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So in a fit of madness, I've deceided to start a Pre Heresy Space Wolves army. I already have a Dark Angels Pre Heresy force, though it was built as an after thought to an army that I already had, so I've never been 100% happy with it. They're heavily converted and wearing black armor but it's never really scratched my Pre Heresy itch. So with the release of the Space Wolves codex I decided to build a Pre Heresy army from the ground up.

I'll be using a mix of the new Space Wolf kits, Berzerker and Chaos Marine boxes, MaxMini jump packs and helmets and Forgeworld Red Scorpion Vet packs for the Maximus armor. Everything but the Forgeworld bits has been delievered so I've began converting up the force. So far I have a Rune Priest in power armor, a Rune Priest in Terminator armor, a Wolf Priest with jump pack (to keep the sky pups in line,) 5 Wolf Guard in Terminator armor and another 5 Terminators about half done. There's also a Predator, Whirlwind, Dreadnought and Land Speeder in the vehicle department.

To start off I'm looking at 15 Blood Claws, 2 squads of Grey Hunters with twin meltas in drop pods, 10 Sky Claws, a Rune Priest in power armor to tag along with the Blood Claws and a Wolf Priest for the Sky Claws. Depending on points I'll add in Wolf Guard, the Dread in a drop pod with a Multi-Melta, the Land Speeder or the Predator or Whirlwind. What I'm looking to add down the road is a Mk2 Land Raider from Forgeworld and Custodes Guard. For the Custodes I had a crazy idea of putting them on Jetbikes and using the Thunderwolf Cavalry unit to represent them. That's down the road though, for now I've got my hands full with the core of the army.

So here's the WIP shots of what I have so far, nothing painted yet, just converted up.

First is the Wolf Priest I plan on running with the Skyclaws to keep them in line and add some punch to the unit.


Next are my first five Wolf Guard. Sorry about them being a bit dark, the primer made them hard to photograph for me.




And some of the WIP Wolf Guard before the primer to give a better idea of how they look:




And here are some shots of the Predator and Whirlwind. They're the current kits with bits from old kits added on to give them an older feel:





Well that's where I'm starting from, and I figure that having this painting blog will actually motivate me to get this army done. Might be a bit slow as working full time on an overnight shift and going to class doesn't leave much free time. I hope to get at least a unit done a week though, at least that's the goal! These are just a sample of what I'm working on for this army, my gallery has more images in it.

I am extremely impressed with all of them! Great job and I look forward to watching you progress.

Looking good and I will follow with interest.

N00bish question, how do you do those termies shoulders? I see them about but don't know how people are making them.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Looking good and I will follow with interest.

N00bish question, how do you do those termies shoulders? I see them about but don't know how people are making them.

It was Kid Kyoto's idea, and it's a simple way to make PH Termie shoulderpads. They're the Dark Angel Dread leg armor bits with the DA icon filed off. I leave the banner on the other one for name plates. I ordered about 12 sets from Battlewagon Bits a while back.

Look great so far! Keep us posted!

Those terminators look great, that jetpacker is very unique.

How did you make that jetpack? That is fething sick! Love it!

Nice job so far. Can't wait to see these done!

Scottywan82 wrote:How did you make that jetpack? That is fething sick! Love it!

The jump pack is a resin piece from Maxmini and are the main reason I'm taking Skyclaws. I couldn't pass them up when I saw them.

I managed to build my first Grey Hunter today and will get a few pics of him up later on. I'm still waiting on my FW order to come in so I can get started on my Bloodclaws and Grey Hunters. I'm basing this army around the Siege of Prospero time, so I'll be throwing some Wulfen conversions into some of the squads. I know Wulfen were grouped together in the 13th Company during the Great Crusade, but I figure during the Siege of Prospero they wouldn't have time to reorganize the Wulfen. That and the anger the Wolves felt toward the 1000 Sons would make the Curse manifest more. Plus this timeframe gives me an excuse to put Custode Jetbikes in the army!


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A small update to post a picture of what my rank and file marines will look like:



Just a simple Grey Hunter with a power weapon, but gives the feel the normal marines will have. Now if my FW order would just come in so I can get some troops built!

Thanatos73 wrote:And here are some shots of the Predator and Whirlwind. They're the current kits with bits from old kits added on to give them an older feel:

I really dig the route you've taken with the tanks. The old school ones have always had that extra bit of awesome IMO. I think what you did works well, and they also arent extremely tiny like the originals. Keep it up Sir!

Got a small update, finished assembling my first squad of Grey Hunters. The bolters aren't all glued on so I can paint the chest armor more easily, then glue them on afterward. It'll be a few more days before I can undercoat them or get painting anything, 16 and 12 hour work days suck. Anywho, here are some pictures:

great work where your heading but the mark I didnt have knee pads. You dont have to change but if you want to go pre-heresey and be sound with it you neeed to drop the knee pads. Also their was only one chaptar with wings on their chests and that was the emporers children.

Didn't thy had the imperial bicefal eagle on their chest plates? The winged diamond should be ok if so.

Empchild wrote:great work where your heading but the mark I didnt have knee pads. You dont have to change but if you want to go pre-heresey and be sound with it you neeed to drop the knee pads. Also their was only one chaptar with wings on their chests and that was the emporers children.

they did bare the aquilla but the others bore nothing..maybe a skull here and their but nothing.

Empchild wrote:great work where your heading but the mark I didnt have knee pads. You dont have to change but if you want to go pre-heresey and be sound with it you neeed to drop the knee pads. Also their was only one chaptar with wings on their chests and that was the emporers children.

Mk I Thunder armor isn't represented here, I'm pretty much going for a mix of Mk III and Mk IV (if I ever get the FW order I made.) Mk I didn't have knee pads, but Mk II-IV seemed to be a mix with the knee pads. Different sources of art have some with and some without. Even the old GW models had kneepads on some Mk II-IV http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1183525_99110101370_ColArmourthroughAgesMain_873x627.jpg And from a practical stand point, getting all straight leg armor for an entire army would be quite a pain.

Basically I'm building this army to fit the late Crusade/early Heresy time frame. I'll have a mix of armors with most being Mk III and Mk IV. Since Horus got most of the Mk IV shipments to the Traitor Legions first, this force will have a mix of armors to represent the spotty resupply they've been getting. I might convert up some Thunder Armor for my Wolf Guard, but I don't think many front line units would be using that armor in this time frame.

Edit: Oh, and wings were allowed on any Marine's armor, but only the Emperor's Childeren could uniformly display the Aquilla on their armor. I've heard from a few places that Terran born Marines could display the one headed eagle on their armor, but not the twin headed eagle. At any rate, a winged jewel would be ok.

Mark 1 armour wasn't fully environmentally sealed anyway. Unless you're doing some parade ground dudes then I'd stay away from it.

Looks good. Heresy to mix SM and Chaos pieces, but i'd do it too.

Not trying to come accross as condesending so if it is I do apologize. I love pre heresy and heresy armies. I am making a EMP Children pre heresy on and yes I unserstand getting the MKI legs is annoying(I did it at suprisingly low cost). Just putting in my two cents thats all. I do look forward to seeing where your heading with this and seeing them painted.

ever checked out the site The Great Crusade? its a bunch or pre heresy gamers i think you may fit in there
awesome minis and go maximini heads!

Empchild wrote:Not trying to come accross as condesending so if it is I do apologize. I love pre heresy and heresy armies. I am making a EMP Children pre heresy on and yes I unserstand getting the MKI legs is annoying(I did it at suprisingly low cost). Just putting in my two cents thats all. I do look forward to seeing where your heading with this and seeing them painted.

No, not condescending at all, I appreciate any feedback as well. As I said, I'm just shooting for that mixed, spotty resupply look. I'll get it even better once I get the Mk 4 bits from FW, though that part is taking way longer than I was hoping.

ever checked out the site The Great Crusade? its a bunch or pre heresy gamers i think you may fit in there
awesome minis and go maximini heads!

I do check there quite often, though I've yet to register an account. One of these days I'll get around to it and post my stuff there. They're a great resource and I've gotten a lot of inspiration from them.

This is really one of the coolest marine conversion blogs I've seen in a long time. I'll be following this with great interest.

Bascilica wrote:Looks good. Heresy to mix SM and Chaos pieces, but i'd do it too.

its not heresy, its PRE-heresy

also this army is looking sweet.

Finally an update, stupid real world keeping me busy. I've decided that this will be Olaf Ditkason's Great Company (in honor of Da Coach, a little inside joke with a buddy of mine.) The Great Company symbol is the wolf and the moon on a field of red, with the Legion symbol being the red wolf's head. Most of my Wolves will have the Great Company symbol on their left shoulder, with some having the Legion symbol. Anywhere the wolf's head shows up it'll be red, and honor markings will vary by back. Grey Hunters have red markings with black and red pack symbols, Blood Claws will have yellow honor markings with red and yellow pack markings and Wolf Guard will have black honor markings and black and yellow pack markings. Figured I'd keep most of the pack markings the same as the current codex, and change the Legion symbol color to the original red. Anyway, enough of my rambling, here's my first finished Grey Hunter pack. Pretty happy with them at a good table top level, at least in my opinion!









Also on a side note, The Lost Vikings by Dethklok just came up on random as I was making this post, don't know if that's a good sign or bad.

DA BEARS..ummm I mean DA WOLVES.. ooo da mini wolves would definately beat down da mini sons

Not to rain on your parade, but you should look at this.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071218234958/us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/4.htm

Pics work. If it says not in archive, then hit refresh.

Not to rain on your parade, but you should look at this.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071218234958/us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/4.htm

Pics work. If it says not in archive, then hit refresh.

Not to rain on your parade, but you should look at this.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071218234958/us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/4.htm

Pics work. If it says not in archive, then hit refresh.


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Oh shiz, srry, comp froze

Not to rain on your parade, but you should look at this.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071218234958/us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/4.htm

Pics work. If it says not in archive, then hit refresh.

Not to rain on your parade, but you should look at this.

http://web.archive.org/web/20071218234958/us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/pre_heresy/4.htm

Pics work. If it says not in archive, then hit refresh.

That is one hell of a cool Space Wolf conversion, very preheresy indeed. Think I'd go nuts trying to convert an entire army like that though. Hmm, maybe for the Wolf Guard...

Curse you Brotheralexos! Feeding my insanity and all.