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Armouring up a Space Marine probably. Something that was shown in one of the trailers for the first Space Marine game and also potentially the Ultramarines movie.
Gert wrote: Armouring up a Space Marine probably. Something that was shown in one of the trailers for the first Space Marine game and also potentially the Ultramarines movie.
There's been a few more FB posts that say it's a new video (EDIT: TV video, not video game).
Gert wrote: Armouring up a Space Marine probably. Something that was shown in one of the trailers for the first Space Marine game and also potentially the Ultramarines movie.
Already been done well (though not strictly canonically) with Raptor. Not really much they could add.
I'm hoping it's not female SM mainly because I don't want to hear the subsequent shitstorm from the community over both sides of the agreement. My guess is it'd a new SM 9.5 Codex.
Sure, a suit-up video, but... to what end? To announce what?
An actual TV show would be something, but many TV shows cut budget costs by doing at least some parts live action. Doing full 3d is super expensive and time consuming to the level of detail that normal television viewers expect nowadays. If GW thinks that 40k fans are vicious when it comes to picking apart animations, just wait until stuff tries to hit mainstream and ends up getting thrashed by ratings agencies.
If not a video game, my guess would be new stuff on Warhammer+.
Space marine ritual of sending out C&D letters. It will have their Space Marine Lawyers “suiting” up anyone still making videos about their products or using their original designs of circle, square, triangle for other purposes .
Sure, a suit-up video, but... to what end? To announce what?
An actual TV show would be something, but many TV shows cut budget costs by doing at least some parts live action. Doing full 3d is super expensive and time consuming to the level of detail that normal television viewers expect nowadays. If GW thinks that 40k fans are vicious when it comes to picking apart animations, just wait until stuff tries to hit mainstream and ends up getting thrashed by ratings agencies.
If not a video game, my guess would be new stuff on Warhammer+.
They didn’t say it was a teaser, could just be a random “video lore” drop, but you’re probably right in that it will lead to something something WH+.
privateer4hire wrote: Announcing a new price hike to follow the one that hit a few days ago?
Cynical, yet...who am I kidding? You cant be accused of being cynical when it comes to GW. With them, consumer anguish is like nourishing manna. They thrive off of the tears shed at the cash register.
Anyways... the hype train is kinda lackluster when they try to keep us guessing when its likely one of 3 different scenarios.
"Youve never seen a space marine put on their pants like this before!"
"Guess whose getting their limbs cut off and stuffed into a VW beetle with legs? It's you!"
"Spez Mahrins just got new eye tech from the Van Saar's STC! The adepta sororitas will punish anyone caught using their Xray specs on their bodice armor."
I'm guessing an armouring up video from Space Marine 2, the style looks right to me. Doesn't seem like it's being billed as any kind of announcement, just a video, so not expecting anything we don't already know about.
Wiz Warrior wrote: "Spez Mahrins just got new eye tech from the Van Saar's STC! The adepta sororitas will punish anyone caught using their Xray specs on their bodice armor."
One hour to go, preparing to be whelmed and looking forward to the outrage caused by the unshattering, ungroundbreaking revelations we are about receive
I think it was pretty neat, and showed the structure of the armour well. I now want to convert a marine that has taken serious battle damage so that some of these underlying parts are showing.
I expected exactly what I ended up watching, but, you know, it's a Marine getting dressed and about as exciting as it sounds. I'm not going to demand my five minutes back, but I'm not sure what the point of that was. Seems like a really random thing to do and/or release. I guess some people think it's a cool thing to see.
waiting for the "you've now seen how marines get suited up, but they just aren't living up to their hype on the tabletop. Never fear, a new marine codex is around the corner and will return these saviours of the emperor to the stature they deserve" etc.
Its a nice piece in terms of setting (grim pointless ritual and all that) and overall visual and audio quality, but yeah. Kinda loose in the world connected to nothing.
The article half-heartedly tries to tie a War+ advertisement in, but nothing on War+ is that high quality or style of animation, so... yeah.
Very well done. Gave off Astartes vibes, so maybe he played a role in creating this.
My one gripe is the Cherubs. Obviously they don't need to use their wings to float, but they just seemed so slow. Just gliding across the screen and it looked very off imo
Perfectly fine little video, though had it been up to me the time and money would have been put in to something else power armor related. Like a documentary type thing about the manufacturing of a power armor, or an artsy video showing the lifetime of, say, a helmet, from the factory to its many owners and many ways they use it and finally some museum in the distant future.
It seems odd that the article says "This firmly counts as canon", because why wouldn't it? What is it that made them feel the need to say so specifically? It's an official GW thing, that makes it just as canon as all the other stuff they release, but even then I don't think I've actually seen them ever mention or usually care about saying whether something is canon or not before.
Astartes was much higher quality so I'd have to guess no.
You're saying Astartes was higher quality than the armoring video?
Yes, graphically as well as tone and atmosphere, Astartes and Raptor are both better than this (or any other animation GW has ever produced tbh).
I really don't understand your criteria here. Graphically the budget makes a huge difference (and I can't really fault the fan projects for that), but graphically this was flatly superior (and audio as well) with a lot more detail and range of movement.
Tone and atmosphere...? Raptor didn't even try. Just used a modern computer interface and what's essentially modern manufacturing robot arms as an in-universe thing, rather than the elaborate 40k ritual and problems of servitors, you can even see them straining under the weight of the breastplate. Heft and weight are impressive to do in animation.
Astartes barely has any 40k atmosphere. just a run through a relatively undetailed corridor to shoot non-descript enemies (which again, is fine for the limitations of a fan project).
Mentlegen324 wrote: It seems odd that the article says "This firmly counts as canon", because why wouldn't it? What is it that made them feel the need to say so specifically? It's an official GW thing, that makes it just as canon as all the other stuff they release, but even then I don't think I've actually seen them ever mention or usually care about saying whether something is canon or not before.
Maybe the animator sneakily made another video of our sultry soldier taking his armor off again, very slowly, very deliberately, to a recital of the litany of seduction.
It cost GW too much not to release, but somehow they can't bring themselves to acknowledge it either.
Mentlegen324 wrote: It seems odd that the article says "This firmly counts as canon", because why wouldn't it? What is it that made them feel the need to say so specifically? It's an official GW thing, that makes it just as canon as all the other stuff they release, but even then I don't think I've actually seen them ever mention or usually care about saying whether something is canon or not before.
I assume it's just WarCom trying to speak like they're kool and kidz.
Mentlegen324 wrote: It seems odd that the article says "This firmly counts as canon", because why wouldn't it? What is it that made them feel the need to say so specifically? It's an official GW thing, that makes it just as canon as all the other stuff they release, but even then I don't think I've actually seen them ever mention or usually care about saying whether something is canon or not before.
I assume it's just WarCom trying to speak like they're kool and kidz.
And because they're speaking the language of the community for once, there's plenty of narky "it is/not canon fluff11!1!11" types out there about things.
THe whole thing seems pointless to me and a reason why Chaos has been able to win so much over the millennia. The good guys could win more if they learned how to dress themselves quicker . Imagine this on a scale of a whole company, much less a full Chapter getting ready for war. Years will have passed by before the battleforce is ready.
Not to mention I was really waiting for the Marine to stop the ceremonywhen they were putting on the helmet to say he had to use the bathroom
I'd bet the Astartes animator was involved with this. People who say stuff like "But Astartes was waaaay better" are probably just a mix of contrarians who like something non-GW better than something official-GW by default, or the film-illiterate who aren't capable of describing why something is good or bad beyond merely declaring it to be so.
Similarities to Astartes include:
- the loving attention paid to every NOT Space Marine individual who appears, and the way the camera lingers on them
- framing the 'protagonist' of the video in wide, distant shots where the surroundings are as much/more of the focus than him
- a lot of non-verbal characterization by way of body language and movement
- a lot of close-up foregrounded partial heads/shoulders/feet/etc., sometimes with stuff occurring simultaneously in the background
Altruizine wrote: I'd bet the Astartes animator was involved with this. People who say stuff like "But Astartes was waaaay better" are probably just a mix of contrarians who like something non-GW better than something official-GW by default, or the film-illiterate who aren't capable of describing why something is good or bad beyond merely declaring it to be so.
Similarities to Astartes include:
- the loving attention paid to every NOT Space Marine individual who appears, and the way the camera lingers on them
- framing the 'protagonist' of the video in wide, distant shots where the surroundings are as much/more of the focus than him
- a lot of non-verbal characterization by way of body language and movement
- a lot of close-up foregrounded partial heads/shoulders/feet/etc., sometimes with stuff occurring simultaneously in the background
I thought that guy stopped being involved with warhammer entirely because the 40k community kept sending him death threats for working with GW.
Agree on all those points; seemed to me that the Astartes creator was involved, which is a good thing.
This animation is less about the marine, and more about the space, reverance, and other entities involved in a ritualistic baroque process.
I wish GW credited their creators, and everyone involved in their projects- that's the real sin.
They stopped doing that because of the death threats codex writers kept getting. Allegedly.
To be clear, the alleged part is that the reason they stopped was because of the death threats, rather than a way to divest creator control. The death threats were real, constant, and plentiful.
Altruizine wrote: I'd bet the Astartes animator was involved with this. People who say stuff like "But Astartes was waaaay better" are probably just a mix of contrarians who like something non-GW better than something official-GW by default, or the film-illiterate who aren't capable of describing why something is good or bad beyond merely declaring it to be so.
Similarities to Astartes include:
- the loving attention paid to every NOT Space Marine individual who appears, and the way the camera lingers on them
- framing the 'protagonist' of the video in wide, distant shots where the surroundings are as much/more of the focus than him
- a lot of non-verbal characterization by way of body language and movement
- a lot of close-up foregrounded partial heads/shoulders/feet/etc., sometimes with stuff occurring simultaneously in the background
I thought that guy stopped being involved with warhammer entirely because the 40k community kept sending him death threats for working with GW.
Agree on all those points; seemed to me that the Astartes creator was involved, which is a good thing.
This animation is less about the marine, and more about the space, reverance, and other entities involved in a ritualistic baroque process.
I wish GW credited their creators, and everyone involved in their projects- that's the real sin.
They stopped doing that because of the death threats codex writers kept getting. Allegedly.
To be clear, the alleged part is that the reason they stopped was because of the death threats, rather than a way to divest creator control. The death threats were real, constant, and plentiful.
I always feel with these things that a single marine getting armoured up like this in a big cavernous chamber seems unlikely. They'd surely be in cages in squads at the very least. A standard Intercessor like this is very rarely deployed alone. I'm sure you can headcannon it but it feels atypical and less interesting for it, and not quite "industrial" enough.
To those that are speculating on if the Astartes guy has worked on this...
He probably didn't. We know multiple Animation Studios work for GW and this video really resembled the style and animation techniques that both the 9th Edition trailer and the Kill Team trailer showed. The Dutch angles kind of give it away. Probably a seperate studio that solely works on these promotional videos.
It does really mimic the Starcraft 2 trailer. Kind of nice seeing the tonal shift between those two videos side by side.
Segersgia wrote: To those that are speculating on if the Astartes guy has worked on this...
He probably didn't. We know multiple Animation Studios work for GW and this video really resembled the style and animation techniques that both the 9th Edition trailer and the Kill Team trailer showed. The Dutch angles kind of give it away. Probably a seperate studio that solely works on these promotional videos.
It does really mimic the Starcraft 2 trailer. Kind of nice seeing the tonal shift between those two videos side by side.
Yeah very reminiscent of some of the other recent stuff that most definitely wasn't Astartes guy (oversaturated choice of colour palette, no attempt at proper proportions etc).
Theophony wrote:It was good, just not worthy of any hype.
THe whole thing seems pointless to me and a reason why Chaos has been able to win so much over the millennia. The good guys could win more if they learned how to dress themselves quicker . Imagine this on a scale of a whole company, much less a full Chapter getting ready for war. Years will have passed by before the battleforce is ready.
I'd agree that it was overall okay/nice but I think the whole ceremony is part of it. Marines are supposed to be worth a thousand normal human soldiers (or some ridiculous number like that). One maybe should think of them as a small, and walking, one man tank and less as infantry when it comes to the supply lines needed to make them work. Add the need to grimdarkify it and exaggerate it, and you end up with exactly that video.
I always feel with these things that a single marine getting armoured up like this in a big cavernous chamber seems unlikely. They'd surely be in cages in squads at the very least. A standard Intercessor like this is very rarely deployed alone. I'm sure you can headcannon it but it feels atypical and less interesting for it, and not quite "industrial" enough.
That's more or less all I could think about, that somewhere off camera are bunch of Marines in their pants all queuing for a go in the chamber like girls lining up for toilets at a music festival.
Theophony wrote:It was good, just not worthy of any hype.
THe whole thing seems pointless to me and a reason why Chaos has been able to win so much over the millennia. The good guys could win more if they learned how to dress themselves quicker . Imagine this on a scale of a whole company, much less a full Chapter getting ready for war. Years will have passed by before the battleforce is ready.
I'd agree that it was overall okay/nice but I think the whole ceremony is part of it. Marines are supposed to be worth a thousand normal human soldiers (or some ridiculous number like that). One maybe should think of them as a small, and walking, one man tank and less as infantry when it comes to the supply lines needed to make them work. Add the need to grimdarkify it and exaggerate it, and you end up with exactly that video.
I get that, I just don't feel like there would be enough tech adepts on a ship or at a base to perform these rituals fast enough to get a unit prepared for battle. The way I always read the lore it sure was not a 1:1 ratio of tech priests to Marines, So the one priest would be performing the ritual 10 times over just for the one unit. Also I vaguely remember in one of the first Horus Hersey books (I stopped around 35), that the marine was in his domicile cleaning his own wargear and armor. I could see something like this for the first time a Marine gets his armor or is promoted or something, but on a regular basis....No.
I loved it. But then I also love the raptor (thanks for sharing that, I'd not seen it before) and sc2 intro video.
I don't think it was any more over the top than it should be. By which I mean, yes it's over the top, but what were you expecting?
People think of marines as soldiers, but they're not. They are sons of the primarchs, progeny of the immortal God Emperor of mankind, angels of death and symbols of Imperial might.
When they answer the petition of a planetary governor, navy admiral or high lord to take up arms they cross the heavens in mile long strike cruisers and then after months of travel through the hell scape of the immaterium they strike from the skies using orbital drop pods and thunderhawks.
They have had plenty of time to put their pants on!
Thing I thought too was, how often do they do this, we know they wear their armour for whole campaigns. Out side of the monastery or what ever they aren’t often not in armour. So putting it on should be an event. And I imagine there’s more to it too. Blessing all the boat and prepping them and the marine cleansing himself and praying etc. most of all I’m pleased they are making stuff just for the hell of it. (Unless this is part of something bigger and I’ve missed it).
I think I will finally subscribe to Warhammer Plus. If this is the type of high quality production they have behind that paywall, well then maybe it’s time to jump onboard.
privateer4hire wrote: I think I will finally subscribe to Warhammer Plus. If this is the type of high quality production they have behind that paywall, well then maybe it’s time to jump onboard.
I would advise waiting unless you really want this year's minis. I think we'll see more stuff of this quality in the future but they're not there yet. The vault is pretty good though. I never need to buy a white dwarf again.
I haven’t gone through all these comments yet, but..
I assume you’re just gaking on GW because it’s the thing to do.
At most these are on Par.
To say So Much Worse implies a lot more of a variance.
But personally although I like the Raptor one, I’d say this is better. The details on everything and backgrounds and such are all way more intricate. It’s had a lot more time spent on making everything look good.
Overall, yeah pretty enjoyable.
But pointless, I want reveals!
I'm not a known GW detractor, I do so only moderately since they are often deserving, but I maintain my position as a GW fan and all of my expressed opinions on GW and indeed everything else are entirely based.
Nice video, but yes, whelming. I notice that in this and the 'Raptors can't spell armour' video the first thing to put on is the Mk 7 Servo-slippers. :-)
Still, maybe this being "officially canon", is to say that the T'au Exodite (whatever that is) clip showing Warlord Battle Titans using volcano cannons to shoot flying Battlesuits isn't.
privateer4hire wrote: I think I will finally subscribe to Warhammer Plus. If this is the type of high quality production they have behind that paywall, well then maybe it’s time to jump onboard.
Thing is, it's not.
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MarkNorfolk wrote: Nice video, but yes, whelming. I notice that in this and the 'Raptors can't spell armour' video the first thing to put on is the Mk 7 Servo-slippers. :-)
I expect that to be a byproduct of the fact they're aping the same video, the Starcraft 2 teaser, which started exactly the same way:
Astartes barely has any 40k atmosphere. just a run through a relatively undetailed corridor to shoot non-descript enemies (which again, is fine for the limitations of a fan project).
I thought the atmosphere was great. The corridors were very freighter like and reminded me of the years spent playing space hulk in my yoof, helped by the sound and menace. Non descript enemies also fitted the PDF chaff we are often told about. And of course being masked did help animation...
Not to say GW can't do better, but even there with stuff like the exodite they have messed things up by doing stuff like insisting on English being spoken (honestly much of their audience doesn't have it as a first language and regional subtitles would have been so much better).
This is certainly technically superior to stuff like the Inquisitor short with the grey knight arming up, that though seems to have more character in a few little ways, such as the way the servitors wake from dormancy.
I haven’t gone through all these comments yet, but..
I assume you’re just gaking on GW because it’s the thing to do.
At most these are on Par.
To say So Much Worse implies a lot more of a variance.
But personally although I like the Raptor one, I’d say this is better. The details on everything and backgrounds and such are all way more intricate. It’s had a lot more time spent on making everything look good.
Overall, yeah pretty enjoyable.
But pointless, I want reveals!
I'd say they're not too different, but movement and proportions feel a magnitude worse than the Astartes videos. textures and models seem pretty detailed, though.
I haven’t gone through all these comments yet, but..
I assume you’re just gaking on GW because it’s the thing to do.
At most these are on Par.
To say So Much Worse implies a lot more of a variance.
But personally although I like the Raptor one, I’d say this is better. The details on everything and backgrounds and such are all way more intricate. It’s had a lot more time spent on making everything look good.
Overall, yeah pretty enjoyable.
But pointless, I want reveals!
I'd say they're not too different, but movement and proportions feel a magnitude worse than the Astartes videos. textures and models seem pretty detailed, though.
I'd say textures on Raptor are quite superior to this. This had some nice bits - the malignant, almost perished eye of the techpriest, and I appreciated the striations in the synskin, but overall the Raptor textures are appreciably better. I might take some comparison screencaps to illustrate idk.
MarkNorfolk wrote: Nice video, but yes, whelming. I notice that in this and the 'Raptors can't spell armour' video the first thing to put on is the Mk 7 Servo-slippers. :-)
I expect that to be a byproduct of the fact they're aping the same video, the Starcraft 2 teaser, which started exactly the same way:
By aping Starcraft you mean they respect physics, right? Complete power armor supports its own weight. Assembly requires you to either start at the bottom so the mounting weight of the armor doesn't crush the wearer or you need a frame or supports to hold up the pieces you build it around until the armor is complete and can support itself.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Not really sure why they felt the need to hype this up as being something ground breaking.
It definitely wasn't anything special, but they really didn't hype it up all that much. Just teased it a few times the day before. It would have been really weird if they had delayed the reveal and teased it for multiple days, only to reveal a four minute video of a marine getting dressed for work.
Theophony wrote:It was good, just not worthy of any hype.
THe whole thing seems pointless to me and a reason why Chaos has been able to win so much over the millennia. The good guys could win more if they learned how to dress themselves quicker . Imagine this on a scale of a whole company, much less a full Chapter getting ready for war. Years will have passed by before the battleforce is ready.
I'd agree that it was overall okay/nice but I think the whole ceremony is part of it. Marines are supposed to be worth a thousand normal human soldiers (or some ridiculous number like that). One maybe should think of them as a small, and walking, one man tank and less as infantry when it comes to the supply lines needed to make them work. Add the need to grimdarkify it and exaggerate it, and you end up with exactly that video.
I get that, I just don't feel like there would be enough tech adepts on a ship or at a base to perform these rituals fast enough to get a unit prepared for battle. The way I always read the lore it sure was not a 1:1 ratio of tech priests to Marines, So the one priest would be performing the ritual 10 times over just for the one unit. Also I vaguely remember in one of the first Horus Hersey books (I stopped around 35), that the marine was in his domicile cleaning his own wargear and armor. I could see something like this for the first time a Marine gets his armor or is promoted or something, but on a regular basis....No.
Well did video claim this is something marines do one by one to every marine?
Also for speed as mentioned before marines don't get in and out of this all the time so they don't have to do it same rate as our soldiers are getting in/out of combat gear.
MarkNorfolk wrote: Nice video, but yes, whelming. I notice that in this and the 'Raptors can't spell armour' video the first thing to put on is the Mk 7 Servo-slippers. :-)
I expect that to be a byproduct of the fact they're aping the same video, the Starcraft 2 teaser, which started exactly the same way:
By aping Starcraft you mean they respect physics, right? Complete power armor supports its own weight. Assembly requires you to either start at the bottom so the mounting weight of the armor doesn't crush the wearer or you need a frame or supports to hold up the pieces you build it around until the armor is complete and can support itself.
No, I mean they saw it and went "hm, I'd like to do exactly that, but, you know, for a space marine", which is what it feels like. It's nice enough, but it's exactly the same idea ported to the aesthetics of 40k and space marines (disregarding any quality differences), plust they clone a lot of the actual shots of the up armoring, from the armored slippers right down to the closeup to the head and the sudden lowering of the visor.
It's not a problem per se, but it is what it is.
By way of example: many of the scenes where Tony Stark dons the Iron Man armor are also a pretty similar idea from the one in the SC2 teaser, in the sense that it's automated and such, but the feel they give off is very different (which is something that the SM video also does, to some extent) and the actual composition of the shots, setting and everything else is different enough for it to feel distinct.
MarkNorfolk wrote: Nice video, but yes, whelming. I notice that in this and the 'Raptors can't spell armour' video the first thing to put on is the Mk 7 Servo-slippers. :-)
I expect that to be a byproduct of the fact they're aping the same video, the Starcraft 2 teaser, which started exactly the same way:
By aping Starcraft you mean they respect physics, right? Complete power armor supports its own weight. Assembly requires you to either start at the bottom so the mounting weight of the armor doesn't crush the wearer or you need a frame or supports to hold up the pieces you build it around until the armor is complete and can support itself.
No, I mean they saw it and went "hm, I'd like to do exactly that, but, you know, for a space marine", which is what it feels like. It's nice enough, but it's exactly the same idea ported to the aesthetics of 40k and space marines (disregarding any quality differences).
It's not a problem per se, but it is what it is.
It's more than the idea. The idea isn't new, 40K plays on the idea heavily of a knight being armed and armoured by his squires, and furthermore a lot of the Blizz IP (wow and sc2) is known to have taken inspiration from GW IP. In this case though, the Raptor animation appears to be a deliberate unambiguous homage to the SC2 animation, and the new GW one is either homage or a copy whilst simultaneously being the inspiration for both, in a roundabout way.
MarkNorfolk wrote: Nice video, but yes, whelming. I notice that in this and the 'Raptors can't spell armour' video the first thing to put on is the Mk 7 Servo-slippers. :-)
I expect that to be a byproduct of the fact they're aping the same video, the Starcraft 2 teaser, which started exactly the same way:
By aping Starcraft you mean they respect physics, right? Complete power armor supports its own weight. Assembly requires you to either start at the bottom so the mounting weight of the armor doesn't crush the wearer or you need a frame or supports to hold up the pieces you build it around until the armor is complete and can support itself.
No, I mean they saw it and went "hm, I'd like to do exactly that, but, you know, for a space marine", which is what it feels like. It's nice enough, but it's exactly the same idea ported to the aesthetics of 40k and space marines (disregarding any quality differences), plust they clone a lot of the actual shots of the up armoring, from the armored slippers right down to the closeup to the head and the sudden lowering of the visor.
It's not a problem per se, but it is what it is.
By way of example: many of the scenes where Tony Stark dons the Iron Man armor are also a pretty similar idea from the one in the SC2 teaser, in the sense that it's automated and such, but the feel they give off is very different (which is something that the SM video also does, to some extent) and the actual composition of the shots, setting and everything else is different enough for it to feel distinct.
We must have watched different videos. I don't see where you're getting the idea that the 40k video tries to do "exactly that" which is seen in the Starcraft video. The composition is different and the tone is different. Some shots may be similar, but that was my point. There are only so many ways to lower visors. There are only so many ways to get into power slippers. There are only so many ways to counteract the effects of gravity. None of that is evidence of copying. I'd be tempted to go with your comparison and actually place the Starcraft video closer to Iron Man if it wasn't so long since I saw the movies and my memory of the relevant scenes wasn't so hazy. So I'll leave it at that. We should be glad GW didn't try to Re'ynvent the Whyl™ again.
Yes, the idea is exactly the same. But the idea is not "Marine putting on armor". The idea is "suiting up", and has been depicted on screen long before Blizzard even existed. The idea of depicting a 40k Marine putting on his power pajamas also predates Starcraft 2. I'm not ruling out that the creator has actually been inspired by Starcraft, but I think it's highly dubious to trace the idea back to Starcraft with the determination and derision your original statement implies.
Geifer wrote: We must have watched different videos. I don't see where you're getting the idea that the 40k video tries to do "exactly that" which is seen in the Starcraft video. The composition is different and the tone is different. Some shots may be similar, but that was my point. There are only so many ways to lower visors. There are only so many ways to get into power slippers. There are only so many ways to counteract the effects of gravity. None of that is evidence of copying. I'd be tempted to go with your comparison and actually place the Starcraft video closer to Iron Man if it wasn't so long since I saw the movies and my memory of the relevant scenes wasn't so hazy. So I'll leave it at that. We should be glad GW didn't try to Re'ynvent the Whyl™ again.
Yes, the idea is exactly the same. But the idea is not "Marine putting on armor". The idea is "suiting up", and has been depicted on screen long before Blizzard even existed. The idea of depicting a 40k Marine putting on his power pajamas also predates Starcraft 2. I'm not ruling out that the creator has actually been inspired by Starcraft, but I think it's highly dubious to trace the idea back to Starcraft with the determination and derision your original statement implies.
Following todays article it seems to suggest the black carapace literally turns the skin black from the neck down, but that's not how they're normally portrayed is it?
The marine in the video starts out naked with normal skin (but covered in plug sockets like the Sisters Repentia), then he puts on a black skinsuit of some kind, then he dons the armour.
Dudeface wrote: Following todays article it seems to suggest the black carapace literally turns the skin black from the neck down, but that's not how they're normally portrayed is it?
I think you mistake the skinsuit with the black carapace
Yeah - must have picked up the wrong headcannon at some point. It makes more sense for it to be under - it allows for the Larraman's Organ, Melanchromic Organ & Mucranoid to actually function.
Highlights how massively stupid the MkX modular helmet is. There are so many joint seals which could fail at any moment...
There’s nothing to say that isn’t how mk6 and 7 helmets work too. They just didn’t show that capability.
But as always is the case where some one brings practicality into space marine design, none of it makes sense or would work. Not a bit. But it’s great.
Highlights how massively stupid the MkX modular helmet is. There are so many joint seals which could fail at any moment...
There’s nothing to say that isn’t how mk6 and 7 helmets work too. They just didn’t show that capability.
But as always is the case where some one brings practicality into space marine design, none of it makes sense or would work. Not a bit. But it’s great.
For example: the Marine is wearing a nuclear reactor on their back. Shooting that seems like a surefire way to ruin their day, but it never seems to come up.
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. Imagine this on a scale of a whole company, much less a full Chapter getting ready for war. Years will have passed by before the battleforce is ready.
