Haha thats cool, i wish they did soapbox in UK, would've been awesome fun to do as a youngster. How did you use the ab, is it not too much of a large area to cover?
inmygravenimage wrote:Working on getting completely distracted from painting! I also need to start thinking about getting my wee fella into cub scouts - our local pack is so competitive that apparently we need to get in a year early! Also need to start on my death cult...
Just don't get the two confused eh?
Capitansolstice wrote:My dad and I finished work on my brothers pinewood derby car this weekend too! I must say its pretty sweet! I also have 2000 points of SM in simple green waiting for a re paint
Pics! I must have pics! Of course you'll have to post them somewhere else and link them (can't put non gaming pics in the dakka gallery), but I'd love to see it. My blog... my rulez!
Cutthroatcure wrote:Working on my Warriors of Chaos, Trying to actually complete an entire painted Army List and First fantasy Army.
A lofty goal... and one I've never achieved. Still working on every army I own.
SelvaggioSaky wrote:Finishing my 'ard boyz and working on the'alf truk for the slugga boyz... got a lot of plasticard in the mail as well eheheh
Sounds great! I envy you builder types... just don't have the stones myself.
GiraffeX wrote:You know all about my Chaos blog, but what you don't know about yet is the Sisters Of Battle that are on route via the post office. Estimated painting date summer 2013!!! I'm a bit ahead of myself with these ladies but I'd rather get metal when I have the chance (from ebay) than the possibility of failcast. I've read the WD codex and they look quite fun to play.
Other than squats (which will never return), SOB is the only army that still beckons to me.
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Some eye candy for you all....
Raided Hits_the_Spot's web site and snagged some of his older, unwanted figures. A titan tech priest, servitor and skulls and an inquisitor, all done in deep red... which will work perfectly with my Red Knights when I finally get around to finishing them off. Really excited about having some of Steve's work in-hand. Very impressive.
Thanks Steve! You made my day!
Titan Tech Priest with Servitor & Servo-skulls:
Inquisitor Angelus Castor:
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Here's the fruit of our labors!
Got "champion" written all over it. Unfortunately it's not my son's car...
Dunno, he's an Inquisitor I guess. No need for huge shoulder pads when your not weathering a hailstorm of incoming rounds day-in, day-out. Besides... it's hard to see chaos sneakin' up on you with those big shoulder pads!
I do like those FW servitors. You're a lucky man to have grabbed some of Steve's stuff. I was very tempted, but I've just bought about 2000 points of unbuilt guard from someone in the trade threads and couldn't justify more spend.
Ah yes... there is always that calculation. However since these were already built and expertly painted... it seemed like a good use of gaming funds. (and not all that many to boot)
@CC: Thanks! Hope the young man likes how it turned out!
The edges of the auto pin-striping tape are much less visible on the car in-person, it's the angle of the photo and the bright lights of my light tent that make it look so obvious. I suppose if this was Thing 2's car, I might be anal enough to airbrush over the lines with black, or to take some narrow black pin-striping and cover the edges of the flame piece with it... but I think it'll stand as is for his friend.
And that's your "Git's Tip" for the day! Real automobile pin-striping is fantastic for putting uniform lines on small models, be they a pinewood derby car or an GW model. Especially the simple striping like a solid line of color (black, white, red)... the pin-striping tape is very secure, comes in different widths and really thin (top to bottom). You can even curve it just like the true pin-striping masters do on automobiles. So, why fight city hall eh? Somebody went to a lot of trouble to develop this stuff, might as well use it!
... and yes, Hit's work IS freakin' awesome. There are a number of people on dakka who's work I really want examples of. Not only to have but to use as study pieces. I've gotten some through the GMS & am slowly accumulating others through purchases. Sometimes having an item in-hand can really open your eyes in a way no photograph can. Well worth the investment.
Gitsplitta wrote: I've gotten some through the GMS
But yes nerdfest... I do indeed worship the artistic ground you walk on. Well, I would... if your feet actually touched the ground when you walked. Unfortunately you're so full of HOT AIR that you float just a bit!
But yes nerdfest... I do indeed worship the artistic ground you walk on. Well, I would... if your feet actually touched the ground when you walked. Unfortunately you're so full of HOT AIR that you float just a bit!
Float huh?
Excellent!
That means he can actually leave that god forsaken island of his
That's a sweet Pinewood Derby car, but I was expecting some grots hanging off of it!
Scout in my pack wrapped a piece of wood just the same size and shape as a candy bar in an old candy bar wrapper and glued it to the top of his car. It acted like a wing, and he ended up with 3rd place!
Hey Gits, great looking car you've got there. Glad to see the minis arrived in good time and condition. Don't forget to leave a review when you get the chance.
For us yokels over in the olde worlde, what's a pinewood derby? When you first mentioned scouts and cars I was thinking of go-karts for some reason
It's for cub scouts. Each boy gets a kit to make a little wooden car to race... then their dad's take over and it becomes a giant pissing contest to see which family has the best cars.
(did I say that?)
I'm as guilty as anyone mind you, but with me it's how the cars look rather than how fast they go. (figures, eh?)
Hits_the_spot wrote:Hey Gits, great looking car you've got there. Glad to see the minis arrived in good time and condition. Don't forget to leave a review when you get the chance.
Oh ya, and keep up the good work!
Would love to leave a review... where would you like it? The web site (which I assume will be moving soon), your dakka blog, my dakka blog? Take your pick, any or all!
Gitsplitta wrote:That's a sweet car. Don't think the rules of our district would allow that... Our regs are really restrictive and getting more-so every year.
That really stinks, For us, as long as its in the weight limits, and is from the same block of wood as the kit, anything goes!
Heh, when I was a kid I made a silver corvette with lead cast into holes drilled into the underside for weight. It was awesome. I took second place and it is still the only trophy I have ever won.
My first car (they used the thin wheels back then) looked like the old fashioned race car that Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was made out of (see the first couple of minutes of the movie). However, it was anything but fancy... just decorated with marker. Also took second. The only trophy I ever won that I gave a damn about.
i remember that the kid who got first place got DQ'd for paying someone to build his car, which ended up looking like a dragracer.. he cried and it was quite entertaining
Hey Gits, if ou could leave the review on the site that would be great. Don't worry about doing indivual ones. The site address will be changing soon but the site itself wont be changing. Well there will be some new graphics.
No idea Haz, you'll have to ask Hits. They aren't "normal" GW... not the tech priest and the servitor anyway. They're metal but with extremely fine and delicate detail. I'm not saying they aren't GW... just that they're outside of what I consider the usual standards of production.
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Update:
I'm hopelessly bogged down in the Pinewood Derby stuff, so I apologize for no substantive updates. Got a large chunk of the event dumped in my lap at the last minute and so far it's NOT going well. Can't get Thing 2's car to track straight & can't find the screws to put the track together. Uugh. How I would love just to sit and paint my minis....
Ah right. So you have potential for crashes and non-finishers and all sorts of interesting stuff going on. Something like a ramp with a finish line five feet away (or whatever). Sounds fun.
M0rdain, I remember making those too. As a kid I always thought that if I wound the wheels in opposite directions the car should be super fast in an East-West direction as it would stay on the spot as the world turned beneath it at 1000mph
You get a block of wood, four nails for axles and 4 tires. There is always a weight limit, but depending on what your particular Scout District's rules are beyond that... everything else is negotiable. But yes, you drop them on a 40' track and see who's goes the fastest. Not too many opportunities for crashes as the lanes are separate and nearly 100 percent will get all the way down.
Here's a short news thingie of our District's finals two years ago... my boys and I are there somewhere (not in the vid though)
Or... you can watch this!
OK, you can't. Apparently South Park is blocked from work.
Google "South Park" and "Pinewood Derby" video.... I'm sure you'll find plenty.
Gitsplitta wrote:You get a block of wood, four nails for axles and 4 tires. There is always a weight limit, but depending on what your particular Scout District's rules are beyond that... everything else is negotiable. But yes, you drop them on a 40' track and see who's goes the fastest. Not too many opportunities for crashes as the lanes are separate and nearly 100 percent will get all the way down.
Local rules typically have age classes (5-6, 7-9, 10+), an adult class, and then a "open class" were there are no rules, and trophies are given out for the quality of your Conversion rather than the speed of your car. Since dads in our area tend to work for places like Sandia and Laurence Livermore Labs developing DOD level dodads, I've seen some awesome performance from cars in the open, and truth be told, that's both where my passion for modeling, my learning of 'proper' safty skills, and my first set of stiches and scars came from.
I have to work with Thing 2 to finish his car, then build the track tonight at the house... and fix it (it really needs to be retired). Should be a late night.
Year's ago I war running my eldest's car down our old track to test it, when his car hit a bolt on the way down & launched into space. Landed on the hard floor and smashed into pieces.
Interesting Bounty... sounds like a lot of fun! Coolest thing I've ever seen was a toy jet aircraft's light-up afterburners and sounds put into a car.
Gitsplitta wrote:Interesting Bounty... sounds like a lot of fun! Coolest thing I've ever seen was a toy jet aircraft's light-up afterburners and sounds put into a car.
I remember having old solid wheels, and one guy used a micrometer at work to thin them down to where they actually cut the track as they rolled down. One dad was notorius for testing his car in model wind chamber used to test models of fighter jets. Funniest one ever was the guy who painted the un-cut block to look like a box of Pampers, and stuck half a babydoll on top like it was riding in the box.
Coolest race ever though had to be around 12 years old or so when we took them off the track, and added a couple of Estes AA rockets. We also changed it from 40' to the quarter mile. I see these commericals for radio controled cars saying " up to 200 scale miles per hour" and remember when I sent on a REAL 60 miles per hour.
You mentioned south park...Reference to the South parks episode ...where Stans pinewood car triggers a intergalactic event involving a imaginary space thief on the run after stealing a lot of space cash.
Usually this is WM job. Back to your regular schedule program.
@Bounty: Coooool..... Would have loved to see that. When I was a cub the cars still had the tall thin wheels. Now we've got the bloody huge fat slicks that are perpetually mis-cast. Real PITA to deal with, especially now that you are no longer allowed to even try and round them.
@SL: AH, my bad for pointing people to a youtube vid that I couldn't see myself so I have no idea what the content was... just that it WAS there.
My you are looking fairly dapper these days Mr 'Splitta.
And this is why we ask Dakka, rather than Jeeves.
If I'd searched on google for pinewood derny I'm guessing the first few links would be to wiki articles and I'd have clicked on one of those. And I can't see that sending me to a deleted scene from South Park involving Stan's dad swearing like a sweary thing that's just had it's gak stolen and been fethed up by something nasty in a sweary type way.
And as a bonus I still learnt what pinewood derby is all about
Solar_lion wrote:You mentioned south park...Reference to the South parks episode ...where Stans pinewood car triggers a intergalactic event involving a imaginary space thief on the run after stealing a lot of space cash.
Usually this is WM job. Back to your regular schedule program.
Gitsplitta wrote:No idea Haz, you'll have to ask Hits. They aren't "normal" GW... not the tech priest and the servitor anyway. They're metal but with extremely fine and delicate detail. I'm not saying they aren't GW... just that they're outside of what I consider the usual standards of production.
The servitor and tech priest are Forgeworld and should be resin (I have them both). Some of the skulls may possibly be metal as there were some that looked like that in the Inquisition boxes from years back.
I think you're right endtrans... they seemed awfully heavy to me at first but not that I give them a much more measured lift they are too light for metal.
Here in Canada Its called kub kar racing. I remember making one when I was in scouts. I carved it and painted it all by myself. lol It was RED go figure. It had gold lighting bolts on the sides. Looking at it now I did a really good job.
I also remember my Dad taking it to work... I thought he was showing it off
I found out later that he drilled out the center and filled it with weight, up to the Regulated limit.
Well, we finally finished Thing 2's car. Not bad looking... we'll see how it runs. Now I have to see if I can get the track put together...
In spite of re-sizing the original... it only seems to appear giant-sized... sorry mates. OH, and I should point out for the many non-US folks that the design is in support of an American football team, the Chicago Bears. Now... the Bears are really *my* team as I grew up in Chicago & both boys and their mom root for the Packers... but for some reason he got fixated on making a Bears car. Cool with me. I'm sure it'll get boo'd roundly though which will make it all the more fun IF it actually turns out to be fast. Big if...
Gitsplitta wrote:In spite of re-sizing the original... it only seems to appear giant-sized... sorry mates. OH, and I should point out for the many non-US folks that the design is in support of an American football team, the Chicago Bears. Now... the Bears are really *my* team as I grew up in Chicago & both boys and their mom root for the Packers... but for some reason he got fixated on making a Bears car. Cool with me. I'm sure it'll get boo'd roundly though which will make it all the more fun IF it actually turns out to be fast. Big if...
I then, am disappointed, because cutting a Triangle wedge out of the block, and going to town on it with a 1/2" drill bit before coating it heavily in Yellow Spray paint would have been SO MUCH COOLER!
If you care who's shirt I wear, it's Seahawks btw.
well it almost has the right colors just instead of that orange it needs to be gold (rams fan) good looking car though. and we all know the truth the rams are going to make it to the end and then choke like they normally do.
I never paint my ork vehicles red. They're bad moons dammit. Yellow and black. Stupid rule. We've made plenty of red cars... just none this year. You've seen Thing 2's... Thing 1 made his own this year & it looks vaguely like a banana.
I've been lurking for all of this pinewood talk, but Asherian Command brought me in...
As a fellow Eagle Scout, I too remember my days of pinewood derby racing.. I went to districts twice, and came in 4th my first time, and didn't do well my second time lol...
its funny, while cleaning through boxes found my car from waay back when i was in scouts, its the classic USA car painted like the flag, and with stickers all in it.. then my 5th grade woodshop car which is a more aerodinamic oscarmayer weiner mobile.. too bad it came in 2nd behind the teachers car
Yeah I have noticed the steady increase in Eagles recently but that is completely OT.
Anyway what you can do is you can put on like magnets so the cars next to it crash into each other.
I have to admit being an Eagle Scout, I'm also the Cub Master, and I sit on Eagle Board of Reviews. Love scouting, but it's getting to be more time intensive every year.
Well since all of my fellow eagle scouts are coming out of the woodwork, i must say that my pinewood derby cars were always rather...mediocre...i wish i had spent more time on them now.
Sorry SL, won't have any time to work on figures until after tomorrow. A lot of the derby got dropped into my lap at the last minute, including helping a bunch of families build their cars, fixing up the track & building a new finishing gate. I simply haven't had any time to do anything else. MW are on hold until this is over. I will say one thing... the assault marines should be pretty quick as they've all got a thin layer of graphite on 'em now.
@Reaper: Didn't even notice that. Go figure. It's all those battle reports and WIP shots... You are catching up quickly my friend. Have really been enjoying your blog!
Hey guys quick off topic question, Over here we have queen scout, is that the same thing?? (obviosly its called queens cause were commonweath) Or something completley different?
prototype_X wrote:Hey guys quick off topic question, Over here we have queen scout, is that the same thing?? (obviosly its called queens cause were commonweath) Or something completley different?
Queen's Scout is an award, much akin to our (Boy Scouts of America) Eagle Scout Award/Rank...
On topic: Gits that green is lovely, and I love the yellow in the packs. Its extremely smooth
Thanks Alf, it's only the first layer and I haven't tidy'd up the edges yet... but you get the idea where I'm going. Should be able to finish these up pretty quickly from here-on-in. Yellow, white, gold, seals, face, eyes. That should about bring them into focus.
I may have missed this, because I don't regularly comment on your blog lol, but what's with the raised disc on the shoulder pad? Is that for a mantis warriors transfer?
I was thinking the flamer was looking quite nonchalant - he looks quite relaxed next to the others, like he is sizing up a wall/nid army for spray painting/flaming - hmmm... where should I start?
Gitsplitta wrote:Thanks Alf, it's only the first layer and I haven't tidy'd up the edges yet... but you get the idea where I'm going. Should be able to finish these up pretty quickly from here-on-in. Yellow, white, gold, seals, face, eyes. That should about bring them into focus.
Soo just a question about the green.
I'm assuming you are doing Base colour, Airbrush highlight, then lowlight/shape with ink/wash?
Once I get my base coating out of the way I will be trying somehthing very similar with my Aurora Chapter
Automatically Appended Next Post: LOL and BTW the Cub Cars bring me way way back! I'm pretty sure I have my 1st place car from when I was a young buck kicking around somewhere still.
I think it may be cheating by todays standards tho. we were allowed a driver, Mine was made of machined steel
endtransmission wrote:They re looking good (as usual); though the front/middle one looks like he's having a Darth Vader moment
*Noooooooooo!*
My guess is he's the one clumsy/klutzy one in the group - Always forgetting his ammo, drops the grenade and throws the pin, always overheats his plasma weapons, you know the one. And he's crying as he thinks he's going to get left behind again, because he just can't get his damn jet-pack on properly.
Nice the guys look good! But the face of the sarge (I think he is) needs painting. I geuss you still havent had chance yet or somthing. Btw where could I find a RT flamer likie that one? (just wandering).
Alfndrate wrote:I may have missed this, because I don't regularly comment on your blog lol, but what's with the raised disc on the shoulder pad? Is that for a mantis warriors transfer?
No transfer, I hand-paint the symbol. The disk just helps me get the circular logo straight & makes it pop a bit.
bigfish wrote:Wow, they are looking sweet, really like the one with the flamer very cool indeed
Thanks bigfish!
endtransmission wrote:They re looking good (as usual); though the front/middle one looks like he's having a Darth Vader moment
*Noooooooooo!*
*chuckle* Yeah, kinda does...
Alfndrate wrote:
endtransmission wrote:They re looking good (as usual); though the front/middle one looks like he's having a Darth Vader moment
*Noooooooooo!*
That one is based on the Vampire Counts model, Kondrad Von Carstein if I'm not mistaken.
If it is it's news to me... never heard of Kondrad Von Carstein. Just seemed like a pretty obvious pose to me.
Johnny-Crass wrote:Top notch as always Gits
Thanks Johnny.
Cutthroatcure wrote:Do you think they will be harder to see now that they are closer to the ground?
They aren't closer to the ground yet, still on their original bases. Ask wyomingfox... he's was taking great delight in shooting the hell out of them because the guys were so high off the ground I couldn't hide them anywhere.
Arakasi wrote:I was thinking the flamer was looking quite nonchalant - he looks quite relaxed next to the others, like he is sizing up a wall/nid army for spray painting/flaming - hmmm... where should I start?
My flamer guys are always a bit "apart" from the rest of the squad. Takes a special mind set to burn people alive and at close range.
logg_frogg wrote:Soo just a question about the green. I'm assuming you are doing Base colour, Airbrush highlight, then lowlight/shape with ink/wash?
Close logg_frogg: airbrush base color, then shadows, then 2 or 3 highlights, then a thraka green wash making sure not to let it settle into pockets, then line the crevices with the same to darken them up even more.
LOL and BTW the Cub Cars bring me way way back! I'm pretty sure I have my 1st place car from when I was a young buck kicking around somewhere still. I think it may be cheating by todays standards tho. we were allowed a driver, Mine was made of machined steel
Pretty slick... ours are no where near that sophisticated.
SelvaggioSaky wrote:Wow Git, your painting skills are killer. Love the squad so far, great poses too, def the right direction I say!
Thank you Selvaggio, hopefully the rest will not disappoint either.
monkeytroll wrote:My guess is he's the one clumsy/klutzy one in the group - Always forgetting his ammo, drops the grenade and throws the pin, always overheats his plasma weapons, you know the one. And he's crying as he thinks he's going to get left behind again, because he just can't get his damn jet-pack on properly.
A+ mate...
HAZZER wrote:Nice the guys look good! But the face of the sarge (I think he is) needs painting. I geuss you still havent had chance yet or somthing. Btw where could I find a RT flamer likie that one? (just wandering).
If you would have read my post answering YOUR post just below the picture... you would have noticed that I listed the face as still needing painting, along with a number of other things. I might have an extra flamer, I'll check... or you can get one that's actually RT looking only slightly cooler from FW.
the is Konrad von Carstein. the arm position are very similar. In reality the pose is really disadvantageous as you open up your entire body. but then again in reality we are just painting plastic/resin/metal figures and play with them. we think where awesome everybody else thinks where weird
polari wrote:Uh oh gits STC_logisengine is catchin up to this blog with his alpha legion on exalts :p
That's great! Since I know that I don't have a monopoly on cool ideas it's nice to see other dakkanaughts getting their due.
fatty wrote:
the is Konrad von Carstein. the arm position are very similar. In reality the pose is really disadvantageous as you open up your entire body. but then again in reality we are just painting plastic/resin/metal figures and play with them. we think where awesome everybody else thinks where weird
Agreed. Don't know about Konrad there but my idea was to pose my marine in a moment of adrenalin-filled exultation after slicing and dicing some opponent up for the Emperor. I have some other two-stick ideas for poses that are more combat ready.
Arakasi wrote:I was thinking the flamer was looking quite nonchalant - he looks quite relaxed next to the others, like he is sizing up a wall/nid army for spray painting/flaming - hmmm... where should I start?
My flamer guys are always a bit "apart" from the rest of the squad. Takes a special mind set to burn people alive and at close range.
"I love the smell of Promethium in the morning.
Smells like ... Victory."
Gits, Gits, Gits, the assault squad looks awesome so far! I really like the way they all fit together, you've made a very dynamic squad with your imaginative posing! and those CH packs are probably nicer than the GW ones imo, great job, i look forward as usual to seeing more paint on them all!
I think I see two guys who are going to make it very hard to hide the squad. I thought you were going to knock down the height on the rocks on your bases?
As for the swordfighting pose: some Italian and Spanish fencing schools used similar poses, though these were only for one-on-one duelling, for obvious reasons
Italian huh?? Hmmmm. Perhaps the crossed swords are for cutting the perfect pizza slice!
Well, I'm really pushing to get the squad done by tomorrow night. I'm close. Just the chapter insignia and re-basing to go. Not the best eyes I've ever done. Light in the studio is very poor at the moment so it's like painting with Heizenberg's Uncertainty Principle in full effect... I can either see where the brush is or see where it's going, but not both at the same time. It'll have to do though, I need to start making progress as with the latest re-write of my Adepticon list I have a lot of painting to do.
Looking great Gits, I love your pale green! and boy can you highlight it well! it really looks lovely and very pleasing to the eye! the squad with the bit more work looks simply stunning , it's probably my favorite squad you've done now!
Thanks nerdfest! The edge highlights are something I haven't done before with my MW, I usually just let the airbrushed blending stand as is. Thought I'd experiment with this squad though. Certainly makes them pop.
Looking very nice Git's the edge highlights do make a big difference.
I'm currently having to do a re-write for a 2500 point tournament in July. Chaos just wont cut it so I'm trying to find the smallest model count army possible that I might be able to afford and paint in time.
grey knight termiinator army? space wolf terminator army? or deathwing. those are the 3 cheapest armies around now a day's or so i am told. for 130 pound you can get 1500 points of deathwing so i guess 2500 points would turn up at say 200 pound. and if you use chaos terminators you can use them later on in your chaos army and you can save some money with the terminators you already have.
and Git i didn't even noticed the edge highlight at first nicely done
Thanks Gir. I think you can do GKs in less models than any other army & still be somewhat viable. Paladins of course... Storm Ravens, characters, apothecaries. Couple of guys at my FLGS were having a competition to see how few minis they could get & still have a functional army. I think the winner had something like 13 at (I think) 2k.
As a fan of bionics I think the one power-sword built into the arm is really cool. It gives a lot of personality. I have to agree with everyone and say the highlights really make them stand out, especially on the chainswords to my eye.
Though I'm now curious what the guy with the built in power-sword is thinking about the guy with the bionic arm that still has a hand.
Chemical Cutthroat wrote:Though I'm now curious what the guy with the built in power-sword is thinking about the guy with the bionic arm that still has a hand.
Since we're hypothesizing... There are actually three bionic arms in the squad; one ends in a hand, one in a chainsword and the last in a power sword. I assume they are all issued with hands when their bionics are installed as there are far too many activities that would require two hands for a marine to be useful in non-combat situations for them not to have them (if such a prosthetic were possible). I figure that they're also given access to interchangeable combat attachments if they prefer. So a regular marine could either hold a chainsword with his bionic hand, or have a fixed one available to replace the hand during combat situations. Same goes for the sergeant, but he has access to better equipment. So how they choose to integrate their weapons into their bionic limbs is a matter of personal preference.
As to your question... I'm assuming he would be curious as to why that marine chose NOT to field the integrated chainsword and instead chose to carry his weapon like normal. Perhaps he (the bare-headed marine) is a new amputee and still coming to grips with the loss of his limb, thus has a bias towards a "natural configuration" rather than a purely mechanical one.
I reserve the right to experiment with my figs & not paint the entire army exactly the same way. My green has evolved quite a bit over time. Painting has shifted from wet blending to airbrushing, now I'm adding edge highlights. When a project takes years... you fiddle.
Been driven by the need to do things quickly. I like wet blending, still think my best figures were done this way, it's just too slow. Generally, I don't think that either wet blended or airbrushed mini's need edge highlights.... but I thought I'd play with it just for something new.
Your edge highlights are a bit too sharp. A three step transition usually looks more visually appealing. My usual recipe: First highlight all edges (1:3 highlight/base). Next highlight those edges where light would strike at a 1:1. This highlight should be 1/2 as thin as the first. Last is a pure highlight on only part of edge near the vertices (again 1/2 as thin as the last).
I may go in and try to thin some of the thicker areas out, but I don't have the time for a multi-step process. On the tabletop the rough nature of the lining doesn't show.
OK, last update for a bit as I'm going to take a few days off from painting. It's a good one though. Assault squad is finally done!
Really feel good about this as it always felt kind of weird having a marine army with no assault capability. Granted this isn't much... but it's a start. I did go in and clean up and/or soften a lot of the edge highlights... hopefully this will be less objectionable than the last iteration.
@Haz: Actually the sergeant is the guy with the power sword. I may eventually make a damaged helmet and place it on the ground in front of they guy with two weapons, just for added interest.
@TaWaaagh: I like your attitude! "Gitsplitta: Always 1-0!"
@SL: Yeah... I was a bit apprehensive at first. I mean I've done edge highlighting quite a bit here and there, but not on my regular marines. I suppose it's a bit crude... but you can't argue with the results when you see them on the table top, they just stand out a little bit more. The trick then, is to make them look decent dakka-sized while still having the desired table-view effect. Perhaps I'll be able to refine my technique a bit with the next squad.
@Styro: Thanks mate!
@rodgers37: Had fun with the poses. As you can see from the last pic to this one the basing changed quite a bit on a couple of them, but I think I still maintained the character of the poses... they're just leaping off of shorter piles of rocks!
@Pyriel-: Thanks my friend, I appreciate that greatly.
As to what's next:
"And now for something completely different... two inches to the left of a space marine's naughty bits."
Actually not all that different. I'm going to do two GMS trade marines... a chaplain for Gathering Storm, and an assault marine for Knightly. I owe GS big time for a very generous "trade" of a bunch of tyranids for Thing 2 for a couple of marines and some bits. I'm looking forward to the chaplain as it'll help me work on my black which will facilitate a future project. Knightly is actually making me an apothecary that I intend to use at Adepticon, so his marine can be considered work on my force for the tournament. I'll also be building and painting a Mk 1 Vindicator. Should be fun!
Assault Squad turned out really nicely, Gits! I agree the edge highlights add a lot of pop. Excited to see your upcoming GMS marines and the vindi in due time.
@graven: Yes there will be hazard stripes... Somewhere. I don't think the old models came with the huge siege shield like the new ones do... will have to look at the kit. I do mike those CH jump packs. Best part of doing a Badab era assault unit if you ask me.
@M0rdian: Vindis have been part of my long-term plan for this army. It's always been my intention to make the Badab era version a mechanized force, and I've lost track of thr razorbacks, vindis and preds lying around waiting to be painted.
@Matt: Mixed-race parentage perhaps? I don't worry much about the whole "all marines end up looking the same" thing.
Thanks SL, just rolled in. I'm a bit glassy eyed. Wife got a pizza for dinner, bless her. Managed to form a novel idea for how I'm going to tackle painting GS's chappy. That's more than I had a week ago. Been vegging out in front of the tube with they boys... 'bout all I'm good for at the moment.
Gitsplitta wrote:Thanks SL, just rolled in. I'm a bit glassy eyed. Wife got a pizza for dinner, bless her. Managed to form a novel idea for how I'm going to tackle painting GS's chappy. That's more than I had a week ago. Been vegging out in front of the tube with they boys... 'bout all I'm good for at the moment.
Thats ok It happens to 99% of us.
The other 1% consists of PDH and Baiyuan!
Gitsplitta wrote:Thanks SL, just rolled in. I'm a bit glassy eyed. Wife got a pizza for dinner, bless her. Managed to form a novel idea for how I'm going to tackle painting GS's chappy. That's more than I had a week ago. Been vegging out in front of the tube with they boys... 'bout all I'm good for at the moment.
Thats ok It happens to 99% of us.
The other 1% consists of PDH and Baiyuan!
Just got back from a great vacation with the family down at Disney World. Rode the Star Wars ride and was the "rebel spy" (thus the pin) & had dinner the last night at a great Moroccan restaurant... thus the fez. I call this creation... "Fez with bad-*ss Mickey". I intend for it to be part of my 40k tournament kit from now on.
I intended to do the airbrushing on the chappy tonight, but alas, can not find the primer I was going to use... will have to pick some up tomorrow from my FLGS over lunch.
Yep! Second time we rode it Thing 1 was the spy... what'r the odds?
Favorites:
Jiko restaurant at the Animal Kingdom Lodge (the lodge itself is spectacular).
Aerosmith's Rockin' Roller Coaster.
Fireworks at the Magic Kingdom (MK at night is also spectacular).
The "Song of the South" themed water flume ride (because it was long, fun & non-challenging).
The virtual shooting gallery in the "Toy Story Mania" ride.
"Soarin'"... because any VR ride that has you stretching your toes down to skim water that you KNOW isn't there... is doing something right.
"Century of Progress" show/ride thingie. Made for the 1969 world's fair... and it's still cool. Even the kids thought so. Narrated by Henry Fonda no less.
Seeing Thing 2 completely obliterate his "fear of heights"... That train has left the station!
Spending a week with my family with no work and no 40k. Think I'm ready to get back to both now.
Oh, it's just part of the show. The computer that runs the ride randomly picks one of the passengers in the shuttle to be the "rebel spy" which is what drives the action (i.e. the Empire is looking for you & the shuttle is trying to escape). As the spy... you just sit there and enjoy the ride like everyone else. It was a good excuse to buy a neat jedi Mickey pin though.
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OH, forgot your question... something shines a light on your head or in your face early on in the ride sequence, depending on the animation sequence you get. I didn't even realize I was the spy when I got picked as a blue light came down from above (supposed to be Vader singling me out with the force). I just saw other people pointing to me after the ride was over and commenting that "that guy was the spy".
I can really rember what I did when I when to flordia about 4-5 years ago. I like the SW ride, there was a perade, going in early to go on extra rides! Typhone Lagoon water park I loved also!
Well, I found a used Vindi that I'd gotten a while ago and started sorting out all the bits. I think I also have one that's NIB. While I do love rescuing old models it might be nice to work with a new model. Both sets are for the same (Mk. 1) vindi. The used one is a little beat up but I believe is complete and serviceable.
Nice idea Matt, but I only have time for one as the deadline for Adepticon is fast approaching. They'll both work... I'm just curious about what most people would rather see... the resurrection of a used model or the construction of a "new" (unbuilt) one.
Good news is I picked up the primer I need, so I hope to have something to show for it before bed time.
Build the NIB one first becuase it will be quicker then do a restration! Or restore the old one and build the other new one after the deadline as a teat?
Started the painting on the chappy. Black primer, dark-med grey highlighting followed by a dark green final highlight (very light) to give him a hint of green to match the chapter, then washed with black and lined in black. Just started work on the details... we'll see where things go from here but I'm hoping it'll come together pretty quick. Excited about finding a primer that works with my airbrush... very nice indeed.
Doesn't he need the Crux Terminus thing? Or are you not going with that for a fluff idea, MW so not had access to new weaponry for a while, etc. (although they are relics, so you'd think they keep them). nice kit bash though!
@IM: Didn't have a crux. Oops.... yes... fluff reasons, that's it. TBH I've never liked the standard crux, so when making this chappy I was going at it from the perspective of something I'd like to have for myself. I can modify the weapon if GS wants me to, but I just love that FW axe.
@Vit: Vallejo Surface Primer. Doesn't say that it's specifically an airbrush primer but it can be loaded directly into an airbrush with no problems what-so-ever. Leaves a nice thin coat that doesn't cover up the details.
@HAZ: It'll be interesting to see what happens to the highlight once the rest of the details get brought up. I'm guessing it'll disappear a bit, but I won't know for sure until the fig's near finished. Then I have to decide how to handle the edge highlights... all in grey or do I add touches of green here and there. Hoping to get most of the details finished this evening.
It's "Vallejo Surface Primer", comes in black, white, a couple of shades of grey and a number of other colors that look military in nature. Apparently it's flying off the shelves at my FLGS. I have small bottles of black and white, and larger bottles of dark grey and white again. Since I mostly prime with white, that works for me. It works right out of the bottle & lays down a fine, smooth coat of primer without covering up details. Nice stuff. The larger bottles cost around $8 U.S. I'm guessing they'll prime as much as your standard aerosol can.
Yes, the green is on already and yes, it is very subtle.
Glad everyone likes it, especially you GS.
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Made some good progress tonight. Just the axe, wings, insignia and base left to do. Unfortunately those are all pretty tall orders... especially the axe and the wings. No idea how I'm going to handle the axe blade yet... obviously can't airbrush it. Guess I'll sleep on it. I must admit I'm pretty pleased with it so far.
I did this gold a little differently than normal. I usually just paint a couple of shades and cover it with sepia wash... which works fine, but for some reason I decided to use a variety of shades to blend it through this time. Still looks fine, and perhaps a bit better on the larger areas around the jump pack. I did add sepia wash to the gold areas on the staff... you can see it's a bit darker and redder than the other areas.
I think I know how I'm going to approach the axe and wings now... just hope I can pull it off.
I can see the green now. It is incredibly subtle, but it looks good. I'm sure once everything together it'll provide a nice trick of the light to give the model that little extra.
@SL: Ask and ye shall receive. Looks like I need to sharpen up the lines where the skull cap meets the skull. Over lunch I need to go out and get a better lamp... my main lamp died and I've been limping along with the little desk lamp from Thing 1's room. Not a very good substitute. Oh, and I lost a lens out of my glasses on vacation which also doesn't help. So... consider this a paint job by someone half-blind.
@CaptainS: Have another idea for the weapon that won't need airbrushing. Hopefully my wet blending skills aren't too out of trim.
@ChemCutt: Thanks! It really does depend on the light and the angle you look at the figure from, which is exactly what I was aiming for.
@Cutthroatcure: Yes, sepia wash, then a light black wash in the eye sockets and nose of the helmet. On the big skull on his shoulder I just used sepia, though the darker areas were actually painted darker to begin with.
It's worth noting that I did just try to fix the messy areas at the top of the face plate and I can't even *see* them IRL (not even with my higher-powered optivisor). God I hate getting old...
GS: Glad you like it. It won't be one of my standard paint jobs for a power weapon... I hope you like it still but it's going to be in the very experimental range, and like so many other things with this figure... subtle. Painting power weapons with an AB is insanely easy. Painting them without is something I never mastered... which is why I'm taking this in a bit different direction.
@ChemCutt: I didn't have any chaplains either... just made this one out of bits... though the helmet and pad were special orders (and I snagged the axe off e-bay a while ago). I've almost gotten to where I'd rather build my own representations of characters than actually use the real figures. I need to make a Tycho for Adepticon and I'm seriously considering just building it myself from scratch.
Yep... that it (the axe handle) does. I did my dakka avatar figure the same way, actually wrapping a small chain around the staff of his grabba-stick in order to get the same effect. Looks cool in both instances.
wowzerz. I've seen your army in the gallery and loved it, nice to see some WIP shots! The dual-chainsword marine is great, I totally saw the rage boiling out of him. I guess the height thing would cause problems in actual play but those big rock base sure look great. Thanks for the inspiration!
@Farsight: Thanks! Love to see a new face on the blog!
@Scambone: My pleasure Scambone, and thanks for commenting. More to come... actually directly to the point...
Can't let any moss grow under my feet, so as I await the settlement of the last detail on the chappy, I did the build for Knightley's assault marine. He wanted something with 2 CCWs, so I cranked up another double chainsword marine (they just look so impressive). The aim of this pose was to catch him at that moment in time just before he leaps to the attack. One sword is up for defense and as an obvious attention getter, the other is somewhat "hidden" down low so his attacking stroke is harder to detect and counter. So the slight crouch and lean forward is specific to that instant just before he dives into action. Hope you guys like it!
@Selvaggio: Thanks mate! Gotta keep crankin' em out... at least until Adepticon, then I can take a break.
@Haz: Thank you Haz!
@GS: Glad you do. I've been milling that over and I do think I'll do some edge highlighting on him. It makes such a huge difference at tabletop viewing distance it's hard to pass up. Like the rest, I think I'll do it a bit more subtly... rather than highlighting all the edges and seems, just to those hard up towards the light. I build the Mantis wings this morning too. It's only my second time using them so I'm still learning how best to assemble them. Think I had an epiphany that will help in this and future projects.
@WM: Yeah, know what you mean. Another big issue us that no modern heads can be put in the "looking up" position because of the neck arrangement and the flat bottom helmets. With this assault marine's leaning forward position, I had to go to an older head which doesn't have a neck, just a round helmet bottom... in order to get the angle on the helmet that would match the rest of the figure.
Going to touch up the airbrushing on the assault marine a bit, he needs to be darker in shade from underneath. Then I'll get his lining done. Have to paint the wings for the chappy. That will present some challenges as I don't know where my transparent wing designs are (i.e. the plastic sheets with the wing vein designs printed on them). Should be a lot of airbrushing action today followed by some mind-numbingly boring brush and pen work (lining, etc.).
I wish I had the time this weekend to paint, but I a currently doing a drug study to raise some extra funds...I totally agree with keeping on top of painting as not to fall behind.
I like the finished chappy, seems like an epic piece for your current force!
Nice! Yeah, I have taken to doing subtle hard-edging on black, and it does make a huge difference!
I am still to get to the assembling stage of the MW parts I received. Actually, I have some spare time now, I may start painting the parts. I'll be pinning the arms and jump-pack!
GS: Here's a shot of how I'm going to fit the wings on your chappy. I actually filed away the veins on the lower wing just where the upper wing would overlap so the two would fit fight together. Also clipped off the pivot point on the lower wings for the same reason. Final adjustment was to clip the pivot point off at an angle so it fits snugly up against the body of the sanguinary pack. This should just look like the pivot disappears into the pack as opposed to something being cut up.
@CapitainSol: Yeah, I see some of these poses in my head... where' they're quite natural & fluid with the action, then I have to interpret them within the limitations of the bits and my ability to modify them... which doesn't always come out as natural as the image in my head. Putting them in the right context though usually squares things away quite nicely. I actually really like the tension, right before action. It's where all the psychology and mind games in a fight happen. Ice's fiction about his Ice Angels does that well. Most of my little stories don't involve action at all, but they do involve tension and conflict. I think this comes out in a lot of my figures... either in the tense moments before action... or in the first few moments of an action (leaping, etc.). Two-stick gives some interesting options for developing the figure's narrative that you don't usually get in a 40k figure.
@Haz: Thanks Haz, but that bit of brilliance was really due to BLACKHAND, and was the "modern" MW helmets you see me use on occasion. I'm just trying to figure out how best to put the pieces together.
Well, airbrushing is done. Expect some more pics (of both projects) later this afternoon (CST).
All done. Brother Taki, Chaplain of the Mantis Warriors.
Decided to do the edge highlights in green for the most part, and leave the inside of the wings in shades of grey. The wings, as with the axe are in "powered down" mode, thus are not at the full brightness of normal powered operation, as it's clear Taki is taking a moment to assess the situation and issue orders. The intense lights of my light box make the edge highlights look *really* green. IRL the effect is more subtle. It does turn up the volume of the green ever so slightly though, which is an effect I like quite a bit.
I'll be honest, wish I was keeping this one. Hope it meets with approval, especially from Gathering Storm.
Wow! That marine looks fantastic Gits! The simple grayscale effect on the wings is ace! And the green edging to the armour really makes the model pop! Stellar work as always, the piece will be used as a study on how to improve my own painting.
Glad you like him GS... been a long time waiting, I know. I'll get him out to you as soon as I can find your addy... *shuffles papers*... I'll make sure I pack him really well so he arrives in a single piece.
I said it in the GMS thread and I'll say it here too - very nice work! I do believe you are getting better *and* faster (or at least it seems that way to me!)
Thanks guys. I'm pretty happy with it. Trying out something new on the assault marine. Nothing big, just a different way to do the lining... we'll see how it works.
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OK, this is it for the night... green is basically done with some little touch-ups later on. Starting on the other colors now. Should make some good progress tomorrow.
Those greens are looking really good and that chappy turned out awesome. I really like that you painted his bolt pistol in the bone colors. Adds some fun pop to that side of the mini which balances well opposite the power axe. Great stuff, Gits!
Well, the axe almost got a bone blade for it's part... but I decided a little more natural look would be better. Part of the haft is bone colored though in order to balance out the figure. We'll see how things go today, I could get close to finishing.
@Reaper: Thanks Reaper... and I agree whole-heartedly on the two-sword. Very fun/impressive look.
@Cutthroatcure: Thank you! I think they look alright. The certainly give the figure some presence.
Well, the assault marine is essentially done. However, I don't like the plainness of his right shoulder pad as that side of the figure lacks focal interest. I have a couple of ideas, but I think I'm going to sleep on in and finish up tomorrow night. Considering the spectacular figure Knightley is sending me it just seems a bit too plain... but I can't complain about the paint job overall... just not quite special enough yet. I think I'm going to steal something from a figure of Yggsdrasil's that is one of my favorites... a plague marine believe it or not. (No, there will be no oozing sores involved).
Now that you draw attention to it, I'm starting to wonder whether the shoulder pad would even rotate that far - it looks a bit like the arm has been put on upside down! Maybe next time try keeping the top of the shoulder pad near the top of the shoulder and "see where it goes" - assuming you didn't try that anyway... Don't know... excellent paint job and pose otherwise!
Jimsolo wrote:If you don't mind me asking, what did you use to do the lettering on his shoulderpad?
Micron pen.
Knightley wrote:Looking awesome Gits, can't wait to see what you do to make him special
Me neither!
Arakasi wrote:Now that you draw attention to it, I'm starting to wonder whether the shoulder pad would even rotate that far - it looks a bit like the arm has been put on upside down! Maybe next time try keeping the top of the shoulder pad near the top of the shoulder and "see where it goes" - assuming you didn't try that anyway... Don't know... excellent paint job and pose otherwise!
Actually, it will. Remember the figure is bending forward significantly so the rotation of the shoulder is within the norm. It's a good point Arakasi, but I try to make sure a body can physically move in the way I depict before I do it. Think I'll spend some time today browsing the gallery looking for "second opinions" before I make my final decision on what to do with the pad.
I wasn't suggesting the "arm" couldn't rotate that far - that's fine - just whether the pad would follow it to that extent. I'd imagine it would be still more upright, either flared out more (similar to the other side, but more so...) or maybe rotate to face the front more - not sure if I am explaining that well or not...
Even though I can't find a better pic at short notice, you will be hard pressed to find one where the shoulder pad looks upside down.... I'll continue to look
Closest on a quick Google-fail - this one angles in forward as per my second suggestion - but still isn't as extreme as yours...
LOL! All those are blocked from work. But I get your point, the shoulder pad wouldn't necessarily stay centered on the arm when the arm rotated back that far, the arm would float a bit within the context of the pad. You may well be right... though I'd never limit what I model based on what GW has modeled previously... neither would you eh?
I don't think you could get the arm back that far without tipping the pad upside-down, even if you rotated the arm within the shoulder to it's maximum extent. And as someone who has spent many years fighting in armor... you don't want your armor to be that restrictive or it'll seriously interfere with your ability to fight. Something an assault marine would never put up with. We know the shoulder pads can rotate up and forward to a nearly vertical position and flare out quite a bit (based on GW models). Given that precedent, I don't think there's any reason to believe a pad couldn't rotate backwards through the full range of motion as well.
That being said, shifting the arm within the pad would result in the bad being more forward than down in relation to the plane of the marine's body, which might look more natural. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can do that at this point without seriously damaging the figure... something I don't want to do.
Not suggesting SM armour is restrictive I think it's that exact precedent that makes me think it would follow that precedent *instead* of rotating backwards.
I didn't notice it the first time, so as I said, it's not seriously detracting from your most excellent work. I definitely would not suggest you do anything that might jeopardise the current figure either! Just something to note for next time - which may or may not pan out in any case...
Nope... your comments are very cogent and very much appreciated my friend. No worries there. I'll take a look at those links when I get home to see if there's a "chapter approved" method of modeling something like this, might give me other ideas that will work even better!
In the nonce... I'll work within the physical constraints of the existing figure. One problem I think I bring upon my self is that the vast majority of marines I do use the older armor styles where there is no edging on the pad, thus I'm not used to using the edging as a way of defining the figure. Nor am I used to seeing a blank shoulder pad because the pad that doesn't have the chapter badge has always got campaign studs on it. So I'm not sure if there's really a problem or if it's more my perception of a problem because of all the empty space and uniformity of color. You'll remember that when I do my "modern" Mantis Warriors I put a mon on the opposite shoulder pad... this is in large part, to address the same issue.
That being said... I wanted to make something spiffy for Knightley, and this isn't quite there yet.
OH snap! No wonder he looks like he's missing something! I forgot to add the ornamental spikey bits on his arms and legs! OK, that's easy enough to fix. While that won't address the shoulder issue, it will make him look more like a mantis warrior.
Does anyone have any old chainswords they want to get rid of?? I'm running out of blades. Don't care on condition, don't care on style... I just needs swords I can cut the teeth off of. Can pay $ (paypal) or maybe trade something marine, ork or very old eldar.
Gitsplitta wrote:Does anyone have any old chainswords they want to get rid of?? I'm running out of blades. Don't care on condition, don't care on style... I just needs swords I can cut the teeth off of. Can pay $ (paypal) or maybe trade something marine, ork or very old eldar.
I'll send you some. I have some from specific chapters that I won't use.
Woah. New shoulder pad added so much to this mini!! That looks great, Gits. Oh, if only Yggs was around to see he's still such an inspiration. Now I kind of want to see that same pattern on the right shoulder placed on the left knee pad, but that maybe asking too much Great stuff, Gits!
Actually the boys have been really good, they just haven't been into 40k lately. That's fine with me... it's always been optional, not a mandatory activity. And if they get out of it all-together (which I doubt), I've got myself brand-new necron and tryanid armies!!
Next up... the Vindicator! I pulled out my Mk-1 Vindi... still sitting quietly on it's sprues in the box, just like it did when it was brand new years ago. Metal conversion parts in a little blister pack and all. 3 out of the next 4 nights are completely shot... so I'll count myself as making very good progress if I can get the various Vindi parts cleaned up and ready for painting. Now that I'm much more comfortable with my airbrush, I'm hoping the actual painting will go quickly.
Progress to show. I don't usually do "parts" pictures as I don't feel they really accomplish much, however... I thought that some of the younger folks out there might not have had the opportunity to see a full parts spread for a Mk-1 Vindi. So here you are.
Just loving the spray primer out of my airbrush, easy to use and much more economical than an aerosol can.
Only real modification is to the hatch. Didn't want to have to paint the gunner, so I modified a couple of the old hatch mounted bolters into a twin-linked thingie and put a solid hatch on rather than the gunner/commander. Painting might commence tomorrow... late. Probably won't get a lot done, but perhaps get a good start on a few of the pieces.
Well, I'm doing this differently than normal. Going to take my que from Knightley and paint each piece separately, then assemble them. If I guess correctly, it should greatly speed up the painting process (since I need to use zenithal lighting so it matches the other vehicles).
I'm trying to minimize the amount of taping I have to do in favor of free-hand blending, which is much faster.
Remember to mask off the obivious areas that will need to be glued together. I did the "pieces" painting with one of my SR. and had to go back a scrape off the sections I want to glue together in order to get a good bond. Learn as i go exercise!
See above. Though there are techniques for adhering two painted surfaces together... glue rivets and such. I'm not too worried about it. If I'm careful, I should be able to leave things unpainted that need to stay that way, and compensate for those things that get painted yet still need gluing. Even so, I think painting will go a lot faster this way.
Though, I've glued on painted pieces in the past with no bonding problems. The major elements I can see needing a clean bond, but with the little bits I don't think it'll matter all that much.
I like doing it. I find it easier when doing different colors and since my AB technique is not that advanced, it helps keep things clean. That said I haven't had good luck with masking and blocking while air brushing. ( A third hand would help).
You have a good touch with your AB and the skill .. no worries. I'm sure the result will speak for it'self.
Solar_lion wrote:Remember to mask off the obivious areas that will need to be glued together. I did the "pieces" painting with one of my SR. and had to go back a scrape off the sections I want to glue together in order to get a good bond. Learn as i go exercise!
My 2 cents
SL
Yep, painted my first model that way, an old 2nd edition preditor...piece by piece. Then glued it all together and watched as tracks fell off . I paint very little separately now adays. Those parts I do, I usuall go back and sand off the connecting points with a router.
If this helps, what I have found with painting parts then gluing is that pinning really does help when it comes to being robust, for the vehicles I some times scrape off paint on contact points so the plastic glue will melt properly.
Oh and I also have an old school vindi in my DA army, I'm considering getting it out and repainting it to my current army (so I can have 3 Vinidi's)
Damn you Gits, now I'm going to go and have to find it....
Well, perhaps that's part of the problem. I almost never use plastic melting glue. Superglue seems to be pretty versatile and penetrate paint (especially unvarnished paint) pretty well. However... I'll be cautions. You guys will know how things are working before the weekend is over.
