How do!

Coming in October.

Puff and waffle here - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/23/celebrate-warhammer-day-with-an-exclusive-miniature-a-painting-competition-and-more/?utm_source=CUSTOMERS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GW_23rd_September_Warhammer_Day_&utm_content=&utm_term=

And the celebrator diorama

I'll be shocked if this isn't a 10th ed announcement and if it is, it's pretty early for it.

Dudeface wrote:
I'll be shocked if this isn't a 10th ed announcement and if it is, it's pretty early for it.

That's fairly unlikely I think. It'll be the right window for the rest of the World Eaters, and maybe they might show off some of the supposed Marine launch coming after and the first of a Psychic Awakening type books.

I like the Emperor's Champion. Bit surprised it's not a model that more chapters can use, but that's way better than the stock model.

That's a great model!

Will be interested to see what they announce. Hoping it's finally the World Eaters...

 The Phazer wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
I'll be shocked if this isn't a 10th ed announcement and if it is, it's pretty early for it.

That's fairly unlikely I think. It'll be the right window for the rest of the World Eaters, and maybe they might show off some of the supposed Marine launch coming after and the first of a Psychic Awakening type books.

I like the Emperor's Champion. Bit surprised it's not a model that more chapters can use, but that's way better than the stock model.

There are 2 books to get out by close of winter, so likely Feb, new editions are historically June/July, so there isn't time for anything else.

In reality to temper my own expectations you're right it'll likely be guard & Angron as they clearly hadn't planned on showing either until now.

 The Phazer wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
I'll be shocked if this isn't a 10th ed announcement and if it is, it's pretty early for it.

That's fairly unlikely I think. It'll be the right window for the rest of the World Eaters, and maybe they might show off some of the supposed Marine launch coming after and the first of a Psychic Awakening type books.

I like the Emperor's Champion. Bit surprised it's not a model that more chapters can use, but that's way better than the stock model.

Back in the day you could use him in any chapter, but that ship has sailed. Chapter locked these days.

It would be nice to have a generally available primaris company champion, or chapter champion.

Dudeface wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
I'll be shocked if this isn't a 10th ed announcement and if it is, it's pretty early for it.

That's fairly unlikely I think. It'll be the right window for the rest of the World Eaters, and maybe they might show off some of the supposed Marine launch coming after and the first of a Psychic Awakening type books.

I like the Emperor's Champion. Bit surprised it's not a model that more chapters can use, but that's way better than the stock model.

There are 2 books to get out by close of winter, so likely Feb, new editions are historically June/July, so there isn't time for anything else.

In reality to temper my own expectations you're right it'll likely be guard & Angron as they clearly hadn't planned on showing either until now.

There are rumours of a new narrative campaign book/books that would introduce missile launcher Primaris and a melta Dread before 10th.

Given it seems like only marines will get new models, then it could be smaller in scope than PA. Three months is definitely enough time for that.

Surprised it's not a Primaris marine.

Santtu wrote:
Surprised it's not a Primaris marine.

It is?

That's a pretty cool model, but I feel like it's an entirely different feel to the artwork. The model just looks so angry and over-the-top with the action compared to the artworks more calm professional vibe.

Absolutely awesome diorama. Now THAT's an Emperor's Champion! I feel rad for the templar, but bad for the Ork, curse you GW for making awesome duels between my two fav factions!

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
That's a pretty cool model, but I feel like it's an entirely different feel to the artwork. The model just looks so angry and over-the-top with the action compared to the artworks more calm professional vibe.

He needs to swap the orc base for a jump pack and a flight stand (as much as I hate those). Guy would rock out as a vanguard vet sarge/jump captain.

Bloody awesome model!

What an amazing sculpt. I'll probably pick it up and convert it to use with my Wolfspear.

Oh man that miniature little duel diorama is something else. Top execution there, full of movement and tension.

 jaredb wrote:
What an amazing sculpt. I'll probably pick it up and convert it to use with my Wolfspear.

Depending on relative sizes, could be used with the FW Alpharius model quite nicely?

Him. I'm thinking at least 2. One to swap in for my crusade force Emperors champion and one to mount on a plinth and paint up as a statue for terrain.

Its a great looking piece, but I'm a bit sad they didn't go for a link to that iconic Crimson Fist scene from the Rogue Trader cover.

The last stand one? They already did that, in metal. I think I still have mine somewhere.

Is it Primaris? It looks firstborn to me, or dats a big 'un ork

 Bonegrinder wrote:
Is it Primaris? It looks firstborn to me, or dats a big 'un ork

It’s Primaris, it has the Primaris backpack and apart from minor details the armour is identical to the normal Emperors Champion. It’s a Nob, so pretty big Ork.

 Bonegrinder wrote:
Is it Primaris? It looks firstborn to me, or dats a big 'un ork

It is clearly a mk X armour, look at the ankle nubs. Orks tend to get chunky

 Mr_Rose wrote:
The last stand one? They already did that, in metal. I think I still have mine somewhere.

Yeah, TBF they've already done that twice.

I think it's a Primaris wearing one of those modified Firstborn armours? Was that not the fluff line for the new EC model?

I really need to stop reading Emperor's Children at first glance. I keep disappointing myself

Also, congrats to Orks everywhere for making it on the anniversary mini !

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
I really need to stop reading Emperor's Children at first glance. I keep disappointing myself

Also, congrats to Orks everywhere for making it on the anniversary mini !

Hey, the ork is the only reason I'm getting this model!

Not that I can't pick up a nice dead ork from Helbrecht's base, but this one is much more dynamic. I appreciate that it's a fully body as well, since the Warhammer World/Store Birthday stormcast that came with dead orruks only had the upper torso.

 The Phazer wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
The last stand one? They already did that, in metal. I think I still have mine somewhere.

Yeah, TBF they've already done that twice.

Fair enough, I must have missed them Any decent pics of them?

Anyone know the artwork it's based on? I can picture it in my head, but I can't recall where I last saw it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Anyone know the artwork it's based on? I can picture it in my head, but I can't recall where I last saw it.

Whilst I like that art, I think the model’s added dynamism adds something.

The art to me kind of looks like the Ork was already down, hence the more deliberate grip on the hilt. The model looks more ‘slice of action’, like the Ork has just lost its footing, and the EC is exploiting the opening?

Absolutely not calling either work of art bad. Just expressing a preference.

I think I can describe it better now.

The model is The Actual Legendary Deed. The artwork is the Stained Glass Rendition of The Legendary Deed.

I’ll tell you this for nowt. If GW don’t give away or sell copies of that art during this event? They want their bumps felt.

It's a cool mini but it's a marine yet again. Also turning Warhammer day into Warhammer 40k day is a bit of a bummer if you prefer everything else gw does.

Since there is now relative parity between the GBP and the Dollar, GW should celebrate their 35th anniversary by reducing prices for product in NA.

 Flinty wrote:
Its a great looking piece, but I'm a bit sad they didn't go for a link to that iconic Crimson Fist scene from the Rogue Trader cover.

There is only one true way to celebrate any Anniversary of 40K; A battle at the Farm box set. The Orks, Fists, farm scenery and Rogue Trader reprint...

...the whole damn thing.

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
I really need to stop reading Emperor's Children at first glance. I keep disappointing myself

Also, congrats to Orks everywhere for making it on the anniversary mini !

You could easily turn this guy into a blessed son of Fulgrim. I'm considering it myself. Remove the dumb ankle balls, switch out the sword for a bladegheist one or something, maybe a head swap, and change the greenskin for a loyalist space marine.

I'm excited for this model even though I don't use Emperor's Champ. It will look good next to my other BT chars on a shelf at least.

If they really want to celebrate 35 years, in addition to the Farm Box @SamusDrake mentioned, they should also make a miniature of Illiyan Natase.

Or re-release the old Iron Claw Squat Hover Car.

Model is kinda nice but I wish it wasn't rehash of already existing mini, but some of dozen missing SM characters. Or Gravis Emperor's Champion, if it really has to be BT locked model. Though, anatomy, proportions, and dynamic pose of this dude just makes all recent FW releases look like utter gak, especially DG dude who is 2/3 legs/pauldrons. There is just no comparison, all recent Primaris releases make old style squats with broken pelvis missing half the spine look good 10-15 years older in comparison...

 Nevelon wrote:
It would be nice to have a generally available primaris company champion, or chapter champion.

There is one, but funnily (or stupidly, really) it's event exclusive too. Hopefully rules will be in next SM book so people can convert their own.

Cleared the crap out and shot the troll, guys and girls in the future can you please just hit the yellow T of friendship rather respond to drivel like that? Makes life a lot easier and it was not even an entertaining troll.
Cheers.

Nice looking diorama, want to do one in BA colours even though I dont collect them.

I'd love to see more ork nobs and bosses resculpted at this level of detail. And not getting killed, obviously

 Irbis wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
It would be nice to have a generally available primaris company champion, or chapter champion.

There is one, but funnily (or stupidly, really) it's event exclusive too. Hopefully rules will be in next SM book so people can convert their own.

I was just looking into him a few days ago.

Marine champions have been part of the marine organizational structure for a while now. We can have a firstborn one, but not a primaris one which is a bit silly. But NMNR. As someone who’s putting together a primaris battle company, the lack irritates me.

And the fact that there is one out there, but exclusive, is salt in the wound.

Is this available to buy for signing up for three more years of warhammer +?

 privateer4hire wrote:
Is this available to buy for signing up for three more years of warhammer +?

Why not try reading the linked article?

That Primaris model looks so much worse than the artwork it's ripping off.

Because I was poking fun.

Chikout wrote:
It's a cool mini but it's a marine yet again. Also turning Warhammer day into Warhammer 40k day is a bit of a bummer if you prefer everything else gw does.

It's the 40k 35th Anniversary, so.....yea?

Could have been its own event rather than co-opting the entire day.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Could have been its own event rather than co-opting the entire day.

Yea, God forbid they celebrate the game and faction that has carried their company for the last 35 years.

 ingtaer wrote:
Cleared the crap out and shot the troll, guys and girls in the future can you please just hit the yellow T of friendship rather respond to drivel like that? Makes life a lot easier and it was not even an entertaining troll.
Cheers.

Get banned from Dakka 2022 Speed Run Champion

I need him. Head swap with a Bladeguard helmet?

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Could have been its own event rather than co-opting the entire day.

Yea, God forbid they celebrate the game and faction that has carried their company for the last 35 years.

Did anyone say otherwise? Give it it's own day, and use Warhammer Day for all the games.

That's what they are doing though? Warhammer day is may. This i# 40k birthday.

Also you do realite whether they show other games here or not amount of stuff you get to see in previews stays the same don't you?

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Could have been its own event rather than co-opting the entire day.

Yea, God forbid they celebrate the game and faction that has carried their company for the last 35 years.

Did they announce LotR day?

No. Why would it? It's not their biggest seller by far.

Should have the WH+ £10 voucher by the 8th of October so might use it on this mini.

Fun mini, I'm a huge fan of GW's fanservice towards these old artworks.
There's so much inspiration to take from them and seeing them as minis is just awesome.
Long may it continue!

JSG wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Could have been its own event rather than co-opting the entire day.

Yea, God forbid they celebrate the game and faction that has carried their company for the last 35 years.

Did they announce LotR day?

Considering how bad RoP is performing, it wouldn't surprise me if the LotR sales did not meet expectations. Which is a shame, because it means the playerbase will not get the attention that the game system needs to flourish.

I think you're putting far too much thought on how the two would intertwine. The game has nothing to do with the period of the show, so crossover would have been minimal anyway.

Agreed, I never expected RoP to have an impact on the LOTR playerbase one way or the other. At this point anyone over the age of 10 has been exposed to Tolkien/LOTR and either likes it or doesn't.

Wait...Entitled Bayard’s Revenge!

This isn't just any model this is that Champion that fell at the Battle of Helsreach fighting alongside Grimaldus against the Orks at the Temple of the Emperor Ascendant.

If I can swing it, I think I want at least two; one to build as-is and at least one more for conversions.
There’s a great monster-slaying theme here and Warhammer has lots of monsters so there’s that, plus if you do replace the Ork with a carnifex or something, you can make a duel of the warbosses or something with the base.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
If I can swing it, I think I want at least two; one to build as-is and at least one more for conversions.
There’s a great monster-slaying theme here and Warhammer has lots of monsters so there’s that, plus if you do replace the Ork with a carnifex or something, you can make a duel of the warbosses or something with the base.

I look forward to seeing an enterprising Ork player remodel it to reverse the roles, and have the Ork standing triumphant over a dead marine.

While I usually refrain from buying GW stuff, this one may buck that trend*... that is if the price isn't the typical GW insanity.





*If just to paint it up to display, I have very little interest in playing modern GW games these days.

This looks a lot better than the 25th anniversary one and it won't be literally made out of Failcast.^{™ ℠ ® ©}

 Sersi wrote:
Wait...Entitled Bayard’s Revenge!

This isn't just any model this is that Champion that fell at the Battle of Helsreach fighting alongside Grimaldus against the Orks at the Temple of the Emperor Ascendant.

Then how is he Primaris, since that event was a minute ago and he didnt survive?

 gigasnail wrote:
Then how is he Primaris, since that event was a minute ago and he didnt survive?

Because everyone is primaris now. Even retroactively. People who are still labouring under the illusion that primaris are just "the next step" in the evolution of space marines and not just a hard reset to make them "tru-scale" are fooling themselves.

 Snrub wrote:

 gigasnail wrote:
Then how is he Primaris, since that event was a minute ago and he didnt survive?

Because everyone is primaris now. Even retroactively. People who are still labouring under the illusion that primaris are just "the next step" in the evolution of space marines and not just a hard reset to make them "tru-scale" are fooling themselves.

Apparently, "Primaris Bayard" first appeared in the Warhammer Combat Card game, though not enough information is given on if its the Helsreach hero reborn. I'm guessing not, though maybe its a spiritual successor, given that he's killing an ork.

Honestly, I was thinking it was that one emperor's champion who got kidnapped by orks in that one black library story.

 gigasnail wrote:

 Sersi wrote:
Wait...Entitled Bayard’s Revenge!

This isn't just any model this is that Champion that fell at the Battle of Helsreach fighting alongside Grimaldus against the Orks at the Temple of the Emperor Ascendant.

Then how is he Primaris, since that event was a minute ago and he didnt survive?

Given that the revenge in question is for the death of Bayard, I suspect that it is not actually Bayard achieving it. I would have thought that it was fairly clear that this was an Emperor's Champion achieving revenge for Bayard, not Bayard himself meting out revenge for his own death. The BT in question might be the bearer of Bayard's geneseed, perhaps...

So for those of us who really like the sculpt but don't have a Black Templar force what's the best way to include this in a mainly primaris diy chapter?

Just a primaris lieutenant?
Something better?

lost_lilliputian wrote:
So for those of us who really like the sculpt but don't have a Black Templar force what's the best way to include this in a mainly primaris diy chapter?

Just a primaris lieutenant?
Something better?

In all seriousness, wouldn’t he be a good captain or chaplain with just a little conversion?

"Epic?"

 Snrub wrote:

 gigasnail wrote:
Then how is he Primaris, since that event was a minute ago and he didnt survive?

Because everyone is primaris now. Even retroactively. People who are still labouring under the illusion that primaris are just "the next step" in the evolution of space marines and not just a hard reset to make them "tru-scale" are fooling themselves.

That would require gw to rewrite space marine sizes though. Space marines been consistently written 7 feet tall which 8 feet primaris don't ft. So gw would need to redo primaris models to be true scale.

They finally got nob sizes right. Hopefully this is how the new nob kit looks.

tneva82 wrote:
That would require gw to rewrite space marine sizes though. Space marines been consistently written 7 feet tall which 8 feet primaris don't ft. So gw would need to redo primaris models to be true scale.

No, it doesn't require them to do anything to the space marine law. You're not rescaling their in universe height, only the model size.

 privateer4hire wrote:

lost_lilliputian wrote:
So for those of us who really like the sculpt but don't have a Black Templar force what's the best way to include this in a mainly primaris diy chapter?

Just a primaris lieutenant?
Something better?

In all seriousness, wouldn’t he be a good captain or chaplain with just a little conversion?

Depending on how much conversion you want to do.

Right now he’s got a fancy sword and a bolt pistol. Some extra stuff hanging from his belt and purity seals.

Assuming Primaris.

Chaplains are out unless you replace the sword.
Primaris captains don’t have just a sword and pistol option. (insert NMNR rant here)
You can do a straight WYSWYG Lieutenant. MC power sword and pistol.
If you swap his bolt pistol out for an absolver bolt pistol, he’d make a good Judiciar. Pistol is a bit small for the role, but that sword can pass for an executioner relic blade. Fits the model better.
Floating around the internet are the rules for the limited release primaris company champion. He wouldn’t have a pistol, but is a good stabby marine.

 Snrub wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
That would require gw to rewrite space marine sizes though. Space marines been consistently written 7 feet tall which 8 feet primaris don't ft. So gw would need to redo primaris models to be true scale.

No, it doesn't require them to do anything to the space marine law. You're not rescaling their in universe height, only the model size.

If you claim primaris are suddenly space marnes of old then 8 feet primaris model are too tall to be considered true scale.

Id you claim otherwise then first borns were true scale all the time as modei height is irrelevant. Grot can be true scale space marine

tneva82 wrote:

If you claim primaris are suddenly space marnes of old then 8 feet primaris model are too tall to be considered true scale.

No! 38mm Primaris models are scaled to be about seven feet compared to 32mm normal humans. Stop repeating this BS and do the maths.

 Crimson wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

If you claim primaris are suddenly space marnes of old then 8 feet primaris model are too tall to be considered true scale.

No! 38mm Primaris models are scaled to be about seven feet compared to 32mm normal humans. Stop repeating this BS and do the maths.

40k is a 28mm game.

Aecus Decimus wrote:

40k is a 28mm game.

"28 mm scale" used to refer the height of model's eyes. Older GW's humans indeed were of that height, making the actual models about 30mm tall. The current normal humans however are at least couple of mm taller.

 Nevelon wrote:
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Primaris captains don’t have just a sword and pistol option. (insert NMNR rant here)

Did you forget this guy?

^ Yes, the model exists, but infuriatingly the rules do not allow that weapon combination!

Bizarre! Simple FAQ missing it seems.

In fairness, I did forget that guy.

Just reinforces my dislike of the way GW is doing wargear options these days. Plasma pistol/power sword has been the iconic captain loadout since forever, and the only way to have it is to seek out limited models and hope they have a rules pamphlet allowing it. And even it it is in the codex, we get Byzantine datasheets allowing only specific combos. Sigh. I didn’t want to do a NMNR rant, but here we are. Sorry, one of my hotbutton issues.

And to be pedantic to the point of counts-as for this model, that’s a plasma, not a bolt pistol. Although I give that it’s a trivial counts-as/WYSWYG for a holstered pistol to be whatever you paid the point for.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bizarre! Simple FAQ missing it seems.

You say that, but it's more down to the ultra-dippy Captain rules that we're in this situation.

Would it kill them to just put a list and points values and be fething done with it...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bizarre! Simple FAQ missing it seems.

You say that, but it's more down to the ultra-dippy Captain rules that we're in this situation.

Would it kill them to just put a list and points values and be fething done with it...

I had literally written “Insert H.B.M.C picture of convoluted dataslate here” in my post above, but decided to edit it out.

 Nevelon wrote:
In fairness, I did forget that guy.

I find that quite understandable. You know, I like to think that I pay attention to GW releases, even limited models I wouldn't be able to get for one reason or another. But I don't think I've seen that captain before.

 Geifer wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
In fairness, I did forget that guy.

I find that quite understandable. You know, I like to think that I pay attention to GW releases, even limited models I wouldn't be able to get for one reason or another. But I don't think I've seen that captain before.

I’m pretty sure he’s from the serial magazine collection. Hopefully his rules will make their way into the next codex. I’m not going to track down the official model, but it’s pretty easy to kitbash primaris captains. I could always use a few more.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bizarre! Simple FAQ missing it seems.

You say that, but it's more down to the ultra-dippy Captain rules that we're in this situation.

Would it kill them to just put a list and points values and be fething done with it...

'If you're not equipped with a master-crafter power sword then you can replace your weapons with a master crafter power sword and a pistol dodad...'

Love it!

 Nevelon wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
In fairness, I did forget that guy.

I find that quite understandable. You know, I like to think that I pay attention to GW releases, even limited models I wouldn't be able to get for one reason or another. But I don't think I've seen that captain before.

I’m pretty sure he’s from the serial magazine collection. Hopefully his rules will make their way into the next codex. I’m not going to track down the official model, but it’s pretty easy to kitbash primaris captains. I could always use a few more.

I see. I guess a magazine model would be one least marketed by GW directly.

Good luck with the next codex, I guess.I can't see GW suddenly abandon the no model, no rules nonsense (nor move away from assorted other insanity less easily described in a short phrase).

Bayard avenged then.

Perhaps Cawl has built a tardis pattern flux capacitator so he can go back to the armageddon conflict with primaris.

Actually, if it resulted in plastic models for Armageddon steel legion, I would probably say "fine, whatever you say GW"

 Fayric wrote:
Perhaps Cawl has built a tardis pattern flux capacitator so he can go back to the armageddon conflict with primaris.

Actually, if it resulted in plastic models for Armageddon steel legion, I would probably say "fine, whatever you say GW"

Yeah, but if they did that, why would they make Steel Legion instead of putting all that plastic towards Kronophlux Pattern Primaris Interventors?

 GiToRaZor wrote:

JSG wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Could have been its own event rather than co-opting the entire day.

Yea, God forbid they celebrate the game and faction that has carried their company for the last 35 years.

Did they announce LotR day?

Considering how bad RoP is performing, it wouldn't surprise me if the LotR sales did not meet expectations. Which is a shame, because it means the playerbase will not get the attention that the game system needs to flourish.

Got a source for the claim regarding how RoP is performing, out of interest?

One of the problems with these streaming shows is that it is always tricky to get an idea how they've done in terms of viewership.

I reckon LotR stuff always sells well outside of the usual 40k/AoS gaming communities, people who just love the setting and collect some to paint, maybe game. The fact that they keep releasing sets I think shows this to be the case, otherwise they would just 'do a warhammer fantasy'

On topic the special release mini is pretty cool. They have already done a Rogue Trader cover marine, but perhaps they could have had a bit more fun with it. Squats have been re-released and brought things full circle, why not have a Votann chewing on a cigar and holding a anti-grav board or something (ref the old artwork), could have had him stood over the body of a Slann to really get the community doing 360s!

 Pacific wrote:
They have already done a Rogue Trader cover marine, but perhaps they could have had a bit more fun with it. Squats have been re-released and brought things full circle, why not have a Votann chewing on a cigar and holding a anti-grav board or something (ref the old artwork), could have had him stood over the body of a Slann to really get the community doing 360s!

A modern re-imagining of Sister Sin and the Rainbow Warrior would have been pretty hype.

There's a designer interview article on Warhammer Community:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/28/designing-bayards-revenge-how-this-stunning-commemorative-miniature-came-to-life/

Nice to see the model has a helmet option.



I wonder about this part, though:

I felt he also deserved a bare head, a nod to the first Emperor’s Champion, Sigismund.

Is that because the face resembles art or Sigismund's 30k model, or because Sigismund is portrayed as a dimwit who doesn't wear a helmet to battle?

That helmet is awesome. Why couldn't the stand alone kit have a helmet that cool? At the very least, they should have made the laurel part of the helmet and not floating above it. This one looks 100x better

It's not a bad look. I like the traditional helmet a little better, both the first limited edition one's and the following Emperor's Champion's. But I'd gladly take this one as well. And agreed, that floating laurel on the normal Primaris one is just stupid.

I wonder if you'll be able to make the model without the ork. It appears as though the sword might be complete and not terminate where it enters the ork.

At a guess I'd say that's an illusion created by a wide wound to allow some of the sword inside the body to show. I don't think it will have a tip but a flat end that sits flush against the flat bottom of the wound. Would be neat if the sword turns out to be complete, though.

I couldn't make it out in the video very well, but if my suspicion is correct and depending on where the inscription ends, you might be able to cut down the blade to get a tip without losing part of the inscription and making the sword look dodgy in the process.

Helmet looks great but kind of feel sorry for the Ork... I mean so much graphic violence in 40k. Think about the kids GW!

Troke's new favourite models teased next Saturday
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/30/celebrate-warhammer-day-with-a-monster-warhammer-40000-online-preview

The Black Adder wrote:
I wonder if you'll be able to make the model without the ork. It appears as though the sword might be complete and not terminate where it enters the ork.

If you buy it and decide not to use the ork, let me know

The Black Adder wrote:
I wonder if you'll be able to make the model without the ork. It appears as though the sword might be complete and not terminate where it enters the ork.

If it's like helbrecht, the sword fits into a recess on the orks torso.

Unsure of the validity of this, quality fake if it is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/xsvkci/_/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Dudeface wrote:
Unsure of the validity of this, quality fake if it is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/xsvkci/_/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Obvious fake.

It’s a very good conversion of Calgar with a mediocre paint job.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Unsure of the validity of this, quality fake if it is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/xsvkci/_/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Obvious fake.

It’s a very good conversion of Calgar with a mediocre paint job.

Yup looks like it might be, genuinely forgot about Calgar there!

Here's my slightly whacky prediction linked to most of the starter set artwork (as well as weirdly the ultramarine 2nd edition codex artwork) in that preview.

Like the 3rd edition box set, they will make all the old edition box sets available for made to order over the next year... In addition, maybe some of the old codex's, especially the lore heavy 2nd edition codex's.

Wouldn't that be fun? 2nd ed starter set, 20 Marines, 20 Orks, 40 Gretchin. 80 models repeating a total of five and a half sculpts, all for the bargain price of 225€.

And no, you're not going to get the cardboard Dreadnought. Don't even ask. GW doesn't make cardboard components in house and an external printer only cuts into their profits.

 Geifer wrote:
Wouldn't that be fun? 2nd ed starter set, 20 Marines, 20 Orks, 40 Gretchin. 80 models repeating a total of five and a half sculpts, all for the bargain price of 225€.

And no, you're not going to get the cardboard Dreadnought. Don't even ask. GW doesn't make cardboard components in house and an external printer only cuts into their profits.

2nd box would be dope. The books included there were great with detailed weapon descriptions. Can´t have this nowadays: "NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THIS!"

2nd was a highpoint for fluff and setting, but those starter box models were a bit lacking.

They did a 3rd ed starter MTO a little bit back

4th had some good stuff. Basic tac squad, downed flyer, and some fun nid bits.

Bang for buck, the 5th ed starter was a great box. And one i missed picking up.

6/7th suffered from being chapter locked on the loyalist side to DA, so less general appeal. Chaos was nice looking, no idea how well it holds up with modern rules/sculpts.

8th seems to recent to talk about nostalgia reprints, but the marine side was a solid core of an army. Can’t speak for the DG.

 Geifer wrote:
Wouldn't that be fun? 2nd ed starter set, 20 Marines, 20 Orks, 40 Gretchin. 80 models repeating a total of five and a half sculpts

I can already see the "MONOPOSE FROM GW AGAIN ?!?!!" complaints

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Wouldn't that be fun? 2nd ed starter set, 20 Marines, 20 Orks, 40 Gretchin. 80 models repeating a total of five and a half sculpts, all for the bargain price of 225€.

And no, you're not going to get the cardboard Dreadnought. Don't even ask. GW doesn't make cardboard components in house and an external printer only cuts into their profits.

2nd box would be dope. The books included there were great with detailed weapon descriptions. Can´t have this nowadays: "NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THIS!"

Those were mostly copied from the Battle Manual book from 1st edition. The models were... not what I would call good. And several of those Blanche sketches really looked like they were drawn on the floor in one day (read it somewhere he really did).

Recreating the old starter sets with their current equivalent sculpts as small vs boxes would be fun.

30k beakies vs recent ork sculpts would be dope!

I'd certainly be up for buying some MTO Rogue Trader plastics or even 2nd Edition minis. Just an MTO run for the Rogue Trader reprint rulebook directly on the GW website would be something.

I absolutely doubt there would ever be a re-run of any of the previous starter boxes, or 2nd edition or later rulebooks.
2nd had I think three or four books in the starter box, besides a half dozen different templates and datafax cards and then there's the entirely separate Dark Millennium box which had the rest of the vehicles and psyker rules as well as a whole separate card system.

Ignispacium wrote:
I'd certainly be up for buying some MTO Rogue Trader plastics or even 2nd Edition minis. Just an MTO run for the Rogue Trader reprint rulebook directly on the GW website would be something.

I absolutely doubt there would ever be a re-run of any of the previous starter boxes, or 2nd edition or later rulebooks.
2nd had I think three or four books in the starter box, besides a half dozen different templates and datafax cards and then there's the entirely separate Dark Millennium box which had the rest of the vehicles and psyker rules as well as a whole separate card system.

Correct. It was most value for your money. As I said the books were terrific. Also don´t forget the wargear cards.

I'd love to see some WHFB starters brought back on MTO when/if The Old World materialises.

4th-8th were all fantastic and have my favourite takes on some units.

A thought occurs.

We’ve already had Rogue Trader reprinted, albeit as a WHW exclusive. Wonder if we might see a Print to Order announced?

i'd heard some discussion about print to order when China started to fail to deliver in a big way, apparently GW just wasn't satisfied with the printing fidelity/reproducible colour balance offered

(i've a variety of print to order books and while it's good to have a hard copy they aren't as good as a well done traditional printing, especially for colour plates so i'd have to agree with GW there)

and i'd guess they might be wary of having the files more out in the wild than they'd be at a traditional printer too

Interesting painting guide for 1st edition Orks just dropped on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrPIRZE4Yv8
Wonder if there will be a Crimson Fists one to go with it?

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Interesting painting guide for 1st edition Orks just dropped on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrPIRZE4Yv8
Wonder if there will be a Crimson Fists one to go with it?

One of the upcoming Warhammer + Battle Reports shows Orks battling Crimson Fists, so place your bets.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Interesting painting guide for 1st edition Orks just dropped on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrPIRZE4Yv8
Wonder if there will be a Crimson Fists one to go with it?

Very neat! Not really sure what about this screams Rogue Trader era, but a cool video tutorial all the same.

I'm struggling to see the Rogue Trader-ness of that paint scheme, but it's not a bad looking finished mini.

I've just received an email that this week's Warhammer+ Battle Report is a modern update of the Battle for the farm - so Crimson Fists vs Orks, but they look to have painted the armies in the same, retro-ish, scheme.

Didn’t we have an image about that? The marines use the mk6 bodies

 GaroRobe wrote:
Didn’t we have an image about that? The marines use the mk6 bodies

This one, right?

 Prometheum5 wrote:
I'm struggling to see the Rogue Trader-ness of that paint scheme, but it's not a bad looking finished mini.

Yeah, where's the Goblin Green base?

 Scottywan82 wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Interesting painting guide for 1st edition Orks just dropped on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrPIRZE4Yv8
Wonder if there will be a Crimson Fists one to go with it?

Very neat! Not really sure what about this screams Rogue Trader era, but a cool video tutorial all the same.

I guess it's mostly the clothing in blue and brown and the red-white face-painting. Sure, it doesn't scream Rogue Trader, but there're some hints.

I feel it’s time, is it time? It’s time.

Time to speculate on the reveals coming on Saturday.

Fruit hanging so low a Squat wouldn’t need to stretch?

Rest of World Eaters and Imperial Guard.

Medium height pendulous fruit?

More Marines of some stripe. Possibly Primaris jump stuff.

Fruit so high you’d need a ladder?

10th Ed shown off in some capacity. Seems soon for release schedule, but who knows.

I think we'll definitely see the Kasrkin in more detail, hopefully a hint of their opponent and far more importantly, what the next bit of Gallowdark terrain looks like.

We should have the next season for 40K after Nephilim too shouldn't we?

Bit of nostalgia/some stuff about store events - World Eaters full reveal - Most of the Guard - New Season and road map for Q1 2023 - Kill Team would fill an hour if they're around 10min each.

It does feel a bit like should have more of a hint about what's coming next year.

My educated guess would be more World Eaters and Imperial Guard reveals, contents of the next big Kill Team box (all signs pointing to Kasrkin vs. ???), road map of next books, a random Space Marine or Black Library model of some sorts, MAYBE a 10th Edition teaser but really just a teaser, no models or anything.

Though I don't know how much sense it makes to unveal a new edition now, when there are apparently Votann, Guard and World Eaters codices still to sell...

At this point, I don't think we're seeing Kasrkin as part of a Gallowdark set. It just feels way, way, way too soon for it when they're billed like this:

If we assume September to September is how far they want it to stretch? We'd likely see 4 months between boxes...which puts the next box in January assuming they skip over December like they usually do
I do think we're going to see a rotation of the "starter set" in January alongside of the next Gallowdark set though. Put in the KT: Rogue Trader and Pariah Nexus scatter scenery and a bit of the Into the Dark scenery for flavor, bam. Job's a good one.

If rumors pan out, I'd expect the Guard Army Set to get showcased.

Oh yeah, and I'm expecting an announcement at some point of a bunch of new or resculpted character models as release fillers next year.

There is no 10th ed until Adepticon or Warhammer Fest. If GW were inclined to share a look into what they'd consider the far future, I'd expect a campaign book or short series that paves the way for 10th ed. But presented as an exciting development in 9th ed, not a sign of a new edition.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Prometheum5 wrote:
I'm struggling to see the Rogue Trader-ness of that paint scheme, but it's not a bad looking finished mini.

Yeah, where's the Goblin Green base?

2nd edition had goblin green bases and bright colours, RT didn't really have that until the tail end.

 Geifer wrote:
There is no 10th ed until Adepticon or Warhammer Fest. If GW were inclined to share a look into what they'd consider the far future, I'd expect a campaign book or short series that paves the way for 10th ed. But presented as an exciting development in 9th ed, not a sign of a new edition.

But the event happening this Saturday *is* Warhammer Fest. It's just all devoted to 40k this year.

EDIT: Never mind. Completely confused Warhammer Day and Warhammer Fest

I wonder if there are going to be any special offers this year? Last year they had a good discount on Nurgle Start Collecting sets, Warcry scenery and number of other things.

 crumby_cataphract wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
There is no 10th ed until Adepticon or Warhammer Fest. If GW were inclined to share a look into what they'd consider the far future, I'd expect a campaign book or short series that paves the way for 10th ed. But presented as an exciting development in 9th ed, not a sign of a new edition.

But the event happening this Saturday *is* Warhammer Fest. It's just all devoted to 40k this year.

EDIT: Never mind. Completely confused Warhammer Day and Warhammer Fest

It leads to an interesting thought, though. When Games Day was resurrected as Warhammer Fest, I believe they were also in the middle of rebranding GW stores to Warhammer stores to capitalize on the stronger brand recognition. Games Day as a name was a joke in the latter days of Kirby, but these days with all the specialist games GW is doing again it wouldn't be a bad name for the event.

If they'd had the foresight, bringing back Games Day as Games Day and introducing Warhammer Fest as the big thing in the other half of the year might have been a better choice just for clearer branding.

jullevi wrote:
I wonder if there are going to be any special offers this year? Last year they had a good discount on Nurgle Start Collecting sets, Warcry scenery and number of other things.

It's certainly going to be interesting to see as a repeat would indicate that it was a success for GW. Last year's deals had a clearance vibe to them. Makes you wonder what they might put up this year.

Games Day for me will now forever be a relic memory. Right age, right place, right time. Coach full of nutters off to indulge their hobby for the day.

Even if all of that is brought back, and a new generation of gamers get that experience? For me it will never be the same experience.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Games Day for me will now forever be a relic memory. Right age, right place, right time. Coach full of nutters off to indulge their hobby for the day.

Even if all of that is brought back, and a new generation of gamers get that experience? For me it will never be the same experience.

Yeah, there's no sense in going back to Games Day now. That would only imply there was something wrong with Warhammer Fest, and GW wouldn't want that perception out there. The time for it would have been the moment it was brought back, and that ship has sailed.

They do need to increase capacity on the seminars though! They’re usually my favourite part - though in the modern day some of their exclusivity has gone due to internet age.

And to be fair, I’ll never miss the utterly inane questions put to the panel. Including having a go at them over prices (which they don’t set) hearing a question be answered “no”, then rephrasing that question, expecting a different result.

Well, the important thing is that the seminars exist and people can still ask for the return of Squats. The loss of that really stung when GW canned Games Day.

Article on the history of 40k:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/06/warhammer-day-35-years-of-only-war/

That's right, some idiot decided we need a model for Girlyman when they could have used that plastic to redo the Halfling Cook. What a waste!

Just over two hours to go. Now is the time to make sure you’ve got tea and biccies, and indeed milk for your tea.

Welp, I have so many ridicolous expectations about this that it's quitely possible everything will go wrong

Garrac wrote:
Welp, I have so many ridicolous expectations about this that it's quitely possible everything will go wrong

Well if it’s not a plastic thunder hawk or a 40k lion model I may just quit and sell all my models!

People always go into these with high expectations. Which is a bit understandable, as the GW media folks always hype it as the biggest things ever.

Go in with reasonable expectations, knowing the PR flacks have over hyped it and the whole thing is more enjoyable.

No wolves on Fenris wrote:

Garrac wrote:
Welp, I have so many ridicolous expectations about this that it's quitely possible everything will go wrong

Well if it’s not a plastic thunder hawk or a 40k lion model I may just quit and sell all my models!

What low expectations you have. My disappointment will be boundless unless it's the Lion surfing on that Thunderhawk and Doomrider jumping over his head, all of which is mounted on curved novelty flight stands that attach to completely unforeseen places.

Although if we really have to settle for mediocrity (again), then at least I hope they won't dwell on all the World Eater and Cadian stuff we've already seen and focus on new stuff. Maybe show the new Imperial Guard tank. I'd be interested to finally see it.

Well if I don’t get my undefined, barely conceived demands met by this, I’m not going to sell my army.

I’m going to burn it. To a hip hop soundtrack. Because I’m just that gangsta.


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Well if I don’t get my undefined, barely conceived demands met by this, I’m not going to sell my army.

I’m going to burn it. To a hip hop soundtrack. Because I’m just that gangsta.

 Geifer wrote:

No wolves on Fenris wrote:

Garrac wrote:
Welp, I have so many ridicolous expectations about this that it's quitely possible everything will go wrong

Well if it’s not a plastic thunder hawk or a 40k lion model I may just quit and sell all my models!

What low expectations you have. My disappointment will be boundless unless it's the Lion surfing on that Thunderhawk and Doomrider jumping over his head, all of which is mounted on curved novelty flight stands that attach to completely unforeseen places.

Although if we really have to settle for mediocrity (again), then at least I hope they won't dwell on all the World Eater and Cadian stuff we've already seen and focus on new stuff. Maybe show the new Imperial Guard tank. I'd be interested to finally see it.

And a Primaris lieutenant

No wolves on Fenris wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

No wolves on Fenris wrote:

Garrac wrote:
Welp, I have so many ridicolous expectations about this that it's quitely possible everything will go wrong

Well if it’s not a plastic thunder hawk or a 40k lion model I may just quit and sell all my models!

What low expectations you have. My disappointment will be boundless unless it's the Lion surfing on that Thunderhawk and Doomrider jumping over his head, all of which is mounted on curved novelty flight stands that attach to completely unforeseen places.

Although if we really have to settle for mediocrity (again), then at least I hope they won't dwell on all the World Eater and Cadian stuff we've already seen and focus on new stuff. Maybe show the new Imperial Guard tank. I'd be interested to finally see it.

And a Primaris lieutenant

We’ll obviously get a primaris lieutenant based off the original RT lieutenant.

If this isn't an announcement about 100% free rules that are perfectly balanced from day one and entirely in line with my extensive rants on Reddit, then I might just have to make an angry YouTube video. That will show them.

Also the new models need to be solid gold and with 90's pricing.

I bought a Bayard, seems decent value compared to many 40K character models (since it's two guys instead of one and can be bought third party).

I thought it started at 8 EST, not 9, so Im very very sad.

The good news is that ideally I can hit up my FLGS today, buy a Bayard and get a free cursed city model

Any second now…we begin 15 minutes of waffle!


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Definitely a very strange choice in music.

Have they finally dispensed with the rambling, useless, painfully dull intro? Stream seems to be starting now, 2pm on the dot (first one I've caught in a while)

/Oh God, no, seems they're telling us the first models they bought.

Got it playing on my Big Fancy Telly. I am hoping to be at least whelmed.

JWBS wrote:
Have they finally dispensed with the rambling, useless, painfully dull intro? Stream seems to be starting now, 2pm on the dot (first one I've caught in a while)

/Oh God, no, seems they're telling us the first models they bought.

The rambling intros are useful for them to make sure everything is working and give people time to log in and get in. Those 15mins are setting things up before the main show and event begins so that everyone is on board; rather htan getting started at 2pm and trying to start with amazing videos and having connection problems, audio or other issues or just not having everyone logged in at once (not to mention a surge of users appearing all at once is just the thing to make any streaming service servers got a little nutter for a few moments)



Also reminds me that I STILL need to get a 2nd edition Tyranid Codex to complete my set

I’ve got one

Just missing…erm…Orks, Angels of Death and Space Woofs.

Necrons confirmed

That's untrue, they can set everything up off-air, as is standard with Twitch (the site has been around since circa 2010 and almost all other broadcasters know how to use it) but I've argued this before so I won't bother to do so again.

Is the embedded player missing for anyone else on the Community page?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Is the embedded player missing for anyone else on the Community page?

It's there and working for me right now

Must be an issue from my browser getting updated. Urgh...gotta use Twitch.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Is the embedded player missing for anyone else on the Community page?

Same here. First time it ever happened :(

New Cadians??

Very very nice. Superb to see them better scaled.

Ihmygod

CADIA STANDS!

That looks awesome for Imperial Guard fans! Massive update to a lot of older plastics!!

Cadia Set content:

Codex
2 Shock troops sets
1 Walker (built as regular or heavy)
2 Heavy weapon sets (including new weapon option)
1 Command stand set

Who was saying that the Heavy Weapons Squad was gone? Well... they were wrong

Ordnance battery rocks!
(at least Twitch is working for me)

Cadian's look great. Nice update, superior models that remain faithful to the originals. That Sentinel has the same aesthetic as the original with that cockpit and legs too, different to the potato pic version we saw.

So….where is this leaving the IG Rumours?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So….where is this leaving the IG Rumours?

Pretty inaccurate, I'd say.
I guess the leaker saw that one picture that did get leaked and thought that was all Cadians were getting.

I don't think anyone said we'd get an updated shock troop set

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So….where is this leaving the IG Rumours?

Really accurate.

Liking the field artillery. Feels like filling a gap I’d never really noticed before. Mind you, I’ve never played Guard so my opinion there is frankly worthless.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So….where is this leaving the IG Rumours?

Pretty inaccurate, I'd say.
I guess the leaker saw that one picture that did get leaked and thought that was all Cadians were getting.

I don't think anyone said we'd get an updated shock troop set

Yep, we did. Back on B&C.

Field Artillery looks great.

Glad to see all the people saying HW Teams were going away were full of it.

Nice to see the HW squad is a straight glow-up of the existing one.

And no doubt a price increase but welcome to GW.

Commissar is…dull. It’s a nice sculpt, but seems more like a kit bash.

So far everything is a major improvement and looks great - besides the Commissar, which is a staggeringly boring sculpt.

Scout Sentinel is really great! Saw option will be a must for Catachans

 Asmodai wrote:
Field Artillery looks great.

Glad to see all the people saying HW Teams were going away were full of it.

So we're clear, it was said that they're not in the Cadian Shock Squad and it was confirmed that's the case.

Sentinels are gorgeous. Necessity of a redo of an already pretty decent kit….unsure.


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 Kanluwen wrote:

 Asmodai wrote:
Field Artillery looks great.

Glad to see all the people saying HW Teams were going away were full of it.

So we're clear, it was said that they're not in the Cadian Shock Squad and it was confirmed that's the case.

Whilst not up on the rumours, I think we can put this one down to The Telephone Game type distortion of the message.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nice to see the HW squad is a straight glow-up of the existing one.

And no doubt a price increase but welcome to GW.

Commissar is…dull. It’s a nice sculpt, but seems more like a kit bash.

That's what it is. I usually like non-action characters, but that guy looks like he was built out of the spare bits from the superheavies and tanks. I've made a couple characters that way myself.


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They're previewing rules? Weird.

The Sentinel looks bigger than the current one, I wonder it there's other drivers they haven't shown yet. Commissar is dull the rest look great.

I hope that the new Comissar has more weapons in his kit as well as more heads.

Tedious for those of us that don't play but I suppose some people might be enjoying this light sniff of rules.

Oooh! More to see? Exciting. Now…get on with it!

The codex cover clearly has something they haven't shown yet on it.

Abaddon weaponising Space Hulks? Interesting.

I’ve got loads of Zone Mortalis terrain, easily enough for a 6x4 board. Maybe this will get me back gaming?

Dark Mechanicum? The anti-Cawl? Is that the mysterious ally?

ZOAT Chaos?





Who knows - but the Arks sounds interesting and its neat to hear about the idea of making Spacehulk stuff and include all factions and make it way more than just termies and stealers

Voss wrote:
Dark Mechanicum? The anti-Cawl? Is that the mysterious ally?

looked like

Looks like Valrak might be on the money. A named Demon Prince was one of the characters he said was on the way.

I remember when you got 20 Guardsmen for £25. :p

But damn these new models are great.

So this is gonna be feeding into 10th Ed, I guess. Like Paycheck Awakening, but ideally with more background content.

 Overread wrote:
ZOAT Chaos?





Who knows - but the Arks sounds interesting and its neat to hear about the idea of making Spacehulk stuff and include all factions and make it way more than just termies and stealers

If someone has all the time in the world, could do an integrated BFG-40k-Kill Team. Do a Kill Team game to resolve Hit and Run attacks. A 40K scale game to represent a full scale boarding action.

Ooh. New base set. (it says something that I'm most excited about that, though I worry that we will never see larger bases in the same style)


And a bigger terrain set of the Gallowdark terrain. Glad I waited. Still not sure I want it though. This reminds me a lot of 'Cities of Death' style supplements, and those didn't last long enough to bother.

That does look like a proper choncc of a scenery set.

That scenery is going to be amazing for Dark Heresy and Inquisitor 28mm too.

So the rumour was true.

That last rushed image from arks seemed like it maybe showed some new minis?

Shadowvaults looks really effing cool!

Shadowvault is going to be super amazing for the IG - Necrons are slightly less amazing as they seem to be fancy regular infantry with one or two newish bits

Well, I was wrong. But holy hell those Kasrkin.

I missed the video. Is the cryptek in the set that "exclusive" one? Or is it another one?

 GaroRobe wrote:
I missed the video. Is the cryptek in the set that "exclusive" one? Or is it another one?

It looks a little different, they are covering the IG models right now, which look awesome

So... Kasrkin, heh.

That's a very mixed unit of necron... stuff. Which gives me questions about the current immortal/sniper box.

Same terrain as Gallowdark?

Video is ongoing.

Wow, colour me impressed with those new Guard. They look good enough that I don't mind that they are Cadians. It also looks quite easy to kitbash.

Look more like the older IG which I like.

Wow. Yeah, the appren-tek is just a slightly reskinned "exclusive" cryptek.

:/

Wow, those Necrons look cool!

It's the same Crytek model - with a cohort of newer addons that are kind of expanded - eg two little plasmacytes

The rest seems to be an upgrade kit for the regular sniper/heavyweapon immortals. Eg different heads for snipers


Overall feels nice for the Necrons, but this is very very much an amazing set for the IG. To be fair Necrons have had a LOT as of late, surprised they didn't use this to add one of the existing heroes getting a plastic release as that's almost all that remains of the old range in need of an update

Those veteran rules make me sad for Chaos Chosen.

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Ah, I see. Its a cryptek unit sprue, the current immortal box and an upgrade sprue.


Couple extra terrain frames. Meh- not even worth showing off.

Scenery Stuff is almost certainly coming to a Necromunda Campaign near me!

That saw unit is my favourite from the set.

I guess it would be funny to have the apprentek mirror his master, but its still primaris levels of laziness

Juggernaut chariot.

"invocatus" is a weird name for a berserker riding a juggernaut thing. Sounds more like a sorcerer

No no no….what was that behind the champion.

Just in the background. Kinda looked like Juggers yoked up to something….

Chainsaw horn!

Juggernaut's front horn blade wasn't enough so it's a chainblade as well.

Somebody rolled 'face of a bloodletter' on his Chaos Rewards chart.

Unspecified kit options.

Invocatus looks awesome. Love the helmet.

Wasn't the rumor that he was flying?

 GaroRobe wrote:
Invocatus looks awesome. Love the helmet.

Wasn't the rumor that he was flying?

Maybe he can jump really high

'Cheeky tease'-

Oh, yeah. That's definitely dark mechanicum related.
Did one of the big names in the mechanicum ascend to a daemon prince during the Heresy?

Wait, I thought they said there’d be more IG shown off?

Oh well. Daemon Gribbly thing looks wicked, and resolves a Rumour Engine or two.

Missed the reveal of the Commissar but it's just gone up in the preview article. Er, yeah, that's a disaster. The rest of it is 10/10 and brings GW up to date with all the great third party Guard proxies that are out there these days

They showed off the Kasrkin as part of Shadowvault.

Another over-hyped fairly weak preview when it comes to amount of reveals. Everything shown is excellent, but there actually isn't that much of it...

Complete world eaters line should have been shown imo.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Wait, I thought they said there’d be more IG shown off?

There was a vague might (I think because they were running behind), but they did say this was about half of the releases.
Though obviously the Kasrkin qualify as more IG shown off.

I don't love the kneepads that are apparently sewn in to the trousers, if I were to nitpick - I'd have liked to see some straps holding them on or something, big lumps of metal flopping around in the regimental laundry machines must be a nightmare

Darn it GW that teaser monster should be a Lictor a LICTOR!!! Darn it not some insane melting of machine and flesh and chaos with blades and spikes!1




Overall really solid reveals - IG are getting a fantastic update of their core and all those models look really fantastic. Lot of optional parts, decorative parts, mult-weapon kits and more.


The new Expansion sounds good, solid way to make a Space Hulk experience into the core game and I really hope it brings some fun games to the table.

Necron stuff feels ok if a little lacking; kind of more like an upgrade pack in feel than a solid update. However Necrons have had a lot over the last few years so its not like they are sore for new shiny things to play with.

New Juggernaught looks fantastic and the hints of perhaps dark mechanicus are going to be torment for me as that's a really cool theme for Chaos that I think could look utterly outstanding on the tabletop.







I think my only crit is that it didn't really feel much like they celebrated the past of 40K much. A lot of talk about 35 years, but the only bit was a bit of "these were my first models" at the start. Kinda wish/felt they could have done more than two guys chatting about the past for 15mins on that front. Granted it would have been "filler" for those just here for new model reveals; which were always going to be the big highlight; but it would have been nice for a little more history feel

Billicus wrote:
Missed the reveal of the Commissar but it's just gone up in the preview article. Er, yeah, that's a disaster. The rest of it is 10/10 and brings GW up to date with all the great third party Guard proxies that are out there these days

It's a generic Commissar, likely intended to be used for the Elite slot rather than the HQ slot.

Looks way, way better than the garbage Lord-Commissar or the Officio Prefectus one.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Another over-hyped fairly week preview when it comes to amount of reveals. Everything shown is excellent, but there actually isn't that much of it...

Yeah, I expected more models to be shown.

Billicus wrote:
I don't love the kneepads that are apparently sewn in to the trousers, if I were to nitpick - I'd have liked to see some straps holding them on or something, big lumps of metal flopping around in the regimental laundry machines must be a nightmare

They just look like current US military ones. Shrug.

The Cadian stuff looks excellent, apart the commissar. It still is super weird though that they very recently did an upgrade sprue for the old kit.

 Overread wrote:

I think my only crit is that it didn't really feel much like they celebrated the past of 40K much. A lot of talk about 35 years, but the only bit was a bit of "these were my first models" at the start. Kinda wish/felt they could have done more than two guys chatting about the past for 15mins on that front. Granted it would have been "filler" for those just here for new model reveals; which were always going to be the big highlight; but it would have been nice for a little more history feel

Going to be honest, that old berserker on juggernaut was on screen for way too long. I wanted to look at the good new kit, not the old trash (that's made even worse in comparison).

35 years was an odd excuse to do a Guard preview show. Burning more time on it would have just been painful- I don't really need to reflect on bad purchase decisions from my tween/teen years.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

Billicus wrote:
I don't love the kneepads that are apparently sewn in to the trousers, if I were to nitpick - I'd have liked to see some straps holding them on or something, big lumps of metal flopping around in the regimental laundry machines must be a nightmare

They just look like current US military ones. Shrug.

Unless there's some I've not seen that feature big lumps of metal appliqued on to the outside of the trousers, not really

Love the new IG stuff, kinda dread what the price of an army of them will be with all new models though!

 Kanluwen wrote:


Looks way, way better than the garbage Lord-Commissar or the Officio Prefectus one.

Aside from the prefectus one which was still fairly characterful just oddly proportioned, I'd say this is comfortably the weakest Commissar they've ever put out

 GaroRobe wrote:
I don't think anyone said we'd get an updated shock troop set

We saw them months ago. They were leaked and were obviously not the current models.

I agree, may actually be worst ever Commissar.

Ooof... that was a lame "celebration" of 35 years of 40k.

Repeating the article that they put up on WarCom two days ago.

Revealing Guard that had already leaked, bar the awesome new arty kits. Didn't even show off the new tank (assuming such a thing exists). Not even showing off the Codex.

Necrons get a character most Necron players already own, and an upgrade kit that's somehow even more of a low effort than this.

A terrain box for terrain that's already out, and bases. Woo!

And half the Zerkernaut kit; not even showing off the special character side of the kit.

Weird, I like the new Commissar.

That's a really nice reveal for Guard. I actually like everything. Better poses, better proportions all around, lots of interesting details and they even changed the design of the derpy helmets.

Can't wait to see the hot Dark Mechanicus she-priest wielding the long unresolved rumor engine hammer.

Gotta say I really like the new IG. They did fix the proportions and made them look like actual humans. The Commissar is the only real outlier that looks off for some reason.

Oh shiny bases. I want some.

No nids?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Didn't even show off the new tank (assuming such a thing exists).

Well, of course not. I wanted to see it, so they were bound not to show it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not even showing off the Codex.

Well, of course not. The codex cover shows the new tank that I wanted to see, so they were bound not to show it.

Tank is on the box, it must be the Lord-Solar.

Is that actual suspension on the bottom?

Not sure if I’d be bummed if I win the “everything shown off” this time.

I mean. Free stuff is free stuff. And free is everyone’s favourite price. But…erm…winning this one would feel a bit Sod’s Law all the same.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Oh shiny bases. I want some.

No nids?

No eldar either. Or tau. Or sob. Or...

Not everybody gets models in reveals.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ooof... that was a lame "celebration" of 35 years of 40k.

Could have been worse. They could have reprinted the 2E box set, made the models within it tournament-illegal, and charged a $1000 for it.

Anyway, I'm hoping this Arks of Omen thing could be a way to bring back Battlefleet Gothic. But hope is the first step...

Oh, and I didn't see if someone else said it yet, but since these new Cadians have kneepads, does that mean they have carapace armor now? For all those who remember that old argument.

So…am I actually going to be able to buy Bayard or did I miss that?

tneva82 wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Oh shiny bases. I want some.

No nids?

No eldar either. Or tau. Or sob. Or...

Not everybody gets models in reveals.

Well unlike the clear Nid shadow on the last arrow image... the silhouette of those are not on the Warhammer community event reveals with the text...

"There was one more reveal at the end, but it went a little… odd. Can you guess what’s coming soon to the 41st Millennium?"

Hence the question.

The whispers in the void thing looks a lot like Kerrigan…

 godswildcard wrote:
So…am I actually going to be able to buy Bayard or did I miss that?

1pm EDT is when preorders go up.

 NAVARRO wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Oh shiny bases. I want some.

No nids?

No eldar either. Or tau. Or sob. Or...

Not everybody gets models in reveals.

Well unlike the clear Nid shadow on the last arrow image... the silhouette of those are not on the Warhammer community event reveals with the text...

"There was one more reveal at the end, but it went a little… odd. Can you guess what’s coming soon to the 41st Millennium?"

Hence the question.

It’s Chaos, not a nid.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
So…am I actually going to be able to buy Bayard or did I miss that?

1pm EDT is when preorders go up.

Gotcha. Thanks!

Dark Mechanicus?!

Some people in chat were insinuating that this partner to Abbadon might be Peter Turbo, but I think it's clear from the silhouette shot that this is going to be a new character leading a new iteration of the Dark Mechanicus. In the teaser we had negavolt cultists (?) on the bottom, so this is likely an expansion along that line. The repurposing of derelict Space Hulks also fits with that. Maybe the end goal of this campaign is to summon the demon primarch...

I really am curious if Dark Mech is coming. 3 new armies at the end of the edition for 40k seems pretty nuts.

Maybe Dark Mech will lead into 10th? Could easily see a new army like that being the starter faction with some models leading up to it?

Quite like the Imperial Guard stuff, but I feel something is a bit odd about their proportions. I can't figure out what it is though.

Some of the stuff I would have liked to have seen something similar for the Votann instead, mainly the field caps and Ordinance Battery.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Love the new IG stuff, kinda dread what the price of an army of them will be with all new models though!

More than it should be.

 bullyboy wrote:
That last rushed image from arks seemed like it maybe showed some new minis?

Ok, I’m losing my mind. I went back to try and find this image but cannot locate the snippet they showed (must have been removed?). It was such a quick glimpse of models that looked to be in robes right before it blacked out. This is driving me nuts.

Oh no! Valrak was right about the contents of the IG box and the Abaddon book and the named Daemon Prince. It's just clickbait right? A lucky guess? Kinda obvious picks if you think about it...

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Quite like the Imperial Guard stuff, but I feel something is a bit odd about their proportions. I can't figure out what it is though.

GW cut down on oversizing parts. They don't have extra large heads, hands or feet. They also seems to have more natural poses than GW usually does. Might be any of that?

We got some of the same on Battle Sisters, too. And they're not the only example either. It seems like GW is easing up on some longstanding traditions of late.

Which is a move I personally like.

Cool minis but disappointed they didn't do anything tangible with the anniversary side of it.

Would have been cool to get a made/print to order run on old starters and classic books or something along those lines.

 Eldarain wrote:
Cool minis but disappointed they didn't do anything tangible with the anniversary side of it.

Sure they did. They went through the pictures from the WarCom article and restated what the article said.

Such history. Much reverence. Wow.

Not intrest in cadians, I wanted kreig.

Jugar lord looks weird like he is missing a midsection or somthing.

Dark mechanicum looks interesting.

Second kill team set of the season dosent seem to hold much value? A reprint of into the dark terrain so quickly? Looks like they are expecting karsikins to carry the box set. Wich I think is a mistake we were told the kill team sets would tie together not be a repeat of the same terrain that's just lame.

Exsited for the lion since valrak was right.

Even only seeing the silhouette, I just know that that Dark Mechanicus model is going to be perfect for a grimdark paint job.

The Lord Invocatus looks great, though I do for the helmet horns a bit ridiculous. I'm wondering if the models behind it are new Skullcrusher-type units for the World Eaters, or just regular Bloodcrushers that we already have.

A very blurry shot of the imperial codex ltd edition cover. A horse?

That's the other part that has miffed me a bit... They've not shown many models really, well units... And we know there are more in their locker, they should have revealed all of the AM stuff, as well as all of the world eaters.

New guard looks fantastic. Might just pull the trigger on starting up a Cadian army. That and my Orks will love to make use of those artilleries somehow…

I can't believe I'm saying this but the new IG looks fantastic

Haha 'Apprentek'. Nice joke name. You almost had me going there for a minute...

So, I went to the GW store and ordered Bayard.

Apparently he was $45 USD, not $35. I probably should have checked, but I kinda though $35 would have been fitting given the anniversary...

Oh well. I got a free Vargskyr for the mini of the month, so I'll say its a win.

Vargskyr is the best model from CC set so yep I'd say that's a very solid win!

 GaroRobe wrote:
So, I went to the GW store and ordered Bayard.

Apparently he was $45 USD, not $35. I probably should have checked, but I kinda though $35 would have been fitting given the anniversary...

Oh well. I got a free Vargskyr for the mini of the month, so I'll say its a win.

The EU won the anniversary lottery. We get to pay 35€ if we're so inclined.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
That's the other part that has miffed me a bit... They've not shown many models really, well units... And we know there are more in their locker, they should have revealed all of the AM stuff, as well as all of the world eaters.

That's certainly an interesting expectation. What previous preview show in the last couple years gave you the idea that they would do that?

You actualy get some good shots of the dark mechanics thing. it also looks like it has 2 buuilds, one with hammer and more traditional head, one in blue looks like it has a staff it is clutching

its claw and hammer are from rumour engines






Edit- also looks like horse skull head like the 30k era mechanicum dude

I totally forgot there was a reveal show coming today. Now that I've seen it, I have to say bravo on the Cadian redesigns! The new models are lightyears apart from the old constipated midgets.

With enough DKoK, Karskin and now these Cadian sprues, you could make very cool looking Guard armies.. assuming the old FW resin vehicles ever get to cross the Rubicon Plasticaris, that is..

I hope the new guard kits are compatible with traitor ones. Just had some problems fixing them on the old models

Oh interesting. I can definitely see the horse skull head. Maybe it's a bird skull

But I can also interpret it as a zombish looking head that's turned towards us.

Love the Commissar model. It just screams character despite not doing anything for once.

I take full credit for the Dark Mech character coming by the way. I just converted a Tech Priest Dominus to be more Chaosy which was a project I had in mind for years and then typically this preview happens

The Juggernaught Lord will never be a satisfying to hold as the original. What a beautiful weighty hunk of metal.

btw i love this lady and i want her to take that chainsword and pull it through my *******

Watch your language please - ingtær.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So this is gonna be feeding into 10th Ed, I guess. Like Paycheck Awakening, but ideally with more background content.

Well as we all know - the only thing different about GW is that they have a Facebook page.

Following player feedback from across the community, this series won’t include extra rules for standard games of Warhammer 40,000. You’ve told us that you don’t want to juggle army rules spread over multiple books. No worries – we hear you.

I love the field artillery and new sentinel. What a bummer that I collect Catachans. With nice new models like these I might be tempted to revamp my grunt squads. Hope GW releases new Catachans in a few months as well.

It's the zombie face version, there's a brief shot in Wade Price's bit introducing the Arks.

 Strg Alt wrote:
I love the field artillery and new sentinel. What a bummer that I collect Catachans. With nice new models like these I might be tempted to revamp my grunt squads. Hope GW releases new Catachans in a few months as well.

You may get what you wish for.


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But I have to really wonder do we get Krieg related support suqads, kinda weird if we have perfectly good squad kit but nothing else.

 Strg Alt wrote:
I love the field artillery and new sentinel. What a bummer that I collect Catachans. With nice new models like these I might be tempted to revamp my grunt squads. Hope GW releases new Catachans in a few months as well.

With all of the special (what was it 3, maybe 4?) Catachan characters I was convinced they were somewhere in the pipeline. Looks like I may be wrong. Like you, big fan of the new artillery and heavy weapons for the Cadians as well, which is a shame in itself as I'm willing to drop a good chunk of change on anything that is compatible with the plastic Krieg troopers. Guess I'll have to splurge on a few kill teams instead, then!

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So this is gonna be feeding into 10th Ed, I guess. Like Paycheck Awakening, but ideally with more background content.

Well as we all know - the only thing different about GW is that they have a Facebook page.

Following player feedback from across the community, this series won’t include extra rules for standard games of Warhammer 40,000. You’ve told us that you don’t want to juggle army rules spread over multiple books. No worries – we hear you.

Or, once run through the corporate doublespeak translator

Following people extensively pirating the tiny amount of relevant content to their faction in these books , we've noticed a decline in our sales. Therefore we've decided to repackage our DLC into different sections that will either get no traction with the playerbase (like every other "alternative" play expansion ever) or will be invalidated by the imminent next edition.

 Azreal13 wrote:

Following people extensively pirating the tiny amount of relevant content to their faction in these books , we've noticed a decline in our sales. Therefore we've decided to repackage our DLC into different sections that will either get no traction with the playerbase (like every other "alternative" play expansion ever) or will be invalidated by the imminent next edition.

So...piracy works!

Witholding money from organisations that like money works. Piracy is a methodology.

Ordered bayards revenge for the ork hopefully I can do somthing with that beauty of a nob model

I am surprised they didn't do something a bit more with the 35th.

Heck, even if they had added the 2nd Ed Codex Imperialis and Wargear book to the Warhammer+ Vault that would have been something...

I think it was a bit tight not showing the Guard tanks and Rough Riders tbh. It felt odd given the entire range presumably ships before the World Eaters. The new Cadians look really nice though.

I do wish there were more Krieg models coming. Was really looking forward to some heavy weapon teams.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Well as we all know - the only thing different about GW is that they have a Facebook page.

Do you practice being disingenuous?

The Cadians are nice, the new chap on Juggernaut is nice... and that is it. A very underwhelming reveal/celebration. No real call back to the 35 years of 40k, nothing about these reveals indicates this momentus occasion... they could have been a regular standard reveal.

Would have been great to have seen a modern take on the deodorant stick converted into a anti grav tank from Rouge Trader.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Tank is on the box, it must be the Lord-Solar.

Good lord that box art is atrocious. Kitchsy fantasy art with odd proportions and over the top imagery works when it's hand done, but digitally its just an abomination.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I do wish there were more Krieg models coming. Was really looking forward to some heavy weapon teams.

Ditto.

I mean, I don't hate the Cadian stuff, but I don't really see me buying any of it if there's a chance they're going to do a proper DKOK release.