-2 years (mostly when I get bed ridden by a flue or get a couple bonus days off and the GF is away seeing family or something). That's just because the new stuff that's on offer falls into the pitfalls of micro transaction "open worldness" where actually you just do the same 4 activities 100's of times at different locations. Yeah the graphics on offer are beautiful and impressive. the gameplay is mad smooth and fun which is obviously enjoyable. But so what? I like me a good story.
At this stage I will take something that's been remade and is a masterpiece over something that's 'new'. There's plenty AAA games that have less story than FF7 had on disc one.
It wont be the same game. The technology that's available now is laughably better than what they had in the 90's. The game play graphics are better than what the top end CG could offer back then...I'm sure there will be tweaks and they wont stay to the letter. For better or worse there will be changes, this is pretty obvious from the trailer.
1.) There are a lot of older fans who are nostalgic for the game. You still see people using Cloud or Sephiroth as handles in games, while you don't see that sort of thing for other characters like Cecil or Golbaz.
2.) There's a good story there, and there are now a lot of people who've never played the game. One of my friends who had played the game in the past liked to pull it out and replay it every now and again. But his girlfriend refused to touch it because the graphics were so blocky. She had no nostalgic connection to the game, so she wasn't willing to overlook the game's visual shortcomings. These are also the kinds of people who might be drawn in by the rerelease.
Note that I'm not planning on getting the rerelease. But I understand why SE is doing it.
Controversial opinion here: FF7 is hot garbage and JRPGs are mostly not even actually games.
Let me explain.
1) Cloud is a bitch. Every person in that game is a bitch except Cid who just really wants to go to space and thats great (and Barret... hes pretty cool too). The whole game is following around a bunch of whiny loosers who are all so full of their own gak.
2) Games have game play, which are a series of interesting choices. Interesting choices have consequences. JRPGs are "games" where you do random battles that you could beat blind folded by spamming the "fight" button to break up the monotony of walking to the next boss fight so you can watch the next cut scene. Any fight which could have interesting choices (like the bosses) can be circumvented by out leveling it making it not interesting. You make no interesting choices, there fore it has no game play thus it's not a game. It's a visual novel with interactive elements.
A FF7 remake will make a bunch of money off a bunch of suckers bleeding nostalgia for something that was always crap to begin with.
2) Games have game play, which are a series of interesting choices. Interesting choices have consequences. JRPGs are "games" where you do random battles that you could beat blind folded by spamming the "fight" button to break up the monotony of walking to the next boss fight so you can watch the next cut scene. Any fight which could have interesting choices (like the bosses) can be circumvented by out leveling it making it not interesting. You make no interesting choices, there fore it has no game play thus it's not a game. It's a visual novel with interactive elements.
There are choices within the game. They don't affect the greater plot, and I'm not going to get into them here (you can look them up if you're genuinely curious). But there are a few small sections of the game in which your earlier actions have an effect on what happens on-screen.
Lance845 wrote: Controversial opinion here: FF7 is hot garbage and JRPGs are mostly not even actually games.
Let me explain.
1) Cloud is a bitch. Every person in that game is a bitch except Cid who just really wants to go to space and thats great (and Barret... hes pretty cool too). The whole game is following around a bunch of whiny loosers who are all so full of their own gak.
2) Games have game play, which are a series of interesting choices. Interesting choices have consequences. JRPGs are "games" where you do random battles that you could beat blind folded by spamming the "fight" button to break up the monotony of walking to the next boss fight so you can watch the next cut scene. Any fight which could have interesting choices (like the bosses) can be circumvented by out leveling it making it not interesting. You make no interesting choices, there fore it has no game play thus it's not a game. It's a visual novel with interactive elements.
A FF7 remake will make a bunch of money off a bunch of suckers bleeding nostalgia for something that was always crap to begin with.
Controversial opinion:
FF7 is an RPG masterpiece of its time and you'd only think otherwise if you have no soul.
Let me explain.
Some people enjoy a narrative story in their games rather than getting a small hernia in their hands on the controller/bottom bashing/repeating the sme light attackx4 followed up by a strong attack and god mode trigger options or scraming at the screen while getting shot 15 times in a 5 min FPS round etc...
Some people don't mind getting tricked into spending 60£ for a AAA game with repetitive 4 quests giving the appearance of open world and having zero actual story or character development. Some people don't look for that in games and that's ok. Each to their own. Just look at how many people play fifa….
Also I don't believe about your claim. Please play the game and only you se only the attack button. Please do it and time it. I want to see how long it take you to complete. That way we wont have to see your obnoxious comments ever again.
Dreadwinter wrote: I would really like to see you pull that off. Also since the game is so easy don't worry about your weapons or equipment or materia choices.
When will you be streaming or posting a video?
Upgrading your weapons isn't an interesting choice. One is clearly better then the other. You put on the best equipment you have at any given moment.
Lets remember that squaresoft (or did they merge into Square enix when they did this?) is the company that introduced an auto fight mechanic into their games so that the combats would play themselves for you because they were so monotonous that they thought they would give the "players" a single click button to skip them while still reaping the rewards.
Lance845 wrote: Controversial opinion here: FF7 is hot garbage and JRPGs are mostly not even actually games.
Let me explain.
1) Cloud is a bitch. Every person in that game is a bitch except Cid who just really wants to go to space and thats great (and Barret... hes pretty cool too). The whole game is following around a bunch of whiny loosers who are all so full of their own gak.
2) Games have game play, which are a series of interesting choices. Interesting choices have consequences. JRPGs are "games" where you do random battles that you could beat blind folded by spamming the "fight" button to break up the monotony of walking to the next boss fight so you can watch the next cut scene. Any fight which could have interesting choices (like the bosses) can be circumvented by out leveling it making it not interesting. You make no interesting choices, there fore it has no game play thus it's not a game. It's a visual novel with interactive elements.
A FF7 remake will make a bunch of money off a bunch of suckers bleeding nostalgia for something that was always crap to begin with.
Controversial opinion:
FF7 is an RPG masterpiece of its time and you'd only think otherwise if you have no soul.
Let me explain.
Some people enjoy a narrative story in their games rather than getting a small hernia in their hands on the controller/bottom bashing/repeating the sme light attackx4 followed up by a strong attack and god mode trigger options or scraming at the screen while getting shot 15 times in a 5 min FPS round etc...
Some people don't mind getting tricked into spending 60£ for a AAA game with repetitive 4 quests giving the appearance of open world and having zero actual story or character development. Some people don't look for that in games and that's ok. Each to their own. Just look at how many people play fifa….
Also I don't believe about your claim. Please play the game and only you se only the attack button. Please do it and time it. I want to see how long it take you to complete. That way we wont have to see your obnoxious comments ever again.
It doesn't have to be twitch shooters to be "game play".
Chess has game play. Tetris has game play. The orientation and placement of every piece has consequences that makes your every action a interesting choice.
Stories are fine. Great even. Nothing wrong with playing a virtual novel with interactive elements. It's just calling it what it is. I just so happen to think FF7 is a crap one of those.
Edit: Also, to anyone saying you would love to see it happen. Go play FF8. Get squall killed and then have the rest of your party fight. The monsters levels are directly tied to squalls level to attempt to "scale" the game to the players. Squall will end the game at like... level 10? (And thus every monster and boss in the game will also be level 10) while everyone else could be in the 70-90s. You can one shot the last boss with the worst weapons in the game.
Dreadwinter wrote: I would really like to see you pull that off. Also since the game is so easy don't worry about your weapons or equipment or materia choices.
When will you be streaming or posting a video?
Upgrading your weapons isn't an interesting choice. One is clearly better then the other. You put on the best equipment you have at any given moment.
Lets remember that squaresoft (or did they merge into Square enix when they did this?) is the company that introduced an auto fight mechanic into their games so that the combats would play themselves for you because they were so monotonous that they thought they would give the "players" a single click button to skip them while still reaping the rewards.
Lance845 wrote: Controversial opinion here: FF7 is hot garbage and JRPGs are mostly not even actually games.
Let me explain.
1) Cloud is a bitch. Every person in that game is a bitch except Cid who just really wants to go to space and thats great (and Barret... hes pretty cool too). The whole game is following around a bunch of whiny loosers who are all so full of their own gak.
2) Games have game play, which are a series of interesting choices. Interesting choices have consequences. JRPGs are "games" where you do random battles that you could beat blind folded by spamming the "fight" button to break up the monotony of walking to the next boss fight so you can watch the next cut scene. Any fight which could have interesting choices (like the bosses) can be circumvented by out leveling it making it not interesting. You make no interesting choices, there fore it has no game play thus it's not a game. It's a visual novel with interactive elements.
A FF7 remake will make a bunch of money off a bunch of suckers bleeding nostalgia for something that was always crap to begin with.
Controversial opinion:
FF7 is an RPG masterpiece of its time and you'd only think otherwise if you have no soul.
Let me explain.
Some people enjoy a narrative story in their games rather than getting a small hernia in their hands on the controller/bottom bashing/repeating the sme light attackx4 followed up by a strong attack and god mode trigger options or scraming at the screen while getting shot 15 times in a 5 min FPS round etc...
Some people don't mind getting tricked into spending 60£ for a AAA game with repetitive 4 quests giving the appearance of open world and having zero actual story or character development. Some people don't look for that in games and that's ok. Each to their own. Just look at how many people play fifa….
Also I don't believe about your claim. Please play the game and only you se only the attack button. Please do it and time it. I want to see how long it take you to complete. That way we wont have to see your obnoxious comments ever again.
It doesn't have to be twitch shooters to be "game play".
Chess has game play. Tetris has game play. The orientation and placement of every piece has consequences that makes your every action a interesting choice.
Stories are fine. Great even. Nothing wrong with playing a virtual novel with interactive elements. It's just calling it what it is. I just so happen to think FF7 is a crap one of those.
Edit:
Also, to anyone saying you would love to see it happen. Go play FF8. Get squall killed and then have the rest of your party fight. The monsters levels are directly tied to squalls level to attempt to "scale" the game to the players. Squall will end the game at like... level 10? (And thus every monster and boss in the game will also be level 10) while everyone else could be in the 70-90s. You can one shot the last boss with the worst weapons in the game.
haha yeh…But we are talking about an era where you could cast regen, kill last enemy and open the disc cover before battle finish sequence began, regen full health then close disc cover and carry on... Also there were cheat discs you could bu in a shop that would elt you have sephiroph in your party I never said FF8 was good, by far one of my least favourite.
Anyway that's all well and good but we were talking about FF7 purely on its own merits at the time. As I said most of the FF games are trashfire tier garbage. Sadly.
I can see why you are calling it a novella, they did not have the capacity to put voice acting in a game that size so there is a feth tonne of reading...like a looooooot of reading. The first thing you end up doing in a new game is jacking the text speed up to max (which you wont know about when you first got it ) and not everybody 'reads good'.
People now cant get into it because you have to read and the graphics are terribad compared to what came since. Its understandable.
Bottom line is I think the limitations it suffered due to the technology it made up for in raw story telling and gameplay - yes game play.
Because what can you compare it to from that point in time?
Only MGS comes to mind - Another outstanding game. You had to change controller from port 1 to 2 when fighting mantis etc. what sort of madness!?
Alas I digress. The remake should be good to see if they can offer the same level of story telling backed up by state of the art game play and graphics.
P.S. Apparently there will changes to CID character... He wont smoke, hit shera or curse and be angry macho man swearing at everybody :(
Apparently its not suited for the modern snowflake audience.
Look, you can like the story. Like what you like. Just like I think the story is crap. I dislike what I dislike. FF6 (3 here in 'Murica) had a far better story with a far better cast of characters who were not all a bunch of whiny little gaks. Also, sephiroth is a incredibly over valued villain who did nothing of consequence. Kefka actually won, became god, and ruined the world.... at the half way point of the story. When the heroes win in FF6 they win back the broken ruins of the world to try to rebuild. If you want good story telling, go look at that one. I am not worried about the graphics. I enjoy Dwarf Fortress. A game with no graphics to speak of (It's all in ascii). Graphics has no true bearing on how good or bad a game (or virtural novel) is. Voice acting also has nothing to do with it. I can, and gladly, read. Reading isn't an issue. The characters suck. Their motivations suck. Their dialog sucks. The world is semi interesting. The actual opposition is a bunch of anime nonsense that is powerful for because. The materia system is an upgrade to 6s esper system. Thats all it's got going for it.
I stand by my statement that FF7 has no game play to speak of. Minigames within the visual novel don't count.
Top 10... hmmmm
No particular order.
-Darksouls 3 -Mario Party 1(the original on the n64) -Witcher 3 -Alien Isolation -Castlevania Symphony of the Night (Probably the game I have beaten more than any other) -Metro 2033 -A wrestling game on the N64 (don't care which one. They were all great) -The Gameboy Harvest Moon (I don't know why. That game rocked) -Hellblade: Senuas Sacrifice (for the way it handles it's subject matter. The game is legit art). -And... I dunno... A rogue Like? Deadcells or Rogue Legacy? Something with a lot of hard game play and replayability.
It's too bad Final Fantasy 1 wasn't the final fantasy. All of those games are boring as sin. the only one I enjoyed was 8, and even that was a chore to dredge through.
The last game I legitimately enjoyed playing was Fallout New Vegas
Lance845 wrote: Look, you can like the story. Like what you like. Just like I think the story is crap. I dislike what I dislike. FF6 (3 here in 'Murica) had a far better story with a far better cast of characters who were not all a bunch of whiny little gaks. Also, sephiroth is a incredibly over valued villain who did nothing of consequence. Kefka actually won, became god, and ruined the world.... at the half way point of the game. When the heroes win in FF6 they win back the broken ruins of the world to try to rebuild. If you want good story telling, go look at that one. I am not worried about the graphics. I enjoy Dwarf Fortress. A game with no graphics to speak of (It's all in ascii). Graphics has no true bearing on how good or bad a game is.
I stand by my statement that FF7 has no game play to speak of. Minigames within the visual novel don't count.
Top 10... hmmmm
No particular order.
-Darksouls 3
-Mario Party 1(the original on the n64)
-Witcher 3
-Alien Isolation
-Castlevania Symphony of the Night (Probably the game I have beaten more than any other)
-Metro 2033
-A wrestling game on the N64 (don't care which one. They were all great)
-The Gameboy Harvest Moon (I don't know why. That game rocked)
-Hellblade: Senuas Sacrifice (for the way it handles it's subject matter. The game is legit art).
-And... I dunno... A rogue Like? Deadcells or Rogue Legacy? Something with a lot of hard game play and replayability.
Indeed. Will have to agree to disagree on this one.
I've played all the FF games..Completed 6 at least twice. It really doesn't hold your hand at all and is pretty hard.
Oooh strong list. I must have put over 200 hrs into Dark souls 3...Ended up with a weird gargoyle hammer build which works surprisingly well. Its great but often became about who has slightly less lag/better connection when skill evens out.
Mine would be something like:
FF7 & FF10- Obviously
MGS - The original and guns of the patriots
Tekken 3 - (But any of them really)
Rome - total war
Never winter nights 1&2
Fallout & skyrim - because they are pretty much the same thing...
Armored Core - Any of them.
Lineage 2 - Lets not speak of the youth this game took from me...
Pokémon games on the Gameboy - All of them
Dark souls 3
There is a lot of information out there on FF8(my favorite of the main series) but not a single person claims it is tied to Squalls level. What I did find was it scaled off your parties average level in the game and there were two mentalities on beating it. You could sandbag and not level much to keep the random monster levels down but you would run in to the bosses who had static levels not based on the average and abuse the junction system for power.(which was the true broken part of the game) or you could grind up and outscale the bosses and then just have to worry about the random mobs throughout the game. But it appears it does not work as advertised here.
FF8 offered easy mode - Max HP up on squall(later on evrybody else) then keep them around the 25% mark and just press O until limit break appears and just limit break everything into oblivion.
I didint like it beause all of the characters & NPC's were Humans. There was no veriaty for me and the story was meh.
Back on the topic of E3...
Apart from already mentioned FF7 Im also hyped about Doom eternal. Looks like heaps of fun!
Other than that there didint seem to be much else to get excited about for me so overall bit meh.
I think a lot of the developers held back as the next gen console is just around the corner. (Bethesda elder scrolls 6 & Starfield being one of them)
Melissia wrote: Well, looks like Nintendo runs the best E3 presence once again.
Haven't seen it yet, was hoping to view it after work. What are the highlights?
Dragon quest main characters in smash.
new dq game along with them
luigi's mansion 3
Dark Crystals game (what, why?)
link's awakening for switch
trials of mana (which I'm looking forward to)
releases of various /name/ of mana games for NA audiences
witcher 3 on switch
new fire emblem game
resident evil series from 1 to 5 on switch
no more heroes 3
new Contra game
a mecha game Daemon Machina
more info on the upcoming pokemanz game
that new action game whose name I didn't catch where you play some cop who summons sentient armor or something?
a mafia style game
a marvel comics game
some mario and sonic olympics game
.... minecraft dungeons? what?
doom eternal
the sinking city
the wolfenstein games
dead by daylight
alien isolation
several other games announced to be on the switch soon
banjo+kazooie smash bros character
breath of the wild 2 announcement
I might have missed stuff but there's a short summary.
Deathloop has been the standout for me so far, everything Arkane have put out thus far has been brilliant and while there's no gameplay in the reveal, I imagine it'll borrow a lot of its DNA from Prey and Dishonored and thus be super slick and very creative. Combine that design pedigree with a neat aesthetic and premise and I think they're onto another winner.
Also very much on board with Avengers: A-day, aside from Spidey on the PS4 there's been a dearth of decent Marvel games in recent years.
I think what's surprised me the most is how many things are slated for Q1/2 2020. I really thought the next 18 months would be pretty barren as all the publishers geared up for the PS5 and Project Scarlett, so I'm glad that it looks like this generation is going to get a fairly generous last hurrah before the next one rolls in.
Time to buy a switch. Between this and my office mate constantly playing Lapis X Labyrinth... I need a switch.
Look up "Contra: Rogue Corps". It might not be the style you're thinking of. Closer to a top down (well, top down at an angle) style shooter than a side scroller.
I'm guessing that the Marvel game is the new Avengers game from Crystal Dynamics. The presentation for it during the Square-Enix event was posted on YouTube. I'm still in wait and see mode on it.
Also very much on board with Avengers: A-day, aside from Spidey on the PS4 there's been a dearth of decent Marvel games in recent years.
I think what's surprised me the most is how many things are slated for Q1/2 2020. I really thought the next 18 months would be pretty barren as all the publishers geared up for the PS5 and Project Scarlett, so I'm glad that it looks like this generation is going to get a fairly generous last hurrah before the next one rolls in.
Well, aside from the length of the barren time, you seem pretty on point. The rest of 2019 isn't exactly full of titles. I know Doom Eternal has people all sorts of excited, but mostly I think 2019 is mostly going to remembered for DLC and the absolute, steaming wreckage of games that came and failed. A few bright spots here and there (three kingdoms, maybe... mechwarrior 5, if its still 2019? Not sure what else it out there for this year, to be honest).
I have enjoyed quite a bit of E3 this year. Nintendo had a ton of great things. Cyberpunk 2077 is of course looking great. But this game has me so excited!
Also, even though I really never played Heroes of Might and Magic as a kid. This looks pretty damned great!
1) Cloud is a bitch. Every person in that game is a bitch except Cid who just really wants to go to space and thats great (and Barret... hes pretty cool too). The whole game is following around a bunch of whiny loosers who are all so full of their own gak.
Yeah, no. Don't confuse Cloud in the actual game of Final Fantasy VII with what Square Enix turned him into in all the spin-off materials. Cloud has acquired a reputation for being whiny and angsty but most of that actually comes from Advent Children. His angst in the first game is really not all that much, until he is lead to believe he is just a clone with implanted memories, at which point he is removed from the party until Tifa brings him back to himself, which also means he no longer has any doubts and internal conflicts to hold back his determination to stop Sephiroth.
Please cite examples of actual whining from the characters, from the game.
Dark Crystal has been having some increasing popularity; there's at least two recent connected comic series and also whilst (far as I'm aware) the sequel film has never been made, there IS a Netflix series coming this August
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Crystal:_Age_of_Resistance
So yeah a game makes perfect sense!
Nintendo is getting good with the Switch too - I just saw the E3 for them and the switch is honestly exciting!
1) Cloud is a bitch. Every person in that game is a bitch except Cid who just really wants to go to space and thats great (and Barret... hes pretty cool too). The whole game is following around a bunch of whiny loosers who are all so full of their own gak.
Yeah, no. Don't confuse Cloud in the actual game of Final Fantasy VII with what Square Enix turned him into in all the spin-off materials. Cloud has acquired a reputation for being whiny and angsty but most of that actually comes from Advent Children. His angst in the first game is really not all that much, until he is lead to believe he is just a clone with implanted memories, at which point he is removed from the party until Tifa brings him back to himself, which also means he no longer has any doubts and internal conflicts to hold back his determination to stop Sephiroth.
Please cite examples of actual whining from the characters, from the game.
I am not confusing gak. Cloud has been a whiner who does nothing of his own will since the game came out.
Tiffa pines after the boy who ignores her.
Cloud does what everyone else tells him to do, then gets rolled around in wheel chair by the girl who pines after him then decides to go stop meteor because everyone else tells him it's a good idea.
Red XIII mopes about being a genetic experiment or some gak.
Barret, instead of moping, has the single emotion of anger at everyone and everything all the time. A step up, but not a big one.
Cid, still awesome. Wants to go to space.
Yuffie just wants to belong. The poster child for dependency issues.
The vampire dude (forget his name) is every person who ever played Vampire the Masquerades character. Quiet and brooding cause thats cool or something?
Aris. Clouds girlfriend in a fridge. Or would be if at any point the game actually gave cloud any motivations that were not told to him by other characters.
Sephiroth, did nothing but almost summon meteor. Every other action done by "sephiroth" were actually his clones.
etc...
By comparison.
FF6
Celes, genetically engineered cybernetically enhanced mage knight. Total bad ass, betrays her kingdom because they are fethed.
Cyan, total bad ass samurai dude who has his family killed by Kefka when he commits an actual war crime and goes on a bad ass revenge quest.
Sabin and Edgar, both 2 dimensional on the surface when edgars a womanizer whatever and sabin is a meat head until you get into the back stories of them being twins, why they split and went their separate ways and how they got to where they are.
Shadow the increidble bad ass ninja with a dog who is odin that is running from his past and keeping himself away from his daughter realm.
Terra, the awesome half esper bad ass who is brain washed witha slave crown and has to find her place in the world, eventually taking in all the lost children in the world of ruin and fighting to keep them safe from kefkas madness.
Gau, the awesome wild child of the veldt.
Setzer, the gambling womanizing airship pirate who is actually burying his pain with his bravado for his lost love and other airship piratess.
Locke, the bad ass indiana jones guy who is helping with the underground resistance while trying to save the love of his life whos stuck in a crystal or some gak.
Kefka, the only FF bad guy whos any good at his job. Actually wins. Becomes a god. Destroys the world and rules over it. Wants absolute power and gets it manipulating everyone every step of the way.
Every single character in FF6 (which is WAY MORE characters then are in 7) have vastly more depth and vastly less whine then the characters in 7 with the exceptions of Mog, whos just a mog, Umaro, who is a Sasquatch, and Gogo, who is a mystery.
With the exception of those last 3 any character in ff6 could be the main character of ff6. FF7 is full of such charisma vacuums that follow each other around instead of making decisions for themselves that your stuck with the charisma vacuumest character cloud to be the main character because how could any of the others possibly take the leading role in a story? Cloud wins out by default because hes such a nothing character that every other follower can just dump their desires on him and he has no other choice but to move forward dragging them with.
Celes - whines about not knowing what to do... then whines about things done...
Cyan - Whines about family being killed. Then always goes on about family being killed.
Sabin & Edgar - Actually like sabin. He's a bad ass. Edgar whines about having to rule a kingdom.
Shadow - Doesn't say anything. Has no depth as has no real story. Might as well be a summon.
Terra - Whines about not remembering nothing and being a lil bich and then is a scared lil bich about everything.
gau - Yeah... What's his story again ?
Setzler - 1 dimensional - look at me I'm a womanizer sky pirate. The plot twist about his broken heart surprised you did it?
Locke - Whiney goody two shoes.
kefka - Crazy murder clown that's just crazy...
The other main villain is a weird purple octopus that can talk.... yeah...
FF7 - Cloud - Doesn't give a gak about anything to start with then starts to care, a bad ass ex solidier. Ends up with a background story and is all messed up because he's actualy a clone/experiment.
Barrat - He's always angry all of the time. Family also killed and vows revenge. Except he has to fight his long lost best friend who blames him for his entire village being burned to the death . Then he calmes down a bit. Also beats his chest like a mad man.
Tiffa - Yeah she's whiny AF and kicks and punches people which is lame....
RedXII - Is actually a little kid trying to find his place in the world... Is whiny because of his dad. Then mans up, then his grandad dies. So hes whiny about that.
Vincent - is on a quest for revenge vs sephiroph and is actualy a vampire that can transform into leatherface and later the devil.
Cait Sith - Is some sort of remote controlled stuffed animal.. Whines about having no friends...No rela depth might as well be a summon.
Yuffie - Look she just wants to borrow your Materia. leave her be...
Aries - Whines about the planet suffering. Who cares..
Cid - Lobs a spear at things punches his GF across the room and just wants to go to space.
Sephiroph - He just wants to get his birthright as the ruler of the planet. Nothing to see here.
I think you are missing the point that the over arching villain is Shinra. They are responsible for killing bunch of people, and their greed leads to the meteor malarchay and keeping jenova alive...
Also they have "The TURKS" working for them. need I say more?
Overall I think the FF7 characters have more depth despite inferior quantity...
Argive wrote: Celes - whines about not knowing what to do... then whines about things done...
Celes, the one who actually decides it's time to end Kefka and starts traveling around the world of Ruin getting the team back together?
Cyan - Whines about family being killed. Then always goes on about family being killed.
Less whining and more motivated and determined.
Sabin & Edgar - Actually like sabin. He's a bad ass. Edgar whines about having to rule a kingdom.
And yet has tons of charisma and funds/helps run a resistance movement to stop the empire.
Shadow - Doesn't say anything. Has no depth as has no real story. Might as well be a summon.
Then I guess you didn't beat that timed part fast enough to save his life and get all his back story about Relm?
Terra - Whines about not remembering nothing and being a lil bich and then is a scared lil bich about everything.
And then ACTUALLY finds her place in the world and stands up for it. Unlike the protagonist from the other one.
gau - Yeah... What's his story again ?
One of the only characters with no story tied to the main story. You do however run into his father in the game (or can) and get his back story. But, hes never a whiner about anything. Big step up from the FF7 cast.
Setzler - 1 dimensional - look at me I'm a womanizer sky pirate. The plot twist about his broken heart surprised you did it?
Not a surprise just noting how it makes him NOT 1 dimensional. The 1 dimensional-ness is all a show boating front for the person he actually is.
Locke - Whiney goody two shoes.
Who never whines and is always self motivated and helping others.
kefka - Crazy murder clown that's just crazy...
And good at his job!
The other main villain is a weird purple octopus that can talk.... yeah...
Every FF has dumb reoccurring enemies.
FF7 - Cloud - Doesn't give a gak about anything to start with then starts to care, a bad ass ex solidier. Ends up with a background story and is all messed up because he's actualy a clone/experiment.
IS he a bad ass ex-solider? Or did the game just TELL you hes a bad ass? When did you ever see him actually DO anything bad ass?
Barrat - He's always angry all of the time. Family also killed and vows revenge. Except he has to fight his long lost best friend who blames him for his entire village being burned to the death . Then he calmes down a bit. Also beats his chest like a mad man.
I don't disagree with your assement of barret. He's more one dimensional then you depict Setzer to be.
Tiffa - Yeah she's whiny AF and kicks and punches people which is lame....
Agreed.
RedXII - Is actually a little kid trying to find his place in the world... Is whiny because of his dad. Then mans up, then his grandad dies. So hes whiny about that.
Doesn't Redxiii have a kid too? I seem to remember a shot of him with a pup?
Vincent - is on a quest for revenge vs sephiroph and is actualy a vampire that can transform into leatherface and later the devil.
Yup. Every 13 year olds wet dream.
Cait Sith - Is some sort of remote controlled stuffed animal.. Whines about having no friends...No rela depth might as well be a summon.
I didn't bother to mention him before because he's really not worth mentioning. Low hanging fruit is low.
Yuffie - Look she just wants to borrow your Materia. leave her be...
Dependency issues.
Aries - Whines about the planet suffering. Who cares..
Girlfriend in the fridge.
Cid - Lobs a spear at things punches his GF across the room and just wants to go to space.
I don't remember him punching his gf across the room lol. Do you think that will be in the remaster?
Sephiroph - He just wants to get his birthright as the ruler of the planet. Nothing to see here.
However, some game editors have criticized Sephiroth's character. For example, IGN's Smith has stated that "Sephiroth was certainly a good-looking fellow, but his motivations were about as clear as mud."[89] When comparing Sephiroth with the Final Fantasy VI villain, Kefka Palazzo, GamesRadar commented that he "seems as interesting as a dead accountant painted brown."[90] 1UP.com took a humorous approach to Sephiroth's several appearances after apparent deaths and in other games, ranking him third in their "They Is Risen" feature, which covered the ten most notorious video game resurrections. The publication noted that if the character continued to be used, Square Enix would eventually "run out of ways to remix One-Winged Angel."[91] GameSpy editor Ryan Scott called Sephiroth the "King of Overrated Characters" during GameSpy's villain feature for Dissidia Final Fantasy, arguing that gamers were impressed by him only because of his design and by how he killed Aerith during Final Fantasy VII.[92] On the other hand, AnimeFringe called him "the most notorious villain in the entire Final Fantasy series" and "quintessential bishōnen in the eyes of many fans -- male and female," comparing him with Kefka and praising his complexity.[93]
At least Kefka's motivations and actions are clear and consistent.
I think you are missing the point that the over arching villain is Shinra. They are responsible for killing bunch of people, and their greed leads to the meteor malarchay and keeping jenova alive...
Also they have "The TURKS" working for them. need I say more?
Overall I think the FF7 characters have more depth despite inferior quantity...
Shinra is the bad guy in the same way that the Empire is the bad guy. In that they are initially the organization that is the threat but they are not ultimately the true threat of the games. You don't have a final battle against shinra because ultimately their machinations don't matter.
I.... did not get that conclusion from your list. Their depth is non existent.
Argive wrote: FF7 - Cloud - Doesn't give a gak about anything to start with then starts to care, a bad ass ex solidier. Ends up with a background story and is all messed up because he's actualy a clone/experiment.
Just going to note this one, because I didn't feel like reading through all of them, and this one jumped out at me...
Spoiler:
NOT an ex-Soldier. He just thought he was. Also not a clone. Again, he just thought he was.
On another note, Kefka and Ultros from Final Fantasy VI have both turned up as boss fights in Final Fantasy XIV. Ultros turned up in a rather silly and comical trial battle in A Realm Reborn. Kefka was one of the fictional villains recreated by Omega as part of its quest to improve itself during the Omega raids in Stormblood. Doomtrain (also from Final Fantasy VI) also put in an appearence as another of the viliains that Omega recreated.
Argive wrote: Celes - whines about not knowing what to do... then whines about things done...
Celes, the one who actually decides it's time to end Kefka and starts traveling around the world of Ruin getting the team back together?
Cyan - Whines about family being killed. Then always goes on about family being killed.
Less whining and more motivated and determined.
Sabin & Edgar - Actually like sabin. He's a bad ass. Edgar whines about having to rule a kingdom.
And yet has tons of charisma and funds/helps run a resistance movement to stop the empire.
Shadow - Doesn't say anything. Has no depth as has no real story. Might as well be a summon.
Then I guess you didn't beat that timed part fast enough to save his life and get all his back story about Relm?
Terra - Whines about not remembering nothing and being a lil bich and then is a scared lil bich about everything.
And then ACTUALLY finds her place in the world and stands up for it. Unlike the protagonist from the other one.
gau - Yeah... What's his story again ?
One of the only characters with no story tied to the main story. You do however run into his father in the game (or can) and get his back story. But, hes never a whiner about anything. Big step up from the FF7 cast.
Setzler - 1 dimensional - look at me I'm a womanizer sky pirate. The plot twist about his broken heart surprised you did it?
Not a surprise just noting how it makes him NOT 1 dimensional. The 1 dimensional-ness is all a show boating front for the person he actually is.
Locke - Whiney goody two shoes.
Who never whines and is always self motivated and helping others.
kefka - Crazy murder clown that's just crazy...
And good at his job!
The other main villain is a weird purple octopus that can talk.... yeah...
Every FF has dumb reoccurring enemies.
FF7 - Cloud - Doesn't give a gak about anything to start with then starts to care, a bad ass ex solidier. Ends up with a background story and is all messed up because he's actualy a clone/experiment.
IS he a bad ass ex-solider? Or did the game just TELL you hes a bad ass? When did you ever see him actually DO anything bad ass?
Barrat - He's always angry all of the time. Family also killed and vows revenge. Except he has to fight his long lost best friend who blames him for his entire village being burned to the death . Then he calmes down a bit. Also beats his chest like a mad man.
I don't disagree with your assement of barret. He's more one dimensional then you depict Setzer to be.
Tiffa - Yeah she's whiny AF and kicks and punches people which is lame....
Agreed.
RedXII - Is actually a little kid trying to find his place in the world... Is whiny because of his dad. Then mans up, then his grandad dies. So hes whiny about that.
Doesn't Redxiii have a kid too? I seem to remember a shot of him with a pup?
Vincent - is on a quest for revenge vs sephiroph and is actualy a vampire that can transform into leatherface and later the devil.
Yup. Every 13 year olds wet dream.
Cait Sith - Is some sort of remote controlled stuffed animal.. Whines about having no friends...No rela depth might as well be a summon.
I didn't bother to mention him before because he's really not worth mentioning. Low hanging fruit is low.
Yuffie - Look she just wants to borrow your Materia. leave her be...
Dependency issues.
Aries - Whines about the planet suffering. Who cares..
Girlfriend in the fridge.
Cid - Lobs a spear at things punches his GF across the room and just wants to go to space.
I don't remember him punching his gf across the room lol. Do you think that will be in the remaster?
Sephiroph - He just wants to get his birthright as the ruler of the planet. Nothing to see here.
However, some game editors have criticized Sephiroth's character. For example, IGN's Smith has stated that "Sephiroth was certainly a good-looking fellow, but his motivations were about as clear as mud."[89] When comparing Sephiroth with the Final Fantasy VI villain, Kefka Palazzo, GamesRadar commented that he "seems as interesting as a dead accountant painted brown."[90] 1UP.com took a humorous approach to Sephiroth's several appearances after apparent deaths and in other games, ranking him third in their "They Is Risen" feature, which covered the ten most notorious video game resurrections. The publication noted that if the character continued to be used, Square Enix would eventually "run out of ways to remix One-Winged Angel."[91] GameSpy editor Ryan Scott called Sephiroth the "King of Overrated Characters" during GameSpy's villain feature for Dissidia Final Fantasy, arguing that gamers were impressed by him only because of his design and by how he killed Aerith during Final Fantasy VII.[92] On the other hand, AnimeFringe called him "the most notorious villain in the entire Final Fantasy series" and "quintessential bishōnen in the eyes of many fans -- male and female," comparing him with Kefka and praising his complexity.[93]
At least Kefka's motivations and actions are clear and consistent.
I think you are missing the point that the over arching villain is Shinra. They are responsible for killing bunch of people, and their greed leads to the meteor malarchay and keeping jenova alive...
Also they have "The TURKS" working for them. need I say more?
Overall I think the FF7 characters have more depth despite inferior quantity...
Shinra is the bad guy in the same way that the Empire is the bad guy. In that they are initially the organization that is the threat but they are not ultimately the true threat of the games. You don't have a final battle against shinra because ultimately their machinations don't matter.
I.... did not get that conclusion from your list. Their depth is non existent.
That's slander good sir!!
I cant remember the bit about shadow sort of rings a bell. I replayed the game at least twice from what I remember. I think I got to the point where I just didn't want to grind out the levels and must have missed a bunch of stuff.
Regarding cloud - No he isn't technically true however also is as he has transplanted memories... But you don't actually know that until much later in the game,at the start of the game he is portrayed as a cold hearted mercenary. By the point you discover the truth he actually is pretty bad ass, shoots meteors and beams out of his sword etc.. His character goes through a bit of a heroes journey and develops in my opinion. Obviously ya'll don't have to agree.
SO what do people think about Elden RIng? Are we potentially looking at Dark Souls 4 ?
Saying Cloud is whiny is ignoring about 99% of his Backstory. At the beginning of the game he barely even knows his own name because of some crazy gak that happens with the real badass of the series, Zac.
Zac is the true hero of series, mostly because he bitch slaps Sephiroth and Angelo quite a bit.
I am eagerly anticipating more news about Elden Ring.
Terra had more mind fuckery than cloud and became more of a bad ass. And her super awesome abilities come from her esper heritage. Clouds come from..... making limit breaks look neat despite having no story basis for why a person could do them?
Dreadwinter wrote: Saying Cloud is whiny is ignoring about 99% of his Backstory. At the beginning of the game he barely even knows his own name because of some crazy gak that happens with the real badass of the series, Zac.
Zac is the true hero of series, mostly because he bitch slaps Sephiroth and Angelo quite a bit.
Also, this is happening!
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Whatever.
On a more serious note...
1.) Not really interested in it since VIII was the first game in the series that I disliked. Still do. But to each their own.
2.) And having said that, is the trailer supposed to be the remastered version? Because it looks *exactly* like what I remember from back in the day.
Lance845 wrote: I am eagerly anticipating more news about Elden Ring.
Terra had more mind fuckery than cloud and became more of a bad ass. And her super awesome abilities come from her esper heritage. Clouds come from..... making limit breaks look neat despite having no story basis for why a person could do them?
That would have a lot to do with Zac and what went on in Crisis Core. You should really look more in to what happened in the story instead of saying stuff you know nothing about. Normally you are a lot more thorough in your arguments but here it just seems like "Could is whiney and I don't like it! Wah!"
Also here is the Original FF8 Gameplay. I agree, these things are COMPLETELY IDENTICAL. Look at that gameplay. LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE REMASTERED VERSION!
However, some game editors have criticized Sephiroth's character. For example, IGN's Smith has stated that "Sephiroth was certainly a good-looking fellow, but his motivations were about as clear as mud."[89] When comparing Sephiroth with the Final Fantasy VI villain, Kefka Palazzo, GamesRadar commented that he "seems as interesting as a dead accountant painted brown."[90] 1UP.com took a humorous approach to Sephiroth's several appearances after apparent deaths and in other games, ranking him third in their "They Is Risen" feature, which covered the ten most notorious video game resurrections. The publication noted that if the character continued to be used, Square Enix would eventually "run out of ways to remix One-Winged Angel."[91] GameSpy editor Ryan Scott called Sephiroth the "King of Overrated Characters" during GameSpy's villain feature for Dissidia Final Fantasy, arguing that gamers were impressed by him only because of his design and by how he killed Aerith during Final Fantasy VII.[92] On the other hand, AnimeFringe called him "the most notorious villain in the entire Final Fantasy series" and "quintessential bishōnen in the eyes of many fans -- male and female," comparing him with Kefka and praising his complexity.[93]
At least Kefka's motivations and actions are clear and consistent.
So are Sephiroth's. He wants to summon meteor so that he can absorb the power of the lifestream which the planet calls to repair itself from the resulting wound. It is very clearly explained in the game.
Also, his clones and JENOVA are all acting according to his will. Whilst his real physical body may not be moving around, he is still affecting the story by sheer force of his will upon those who share a connection to him.
And writing off Tifa as pining for Cloud is doing a great disservice to her character. She identified that Cloud was not all there when he turned up in Midgar and was keeping an eye on him throughout the entire game up until the lifestream sequence in Mideel.
Zac is the true hero of series, mostly because he bitch slaps Sephiroth and Angelo quite a bit.
I really, really hope they don't add all that stuff from Crisis Core into the remake. Crisis Core was a fun game but Angelos and Genesis did nothing to actually improve the FF7 story and I think it actually harmed it in many ways by throwing in a load of extra stuff, especially in Nibelheim.
FF7 - Cloud - Doesn't give a gak about anything to start with then starts to care, a bad ass ex solidier. Ends up with a background story and is all messed up because he's actualy a clone/experiment.
IS he a bad ass ex-solider? Or did the game just TELL you hes a bad ass? When did you ever see him actually DO anything bad ass?
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Nibelheim. Sephiroth runs him through and lifts him into the air. Cloud, pre experimentation by Hojo so no JENOVA cells, is then able to force himself back down, lift up sephiroth by the sword which is currently run through him and throw him off a bridge and into a pool of mako.
Lance845 wrote: I am eagerly anticipating more news about Elden Ring.
Terra had more mind fuckery than cloud and became more of a bad ass. And her super awesome abilities come from her esper heritage. Clouds come from..... making limit breaks look neat despite having no story basis for why a person could do them?
That would have a lot to do with Zac and what went on in Crisis Core. You should really look more in to what happened in the story instead of saying stuff you know nothing about. Normally you are a lot more thorough in your arguments but here it just seems like "Could is whiney and I don't like it! Wah!"
Also here is the Original FF8 Gameplay. I agree, these things are COMPLETELY IDENTICAL. Look at that gameplay. LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE REMASTERED VERSION!
sigh
Do you guys know what you are talking about?
I think making arguments in the vein of "You don't know anything did you even play this game!" are incredibly shallow considering how much of this I have talked about thus far. For FF8: If those are the improved graphics then what was even the point? For FF7 my point is the story telling in a FF might have never been worse then it was in 7. As for Crisis Core, I never played that. Are you making the argument that in order to understand who Cloud, the main character of FF7, actually is you need to play an entirely separate game that came out 10 years latter?
Either from nostaligia or your mind filling in the blanks to make the pieces fit you (and others) have made cloud into a bad ass. He's not. FF7 is full of a lot of okay to really good character designs and a couple really good songs and a whole lot of nothing characters held together by a decent outline for a story that was poorly executed. People loved it because it was the first one on the PS and not sprite based. People loved it because it was so long it was on multiple disks and that makes it better right!, and because "cinematics". FF7 is all show.
Nintendo is getting good with the Switch too - I just saw the E3 for them and the switch is honestly exciting!
Oh I see. I don't really follow anything netflix so that'd explain why there was a sudden interest in something so old. I figured no one would know what it was.
I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
The backgrounds in Final Fantasy VII to IX still hold up pretty well, especially if they were retouched up, because they are pre-rendered.
For example, here's one of the environments from Balamb Garden created by a fan as an example of what an HD remaster could look like:
Spoiler:
Looks pretty good to me. The jarring part was the character models looking out of place in the pre-rendered world. In that regard FF9 was the best as its character models fitted in best with the pre-rendered world.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
I didn't catch this. Mind elaborating or providing a link?
I thought I saw that you would still be able to transfer everything forward with Pokemon Bank or some gak so that all the pokemon can keep moving forward?
AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
I didn't catch this. Mind elaborating or providing a link?
I thought I saw that you would still be able to transfer everything forward with Pokemon Bank or some gak so that all the pokemon can keep moving forward?
I don't have a link because my office blocks everything. But they have stated that there will be no National dex in sword and shield, which is usually how you get the full pokedex. They have implied that pokemon not included in the Galar Region pokedex will not be able to be transferred into Sword and Shield.
They have stated that the Pokemon Home app on the nintendo switch will be compatible with the Pokemon Bank for the 3ds and can hold every pokemon on it. So you can get your full national dex from sun and moon onto your switch. However you won't be able to get them in Sword and Shield yet. I have no doubt this will be an online patch at some point. Especially with as big a deal as the big pokemon tournaments are. Losing 3/4s of pokemon is huge.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
I didn't catch this. Mind elaborating or providing a link?
I thought I saw that you would still be able to transfer everything forward with Pokemon Bank or some gak so that all the pokemon can keep moving forward?
I don't have a link because my office blocks everything. But they have stated that there will be no National dex in sword and shield, which is usually how you get the full pokedex. They have implied that pokemon not included in the Galar Region pokedex will not be able to be transferred into Sword and Shield.
They have stated that the Pokemon Home app on the nintendo switch will be compatible with the Pokemon Bank for the 3ds and can hold every pokemon on it. So you can get your full national dex from sun and moon onto your switch. However you won't be able to get them in Sword and Shield yet. I have no doubt this will be an online patch at some point. Especially with as big a deal as the big pokemon tournaments are. Losing 3/4s of pokemon is huge.
Gotcha. I am less confident that it will get patched. Consider it like MTG tournaments where only the last 3 waves of cards are tourny legal.
Pokemon has been getting a bit out of control for a long time now. By making each game a concise list of pokemon you can keep the game balanced around the current batches instead of having to balance everything always against everything that has come before it.
It's in the Nintendo Treehouse which aired immediately after E3. You're not going to be able to transfer anything from Home to SwSh if it isn't in the SwSh regional 'dex, and this is going to be how the games work going forward. They cited game balance and animation quality as the reasons behind this change. So you'll be able to transfer everything from Bank to Home (Home being the replacement for Bank from Gen 8 forward), but you won't be able to transfer any Pokémon from Home to SwSh if it isn't in the regional 'dex, and you can't move Pokémon back to Bank from Home.
Also, they now no longer need to find a place in the world to stick... 4 meteors, a magic lamp, a bunch of disk drives, a flute, a device to merge the B/W legendaries, a item to upgrade kaldeo, a magic mirror for the B/W trio, the ever growing list of mega stones, the ever growing list of z move carry items, A item to merge zygarde bits, a bunch of electronics to shift the forms of that electric ghost pokemon, etc etc...
Pokemon has gotten WAY out of control in terms of random ass gak you need to do gimmicks with all kinds of pokemon and having to reintroduce/reprogram the ever growing list of them into every game is a nightmare. Good on them for moving forward.
The other aspect for them is moving to the Switch means a lot of work in animation and upscaling. That's a huge backlog of pokemon to work with, esp since most are unique enough that they aren't going to share much so you've got to work through each one from scratch.
I can see why they'd want to re-set it.
Also moving forward its likely because you've got a lot of new fans who don't have fire red or the old games and who honestly don't "want" to play those old very different (very limited by todays standards) games to get those rare missing pokemon.
I can see logic, but I can also see a lot of classic pokemon still turning up. The starters, legendaries, pickachu etc...
The only thing that makes me sad about it is that I had a team of pokemon that has earned the Elite 4 Champion Badge (and in ruby/sapphire the beauty pageant ribbons) in like the last 5 pokemon games and I really like transferring them over after I've beaten the newest game and getting them that extra ribbon on their profile.
So I'm gonna be sad if they can't all get their Sword and Shield badges.
Otherwise I don't much care. I always play the full game before transferring over anyway. I mainly use the transfer features as a way to quickly complete the pokedex.
They're using the same models they've had since X/Y which was released in 2013. They made the models much better than the 3DS could actually support specifically to future proof them.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
LOL. This is exactly why I stopped playing games on PC (with VERY few exceptions such as Dwarf Fortress). I just can't be bothered fething around with PCs anymore.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
LOL. This is exactly why I stopped playing games on PC (with VERY few exceptions such as Dwarf Fortress). I just can't be bothered fething around with PCs anymore.
It's actually better today by and large, but try to keep one OS generation behind the current.
I'm on Win 8.1 right now and the list of games that I own that it won't run is tiny - even smaller when I include the few that refused to run, but which are now on GOG (such as Metal Fatigue). In fact right now the only games in the list are Populus ones (which are known to have an issue with win 8.1).
GOG has made great strides and whilst it does sometimes mean rebuying a game the regular sales and price of older software is pretty cheap - worth it and more for a fun game you're going to sink hours back into all over again.
HD remakes are great fun too - upscaling for a modern larger screen is loads of fun and I welcome the classics getting make overs.
GOG offer a bunch of old stuff but then games which is mostly patched up. Unfortunately awesome old games like Empire Earth dont work at all on newest windows.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
They dropped the "gotta catch them all" thing a few gens back anyway where you would only need to have seen everything. It's more of a balancing move, but they haven't even mentioned how many pokemon will be in just that it would be a lot.
It's not the first time we've had to drop a bunch of pokemon only to have them added in over time. And when you are able to use them you'd just transfer them in from home anyway.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Here Here!
This has become a trend in electronic gaming lately, and I have abstained for the very reason you have listed.
So, I'll end the FF debate right here and now.
NO FF game has ever come anywhere near the greatness that was "The Legend of Dragoon."
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
LOL. This is exactly why I stopped playing games on PC (with VERY few exceptions such as Dwarf Fortress). I just can't be bothered fething around with PCs anymore.
See I have the opposite reaction. I can't be bothered to mingle with the peasants down on console lane.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
Having just spent nearly two goddamn days in a fruitless attempt to get KotOR running on Windows 10, I firmly disagree that remasters are pointless. Any graphical tweaks they make are mere gravy on the main course that is the game actually functioning on modern systems.
I can see how console players might care less for the idea, but on PC I can think of half a dozen games I'd love to get a remaster just so I can play the damn things again without having to build an extra PC out of old components to run XP on.
LOL. This is exactly why I stopped playing games on PC (with VERY few exceptions such as Dwarf Fortress). I just can't be bothered fething around with PCs anymore.
Erm, this isn't exactly a common occurrence yeah? KotOR came out in 2003 and like, five and a half operating systems ago. It's so old the basic game never came with widescreen resolutions, and a lot of the issues stem from Bioware using wonky-ass methods that the modern OS devs just never thought to account for(for example, it doesn't play cinematics inside the game, it basically tabs the game out and opens a new window, plays the video in that, then switches back to the game - except that's so dumb nobody working on W10 considered it, so the OS gaks itself after the video finishes).
I've not had to "feth about" with PC for 99% of games(at the time they launched) for well over a decade now.
And hey, at least on PC there's a *chance* an old game will run off the bat, how many original XBox games run on the XBone, like, 20? And Sony & Nintendo expect you to rebuy everything by default.
Lance845 wrote: I am eagerly anticipating more news about Elden Ring.
Terra had more mind fuckery than cloud and became more of a bad ass. And her super awesome abilities come from her esper heritage. Clouds come from..... making limit breaks look neat despite having no story basis for why a person could do them?
That would have a lot to do with Zac and what went on in Crisis Core. You should really look more in to what happened in the story instead of saying stuff you know nothing about. Normally you are a lot more thorough in your arguments but here it just seems like "Could is whiney and I don't like it! Wah!"
Also here is the Original FF8 Gameplay. I agree, these things are COMPLETELY IDENTICAL. Look at that gameplay. LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE REMASTERED VERSION!
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Do you guys know what you are talking about?
I think making arguments in the vein of "You don't know anything did you even play this game!" are incredibly shallow considering how much of this I have talked about thus far. For FF8: If those are the improved graphics then what was even the point? For FF7 my point is the story telling in a FF might have never been worse then it was in 7. As for Crisis Core, I never played that. Are you making the argument that in order to understand who Cloud, the main character of FF7, actually is you need to play an entirely separate game that came out 10 years latter?
Either from nostaligia or your mind filling in the blanks to make the pieces fit you (and others) have made cloud into a bad ass. He's not. FF7 is full of a lot of okay to really good character designs and a couple really good songs and a whole lot of nothing characters held together by a decent outline for a story that was poorly executed. People loved it because it was the first one on the PS and not sprite based. People loved it because it was so long it was on multiple disks and that makes it better right!, and because "cinematics". FF7 is all show.
What have you talked about thus far? So far all you have done is complain about how the characters are whiney and angsty. FF8 has improved Graphics and clearly you didn't have to wait for them to switch as I linked the old gameplay that CLEARLY looks different than the new gameplay. But I guess that doesn't really matter? FF8 still bad because GRRRR.
All the information about Cloud and what happened to him is in FF7 and it is fully explained. Crisis Core goes more in depth as to what happened to Zac, who is the protagonist and actual member of Soldier that. Zac saves his life gives him his iconic Buster Sword. Cloud does not start as a badass, but instead as a man who has just gone through a deeply troubling encounter and is thus thrust in to the role of Hero. Which he does not want but begrudgingly takes. No filling in the blanks here. He wasn't even a Member of Soldier so he was far from a badass. He was just a random goon helping Zac fight Sephiroth. Nobody here has claimed that he starts as one, but because he does end up becoming the hero, he becomes the badass as well. Not really any nostalgia. FF7 is far from my favorite FF game. But I at least represent the story correctly instead of whining about it.
Argive wrote: I feel FF8 remastered is pointless,the same way I think all remastered games are pointless.. its a trick to get you to fork out £20 on something thats exactly the same as what you already own. with slightly better character models which looks like garbage compared with the outdated environment and even more garbage compared with current state of the art graphics...
So, it is exactly the same except for the parts that are different? Gotcha. Sound logic.
You're right Deadwinter. FF8s original graphics were worse then I remembered. And the remasters graphics are bad enough that I thought they were the original ones.
I have not been "whining" about FF7. I expressed the opinion that the "game" 1) sucks and 2) is over rated. I supported it by pointing out how the characters suck, how the story telling sucks, and how the villain sucks.
Especially when years earlier they did a much better job. Again, like what you like. Lots of people like the Michael Bay Transfomers movies too. It's fine. You can absolutely enjoy sucky things.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: The greater Pokémon community online is going bananas because apparently from the upcoming Sword and Shield and onwards you won't be able to get every Pokémon in a given game any more (as in not all of them will even be programmed into the game). For a series with the tagline "Gotta catch 'em all!" that's... questionable.
On the one hand, I get it because there's getting to be a lot of the damn things and it's gotta be resource intensive to keep building up that kind of bloat, especially when many of them are probably pretty forgettable, both among fans and in terms of gameplay. I mean really, does anyone give a damn about Luvdisc? I feel like Pokemon should be finding ways to expand itself other than adding more Pokemon and really this is a problem of the franchise's own making. Why isn't there a Pokemon MMORPG at this point, honestly, other than Nintendo still looking at online content as something of tacked on consideration? Why hasn't the combat system appreciatively developed any further since Gen4? Why, given that there are people in their 40s now who love these games, has Pokemon remained a narrative dead zone for the most part? I feel like it would be nice to see Pokemon expand in other directions and cul some of its roster bloat.
On the other hand, the game is literally a collection game and I question how they'll decide to cull Pokemon from entries and manage that in the long term. I doubt any major favorites will go anywhere cause come on, like they're going to ditch fan favs for any reason, but reducing collectibility seems like the opposite direction for the very nature of the franchise that has built its popularity on giving people ever more ways and means of collecting digital critters.
Lance845 wrote: I am eagerly anticipating more news about Elden Ring.
Terra had more mind fuckery than cloud and became more of a bad ass. And her super awesome abilities come from her esper heritage. Clouds come from..... making limit breaks look neat despite having no story basis for why a person could do them?
So, it is exactly the same except for the parts that are different? Gotcha. Sound logic.
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To quote Thoros of Myr "It is and it isint"....The overall thing is the same... The marginal difference(so is it really a difference?) in all remastered old gen games which still looks like crap in today's standards is not worth it. Might as well remake it from the ground up, id pay for that sure.
Ive just seen too many lazy ports with slightly updated character models charging for 1/2 price of AAA game.
Just my opinion. Its a hook where you buy the game thinking its going to be great but then play it for 10 minutes before deciding actually the graphics are still crap and go onto play a new AAA game you bought recently but did not have time to play and forget about it. I'm only speaking from anecdotal experience.
Lance845 wrote: You're right Deadwinter. FF8s original graphics were worse then I remembered. And the remasters graphics are bad enough that I thought they were the original ones.
I have not been "whining" about FF7. I expressed the opinion that the "game" 1) sucks and 2) is over rated. I supported it by pointing out how the characters suck, how the story telling sucks, and how the villain sucks.
Especially when years earlier they did a much better job. Again, like what you like. Lots of people like the Michael Bay Transfomers movies too. It's fine. You can absolutely enjoy sucky things.
That is all fine and dandy as long as you at least represent FF7 correctly in your arguments and point to things. Complaining with nothing to back up your argument is whining. Through and through.
Notice how a lot of things you have said have been disproven. Bad arguments are bad.
Lance845 wrote: You're right Deadwinter. FF8s original graphics were worse then I remembered. And the remasters graphics are bad enough that I thought they were the original ones.
I have not been "whining" about FF7. I expressed the opinion that the "game" 1) sucks and 2) is over rated. I supported it by pointing out how the characters suck, how the story telling sucks, and how the villain sucks.
Especially when years earlier they did a much better job. Again, like what you like. Lots of people like the Michael Bay Transfomers movies too. It's fine. You can absolutely enjoy sucky things.
That is all fine and dandy as long as you at least represent FF7 correctly in your arguments and point to things. Complaining with nothing to back up your argument is whining. Through and through.
Notice how a lot of things you have said have been disproven. Bad arguments are bad.
Nothing I have said has been disproven besides one person pointing out the scene where cloud throws sephiroth off a bridge (a single scene where cloud does something noteworthy).
My assessment of every character in FF7 stands. Cloud is a nothing character. Barrets 1 dimensional, vincent is a juvenile spank fest and the rest of them are whiney loosers (except Cid... who apparently has other problems i forgot about haha). Sephiroths motivations were cloudy enough that even if the game does spell it out professional reviewers still thought it was "muddy" likely because, as I said, the story telling sucks. FF7 continues to be all nostaliga and show. It's popularity is based on being the first polygonal jrpg, the first with cinematics, and the first on the play station. It's not the best at anything and taken side by side, merit for merit, it's only better then the absolute worst FF games (which are truely bottom tier garbage).
Again, despite all that, you might actually still like it. And thats fine.
Lance845 wrote: You're right Deadwinter. FF8s original graphics were worse then I remembered. And the remasters graphics are bad enough that I thought they were the original ones.
I have not been "whining" about FF7. I expressed the opinion that the "game" 1) sucks and 2) is over rated. I supported it by pointing out how the characters suck, how the story telling sucks, and how the villain sucks.
Especially when years earlier they did a much better job. Again, like what you like. Lots of people like the Michael Bay Transfomers movies too. It's fine. You can absolutely enjoy sucky things.
That is all fine and dandy as long as you at least represent FF7 correctly in your arguments and point to things. Complaining with nothing to back up your argument is whining. Through and through.
Notice how a lot of things you have said have been disproven. Bad arguments are bad.
Nothing I have said has been disproven besides one person pointing out the scene where cloud throws sephiroth off a bridge (a single scene where cloud does something noteworthy).
My assessment of every character in FF7 stands. Cloud is a nothing character. Barrets 1 dimensional, vincent is a juvenile spank fest and the rest of them are whiney loosers (except Cid... who apparently has other problems i forgot about haha). Sephiroths motivations were cloudy enough that even if the game does spell it out professional reviewers still thought it was "muddy" likely because, as I said, the story telling sucks. FF7 continues to be all nostaliga and show. It's popularity is based on being the first polygonal jrpg, the first with cinematics, and the first on the play station. It's not the best at anything and taken side by side, merit for merit, it's only better then the absolute worst FF games (which are truely bottom tier garbage).
Again, despite all that, you might actually still like it. And thats fine.
The soundtrack timing alone is the best of any game.. For example the music that rolls when you first step out onto the world map out of midgar realy captures the wonderlust... Anyhow,.Lance just doesn't like it for some reason and hes made up his mind.. Hes entitled to his opinions, or hi trolling whichever it is .
@ Lance - Sadly from various sources, I have heard that CID will be toned down quite a bit. He wont swear, smoke or be abusive towards sherra. (I was pretty sure he slaps sherra at one point...But I think I misremebered it, apologies) Also REDXIII is a kid during the game - Kind of like dog years so hes 48 but actually 14 or sumin? Its explained by the old floaty wise man in cosmo canyon. The scene with the puppies is right at the end of FF7 and pretty sure its prefixed with 300 years later or somin where midgar is all covered with green ivy.
Ah... I thought the Red Xiii thing might have been a character wrap up moment. Isn't Red XIII a genetic experiment? Does that mean all Red XIIIs are hermaphrodites that self reproduce or did someone make Red XIII a lady friend in a lab?
RED was locked in the lab where the group finds him with Aries... He's descended from Cosmo Canyon and his name is Nanaki. Some sort of talking four legged thing. He's the son of warrior Seto whom he assumed was a coward who left his mother to die. Plot twist however, in actuality Seto fought to the death alone to save the village from the GI tribe!!
I'm not really sure what Hojo was doing. I personally think he didn't do anything to RED and I don't think its explained. I think the 'XIII' tattoo indicates specimen number...But that does not necessarily mean all tattooed specimens are sephiroph clones.
Hojo's plan(whose whole deal was that he had an inferiority complex regarding his predecessor and sephirophs creator) was that he treated Aeris and RED like endangered specimens/animals. RED was supposedly the last of his kind and so was Aeries. So he brought them into an enclosure in order to ehmmm… procreate... ?? Don't ask me how that was supposed to work. Its plausible there were others of his kind somewhere.
The game is like 22 years old. That's before the internet, tolerance, gay rights, outrage culture and a whole other bunch of cultural changes that have happened. Quite frankly a lot of old content is a bit cringy by todays society standards. I mean wall market 'busy bees' and Dons place... how could they put that in a modern game.?
Also here is the Original FF8 Gameplay. I agree, these things are COMPLETELY IDENTICAL.
I played the PC release of FFVIII. It apparently had better quality graphics than the Playstation version did. That's why the remastered trailer doesn't really look different from what I remember. There are likely improvements over the old PC version. But they aren't noticeable enough to register when comparing it with my memory of the PC version.
The soundtrack timing alone is the best of any game.. For example the music that rolls when you first step out onto the world map out of midgar realy captures the wonderlust...
Best example is when Cloud is telling everyone about Nibelheim when they reach Kalm. When you wake up on the bed in the Shinra mansion and the only sound is the heartbeat and bell of Sephiroth's theme. You are walking through this empty house and down into the basement with nothing but that heartbeat and bell. You find Sephiroth in the basement, hearing his laughter before you see him. He tells you of his heritage, the music disappears, and then, at the moment he tells you that he is going to see his mother, the choir kicks in. Spine tingling.
Man what is it with Empire Earth this week? I offhandedly mentioned it my trainer at the gym on monday and since then I've had a door to door salesmen tell me it was his first RTS (he saw me watching a civ6 stream on my tv) and now I've seen it mentioned on dakka.
Man what is it with Empire Earth this week? I offhandedly mentioned it my trainer at the gym on monday and since then I've had a door to door salesmen tell me it was his first RTS (he saw me watching a civ6 stream on my tv) and now I've seen it mentioned on dakka.
ha, EE was great, the 2 was okish, the 3rd was aburning disaster trainwreck not deserving the name game.
ha, EE was great, the 2 was okish, the 3rd was aburning disaster trainwreck not deserving the name game.
I didn't even know they made an empire earth 3. I jumped off the RTS ship shortly after empire earth 2 when I discovered Galactic Civilizations 2. It's still weird to me that Stardock games create random desktop and office software to subsidize their game development.
I've been watching more E3 trailers. What are the thoughts on Deathloop? I was sold on the tone and style of the trailer.
Totally overlooked the John Romero game, "Empire of Sin". Its been too long since hes really put his name to something and...well, I guess it needs a butchers.
Nothing on his other game, Blackroom. That looked interesting...
Argive wrote: The game is like 22 years old. That's before the internet, tolerance, gay rights, outrage culture and a whole other bunch of cultural changes that have happened. Quite frankly a lot of old content is a bit cringy by todays society standards. I mean wall market 'busy bees' and Dons place... how could they put that in a modern game.?
The Corneo bit was....yeah.....but I do hope the remake incorporates some of the funnier stuff from the original rather than going with the expanded universe trends of Sephiroth fanservice and Cloud being mopey. There was a Twitter thread of wacky things that people wanted to see again, including--
--Cid getting really passionate about people sitting down and drinking their tea!
--Red impersonating a human soldier.
--"It's because of that #%$! pizza that people underneath are suffering!"
--Snowboarding.
--SATAN SLAM
--Tifa and Scarlet having a slap fight on the Mako Cannon.
--Hojo chilling at the beach.
--The haunted hotel.
--Cait Sith making a heroic, tearjerking sacrifice and being replaced two minutes later.
--Sephiroth blowing up the solar system twice in the same fight.
--The squats contest.
--Vincent turning into Jason Voorhees.
--Being attacked by wandering houses in Midgar.
--Cloud saying "let's mosey" before the final battle.
Yeah, some of FF7's charm is in being both comical and serious, at the right times. Personally, I don't see the 90s comical part translating well into this more realistic vision. Apparently they will keep the hilarious brothel scene( Cloud in drag ) but the almost chibi-look of the original allowed for that. Many 90s anime would switch to chibi-form when doing something stupidly hilarious( Dragon-Half, "I DONT LIKE CHEESY CWACKERS!!!" ) yet FF7 was mostly in that mode anyway.
We could be in for a suprise though, and they could pull it off magnificently.
(FFX is a masterpiece also & maybe FFIX/FFXV were decent)
Don't have a switch, but all deserve a cheer nonetheless!
Its plausible there were others of his kind somewhere.