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Orkeosaurus wrote:I have to troll Gwar's thread into oblivion.

You can't fight destiny.

Is that RAW or RAI?

MeanGreenStompa wrote:From the lad touting his own FAQ after taking the stand to cry out that FAQs aren't worth gak, you do know if your dream comes true and GW take your FAQ on and endorse it, they'd still put their lil caveat on the front page...

That would be hilarious. Gwar manages to spread his light to all corners of the 40k community, and GW accepts his ideas as an official FAQ! Gwar immediately denounces his FAQ.

ph34r wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:From the lad touting his own FAQ after taking the stand to cry out that FAQs aren't worth gak, you do know if your dream comes true and GW take your FAQ on and endorse it, they'd still put their lil caveat on the front page...

That would be hilarious. Gwar manages to spread his light to all corners of the 40k community, and GW accepts his ideas as an official FAQ! Gwar immediately denounces his FAQ.

By Russ' left testicle, I do not denounce the FAQs, I denounce them when the FAQs are poorly written and very often contradict Clear R.a.W

R3con wrote:Oh what will the followers do when gwar gets a job?

Fragment into subcults, each with their own FAQ, and then they can argue RAGI (rules as Gwar intended), and eventually kill each other off, with the last group committing suicide by koolaid. New trolls will will grow out of their rotting remains, and begin to eat each other. Eventually one will remain, and calle himself newgwar. Newgwar will move to warseer to found a new religion. This will all happen in the two days it takes for originalflavorgwar to lose his cubicle job after argueing with his boss about the one and only correct way to sharpen pencils. Originalgwar and Newgwar will then get into a 97 page flamefest over who's faq is best. No one will care enough to read past page 2.

mikhaila wrote:

R3con wrote:Oh what will the followers do when gwar gets a job?

Fragment into subcults, each with their own FAQ, and then they can argue RAGI (rules as Gwar intended), and eventually kill each other off, with the last group committing suicide by koolaid. New trolls will will grow out of their rotting remains, and begin to eat each other. Eventually one will remain, and calle himself newgwar. Newgwar will move to warseer to found a new religion. This will all happen in the two days it takes for originalflavorgwar to lose his cubicle job after argueing with his boss about the one and only correct way to sharpen pencils. Originalgwar and Newgwar will then get into a 97 page flamefest over who's faq is best. No one will care enough to read past page 2.

Farmer wrote:

willydstyle wrote:

Farmer wrote:

willydstyle wrote:@JP: actually... it really just looks like you and farmer are trying to get the thread locked by breaking many forum rules. I think that is silly.

Ok fanboy.

Just because i don't take Gwar's opinions as god makes me "rule breaker" ?.

Or is it because you don't like hearing the truth,please proceed to make a fool out of yourself.

Actually, if you look at my signature, you'll see that Gwar is actually a fanboy of me

You have made several personal attacks, including calling other posters "fanboy" which is in an entirely objective manner breaking forum rules.

Yeah am sure you and him make a great couple,although i don't want the details

Oh poor you,being called "fanboy" so hurtful isn't it :*( ?

Grow a pair.

Farmer, I don't recall seeing you around the site before. I wasn't planning on posting, but every post you've made in this thread has been offensive, derogatory, and just plain unnecessary. You are, in short, the biggest troll in this thread. Gwar has his fans and his enemies on this site, but for the most part, they're all long time users, and contributors(sometimes) to Dakka, like Gwar himself. You just seem to have jumped on the , 'I h8 Gwar! lolz' bandwagon, for the sheer pleasure of trolling, with the hope of not getting taken down a notch for it because it's Gwar.

Grow up. You're the real troll and dramaqueen of this little party in here. There's a certain leeway for winding up other members, and posting silly pics on this site, but that tolerance is extended only once you've shown that you can make meaningful contributions to the forum as a whole, and are not just a passing troll.

To be honest MeanGreenStompa, I'm a little surprised you haven't mentioned it yourself. Regardless of what you think of Gwar, if a user like this took my side, I'd probably change viewpoints, on general principle that I wouldn't want to be on the same side of the fence as him.

And my Valkyrie outflanking thread has it's revenge.

The Green Git wrote:And my Valkyrie outflanking thread has it's revenge.

Wow..

And that thread is a great example of why people hate Gwar! Sorry he pulled that crap on you.

I find this sad. I've disagreed with Gwar! before, but, hell, what the devil is going on with this thread? I do admit that this thread was ill-advised, but what's with all the people coming out of the woodworks to attack Gwar!? He may be nasty sometimes, he may cross the line occassionally, but he is good at giving the RaW answer (just don't read anything he posts after it). I don't think there's any long time poster here who hasn't been an ass on at least one occassion.

Why all the hating?

Trolls killed it? Last post by Frazzled asked you to make it into an article. And then he locked it.So why not repost it as an article instead of posting this flamweworthy thread?

RustyKnight wrote:Why all the hating?

The obvious RaI answer is Jealousy, though the RaW is unclear and requires some errata.

I always wanted to ask, cause I never got the codex...is a valk or vendetta a dedicated transport option? Funny how I never found that out...

Back on subject, Gwareepoo, if I were you, I would let it go. I mean, I dont always agree with your "interpretations" but I dont go making a federal case outuv it nor do I insult you in any way. Its grow up time, we all have opinions and this is an internet thread: Meaning, many parties are involved so please people lets keep it civil and on things more important than GWAR! thinks he is cursed or hated, or I hate GWAR! because he yells at me.

We are better than this...

Ironhide wrote:Trolls killed it? Last post by Frazzled asked you to make it into an article. And then he locked it.So why not repost it as an article instead of posting this flamweworthy thread?

Ok, this is pissing me off. IT WAS AN ARTICLE. People complained, so I made it a Thread, and then people complained...

Gwar! wrote:

Ironhide wrote:Trolls killed it? Last post by Frazzled asked you to make it into an article. And then he locked it.So why not repost it as an article instead of posting this flamweworthy thread?

Ok, this is pissing me off. IT WAS AN ARTICLE. People complained, so I made it a Thread, and then people complained...

Write a big ol' PM for Frazzled asking him to reopen the thread and include a notice that the thread is for debating the FAQ's answers, not debating the existence of the FAQ. I do find it sad that your thread was locked because of some posts attacking you.

Gwar! wrote:

Ironhide wrote:Trolls killed it? Last post by Frazzled asked you to make it into an article. And then he locked it.So why not repost it as an article instead of posting this flamweworthy thread?

Ok, this is pissing me off. IT WAS AN ARTICLE. People complained, so I made it a Thread, and then people complained...

Like I pointed out earlier:

1: Repost as a Article
2: Clean it up so its easier to read
3: Not make Pity Party thread
4: ?????
5: Profit!

Seriously, if you would have taken it with a grain of salt and moved on ALL OF THIS would have been avoided.

Wot? Nah. We love the QQ

RustyKnight wrote:

Gwar! wrote:

Ironhide wrote:Trolls killed it? Last post by Frazzled asked you to make it into an article. And then he locked it.So why not repost it as an article instead of posting this flamweworthy thread?

Ok, this is pissing me off. IT WAS AN ARTICLE. People complained, so I made it a Thread, and then people complained...

Write a big ol' PM for Frazzled asking him to reopen the thread and include a notice that the thread is for debating the FAQ's answers, not debating the existence of the FAQ. I do find it sad that your thread was locked because of some posts attacking you.

Or have someone move the thread out of YMDC and into article discussion, where I would think it belongs....edit: or...is that where it is? (looking this up)

@GameandWatch

I believe the Valk/Vendetta are only fast attack choices, but IIRC from what I've seen of the codex, you can take them in squadrons, and you can also deploy units in them.

I would like to agree that we are better than this...but this is the internet

what do you expect?

starbomber109 wrote:

Or have someone move the thread out of YMDC and into article discussion, where I would think it belongs....edit: or...is that where it is? (looking this up)

The issue that I have is more that Gwar!'s thread got locked because other posters couldn't control themselves. I didn't really notice Gwar! doing anything provacative in his thread, yet people still felt the need to come in and attack him. For that, his thread got locked. lolwut? Maybe Gwar! should just be perma-banned now, y'know, otherwise certain members just won't be able to contain themselves. Course, if that happens, Gwar! has to either a) setup some ridiculous blog (I want to troll it claiming that the blogger isn't Gwar!) or b) go to some other forum and boast about how he's so awesome in dakkadakkaland.

Not reading the thread, but as an article moderator (and non-active 40k player) the
only issue I had with your FAQ was the use of spoiler tags. Why invite to answer everyone's
questions and then try to hit it with the spoiler tags?

Otherwise, it seemed fine (again, as a non-active 40k player)

It was spoilered because I was concerned that it might affect the real INAT FAQ decisions. Also, having it a PDF makes it easier to apply the Creative Commons Licence.

Well think of it this way, if it affects INAT FAQ, that can only be a good thing for both FAQs.

I personally find the amount of trolling in this thread to be appalling , and i wonder how did it get to page 4 without any of the trolls been banned yet.

So far im seeing 4 people that trolls gwar! on regular bases to the point that the mods need to lock a legitimate thread.

To be honest , i dont think locking an innocent thread is the solution , banning the trolls themselves are.

Trolls can be killed with fire.

This thread has received numerous complaints for behavior.

I'm going to lock this thread while I review what disciplinary actions, if any, need to be taken.

willydstyle wrote:Or maybe Gwar! made a thread that was legitimately helpful to the Dakka community, and Mod prejudices resulted in a locked thread, rather than disciplining users who were breaking forum rules. Shame on you, Frazzled.

Unlocking because I have been called out and just found out about this thread. Amazing what happens when you go to sleep for a while.

1. I closed the thread because an article was more appropriate for what he was doing. We have articles on tacticas, painting, etc. etc. THATS WHAT THE F cking articles are for.

2. I had no problem with the "FAQ" itself. I think it would have been better served as a compendium of issues that were spotted and how they could be looked at from a RAW and HTP (How To Play) context. Yakface has seen fit to re-open it and I am down with that if kept in this context.

3. Public disclosure. I don't go to YMDC any more unless there are reports. The hardline RAW attacks on every post, even those started to ask how should something be played in the real world, have driven me from that forum. I use other boards now for that. The Fact a Mod, and a mod who generally holds that RAW should be discussed as an initial starting and the primary source for most queries, has been driven from the section should say something.