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This, in my humble opinion, represents the "correct" size for 40k-scale titans.

Images were taken from the Apocalypse rulebook, the Emperor datasheet, Forge World, and my living room.
For titans without a known height (ie those that do not yet exist at this scale) height was determined by overlaying the warhounds provided in each image for comparison and adjusting the size until they matched up -
so in theory the warhound, warlord and emperor titans should be scaled properly to each other.
Taking the height of the warhound as about 10", or about 140 pixels, heights for the other two could be determined. Heights for the others were taken from the Forge World website.


This is, of course, only a rough guide, but I hope it might prove useful, or at least interesting.

For titans compared to real-life buildings, see this post.
For a comparison with Metal Gear, see this post.

Cool comparison. Where does the Reaver fit into this? How much taller than a warhound/shorter than the next biggest one?

The reaver is about 16" tall, according to Forgeworld. I'll add it to the next version!

The Imperitor is too small. Scaled it would be about up to your shoulder.

there were 2 or so other titans that are missing.

Tere is one called a Warmonger. It stood roughly to the Imperitors shoulder

I don't see a Reaver titan in there, which was roughly in between the warhound and the warlord.

Wrong. Assuming the scale comparison in the recent datasheet is correct (and since GW made it, it is) the imperator titan is sized correctly, relative to the warhound. And the size of the warhound is about 10".

Image updated.

The epic Imperator titan was not much larger than the warlord. He maybe should add a few inches, but hardly all the way up to his shoulder.

EDIT: Dreadnote beat me to it. Also, if I remember correctly, the Warmonger was just an Imperator Titan with different weapons. (Missiles instead of the hellstorm cannon I think, and something else instead of the Plasma Annihilator.)

Correct. The Warmonger is just another Emperor Class Titan variant(the only 2 known Emperor class variants are Imperator and Warmonger). Warmongers are for long range support and only appear shorter than the Imperator variant of Emperor Class(the use the same chassis) due to their spires being replaced with larger defense lasers.

The Dreadnote wrote:(and since GW made it, it is)

So you're trusting the word of a company that on a daily basis changes their mind on what happend in their own made up make believe world?

Foda_Bett wrote:

The Dreadnote wrote:(and since GW made it, it is)

So you're trusting the word of a company that on a daily basis changes their mind on what happend in their own made up make believe world?

Well he should, considering the scale comparisons he's showing are accurate when you compare the actual Epic models and extrapolate based on the fact that the Warhound and Reaver both exist in 40K scale.

Speaking of Warmongers and Imperators, I've noticed that the Data Sheet for the Emperor Class Titan lets you do all sorts of evil hybrid configurations.

While it drops all the point-defense weapons, and half-assed stuff like the battlecannons and AA autocannon batteries, which admittedly would be outrageous in a Warhammer 40k setting, it lets you take lots of Titan weapons instead.

Two Vengeance Cannons, with six Laser Blasters. Fun!

Nurglitch wrote:Speaking of Warmongers and Imperators, I've noticed that the Data Sheet for the Emperor Class Titan lets you do all sorts of evil hybrid configurations.

While it drops all the point-defense weapons, and half-assed stuff like the battlecannons and AA autocannon batteries, which admittedly would be outrageous in a Warhammer 40k setting, it lets you take lots of Titan weapons instead.

Two Vengeance Cannons, with six Laser Blasters. Fun!

I like the idea of a Plasma Death god version:
6 Plasma Destructors
2 Plasma Annihilators

BURN!!!!!!!

Jack

the pic is full of win

good info as well as humor
nice

and @ foda bett
would you rather take the word of the people actually making the fiction for the game, or the nerds that think they should write it all?
it doesnt matter if anyone else says it, if gw prints it, thats how it is

I know a lot of people have been calling the Imperator neutered" as far as armour and shields, but it actually has more weaponry mounts than I expected. That carapace is bristlin with killy.

Can you imagine that with 12 Void Shields? It's already worth far more than 4000pts. Have you seen the range on the Vengeance Cannons? It'll be unstoppable on any board greater than 30'x30'.

You better have some serious troop support to keep the deepstrikers away. Or they will rip the legs out from under it.

It'd certainly be something to see if someone could take down an Imperator in a 4000pt game. After all, there's not much that can Deep Strike and assault in the same turn, and I can't imagine much surviving its main weapons, particularly something like twinned Plasma Annihilators.

Yeah, but a few of its weapons will have that silly 36" minimum range issue. Still, this thing looks like it can be hilariously destructive.

"Hello, I has me a a 4000 point Deathwing army"
after one shooting phase later.

"Okay, wanna go again?"

This is great; you have things worked out pretty bang on in my opinion.

The apocalypse imperator is pretty shooty but i really wish they had it closer to the original. Its transport capacity is way too high and the weapons on its back are just wrong. but oh well atleast it kinda gives a starting point

krusty wrote:
and @ foda bett
would you rather take the word of the people actually making the fiction for the game, or the nerds that think they should write it all?
it doesnt matter if anyone else says it, if gw prints it, thats how it is

Well considering for years GW declared that a rhino could hold 10 marines and then they decided that it need an up scaling, or perhaps that marines are supposed to be taller then a normal human but they're shorter than cadians. How in the world can you even fit 52 models per leg in the undersized imperator?
What about the fact that a land raider can hold 12 marines and a crusader can hold 16 but neither one has a different interior.
What about terminators or catachans having any sort of normal anatomy?
I've seen many a picture where a shadowsword is bigger than a warhound, or where a phantom is the size of the empire state building.

I'm just saying that GW is a bunch of guys who have no clue what scale is and if they need to they'll retcon something next week if they decide they don't like it.

We're playing a game where space fungus (orks), space dinosaurs/insects (tyranids), space fish commies (Tau) space nazis (marines), space elves (eldar), space emo elves (dark eldar), space tentacle guys (chaos), space rambo (catachan), space nuns (sisters), space terminators (necrons), and the like all battle it out but no one ever seems to win.

I'm sorry but I just love it when people get all bent out of shape because they took the epic scale models and blew them up and all of a sudden they use those measurments as gospel handed out from the heavens.
GW makes models, they limit the size of things because they need to limit productions costs, so there really is no scale.

applauds.

I'm sure all of what you said has merit, Foda, but I don't think it applies.

These are models that GW is never going to produce at this scale. There has only ever been one version of their size at this scale. There is no inconsistancy here.

Though that doesn't bother me as much as your implication that even to think about working out the size of a model based on scale marks me out as mentally handicapped. I don't agree with your insistance that there is no scale here.

Well games workshop didn't get the transport all that wrong on there new emperor class they built. The original epic imperator titan could transports 25 bases of troops each base with 5 models on it. But out of that 6 bases were in each foot and the rest were in the main body which is kept cut off from the legs during battle. Only 30 in each foot were able to disembark for a total of 60

We all know by now that GWs scale is completely wacked. What dreadnote has here is probably the best titan scale comparison I have seen to date. If you took the epic models and took a picture of them in this order you would have almost an exact match. Same with the armorcast titans mind you they only released a reaver and warhound.

grizgrin wrote:You better have some serious troop support to keep the deepstrikers away. Or they will rip the legs out from under it.

My 100+ grey knights in the feet should do the trick.

Hmm.

I'd better get painting.

If it helps, here's an image of the unreleased Armorcast Warlord



http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/22277-.html?m=2&w=600

Oh lord look at that warlord!

If the epic models match up to this, it's either down to coincidence or consistant scaling - to be clear, nothing to do with epic was used in making it.

Thank you all for your kind words though!

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

grizgrin wrote:You better have some serious troop support to keep the deepstrikers away. Or they will rip the legs out from under it.

My 100+ Grey knights in the feet should do the trick.

Hmm.

I'd better get painting.

had this happen the other day in a rather large apocalypse game Grey knights couldn't take out a warhound.
walkers user front armor in hand to hand Grey knight max pen is 12 with there force weapons armor 14 Warhound just shrugged it off

lanman wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

grizgrin wrote:You better have some serious troop support to keep the deepstrikers away. Or they will rip the legs out from under it.

My 100+ Grey knights in the feet should do the trick.

Hmm.

I'd better get painting.

had this happen the other day in a rather large apocalypse game Grey knights couldn't take out a warhound.
walkers user front armor in hand to hand Grey knight max pen is 12 with there force weapons armor 14 Warhound just shrugged it off

I think he means 100+ Grey Knights inside the legs would help keep anyone from tearing apart the Imperator's feet.

ah ok then