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Oh, that's a nice chaplain.

Hmmmm, his pose makes him look as though hes trying to explain something to a particularly stubborn Karen. The previous Termi Chaplain was far better.

Looks more like he’s just backhanded some heretic with his Crozius to me.

I do see where you’re coming from though!

No previews that day?

zamerion wrote:
No previews that day?

If there are, they wouldn't have announced them yet. We might get an announce on the 17th preview show.

... Am I only one that wonders why that chaplain has Crux Terminatus on both of its shoulders?

I don't understand the shoulder pad situation... he's got two Crux Terminatus and no spot for chapter matkings.

Honestly prefer the store exclusive version, although this one has a nicer body, since it's not smothered in skull scrolls.

The teeth on this guy seem a bit goofy. Sometimes it looks good, other times its a bit too derp

Sotahullu wrote:
... Am I only one that wonders why that chaplain has Crux Terminatus on both of its shoulders?

Armour Of Extra Protectiness?

They've been doing a great job on their terminator sculpts recently with the exception of that hideous librarian mini.

The two crux terminatuses (i?) does bother me though.

x2 crux terminatus?

That is to say, an extra terminatus?

One might just abbreviate that to Exterminatus...


... I'll see myself out, thank you

 Irbis wrote:
Oh boy, time for excuse #576893 from FUD crowd loudly whinging about sQaTtInGg!one!1!! trying to explain why this model totally doesn't count as squatmarine release, just like 84 previous squatmarine ones in last 4 years totally didn't count, and how they will be sQaTtEd!one!1!! any day soon

I mean, we haven't seen a first-born marine release that wasn't a special release so calm down. It's a terminator and it's not a tactical marine that are the ones folks are complaining about getting squatted.

Sotahullu wrote:
... Am I only one that wonders why that chaplain has Crux Terminatus on both of its shoulders?

I’ll be replacing one with a Deathwatch pad anyway, but it is mildly annoying.

Its a very strange terminator. I think they've forgotten how to sculpt them.

It isn't just the double crux. The double light fixtures are strange as well (usually just one, or none), and the shoulders are set a fair bit higher (not just the pauldrons, but the left shoulder seem to be set at eye-level). No idea what the 'bridge' is above the cowl either, nor why the helmet is set so much further back than is typical.

Paint job is odd as well. Despite the blue shoulder splash, he looks like he belongs in the Black Legion. Though if you flattened the armor out, all the 'edge highlighting' would make you think he's made out of blackboard, already chalked up with drawings.

Voss wrote:
Its a very strange terminator. I think they've forgotten how to sculpt them.

It isn't just the double crux. The double light fixtures are strange as well (usually just one, or none), and the shoulders are set a fair bit higher (not just the pauldrons, but the left shoulder seem to be set at eye-level). No idea what the 'bridge' is above the cowl either, nor why the helmet is set so much further back than is typical.

Paint job is odd as well. Despite the blue shoulder splash, he looks like he belongs in the Black Legion. Though if you flattened the armor out, all the 'edge highlighting' would make you think he's made out of blackboard, already chalked up with drawings.

Eh. The double light fixtures have been used for a few years now. A similar chaplain had it, the Deathwing Knight leader has it, etc.

YAY Warhammer DAY!

Hoping for big reveals and events and info and stuff - esp since this should be revealing what we will start to see in 2021!


NOTE - Nottingham -home of GW - is on Tier 2 lockdown as of today with rising cases. This MIGHT WELL affect GW in the coming weeks. Right now its mostly increasing social lockdowns and even at tier 3 industry, schools and such remain functional; however if cases rise the city could be locked down in full.

Maybe it has 2 different crozaeus pads and a normal one, and they just used both the decorated ones?

Sotahullu wrote:
... Am I only one that wonders why that chaplain has Crux Terminatus on both of its shoulders?

He's trying to even out the fact that neither Tartatos or Cataphactii suits have one for some reason.

Voss wrote:
Its a very strange terminator. I think they've forgotten how to sculpt them.

It isn't just the double crux. The double light fixtures are strange as well (usually just one, or none), and the shoulders are set a fair bit higher (not just the pauldrons, but the left shoulder seem to be set at eye-level). No idea what the 'bridge' is above the cowl either, nor why the helmet is set so much further back than is typical.

This. I noticed it with the Terminator Librarian too - it's like they're trying to hide that Terminators are being scaled up so they don't look weedy next to Primaris. Trouble is, the proportions are thrown out of whack as a result, and to my eyes at least, it just doesn't look right.

That, and the double crux, means this is a hard pass for me.

...lastly, come on GW. By all means have a Warhammer Day - but do you not think Halloween has enough of its thunder stolen by Christmas and Thanksgiving already?!

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:
... Am I only one that wonders why that chaplain has Crux Terminatus on both of its shoulders?

He's trying to even out the fact that neither Tartatos or Cataphactii suits have one for some reason.

Because those patterns were pre-heresy. Crux Terminatus have a sliver of The Emperor’s armour in them and so only appear on Indomitus pattern armour as, well, He doesn’t need His armour anymore...

Let's start the betting pool - who wants to speculate on his RRP?

Most likely $35 USD. Don't see any reason it would be more..

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:
... Am I only one that wonders why that chaplain has Crux Terminatus on both of its shoulders?

He's trying to even out the fact that neither Tartatos or Cataphactii suits have one for some reason.

Because those patterns were pre-heresy. Crux Terminatus have a sliver of The Emperor’s armour in them and so only appear on Indomitus pattern armour as, well, He doesn’t need His armour anymore...

And that's why there was never a Forgeworld upgrade kit with crux shoulders. Wait, no...

Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines.

Doesn't this company know how to make ANYTHING else?

What exactly was the point of Primaris, Truescale if you will, if they're also going to continue to mix the scales?

What exactly is the plan here, are they just throwing stuff at the wall with no consideration?

I'm getting strong ETB vibes emanating from this guy, the pose is so awkward. The skull helmet screams derp too.

A lot of the newer plastic characters are lacking a certain "character", for want of a better term, that the older metal/resin models had in spades. You can tell straight away that this guy was designed on a computer rather than the traditional sculpting method.

I mean, when you compare it to the Termie Chappie below, there really is no comparison:

Quasistellar wrote:
Most likely $35 USD. Don't see any reason it would be more..

The new marine characters are $40 USD apiece.
Good chance this model will be at least that much.

He's nice looking. It's unfortunate though that he's so very similar to the store only chaplain. He's essentially just the same model in a different pose.

Still get him, given a the chance. Can never have too many chaplains.

I like the previous plastic Termy Chaplain, but this one isn't nearly as busy as that one, and I think that's a good thing.

And still not a regular Marine.

Nowhere near as good as the Store Birthday one :-/

Oh gooooood. More fething Spess Mehreens

Storm combi bolter flamer?

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I'm getting strong ETB vibes emanating from this guy, the pose is so awkward. The skull helmet screams derp too.

A lot of the newer plastic characters are lacking a certain "character", for want of a better term, that the older metal/resin models had in spades. You can tell straight away that this guy was designed on a computer rather than the traditional sculpting method.

I mean, when you compare it to the Termie Chappie below, there really is no comparison:

no, for one thing the crozus on the new one is straight

Err...okay?

Different strokes for different folks I guess!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Storm combi bolter flamer?

Just a Combi-Flamer - the Cataphractii / Tartaros / Chaos Terminator Combi weapons look like that (as does the Blood Angels Librarian).

beast_gts wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Storm combi bolter flamer?

Just a Combi-Flamer - the Cataphractii / Tartaros / Chaos Terminator Combi weapons look like that (as does the Blood Angels Librarian).

it's actually proably easier to mod a combi weapon like that, I'm already thinking of modding it to a combi melta.

 privateer4hire wrote:

Quasistellar wrote:
Most likely $35 USD. Don't see any reason it would be more..

The new marine characters are $40 USD apiece.
Good chance this model will be at least that much.

Not the generic ones. Only the named primaris. And the most recent comparable model was also 35.

Fair enough.

A bit too similar to the SKULLZ guy from a few years back, which is one of the few marines I still actually own (one of the few others being the gunslinger primaris chaplain as well).

I am a sucker for skull- headed marines in black armor with close combat weapons though, so there's a good chance I'll still get this guy...

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I'm getting strong ETB vibes emanating from this guy, the pose is so awkward. The skull helmet screams derp too.

I don't think that's fair. Most of this year's ETB kits look loads better than this new guy.
Better pose, anatomy and overall construction.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:
... Am I only one that wonders why that chaplain has Crux Terminatus on both of its shoulders?

He's trying to even out the fact that neither Tartatos or Cataphactii suits have one for some reason.

Because those patterns were pre-heresy. Crux Terminatus have a sliver of The Emperor’s armour in them and so only appear on Indomitus pattern armour as, well, He doesn’t need His armour anymore...

And that's why there was never a Forgeworld upgrade kit with crux shoulders. Wait, no...

The first Tartaros kit Forge World released was obviously a post-Heresy kit with the Crux Terminatus and Imperial Eagles on the chest, which was in practice replaced by the Horus Heresy kit (and later the plastic HH kit). That they are specially linked to the Indomitus pattern armour is obviously incorrect (as it was also used pre-Heresy, so the suits wouldn't have had any Cruces then), but otherwise the explanation makes sense.

Voss wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I'm getting strong ETB vibes emanating from this guy, the pose is so awkward. The skull helmet screams derp too.

I don't think that's fair. Most of this year's ETB kits look loads better than this new guy.
Better pose, anatomy and overall construction.

You’re right, it wasn’t totally fair.

I was thinking specifically of the recent Terminator Librarian that suffered from a similar awkward pose, which turned out to be ETB.

Man, there's got to be more SM chaplains than HQ choices for the whole Dark Eldar faction...

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Man, there's got to be more SM chaplains than HQ choices for the whole Dark Eldar faction...

it seems chaplains will be to 9th edition what Leuitenants where to 8th...

Superb model. I think i prefer him to the recent similar terminator chaplain.

New classic marine releases are always welcome

 Togusa wrote:
Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines.

Doesn't this company know how to make ANYTHING else?

I believe the original Warhammer Day model was going to be the Catachan Officer, which would've made me a lot happier - of course, being another Marine model just saved me £40.

My guess is since this one looks very, very, very, similar to the last Terminator Chaplain promotion model - to the point it took me reading this place to figure out they're not the same model - it was originally meant as a replacement to that.

What's interesting is the lack of an Age of Sigmar model, since they've rolled one out for the last two 'Warhammer Day(s)' if I remember right.

Voss wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I'm getting strong ETB vibes emanating from this guy, the pose is so awkward. The skull helmet screams derp too.

I don't think that's fair. Most of this year's ETB kits look loads better than this new guy.
Better pose, anatomy and overall construction.

You just described terminators. Terminators have always looked extremely goofy and super-deformed.

Not sure who you are responding to Cronch?

Terminators will always have a place in my heart, regardless of the anatomy issues. The Rogue Trader metal Termie box set was a very proud purchase of mine back in the late 80’s. The current plastic loyalist & Chaos kits look fantastic to me, this guy is a step or two backwards, design wise.

 Togusa wrote:
Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines.

Doesn't this company know how to make ANYTHING else?

Imperial Guard, Necrons, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Tau, Mechanicus, Chaos Marines, Daemons, Sisters Of Battle, Knights?

Necromunda? Blackstone Fortress?

Age Of Sigmar?

Titanicus, Aeronautica Imperialis?


Edited because I forgot the whole Middle Earth range.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Not sure who you are responding to Cronch?

Terminators will always have a place in my heart, regardless of the anatomy issues. The Rogue Trader metal Termie box set was a very proud purchase of mine back in the late 80’s. The current plastic loyalist & Chaos kits look fantastic to me, this guy is a step or two backwards, design wise.

This guy is no different to the other, horrible designs of terminators. Like, without nostalgia goggles they are just bad models, and always have been.

Cronch wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Not sure who you are responding to Cronch?

Terminators will always have a place in my heart, regardless of the anatomy issues. The Rogue Trader metal Termie box set was a very proud purchase of mine back in the late 80’s. The current plastic loyalist & Chaos kits look fantastic to me, this guy is a step or two backwards, design wise.

This guy is no different to the other, horrible designs of terminators. Like, without nostalgia goggles they are just bad models, and always have been.

Right, okay.

So when I like certain Terminators, but not others, I must be wearing or removing my “nostalgia goggles”.

Chaplains are never caught short of TP.

Joyboozer wrote:
Chaplains are never caught short of TP.

... well that explains the shortage.

Ooh! Plastic termie Chaplain - Want!

Looks slightly derpy tbh but nothing a lil kitbashing can't fix

A marine army can never have too many Chaplains, Techmarines and Apotecharies IMO

Cronch wrote:
This guy is no different to the other, horrible designs of terminators. Like, without nostalgia goggles they are just bad models, and always have been.

I mean... from a technical viewpoint, you're not wrong, there's no way the proportions have ever made sense when you try and figure out how a human build would fit their arms and legs into the armour. But, like it or not, that classic bulk is part of the charm for many - myself and Undead Love-Machine included, it seems.
The changes in proportion in these newer models mean that charm is lost.

 Arbitrator wrote:

I believe the original Warhammer Day model was going to be the Catachan Officer, which would've made me a lot happier - of course, being another Marine model just saved me £40.

Sergeant Ripper Jackson was intended to be the store opening models while the Catachan Colonel had "Store Anniversary" on the boxes I've seen, meaning he was intended for that.

 Togusa wrote:
Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines.

I believe the last four limited edition minis were:

1. A Catachan.
2. A Sister of Battle.
3. A Space Marine.
4. Another Catachan.

So yeah. I think they know how to do more than Space Marines.

They will have my attention with a Vostroyan character

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

I believe the original Warhammer Day model was going to be the Catachan Officer, which would've made me a lot happier - of course, being another Marine model just saved me £40.

Sergeant Ripper Jackson was intended to be the store opening models while the Catachan Colonel had "Store Anniversary" on the boxes I've seen, meaning he was intended for that.

Sergeant Ripper Jackson also has Store Anniversary written on it

Whilst agreeing that they do do non-SM specials, I do feel it's a bit 'off' that it's supposedly "Warhammer day' but again only one game line exists. And I say that as someone who does FAR more 40k than Fantasy.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I'm getting strong ETB vibes emanating from this guy, the pose is so awkward. The skull helmet screams derp too.

A lot of the newer plastic characters are lacking a certain "character", for want of a better term, that the older metal/resin models had in spades. You can tell straight away that this guy was designed on a computer rather than the traditional sculpting method.

I mean, when you compare it to the Termie Chappie below, there really is no comparison:

The new one has better proportioned legs and torso; the old one must’ve been a Squat masquerading as a SM. Yes, I am aware the older models all suffered from that. Newer one do not; or are significantly improved. Arms and head need adjustment, but that’s been true of the Indomitus Termies for a long time, and part of their “classic” look I suppose. Actually that could work for their fluff - wasn’t her Indomitus introduced by the Iron Hands during the Great Crusade, and require the user to be permanently “installed” into the armor?

If you're really going to make the proportion argument, the metal chaplain has unusually dropped shoulders so is actually closer to normal than the plastic one, and the thinned waist and thigh terminator armor make it look like the plastic one is either wrapped in painted paper mache instead of plate armor there, or has a very dainty (read: emaciated) figure in order to wear that thick armor.

Not great. But maybe an arm swap and trimming off at least one roll of TP will really help out this mini. And probably a better paint job on the face will make him look less goofy.

I'm hoping the flamer barrel is a seperate piece to make kitbashing a differant combi weapon easier



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 Togusa wrote:
Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines.

Doesn't this company know how to make ANYTHING else?

Is this fellow free? If not then how much is he to buy?

They give them away in raffles.

 Soundtheory wrote:
Actually that could work for their fluff - wasn’t her Indomitus introduced by the Iron Hands during the Great Crusade, and require the user to be permanently “installed” into the armor?

No, these were Gorgon pattern Terminators, upgraded, heavy Indomitus. And Ferrus fully intended to fix the installing problem (which was a bug, not a feature) before getting severe case of Fulgrim to the neck.

Also, I don't get why people say hand sculpted minis are any good. The "computer" made ones (which funnily enough, are often hand sculpted, digitized, and just fixed with computer) look like actual armor produced in forges. The hand sculpts are full of imperfections, errors, uneven stuff - I love the design of old TC but the crozius is crooked, bands on grip are uneven, skeletons aren't symmetrical, crux on belt looks like drawn by child, skulls look comical, bolter barrels uneven with gun case (and the ammunition looks like I have no idea what but it certainly ain't bullets) - really, only two things save the model from looking like garbage next to new one, much better paint job and helmet design. Anatomy is just terrible (which funnily enough was in places so bad it went around the scale to 'good' position - sculptor misplaced arms and put them in wrong place for TDA but much more natural one for proper human...) to the point his pelvis and bottom half of the spine were removed and legs bolted to the sides of rib cage.

People really should take off rose glasses, Diaz was genius in design but even that doesn't change the fact execution of old models was just bad even compared with worst modern ones.

Old one looks much better. No amount of text wall can change that, and I think the more relevant argument being made in this thread is not that hand sculpts are superior, but that termies aren't upscaling too well.

I'll be very interested to know the sculpting date of this model. Or at least, the date on the sprue.

JWBS wrote:
Old one looks much better. No amount of text wall can change that, and I think the more relevant argument being made in this thread is not that hand sculpts are superior, but that termies aren't upscaling too well.

This. The old model looks better in spite of the technology difference, not because of it.

They both look bad. In fact all terminators that aren't Abaddon, Horus or Perturabo look bad. The new one is worse but that's because any new manlets are probably practice pieces turned into event minis.

 Super Ready wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Old one looks much better. No amount of text wall can change that, and I think the more relevant argument being made in this thread is not that hand sculpts are superior, but that termies aren't upscaling too well.

This. The old model looks better in spite of the technology difference, not because of it.

Yeah, I was going to do a full critique of both (for what that would be worth) but couldn't be bothered. Also worth noting though, despite that plastics have come a very long way and most of the new stuff looks way better than the old metal stuff, there are still limitations. Look at the Crux on the metal - nice, crisp, with an undercut. The crux on the new one just looks like a projection. The scrolls on the original compared to whatever those tassels are hanging off the front of the new one - those new tassles look like exactly what they are - bits of plastic. You can imagine the scrollwork on the classic model being actual paper. The list of differences is long, but the underlying main underlying difference is that the classic model is a better concept, with better execution, with a different design process and made in a different material. The new one is, as someone has said above, a practice piece that they're flogging as 'Special, wow, Limited', in the hopes of selling a few.

Question: why, on the new one, is the combi bolter side skull scroll going out rather than across? Like, I don't understand how the character/wind is supposed to be moving when everything else is moving the other way?

I think its meant to be being pushed in that direction by his knee (although the 360 view would be needed to confirm it)

although to add drama maybe there's a pendulum mechanism in the skulls so the scrolls swing even in the airless void of space

You might be right on both counts, actually. Unlike most scrolls and purity seals, which are just trailing paper at the bottom, these actually have what look like weights on the end. Swinging isn't too tough to imagine.

Maybe I was being too subtle. There's no way it's swinging by that weight since it has no tension. The dangly bobs have terrible physics, which make pretty much zero sense given their mass and weird flappy quality. It's like bad video game physics; the cloth should be conforming to the rest of the movement, and probably the shape of the armor it's adjacent to, as even if it doesn't make contact it would either have affected the swing (if heavy) or affected the air (if light). Furthermore, the heavier and less wind-resistant objects (dangling from the rosary thing and the chain) are affected by movement, as is the cloth which would be more affected by wind. So, that bit is resisting physics.

...Unless we're to imagine that it's positioned that way due to elasticity or tension, in which case they'd be bouncing and bobbing as the chaplain moved, or those are stiff, say, like plastic designed by someone who wasn't thinking about the design of their single-pose model.

I’m curious as to whether there will be previews for Warhammer day. The article didn’t seem to mention any (at least I missed then if it did).

 Sabotage! wrote:
I’m curious as to whether there will be previews for Warhammer day. The article didn’t seem to mention any (at least I missed then if it did).

I'd expect something since there really isn't anything else they can do this year. They can't really hold a celebration or party of events in stores like they do normally.

 Overread wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
I’m curious as to whether there will be previews for Warhammer day. The article didn’t seem to mention any (at least I missed then if it did).

I'd expect something since there really isn't anything else they can do this year. They can't really hold a celebration or party of events in stores like they do normally.

I think they’d have mentioned it in the article and/or at the end of the last preview stream if there was going to be anything.

This just appeared on facebook from a stockiest in Bedford. Appears that GW is using Warhammer day like their Store anniversary events in the past.
I'm aware that in the past for store events there was some wriggling room in the reward tiers and we've no details on if GW is going to do the same through their online store this time around - due to covid restrictions (esp seeing as some regions of the UK are locking down tighter).




If that's the same bag they had last year then its a good bag - roomy too it will easily fit a standard "duel army new model release" box or new edition box or other similar boxes

I stopped in at my local Warhammer store and the manager showed these off.

The art prints are pretty decent, the ammo tin is chintzy AF and backpack looks pretty quality.

The tiers here in the US are: $80, $150 and $250.

 oni wrote:
the ammo tin is chintzy AF

It's just the Half Moon Bay one.

beast_gts wrote:

 oni wrote:
the ammo tin is chintzy AF

It's just the Half Moon Bay one.

I was about to ask if that was the case, having gotten that in one of my mystery boxes.

Oh well, might just be the prints for me this year, if I go that big - got the bag last year.

I might be out of this one, unless three things happen:

1) GW runs it through their online store

2) GW allows pre-orders made on the day to count (it should it did last year)

3) GW puts the new Slaanesh and DoK duel set on sale for pre-order on the Saturday

If they do all three of those things I'll be in this, even more so if the Morathi book were on pre-order at the same time. That said I don't think I'll get that lucky twice in a row - last time I did this it was Ossiarchs going on pre-order for the first time.

I really like this guy. I don't even play space marines but I might pick one up just to have. The revised proportions really do wonders compared to older terminator sculpts and he has just the right amount of parchment stuck on.

A bunch of stockists are offering the Chaplain for pre-order this week, but the GW webstore isn't.

Bit weird.

 Overread wrote:
I might be out of this one, unless three things happen:

1) GW runs it through their online store

2) GW allows pre-orders made on the day to count (it should it did last year)

3) GW puts the new Slaanesh and DoK duel set on sale for pre-order on the Saturday

If they do all three of those things I'll be in this, even more so if the Morathi book were on pre-order at the same time. That said I don't think I'll get that lucky twice in a row - last time I did this it was Ossiarchs going on pre-order for the first time.

Wasn't duel box specifically said to be november release? If yes forget that. 31.10 preorders are for gw stlll october releases. They would not refer it as november release.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
A bunch of stockists are offering the Chaplain for pre-order this week, but the GW webstore isn't.

Bit weird.

I didn't think GW normally put event models up as a pre-order - independents, of course, are probably free to do as they will in this regard.

 Dysartes wrote:

I didn't think GW normally put event models up as a pre-order - independents, of course, are probably free to do as they will in this regard.

It isn't common, but sometimes they do event models as preorders--but if they do? It tends to be the date listed for the event rather than the week before, and it's basically you just ordering the model.

Independents are usually allocated specific numbers of the models so that's probably why.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/26/celebrating-warhammer-day/. So.. No preview?

Yeah, I guess not. I was looking forward to some information on... anything, really. But I guess its 'tune in to people gibbering on about social media.'

zamerion wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/26/celebrating-warhammer-day/. So.. No preview?

Only ones that said there would be previews were players so...yeah not a surprise.

tneva82 wrote:

zamerion wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/26/celebrating-warhammer-day/. So.. No preview?

Only ones that said there would be previews were players so...yeah not a surprise.

Well to be fair that was mostly fuelled by the fact that GW can't really do much else right now. Normally it would be a day to encourage people to go to the stores to play games; compete in events; paint and display etc... along with some tournament or such at Warhammer World. Instead we are in Covid situations with regions like Nottingham and much of the North locking down to level 3 whilst Wales has totally locked down once more. So yeah its really not the time for GW to send the "go to the store" message.

Meanwhile get together and hobby is sort of what they did during the previous major lockdown and do most evenings with their twitch stream so its nothing new/fresh.

I'm sure they've got some stuff, but its likely going to be a more muted affair than in previous years. That said I'm sure we'll get some news in November considering how right now all we have are the few remaining 40K/Necron kits that we know about; the Bloodbowl that looks like it will be going up this weekend or next; Morathi and the duel army pack in November and a few other bits. Basically December and onward is unknown save for 1 teased Xenos codex for 40K

The weekend around 1st November is usually when GW reveal the Christmas Battleforce bundles so I wouldn't be surprised to see those appear as part of GW Day.

Wouldn’t they just reveal on Sunday.
That’s the usual GW reveal day for pre orders isn’t it?

Danny76 wrote:
Wouldn’t they just reveal on Sunday.
That’s the usual GW reveal day for pre orders isn’t it?

Last year the battleforces where shown at the end of October a month before their real preorder date at the end of November but they where also leaked beforehand so maybe that was just because of that and they won't show them until later

Danny76 wrote:
Wouldn’t they just reveal on Sunday.
That’s the usual GW reveal day for pre orders isn’t it?

They don’t usually go on sale until December but get previewed earlier as they are in promotional material like the Christmas gift guide.

For what it’s worth?

Those that hit the Big Spender reward? The rucksack is of solid quality!

Just got hands on Chaplain Tarentus. He's Easy to buily, no clippers required (like the prior Terminator Librarian and SM Heroes series models) Left crux is molded on top the combi-flamer arm, right pad is separate just like the librarian, so should be simple to drop a normal pad on top.

So the sprue pretty much confirms my theory that this was meant to be one of those Space Marine Heroes models. I had my suspicions since he had one of those scenic bases. And looking at the sprue, it has the same weird, rounded edges as the space marine heroes, and the head is one of the "slot" in heads, identical to the second wave featuring Terminators. Boo.

Also, at least you can swap out the right shoulder pad. No such luck for people wanting to make him deathwatch.

Yeah that’s what pissed me off about the MTO Librarian. It’s a SMH model marked up to $35 when $8 is already overpriced if we’re honest.

 zend wrote:
Yeah that’s what pissed me off about the MTO Librarian. It’s a SMH model marked up to $35 when $8 is already overpriced if we’re honest.

Honestly, since it's a character/unique, they'd definitely force him into a $65 dollar paint set, like they did with the standard bearer and the much nicer nurgle sorcerer.

Quasistellar wrote:
Most likely $35 USD. Don't see any reason it would be more..

Listed at $35 on miniatures market.
I was wrong.

Yah know for a day GW advertised and such I have to say - I'm not really "feeling" much of anything for Warhammer Day. If anything the only notable event for those not turning up to a store is the chaplain model for marines.

Seems sort of odd that GW would make all that marketing noise and then not really have anything going on.




Not normally one to gripe much at their marketing and such days but it just seems so strange to have nothing to engage with remotely. Especially considering that everyone knew it wasn't going to be much of a store day (even if you do visit to spend to get the rewards - which seem to only be present in stores and not online - you can only turn up, spend and leave.

Have you been bombarded with Warhammer Day marketing? If so, I think you're the only one.

 Overread wrote:
This just appeared on facebook from a stockiest in Bedford. Appears that GW is using Warhammer day like their Store anniversary events in the past.
I'm aware that in the past for store events there was some wriggling room in the reward tiers and we've no details on if GW is going to do the same through their online store this time around - due to covid restrictions (esp seeing as some regions of the UK are locking down tighter).

Spoiler:

If that's the same bag they had last year then its a good bag - roomy too it will easily fit a standard "duel army new model release" box or new edition box or other similar boxes

Interestingly, when I went in I was told that it wasn't a case of just getting one of the rewards (unless you spent a silly amount of money), you got all the bits for each threshold you cleared. Ended up with the prints and a spare ammo tin - not that I've figured out what to do with the first one yet...

 Overread wrote:
Seems sort of odd that GW would make all that marketing noise and then not really have anything going on.

Seems that "Here. Have a new model." is about the extent of GW's celebrations.

Ye to be honest I was kind of expecting something, last weekends previews felt more like "WARHAMMER DAY". They could have even saved the morathi book trailer for today.

I guess the sort of thing they'd want to do would involve more people at their stores, which is a little tricky at the moment - and that was before the news about a potential second English lockdown started to circulate.

We got a sneak peak at "something" https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/31/the-spookiest-models-of-the-year/

Though honestly that article feels less "Warhammer Day" and more "Halloween" material.

JWBS wrote:
Have you been bombarded with Warhammer Day marketing? If so, I think you're the only one.

Well there were all those articles GW put on their website about Warhammer Day coming and such. Sure it wasn't the same hype build up as a big preview event or a release like Indomitus. But GW chose to make "Warhammer Day" a thing; they marketed it and we all knew very few people (in comparison to normal) would be heading to the shops to celebrate (where, again, even if you can buy you can't often stay, socialise or play). So they sort of created and event for themselves and then, didn't do anything with it. I appreciate that normally it would be a big day of games and events in-person, but they knew well in advance this time that there wouldn't be that aspect. It just seems odd, even a few articles on "the year in review" type of thing would have been nice.

It's just a bit of a sense of a waste.

Yeah it was always going to be a bust, but I suppose they felt they had to schedule it anyway in case of an improvement, knowing it was likely to be a non-event. Year in review would have been good I agree but maybe that's still to come.

At least we got a pretty cool Termi Chaplain out of it.

Now to find a (or some) plain Termi shoulder pad (or pads) on eBay so he ain't packing a double Crux...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Seems sort of odd that GW would make all that marketing noise and then not really have anything going on.

Seems that "Here. Have a new model." is about the extent of GW's celebrations.

Which is fine, honestly. If all they want to do is show off upcoming models or books, that makes sense to me.
Pictures of toast is just kinda weird.

ok conspiracy time, GW got word through grapevine of uk shut down, so did event to promote a last big visit to local stores before rules go into effect.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Seems sort of odd that GW would make all that marketing noise and then not really have anything going on.

Seems that "Here. Have a new model." is about the extent of GW's celebrations.

"Have a new model"? To be precise, it was merely "Buy a new model!"; same as every week really.

They could at least have organized something on their Twitch - not a preview, that wasn't on the agenda, but some stream with hobby-related discussions, showcases, whatever, something compensating for the fact people won't be gathering at stores for obvious reasons. From what I can see, there wasn't any broadcast at all yesterday. Quite the celebration.

 Overread wrote:
Yah know for a day GW advertised and such I have to say - I'm not really "feeling" much of anything for Warhammer Day. If anything the only notable event for those not turning up to a store is the chaplain model for marines.

Seems sort of odd that GW would make all that marketing noise and then not really have anything going on.




Not normally one to gripe much at their marketing and such days but it just seems so strange to have nothing to engage with remotely. Especially considering that everyone knew it wasn't going to be much of a store day (even if you do visit to spend to get the rewards - which seem to only be present in stores and not online - you can only turn up, spend and leave.

What exactly were you expecting in the midst of a pandemic? They can hardly throw a street party.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Yah know for a day GW advertised and such I have to say - I'm not really "feeling" much of anything for Warhammer Day. If anything the only notable event for those not turning up to a store is the chaplain model for marines.

Seems sort of odd that GW would make all that marketing noise and then not really have anything going on.




Not normally one to gripe much at their marketing and such days but it just seems so strange to have nothing to engage with remotely. Especially considering that everyone knew it wasn't going to be much of a store day (even if you do visit to spend to get the rewards - which seem to only be present in stores and not online - you can only turn up, spend and leave.

What exactly were you expecting in the midst of a pandemic? They can hardly throw a street party.

Well it was an event they created and marketed and there's a host of things they could have done online:
1) A Twitch stream through the day with things like hobby painting; conversions; interviews; socially distanced games etc... Sure nothing "new" that they don't do already, but something done in spirit of the day

2) A few articles on the community page. Perhaps since Warhammer day is like the end and start of a warhammer year they could have done a year in reflection; perhaps show behind the scenes how they are keeping covid safe; perhaps go into what's come out this year etc...

3) Present more rewards for store purchases from the main store. Even if they couldn't do it all they could have offered things like the artwork that was offered in-store through the online store.

4) Have a few more unique items. For a day Celebrating Warhammer its odd that the only unique thing was a Chaplain for one army from one game. Again they could have done a promotion with the merchandise; done at least one AoS model etc....

5) If the GW team didn't have time/resources to do twitch streams and such they could have networked with content creators in the community and given them a show-case day through the official stream. Or even encouraged them to do "Warhammer Day" presentations and then linked them through the community pages

That's just a few rough ideas that doesn't require them to do anything "new" but does present something to engage with on "Warhammer Day". Again this isn't something just out of the blue, they chose to market it as an event and then didn't really provide anything; knowing full well in advance that many people would be unable to attend stores and that stores wouldn't even be able to hold games or do anything beyond take money. In the end Warhammer Day was great for those who attended stores - the bag, tin and art are all great items to get (heck the bag I got last year). But beyond that it wasn't really much of a celebration. Oddly on the GW Community page nothing really appeared to celebrate the day until the very end of the day (ergo the normal Saturday one-slot info release) and even then we technically got more excitement (the teased photo) from a Halloween branded bit of media than from the actual Warhammer Day.



Heck I know this is griping and like I said before I don't generally worry or both about the "best ever show/reveal/event" type marketing. But there's a difference between something happening and nothing happening and really for their online market (which is pretty darn large and quite dominate right now with lockdowns) it just felt empty. If anything a bit of a sore reminder on how many of us can't go out and engage with the hobby with friends.

 Overread wrote:
Yah know for a day GW advertised and such I have to say - I'm not really "feeling" much of anything for Warhammer Day. If anything the only notable event for those not turning up to a store is the chaplain model for marines.

Seems sort of odd that GW would make all that marketing noise and then not really have anything going on.


Not normally one to gripe much at their marketing and such days but it just seems so strange to have nothing to engage with remotely. Especially considering that everyone knew it wasn't going to be much of a store day (even if you do visit to spend to get the rewards - which seem to only be present in stores and not online - you can only turn up, spend and leave.

Well, it was 29th June in 2019. This year they tried to hijack Halloween. I guess everyone was busy.

Maybe GW would have made more money selling Warhammer costumes for Halloween. Obviously, named model costumes would cost more than basic troop costumes as you don't need to buy as many.

This all leaves me wondering if we will get another preview before the years over. I imagine they will want to show off the new AoS stuff that seems likely to be arriving in January and the new Kill Team (whatever it is) that will likely be releasing in January or February.

 Sabotage! wrote:
This all leaves me wondering if we will get another preview before the years over. I imagine they will want to show off the new AoS stuff that seems likely to be arriving in January and the new Kill Team (whatever it is) that will likely be releasing in January or February.

Huh? AOS stuff in january? Has there been much of hints of it? As far as I know there's not been hinting much of beyond the morathi book.

tneva82 wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
This all leaves me wondering if we will get another preview before the years over. I imagine they will want to show off the new AoS stuff that seems likely to be arriving in January and the new Kill Team (whatever it is) that will likely be releasing in January or February.

Huh? AOS stuff in january? Has there been much of hints of it? As far as I know there's not been hinting much of beyond the morathi book.

Well, it’s all speculation on my part, so it could be irresponsible. That said GW has been leaning really heavy into a certain “theme” with their rumor mill hints, and the zombie/cursed dryad/scarecrow thing they showed on Halloween. I’m suspecting we are going to get a January release of whatever they are like we got with Gloomspite Gitz.

But bear in mind they could easily be in April/May, or whenever.
As part of book 3/4 of the new campaign, or whichever.
Rumour engines can take ages to come to fruition..

Danny76 wrote:
But bear in mind they could easily be in April/May, or whenever.
As part of book 3/4 of the new campaign, or whichever.
Rumour engines can take ages to come to fruition..

This is very well a possibility, I feel like Lumineth were meant to come out in Spring, Sons were meant for Summer (though they aren’t really a new army, just one new horrendously overpriced kit), and these guys were meant to be late Fall with their spooky vibes. I’m just speculating and all, but I think AoS is probably due for another decent release soon and I could see them doing something like they did for the Gitz, especially after getting that silhouette - which leads me to believe we will get a full reveal of that model in a month/month and a half or so.

Something else to consider is that if 3rd ed comes next summer, GW may not want to release the new army and whatever the feature armies for the new edition are back to back so as not to cannibalize sales off each other. It's easier to make a case for a new army release sooner rather than later, in my opinion.

Doesn't GW still stick with a three month limit on information about the next release, by and large? We did get the Halloween teaser picture, so it stands to reason that the associated model won't be further out than February.

Also it seems to me that Kill Team should have been a November release and Underworlds the usual October release instead of December. I'd take that to mean that any delays we can put down on Corona won't draw out releases further than two months.

As for the next preview, we got something for or just after Christmas in the last couple of years, so there's a good chance that we'll get at least one more preview this year, even if it's at the very end of it,

 Geifer wrote:
Something else to consider is that if 3rd ed comes next summer, GW may not want to release the new army and whatever the feature armies for the new edition are back to back so as not to cannibalize sales off each other. It's easier to make a case for a new army release sooner rather than later, in my opinion.

Doesn't GW still stick with a three month limit on information about the next release, by and large? We did get the Halloween teaser picture, so it stands to reason that the associated model won't be further out than February.

Also it seems to me that Kill Team should have been a November release and Underworlds the usual October release instead of December. I'd take that to mean that any delays we can put down on Corona won't draw out releases further than two months.

As for the next preview, we got something for or just after Christmas in the last couple of years, so there's a good chance that we'll get at least one more preview this year, even if it's at the very end of it,

that one is ussualy the first weekend of the year as lookback at last year and a short glimp of the coming year

We got that, too, but that's not what I mean. We also had actual previews on Christmas and the days leading up to New Year's, respectively.

Speaking of the wonderful multi-national spectacular that was Warhammer Day, I just got notice that Terminator Chaplain Tarentus has shipped.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Speaking of the wonderful multi-national spectacular that was Warhammer Day, I just got notice that Terminator Chaplain Tarentus has shipped.

My local had one. Not sure how I feel about him being SMH style sprued and snap-fit.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Not sure how I feel about him being SMH style sprued and snap-fit.

Does it really matter, though?

I'm not saying "How dare you! You're wrong!". I'm just curious as why you think that makes a difference. When the model's build and painted, does it matter how it went together?

Yes. They don’t perform as well on the table

Personally, I guessed that it was ETB before we had seen the sprue, so it makes a difference to my eye at least.

Danny76 wrote:
Yes. They don’t perform as well on the table

Lol. Good luck trying to find justification for that claim

tneva82 wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Yes. They don’t perform as well on the table

Lol. Good luck trying to find justification for that claim

Explaining the joke.

My only gripes with the model are around the dual-Crux shoulders. Ideally, the sprue should've been done with both pads separate to the arms, and with a plain - or, at least, non-Crux - pad included.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Personally, I guessed that it was ETB before we had seen the sprue, so it makes a difference to my eye at least.

Agreed, it did look somewhat "flat", not quite as multi-layered as typical character figures made from more parts.

If, based on the pictures, you liked the figure anyway, it shouldn't make a difference of course, beyond perhaps some specific conversions that may require a bit more effort based on the way figures go together.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Not sure how I feel about him being SMH style sprued and snap-fit.

I'm just curious as why you think that makes a difference. When the model's build and painted, does it matter how it went together?

Hence the "I'm not sure" part. The only thing that makes a difference is that if I wanted to swap the right pad for a Chapter specific one, there's no shoulder to actually attach the pad to, only a hollow space with a post.

Ball of green stuff.
Tweaking SM shoulders is very simple, since the shoulder pad naturally tends to overlap and obscure adjustments.

 Geifer wrote:
Something else to consider is that if 3rd ed comes next summer, GW may not want to release the new army and whatever the feature armies for the new edition are back to back so as not to cannibalize sales off each other. It's easier to make a case for a new army release sooner rather than later, in my opinion.

Idoneth only released a couple of months before 2.0.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Personally, I guessed that it was ETB before we had seen the sprue, so it makes a difference to my eye at least.

Agreed, it did look somewhat "flat", not quite as multi-layered as typical character figures made from more parts.

If, based on the pictures, you liked the figure anyway, it shouldn't make a difference of course, beyond perhaps some specific conversions that may require a bit more effort based on the way figures go together.

It's the right arm. It's at an unnatural angle that accentuates a terminator's unfeasible anatomy, and it can't be moved because the handle of the crozius is embedded in the cloak.