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Yup, seems like even when I spend hours working to try and help everyone, all I get are trolls who end up making any thread I start locked.

IB4TL!

It seems to be doomed I fear. I make an Article, people complain it is hard to read and access.
I make a thread with a PDF download, and the Mods hit it with the Lockhammer.

Whatever, I have grown tired of the double standard of moderation here, where users who will not be named are permitted to continually harass and destroy any thread I post into, while I receive 3 week bans for agreeing with other members.

I thought it was a really good document. I'm surprised to find that it was locked between the time I went to math class and returned.

willydstyle wrote:I thought it was a really good document. I'm surprised to find that it was locked between the time I went to math class and returned.

Take it up with the users who got it locked.

But whatever, it's not like I spent dozens of hours making a FAQ and rushing it to get it out before the codex is released to prove a point to GW that their codexes need 11 page FAQs before they are released and to help others, I am a selfish donkey-cave troll remember.

I have no idea what you're talking about but after clicking the link in your sig why not do the smart thing and turn it into an article instead of creating a topic thats calling out trolls and criticizing the mods?

PM's are a better way to handle this.

Also, why not become a DCM? Probably be better off in terms of mod relations that way since a paying customer is better than a freeloader like me.

Cane wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about but after clicking the link in your sig why not do the smart thing and turn it into an article instead of creating a topic thats calling out trolls and criticizing the mods?

It was an Article. And all i got were PMs whining about it being hard to find, hard to read and non downloadable.

Also, why not become a DCM? Probably be better off in terms of mod relations that way since a paying customer is better than a freeloader like me.

All that will happen is Dakka will be $25 richer and I still will get harassed. Also the official line is DCM's don't get better mod relations

Yup, seems like even when I spend hours working to try and help everyone,


It's such a shame that some people just don't understand how you are helping them.

Seriously, cry more. You bring this on yourself and the pity party isn't helping things. So yeah, cry more.

That being said, I was impressed that you took the time to make that FAQ of yours. It was good and I think it'll be useful in rules discussions. Some people may even adopt it completely until a more recognized source has a go at it. So thank you for that.

As for the rest, really, by this point just STFU. All you do is whine and bitch when people treat you like you treat them. If you weren't an ass to damn near everyone maybe I'd have some pity for you, but alas, it's spent.

Neconilis wrote:As for the rest, really, by this point just STFU. All you do is whine and bitch when people treat you like you treat them. If you weren't an ass to damn near everyone maybe I'd have some pity for you, but alas, it's spent.

Ive never seen Gwar! treat anyone badly, he justs tells people when they are wrong with the rules and corrects them, unfortunaly this has given him the repuatation of a "troll" as people seem to disagree with him alot.

About 99% of the time Gwar! is right and other people are trolling.

Decide if you are the font of all knowledge and saviour of the RAW hardliners you tout yourself as or some endlessly spamming passive aggressive whiner who's having a crying fit now yet another thread you have anything to do with gets locked.

Why is there so much ad-hominim in this thread? I'm just curious. (well, there might not be, but I can feel the hate comming off my monitor as I read the thread)

Although this is kind-of a pointless thread, there are trolls everywhere. (but who's the bigger troll, the troll or the troll who posts in his thread?)

Edti: NVM, mgs edited out the attacks in his post...

Harsh man, calling upon the modquistion for some locking, cause this is gonna get ugly

starbomber109 wrote:Why is there so much ad-hominim in this thread? I'm just curious. (well, there might not be, but I can feel the hate comming off my monitor as I read the thread)

Although this is kind-of a pointless thread, there are trolls everywhere. (but who's the bigger troll, the troll or the troll who posts in his thread?)

I never asked anyone to come in here and start flaming.

Lord-Loss wrote:

Neconilis wrote:As for the rest, really, by this point just STFU. All you do is whine and bitch when people treat you like you treat them. If you weren't an ass to damn near everyone maybe I'd have some pity for you, but alas, it's spent.

Ive never seen Gwar! treat anyone badly, he justs tells people when they are wrong with the rules and corrects them, unfortunaly this has given him the repuatation of a "troll" as people seem to disagree with him alot.

About 99% of the time Gwar! is right and other people are trolling.

I never once claimed he doesn't know his rules. He does know them, and very well, no argument from me there at all.

As for him treating people badly, perhaps we simply have different opinions of what constitutes badly, but I wholeheartedly disagree with you. There is a difference between just telling people the rules, and coupling it with the arrogant and condescending nature that he often does. I can think of precious few other forums where he would still be allowed to post. But you know what, if we're supposed to police ourselves, that's what I'm doing right now and I stand by my statements.

I had a thread locked just the other day. By KILKRAZY. No one is sacred.

Gwar! wrote:I never asked anyone to come in here and start flaming.

Sorry...
---there needs to be some kind of division of these statements---
It looks like they came anyways though.

Random picture time!

Hmmm.... well I tell people the rules from a RAW perspective constantly. I do so in a very straight-forward manner, and I avoid making a spectacle or trying to create a "persona".

I've seen in multiple threads where I give the correct answer very early in the thread. People will debate for a bit, or ask for a more definitive answer, despite the fact that I already gave the correct answer.

Then Gwar posts and many people agree with him.

This leads me to believe that Gwar's relatively frequent hysterics means that more people pay attention to him, so therefore he is using more effective techniques for teaching rules.

I would almost say that Gwar's posting style makes him more valuable to the 40k community at large, despite the fact that it also creates some discord.

Neconilis wrote:
I never once claimed he doesn't know his rules. He does know them, and very well, no argument from me there at all.

As for him treating people badly, perhaps we simply have different opinions of what constitutes badly, but I wholeheartedly disagree with you. There is a difference between just telling people the rules, and coupling it with the arrogant and condescending nature that he often does. I can think of precious few other forums where he would still be allowed to post. But you know what, if we're supposed to police ourselves, that's what I'm doing right now and I stand by my statements.

Eh after one set of posting with him in you make da call I've now decided to not visit that forum anymore. Take from that what you will but I find other rules forums more friendly.

Gwar! wrote:

starbomber109 wrote:Why is there so much ad-hominim in this thread? I'm just curious. (well, there might not be, but I can feel the hate comming off my monitor as I read the thread)

Although this is kind-of a pointless thread, there are trolls everywhere. (but who's the bigger troll, the troll or the troll who posts in his thread?)

I never asked anyone to come in here and start flaming.

No you just baited a flamewar with this thread. Thats the same thing as asking people to call you out.

So what, Frazzled locked your thread to save you some headache.. you should be thanking him instead of crying here about it. Take it with a grain of salt and move on dude.

jp400 wrote:No you just baited a flamewar with this thread. Thats the same thing as asking people to call you out.

No, I didn't. I was expressing my dismay that other users trolling forced the mods to close what could have been a very productive thread.

R3con wrote:

Neconilis wrote:
I never once claimed he doesn't know his rules. He does know them, and very well, no argument from me there at all.

As for him treating people badly, perhaps we simply have different opinions of what constitutes badly, but I wholeheartedly disagree with you. There is a difference between just telling people the rules, and coupling it with the arrogant and condescending nature that he often does. I can think of precious few other forums where he would still be allowed to post. But you know what, if we're supposed to police ourselves, that's what I'm doing right now and I stand by my statements.

Eh after one set of posting with him in you make da call I've now decided to not visit that forum anymore. Take from that what you will but I find other rules forums more friendly.

I'd encourage you to come back and simply ignore him. I find YMDC has been an invaluable resource in helping me to learn the rules better, though I can certainly understand the why to your decision.

Not getting into this discussion with you.... Man up and move on.

Your sig explains so much as does your avatar.

Gwar you are a troll so shut it

Anyways if there wasn't trolls on the internet we wouldn't have porn :(

Gwar! wrote:

jp400 wrote:No you just baited a flamewar with this thread. Thats the same thing as asking people to call you out.

No, I didn't. I was expressing my dismay that other users trolling forced the mods to close what could have been a very productive thread.

Farmer wrote:Anyways if there wasn't trolls on the internet we wouldn't have porn :(

How so?

jp400 wrote:No you just baited a flamewar with this thread. Thats the same thing as asking people to call you out.

Or maybe you've just fell for it.

i honestly think that FAQ thread was good. I learned a lot about the wolf codex

Or maybe Gwar! made a thread that was legitimately helpful to the Dakka community, and Mod prejudices resulted in a locked thread, rather than disciplining users who were breaking forum rules. Shame on you, Frazzled.

Farmer wrote:

jp400 wrote:No you just baited a flamewar with this thread. Thats the same thing as asking people to call you out.

Or maybe you've just fell for it.

Is that Rules As Intended or Rules As Written?


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willydstyle wrote:Or maybe Gwar! made a thread that was legitimately helpful to the Dakka community, and Mod prejudices resulted in a locked thread, rather than disciplining users who were breaking forum rules. Shame on you, Frazzled.

The topic was locked cause it was suggested that he re-post it in the Article section of the forums... Not cause of any Prejudices.