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Whilst agreeing that they do do non-SM specials, I do feel it's a bit 'off' that it's supposedly "Warhammer day' but again only one game line exists. And I say that as someone who does FAR more 40k than Fantasy.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I'm getting strong ETB vibes emanating from this guy, the pose is so awkward. The skull helmet screams derp too.

A lot of the newer plastic characters are lacking a certain "character", for want of a better term, that the older metal/resin models had in spades. You can tell straight away that this guy was designed on a computer rather than the traditional sculpting method.

I mean, when you compare it to the Termie Chappie below, there really is no comparison:

The new one has better proportioned legs and torso; the old one must’ve been a Squat masquerading as a SM. Yes, I am aware the older models all suffered from that. Newer one do not; or are significantly improved. Arms and head need adjustment, but that’s been true of the Indomitus Termies for a long time, and part of their “classic” look I suppose. Actually that could work for their fluff - wasn’t her Indomitus introduced by the Iron Hands during the Great Crusade, and require the user to be permanently “installed” into the armor?

If you're really going to make the proportion argument, the metal chaplain has unusually dropped shoulders so is actually closer to normal than the plastic one, and the thinned waist and thigh terminator armor make it look like the plastic one is either wrapped in painted paper mache instead of plate armor there, or has a very dainty (read: emaciated) figure in order to wear that thick armor.

Not great. But maybe an arm swap and trimming off at least one roll of TP will really help out this mini. And probably a better paint job on the face will make him look less goofy.

I'm hoping the flamer barrel is a seperate piece to make kitbashing a differant combi weapon easier



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 Togusa wrote:
Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines. Space Marines.

Doesn't this company know how to make ANYTHING else?

Is this fellow free? If not then how much is he to buy?

They give them away in raffles.

 Soundtheory wrote:
Actually that could work for their fluff - wasn’t her Indomitus introduced by the Iron Hands during the Great Crusade, and require the user to be permanently “installed” into the armor?

No, these were Gorgon pattern Terminators, upgraded, heavy Indomitus. And Ferrus fully intended to fix the installing problem (which was a bug, not a feature) before getting severe case of Fulgrim to the neck.

Also, I don't get why people say hand sculpted minis are any good. The "computer" made ones (which funnily enough, are often hand sculpted, digitized, and just fixed with computer) look like actual armor produced in forges. The hand sculpts are full of imperfections, errors, uneven stuff - I love the design of old TC but the crozius is crooked, bands on grip are uneven, skeletons aren't symmetrical, crux on belt looks like drawn by child, skulls look comical, bolter barrels uneven with gun case (and the ammunition looks like I have no idea what but it certainly ain't bullets) - really, only two things save the model from looking like garbage next to new one, much better paint job and helmet design. Anatomy is just terrible (which funnily enough was in places so bad it went around the scale to 'good' position - sculptor misplaced arms and put them in wrong place for TDA but much more natural one for proper human...) to the point his pelvis and bottom half of the spine were removed and legs bolted to the sides of rib cage.

People really should take off rose glasses, Diaz was genius in design but even that doesn't change the fact execution of old models was just bad even compared with worst modern ones.

Old one looks much better. No amount of text wall can change that, and I think the more relevant argument being made in this thread is not that hand sculpts are superior, but that termies aren't upscaling too well.

I'll be very interested to know the sculpting date of this model. Or at least, the date on the sprue.

JWBS wrote:
Old one looks much better. No amount of text wall can change that, and I think the more relevant argument being made in this thread is not that hand sculpts are superior, but that termies aren't upscaling too well.

This. The old model looks better in spite of the technology difference, not because of it.

They both look bad. In fact all terminators that aren't Abaddon, Horus or Perturabo look bad. The new one is worse but that's because any new manlets are probably practice pieces turned into event minis.

 Super Ready wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Old one looks much better. No amount of text wall can change that, and I think the more relevant argument being made in this thread is not that hand sculpts are superior, but that termies aren't upscaling too well.

This. The old model looks better in spite of the technology difference, not because of it.

Yeah, I was going to do a full critique of both (for what that would be worth) but couldn't be bothered. Also worth noting though, despite that plastics have come a very long way and most of the new stuff looks way better than the old metal stuff, there are still limitations. Look at the Crux on the metal - nice, crisp, with an undercut. The crux on the new one just looks like a projection. The scrolls on the original compared to whatever those tassels are hanging off the front of the new one - those new tassles look like exactly what they are - bits of plastic. You can imagine the scrollwork on the classic model being actual paper. The list of differences is long, but the underlying main underlying difference is that the classic model is a better concept, with better execution, with a different design process and made in a different material. The new one is, as someone has said above, a practice piece that they're flogging as 'Special, wow, Limited', in the hopes of selling a few.

Question: why, on the new one, is the combi bolter side skull scroll going out rather than across? Like, I don't understand how the character/wind is supposed to be moving when everything else is moving the other way?

I think its meant to be being pushed in that direction by his knee (although the 360 view would be needed to confirm it)

although to add drama maybe there's a pendulum mechanism in the skulls so the scrolls swing even in the airless void of space

You might be right on both counts, actually. Unlike most scrolls and purity seals, which are just trailing paper at the bottom, these actually have what look like weights on the end. Swinging isn't too tough to imagine.

Maybe I was being too subtle. There's no way it's swinging by that weight since it has no tension. The dangly bobs have terrible physics, which make pretty much zero sense given their mass and weird flappy quality. It's like bad video game physics; the cloth should be conforming to the rest of the movement, and probably the shape of the armor it's adjacent to, as even if it doesn't make contact it would either have affected the swing (if heavy) or affected the air (if light). Furthermore, the heavier and less wind-resistant objects (dangling from the rosary thing and the chain) are affected by movement, as is the cloth which would be more affected by wind. So, that bit is resisting physics.

...Unless we're to imagine that it's positioned that way due to elasticity or tension, in which case they'd be bouncing and bobbing as the chaplain moved, or those are stiff, say, like plastic designed by someone who wasn't thinking about the design of their single-pose model.

I’m curious as to whether there will be previews for Warhammer day. The article didn’t seem to mention any (at least I missed then if it did).

 Sabotage! wrote:
I’m curious as to whether there will be previews for Warhammer day. The article didn’t seem to mention any (at least I missed then if it did).

I'd expect something since there really isn't anything else they can do this year. They can't really hold a celebration or party of events in stores like they do normally.

 Overread wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
I’m curious as to whether there will be previews for Warhammer day. The article didn’t seem to mention any (at least I missed then if it did).

I'd expect something since there really isn't anything else they can do this year. They can't really hold a celebration or party of events in stores like they do normally.

I think they’d have mentioned it in the article and/or at the end of the last preview stream if there was going to be anything.

This just appeared on facebook from a stockiest in Bedford. Appears that GW is using Warhammer day like their Store anniversary events in the past.
I'm aware that in the past for store events there was some wriggling room in the reward tiers and we've no details on if GW is going to do the same through their online store this time around - due to covid restrictions (esp seeing as some regions of the UK are locking down tighter).




If that's the same bag they had last year then its a good bag - roomy too it will easily fit a standard "duel army new model release" box or new edition box or other similar boxes

I stopped in at my local Warhammer store and the manager showed these off.

The art prints are pretty decent, the ammo tin is chintzy AF and backpack looks pretty quality.

The tiers here in the US are: $80, $150 and $250.

 oni wrote:
the ammo tin is chintzy AF

It's just the Half Moon Bay one.

beast_gts wrote:

 oni wrote:
the ammo tin is chintzy AF

It's just the Half Moon Bay one.

I was about to ask if that was the case, having gotten that in one of my mystery boxes.

Oh well, might just be the prints for me this year, if I go that big - got the bag last year.

I might be out of this one, unless three things happen:

1) GW runs it through their online store

2) GW allows pre-orders made on the day to count (it should it did last year)

3) GW puts the new Slaanesh and DoK duel set on sale for pre-order on the Saturday

If they do all three of those things I'll be in this, even more so if the Morathi book were on pre-order at the same time. That said I don't think I'll get that lucky twice in a row - last time I did this it was Ossiarchs going on pre-order for the first time.

I really like this guy. I don't even play space marines but I might pick one up just to have. The revised proportions really do wonders compared to older terminator sculpts and he has just the right amount of parchment stuck on.

A bunch of stockists are offering the Chaplain for pre-order this week, but the GW webstore isn't.

Bit weird.

 Overread wrote:
I might be out of this one, unless three things happen:

1) GW runs it through their online store

2) GW allows pre-orders made on the day to count (it should it did last year)

3) GW puts the new Slaanesh and DoK duel set on sale for pre-order on the Saturday

If they do all three of those things I'll be in this, even more so if the Morathi book were on pre-order at the same time. That said I don't think I'll get that lucky twice in a row - last time I did this it was Ossiarchs going on pre-order for the first time.

Wasn't duel box specifically said to be november release? If yes forget that. 31.10 preorders are for gw stlll october releases. They would not refer it as november release.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
A bunch of stockists are offering the Chaplain for pre-order this week, but the GW webstore isn't.

Bit weird.

I didn't think GW normally put event models up as a pre-order - independents, of course, are probably free to do as they will in this regard.

 Dysartes wrote:

I didn't think GW normally put event models up as a pre-order - independents, of course, are probably free to do as they will in this regard.

It isn't common, but sometimes they do event models as preorders--but if they do? It tends to be the date listed for the event rather than the week before, and it's basically you just ordering the model.

Independents are usually allocated specific numbers of the models so that's probably why.