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Woah woah, it's not the same dude GW uses for literally every 40k voiceover ever. This is big news.

I'd bet the Astartes animator was involved with this. People who say stuff like "But Astartes was waaaay better" are probably just a mix of contrarians who like something non-GW better than something official-GW by default, or the film-illiterate who aren't capable of describing why something is good or bad beyond merely declaring it to be so.

Similarities to Astartes include:

- the loving attention paid to every NOT Space Marine individual who appears, and the way the camera lingers on them
- framing the 'protagonist' of the video in wide, distant shots where the surroundings are as much/more of the focus than him
- a lot of non-verbal characterization by way of body language and movement
- a lot of close-up foregrounded partial heads/shoulders/feet/etc., sometimes with stuff occurring simultaneously in the background

 Altruizine wrote:

Similarities to Astartes include:
*Snip*

Agree on all those points; seemed to me that the Astartes creator was involved, which is a good thing.

This animation is less about the marine, and more about the space, reverance, and other entities involved in a ritualistic baroque process.

I wish GW credited their creators, and everyone involved in their projects- that's the real sin.

 Altruizine wrote:
I'd bet the Astartes animator was involved with this. People who say stuff like "But Astartes was waaaay better" are probably just a mix of contrarians who like something non-GW better than something official-GW by default, or the film-illiterate who aren't capable of describing why something is good or bad beyond merely declaring it to be so.

Similarities to Astartes include:

- the loving attention paid to every NOT Space Marine individual who appears, and the way the camera lingers on them
- framing the 'protagonist' of the video in wide, distant shots where the surroundings are as much/more of the focus than him
- a lot of non-verbal characterization by way of body language and movement
- a lot of close-up foregrounded partial heads/shoulders/feet/etc., sometimes with stuff occurring simultaneously in the background

I thought that guy stopped being involved with warhammer entirely because the 40k community kept sending him death threats for working with GW.

Or was that a different guy?


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 Dr Mathias wrote:

 Altruizine wrote:

Similarities to Astartes include:
*Snip*

Agree on all those points; seemed to me that the Astartes creator was involved, which is a good thing.

This animation is less about the marine, and more about the space, reverance, and other entities involved in a ritualistic baroque process.

I wish GW credited their creators, and everyone involved in their projects- that's the real sin.

They stopped doing that because of the death threats codex writers kept getting. Allegedly.

To be clear, the alleged part is that the reason they stopped was because of the death threats, rather than a way to divest creator control. The death threats were real, constant, and plentiful.

ERJAK wrote:

I thought that guy stopped being involved with warhammer entirely because the 40k community kept sending him death threats for working with GW.

Or was that a different guy?

Last I heard he had been hired by GW to make official (but, sadly, probably uncredited) stuff for them.

However, I also remember hearing about the situation you describe. I think that may be a different content creator?

ERJAK wrote:

 Altruizine wrote:
I'd bet the Astartes animator was involved with this. People who say stuff like "But Astartes was waaaay better" are probably just a mix of contrarians who like something non-GW better than something official-GW by default, or the film-illiterate who aren't capable of describing why something is good or bad beyond merely declaring it to be so.

Similarities to Astartes include:

- the loving attention paid to every NOT Space Marine individual who appears, and the way the camera lingers on them
- framing the 'protagonist' of the video in wide, distant shots where the surroundings are as much/more of the focus than him
- a lot of non-verbal characterization by way of body language and movement
- a lot of close-up foregrounded partial heads/shoulders/feet/etc., sometimes with stuff occurring simultaneously in the background

I thought that guy stopped being involved with warhammer entirely because the 40k community kept sending him death threats for working with GW.

Or was that a different guy?


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 Dr Mathias wrote:

 Altruizine wrote:

Similarities to Astartes include:
*Snip*

Agree on all those points; seemed to me that the Astartes creator was involved, which is a good thing.

This animation is less about the marine, and more about the space, reverance, and other entities involved in a ritualistic baroque process.

I wish GW credited their creators, and everyone involved in their projects- that's the real sin.

They stopped doing that because of the death threats codex writers kept getting. Allegedly.

To be clear, the alleged part is that the reason they stopped was because of the death threats, rather than a way to divest creator control. The death threats were real, constant, and plentiful.

You are thinking of SODAZ

Oh wow! So it wasnt what I expected at all! Oh wait... nevermind. It was.

 Wiz Warrior wrote:
"Youve never seen a space marine put on their pants like this before!"

Yeah, it was fine, just nothing amazing.

I always feel with these things that a single marine getting armoured up like this in a big cavernous chamber seems unlikely. They'd surely be in cages in squads at the very least. A standard Intercessor like this is very rarely deployed alone. I'm sure you can headcannon it but it feels atypical and less interesting for it, and not quite "industrial" enough.

To those that are speculating on if the Astartes guy has worked on this...

He probably didn't. We know multiple Animation Studios work for GW and this video really resembled the style and animation techniques that both the 9th Edition trailer and the Kill Team trailer showed. The Dutch angles kind of give it away. Probably a seperate studio that solely works on these promotional videos.

It does really mimic the Starcraft 2 trailer. Kind of nice seeing the tonal shift between those two videos side by side.

 Segersgia wrote:
To those that are speculating on if the Astartes guy has worked on this...

He probably didn't. We know multiple Animation Studios work for GW and this video really resembled the style and animation techniques that both the 9th Edition trailer and the Kill Team trailer showed. The Dutch angles kind of give it away. Probably a seperate studio that solely works on these promotional videos.

It does really mimic the Starcraft 2 trailer. Kind of nice seeing the tonal shift between those two videos side by side.

Yeah very reminiscent of some of the other recent stuff that most definitely wasn't Astartes guy (oversaturated choice of colour palette, no attempt at proper proportions etc).

Theophony wrote:It was good, just not worthy of any hype.

THe whole thing seems pointless to me and a reason why Chaos has been able to win so much over the millennia. The good guys could win more if they learned how to dress themselves quicker . Imagine this on a scale of a whole company, much less a full Chapter getting ready for war. Years will have passed by before the battleforce is ready.

I'd agree that it was overall okay/nice but I think the whole ceremony is part of it. Marines are supposed to be worth a thousand normal human soldiers (or some ridiculous number like that). One maybe should think of them as a small, and walking, one man tank and less as infantry when it comes to the supply lines needed to make them work. Add the need to grimdarkify it and exaggerate it, and you end up with exactly that video.

Not really sure why they felt the need to hype this up as being something ground breaking.


"And finally, Brother Marine, here is your one magazine of Bolter ammunition. Use it wisely, because it is all we have to give you!"

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not really sure why they felt the need to hype this up as being something ground breaking.


"And finally, Brother Marine, here is your one magazine of Bolter ammunition. Use it wisely, because it is all we have to give you!"

With its whole ten bolts of ammunition! Obviously they can slay a 1000 mortal men with each shot..

I thought it did what 40k does fairly well - evoke atmosphere.

 The Phazer wrote:
Yeah, it was fine, just nothing amazing.

I always feel with these things that a single marine getting armoured up like this in a big cavernous chamber seems unlikely. They'd surely be in cages in squads at the very least. A standard Intercessor like this is very rarely deployed alone. I'm sure you can headcannon it but it feels atypical and less interesting for it, and not quite "industrial" enough.

That's more or less all I could think about, that somewhere off camera are bunch of Marines in their pants all queuing for a go in the chamber like girls lining up for toilets at a music festival.

Nice modern videogame cutscene.

Mario wrote:

Theophony wrote:It was good, just not worthy of any hype.

THe whole thing seems pointless to me and a reason why Chaos has been able to win so much over the millennia. The good guys could win more if they learned how to dress themselves quicker . Imagine this on a scale of a whole company, much less a full Chapter getting ready for war. Years will have passed by before the battleforce is ready.

I'd agree that it was overall okay/nice but I think the whole ceremony is part of it. Marines are supposed to be worth a thousand normal human soldiers (or some ridiculous number like that). One maybe should think of them as a small, and walking, one man tank and less as infantry when it comes to the supply lines needed to make them work. Add the need to grimdarkify it and exaggerate it, and you end up with exactly that video.

I get that, I just don't feel like there would be enough tech adepts on a ship or at a base to perform these rituals fast enough to get a unit prepared for battle. The way I always read the lore it sure was not a 1:1 ratio of tech priests to Marines, So the one priest would be performing the ritual 10 times over just for the one unit. Also I vaguely remember in one of the first Horus Hersey books (I stopped around 35), that the marine was in his domicile cleaning his own wargear and armor. I could see something like this for the first time a Marine gets his armor or is promoted or something, but on a regular basis....No.

The Heresy was before all this stuff was considered sacred and holy, though.

Things have come on since my day. (See pic).


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It did seem a bit much for a single marine but 40k has always been OTT. that’s part the point.

Was pretty damn good. Loved the atmosphere and the cherubim.

The video had a very gothic, holy aesthetic to it. They were worshipping an actual angel of the Emperor as they dressed him.

Loved it!

I loved it. But then I also love the raptor (thanks for sharing that, I'd not seen it before) and sc2 intro video.

I don't think it was any more over the top than it should be. By which I mean, yes it's over the top, but what were you expecting?

People think of marines as soldiers, but they're not. They are sons of the primarchs, progeny of the immortal God Emperor of mankind, angels of death and symbols of Imperial might.

When they answer the petition of a planetary governor, navy admiral or high lord to take up arms they cross the heavens in mile long strike cruisers and then after months of travel through the hell scape of the immaterium they strike from the skies using orbital drop pods and thunderhawks.

They have had plenty of time to put their pants on!

Thing I thought too was, how often do they do this, we know they wear their armour for whole campaigns. Out side of the monastery or what ever they aren’t often not in armour. So putting it on should be an event. And I imagine there’s more to it too. Blessing all the boat and prepping them and the marine cleansing himself and praying etc. most of all I’m pleased they are making stuff just for the hell of it. (Unless this is part of something bigger and I’ve missed it).

I think I will finally subscribe to Warhammer Plus. If this is the type of high quality production they have behind that paywall, well then maybe it’s time to jump onboard.

 privateer4hire wrote:
I think I will finally subscribe to Warhammer Plus. If this is the type of high quality production they have behind that paywall, well then maybe it’s time to jump onboard.

I would advise waiting unless you really want this year's minis. I think we'll see more stuff of this quality in the future but they're not there yet. The vault is pretty good though. I never need to buy a white dwarf again.

JWBS wrote:
So much worse than Raptor

I haven’t gone through all these comments yet, but..

I assume you’re just gaking on GW because it’s the thing to do.
At most these are on Par.
To say So Much Worse implies a lot more of a variance.

But personally although I like the Raptor one, I’d say this is better. The details on everything and backgrounds and such are all way more intricate. It’s had a lot more time spent on making everything look good.


Overall, yeah pretty enjoyable.
But pointless, I want reveals!

I'm not a known GW detractor, I do so only moderately since they are often deserving, but I maintain my position as a GW fan and all of my expressed opinions on GW and indeed everything else are entirely based.

Nice video, but yes, whelming. I notice that in this and the 'Raptors can't spell armour' video the first thing to put on is the Mk 7 Servo-slippers. :-)

Still, maybe this being "officially canon", is to say that the T'au Exodite (whatever that is) clip showing Warlord Battle Titans using volcano cannons to shoot flying Battlesuits isn't.

 privateer4hire wrote:
I think I will finally subscribe to Warhammer Plus. If this is the type of high quality production they have behind that paywall, well then maybe it’s time to jump onboard.

Thing is, it's not.


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MarkNorfolk wrote:
Nice video, but yes, whelming. I notice that in this and the 'Raptors can't spell armour' video the first thing to put on is the Mk 7 Servo-slippers. :-)

I expect that to be a byproduct of the fact they're aping the same video, the Starcraft 2 teaser, which started exactly the same way:

Voss wrote:

Astartes barely has any 40k atmosphere. just a run through a relatively undetailed corridor to shoot non-descript enemies (which again, is fine for the limitations of a fan project).

I thought the atmosphere was great. The corridors were very freighter like and reminded me of the years spent playing space hulk in my yoof, helped by the sound and menace. Non descript enemies also fitted the PDF chaff we are often told about. And of course being masked did help animation...

Not to say GW can't do better, but even there with stuff like the exodite they have messed things up by doing stuff like insisting on English being spoken (honestly much of their audience doesn't have it as a first language and regional subtitles would have been so much better).

This is certainly technically superior to stuff like the Inquisitor short with the grey knight arming up, that though seems to have more character in a few little ways, such as the way the servitors wake from dormancy.

Danny76 wrote:

JWBS wrote:
So much worse than Raptor

I haven’t gone through all these comments yet, but..

I assume you’re just gaking on GW because it’s the thing to do.
At most these are on Par.
To say So Much Worse implies a lot more of a variance.

But personally although I like the Raptor one, I’d say this is better. The details on everything and backgrounds and such are all way more intricate. It’s had a lot more time spent on making everything look good.


Overall, yeah pretty enjoyable.
But pointless, I want reveals!

I'd say they're not too different, but movement and proportions feel a magnitude worse than the Astartes videos. textures and models seem pretty detailed, though.

 Albertorius wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

JWBS wrote:
So much worse than Raptor

I haven’t gone through all these comments yet, but..

I assume you’re just gaking on GW because it’s the thing to do.
At most these are on Par.
To say So Much Worse implies a lot more of a variance.

But personally although I like the Raptor one, I’d say this is better. The details on everything and backgrounds and such are all way more intricate. It’s had a lot more time spent on making everything look good.


Overall, yeah pretty enjoyable.
But pointless, I want reveals!

I'd say they're not too different, but movement and proportions feel a magnitude worse than the Astartes videos. textures and models seem pretty detailed, though.

I'd say textures on Raptor are quite superior to this. This had some nice bits - the malignant, almost perished eye of the techpriest, and I appreciated the striations in the synskin, but overall the Raptor textures are appreciably better. I might take some comparison screencaps to illustrate idk.