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okay so after watching faaaaar to many vietnam movies ive decided to divert some funds into doing an air cav army if anything it would look awesome might use rules for valkaries to represent the hueys, so if anyone has any ideas of scale (ill be mixing catachans and a few cadian sprues for my .nam style vets) other than the standard 1/35 for uber heroic 40k scale, or cheaper hueys then please help me out guys
oh and one more thing were does kid kyoto get his lovely modern weapons from??

right so far ive got these two options (your input hugely welcome)

the cheaper £16 acadamy huey
http://www.relishmodels.co.uk/academy-1-35-uh-1c-huey-gunship-special-nose-art-edition.html

or the £30 dragon huey
http://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/dragon-uh1d-huey-3538-p-10534.html

cheers dakka

It's my oppinion as well as many others that 1/48 scale is closer to 28mm scale. 1/48 scale should save some $$$ on models. I think Revel & Monogram both make Huey models in that scale. I would also like to see your finished product when your done, being I was a flight status Crew Chief on Hueys for about 6yrs.

1/48 would give you a better size and scale match for them. 1/35 or so helos tend to be around the 40-50cm long range (around the same length as a thunderhawk, btw).

!/48 is cheaper as well. You can use sentinel crew as pilots (that fit in quite well) - with cadian helmets.

Revell and Monogram both do kits in that size, so does Tamiya. 1/35 is also a ground vehicle scale. Many helicopters and aircraft larger than 1/48 tend to be in 1/32 scale, and this is larger again.

People say 1/48 is closer to 28mm which i think is true, if your dealing with historical in proportion 28mm figures, however i tend to find games workshop plastics bulky so personally i would go with with 1/35 and the fact they are big is only going to make it much cooler in my opinion.

Sorry you need to revisualise. 1/35 Hueys have more chance of looking stupid than cool.

This is an IG army, if they are being used as 'counts as' Valkyries you will need a lot of them. So 10 squads means 10 'Thunderhawk' sized transports for them, oh and add the rotors to that..

I recommend 1/48 scale for aircraft.

A Huey is about 57 feet long including the rotor overhang. That makes it 19.5 inches (49.6cm) long in 1/35 scale. It will be about 14 inches long in 1/48.

A Baneblade is only 22.5cm long! (Nine inches.)

1/35 works well for tanks.

28mm scale is truly about 1/60. The 'heroic' proportions of GW figures make them look much bigger.

There is a bigger variety of aircraft in 1/48 and a bigger variety of vehicles in 1/35 scale kits.

@shrew cheers im going to use the revel huey uh-1 it look epicly cool

@kilkrazy thanks for hte scale workin outs man i still wasnt sure about scale untill you hamered it out with real measurements

alright now a £7:19 transport i CAN do http://www.modelsupermarket.com/product/RE04476.htm

Top Tip for choosing models.

Look up the vehicle or plane on Wikipedia and get the basic dimensions of length/width/height.

Divide by the model scale to find out the size of the built up kit.

E.g. a Chieftain tank is 7.5m x 3.5m x 2.9m

In 1/35 scale the model will be 20.6cm x 10cm x 8.3cm.
(7.5 x 100 / 35, and so on.)

In 1/48 scale the model will be 15.6cm x 7.3cm x 8.1cm.

You can also calculate from the model up.

E.g. say a model kit is specified to be 122mm long in 1/48 scale.

In 1/35 scale it will be 122 x 48 / 35 = 167mm long.

righto, oh does anyone know wich imperial armour the valkerie is in?? also, im of to start buying then

You could use 1/72 if you are using Huey models as a base for conversions. You would need to model them extensively to descale them, but hen you would no longer have Hueys. I imagine Huey rotors, skis and tails and box shaped Imperialesque main chassis.

The advantage is that they will be more convenibntly scaled for the tabletop not to mention cheaper.

Give me a ring if you've got IA questions, man.

I'm excited for this, get some pics up of your army when its presentable!!

as for me...i'm just gonna wait for some plastic Valkyries !! lets hope its not too long a wait!!

ow sure are we about the "valkaries will be in the new ig codex??"

also *orders away!!*

the valks are in IA1. armour of the imperial guard and navy. are you planing to keep the choppers as they are or gona modify then at all to fit in more with 40K?

I had always thought that the Cadian and Catachan minis weren't the same scale. Those catachans (at least the plastic ones) are HUGE.

The Cadians fit well with Necromunda bits. I'd check out the Van Saar head sprue for sure.

odinsgrandson wrote:I had always thought that the Cadian and Catachan minis weren't the same scale. Those catachans (at least the plastic ones) are HUGE.

the catachan are the same scale as the cadian model. If you place both model side by side, it doesn't look out of scale

catachans are the well muscled vets, fighting in the jungles, they are, simply put the guy in nam who spent the whole time killing the hell out of everthing and sceaming AAH ROIDS!!

Anyway, don't use 1/72 scale models. They will look too small compared to GW figures.

1/27 works well with 20mm figures.

right the orders finally donew 5 x 1/48 scale huey shoud be arriving in oooh.. 2-3 days im wondering weather to grimdark them or just buy some etched brass aquillas and leave it to the paint job... hmm... whats the general oppion of the etched brass kits??

Forgive me I'm not sure what you mean by "grimdark" (I probably know it by another name) As for brass etch kits, I've used a few for my scale models. (planes & cars) Mainly ones of gauge dial faces for instrument panels & such. Those were made by independant "backyard" type makers, so quality was hit or miss @ best from manufacturer to manufacturer. I would assume that FW would have better quality control.

jamessearle0 wrote:...wondering weather to grimdark them...

...wondering weather to 40k-ify them...

brass ectch isnt really that expensive either hmm thanks for the feedback mate

ooo i cant wait for the hueys to arrive now

I used to have four Hueys and two Cobras for my 20mm Vietnam platoon.

FWs brassetch are made in china, like many other manufacturers'. The quality is about the same as the old verlinden Gmbh stuff (pretty damn good).

*update*

hueys arrived today ill pick them up from the post office tomorry, should have one built and online for tomorro night

We're looking forwards to it!

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought it would be IG rough riders mounted on mini helicopters (now there's an idea ) But an airborne IG army is a nice, doable concept, good luck

*update*

hey guys sorted out the weapon fits on the huey (one neerly complete) its got rocket pods, im gunna create custom heavy bolter door gunners from catachan heavy weapon teams (kneeling legs) but i dont know what to do for the multi laser mount, the huey has an optional "hog" addon in the box (a nose mounted grenade laucher)
but ...it doesnt look right when added, not quite like a huey any more...so pleeease help me out



oh and with reference to the photo its only blury and poor quality because its for scale.

Well, the scale looks perfect! Now you see that you were right to choose the 1/48 scale helicopters.

Can you give us a picture of the nose-mounted grenade launcher? I've seen the Cobra attack helicopter with a chin turret but I'm not familiar with the Huey having one.

no kilkrazy YOU were right to choose the 1/48 scale helicopters thnaks again

as requested

You gonna paint those any or leave them as they are?