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2009/12/04 02:33:41
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Stabbin' Skarboy
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
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I hijacked KingCracker's thread and I feel bad... So I decided to create my own.
This thread is to discuss Paganism. If you want to read what I wrote so far about Yule, here it is. My net is still out at home ( FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...), so play nice until I get into work tomorrow. PLEASE!!! I want to play, too! I see this stuff as history, not my personal religion. But there may be some here on this forum that see it as more than just history. Let us be respectful to each other... Please.
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I am a damaged individual screaming random obscenities into the internet, sorry if I upset you.
"Dig what you dig. Don't take any fool's madness, just dig what you dig."
-Corey Taylor (Not Saying you're a fool  )
"You guys are nuttier n fruitbats who just sucked a three week old pineapple." -Frazzled |
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2009/12/04 03:14:07
Subject: Re:The Pagan Thread...
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dont feel bad, it was a nice read anyways lol. But uh...... give me your thread!!!MWAHAHAHAAA
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2009/12/04 03:28:44
Subject: Re:The Pagan Thread...
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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THIS made it all worth it.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" 
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2009/12/04 05:10:12
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Battleship Captain
The Land of the Rising Sun
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What I like about paganism is how people tend to confuse it with atheism. Is so fun when I hear somebody talking about the Greek philosophers and start saying how atheists they were, poor Zeus and crew!
M.
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Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though." |
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2009/12/04 05:27:01
Subject: Re:The Pagan Thread...
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
An unknown location in the Warp
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EDITED ON REQUEST OF SOME LOYALIST SCUMBAG
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/12/04 07:48:51
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2009/12/04 06:06:36
Subject: Re:The Pagan Thread...
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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100% serious how could I be a Asator without being the whole "Insane Viking" like... the spirituality?
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts  
Slaves to Darkness.3k  
Word Bearers 2500k  
Daemons of Chaos  
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2009/12/04 06:09:05
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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What I like about Paganism is that there's multiple Gods for multiple things.
However, I'm still on the Catholic boat.
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Some people play to win, some people play for fun. Me? I play to kill toy soldiers.
DR:90S++GMB++IPwh40k206#+D++A++/hWD350R+++T(S)DM+
WHFB, AoS, 40k, WM/H, Starship Troopers Miniatures, FoW
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2009/12/04 06:20:15
Subject: Re:The Pagan Thread...
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Executing Exarch
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Dude, post a smaller damn picture! That gak is annoying.  Ah paganism, truly a hodge podge of insanity and cultural blending. I don't know why people get so excited like, "Oh yay! I am so cool for re-discovering this way awesome religion that is so not existent anymore!" Please people, if you really think that go to India. Almost all of the gods that have ever been worshipped in some form or fashion are represented in Hinduism. It is the only major world religion that IS pagan. On a more interesting note C.S. Lewis was a firm believer that if Christianity was wrong, Hinduism was right. I don't agree with him though. I think that if Christianity is wrong, then Nietzsche is right, but that is just my opinion...
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How is it they live in such harmony - the billions of stars - when most men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about someone they know.
- St. Thomas Aquinas
Warhammer 40K:
 Alpha Legion - 15,000 pts For the Emperor!
WAAAGH! Skullhooka - 14,000 pts
 Biel Tan Strikeforce - 11,000 pts
"The Eldar get no attention because the average male does not like confetti blasters, shimmer shields or sparkle lasers."
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2009/12/04 06:27:11
Subject: Re:The Pagan Thread...
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
An unknown location in the Warp
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JEB_Stuart wrote:Dude, post a smaller damn picture! That gak is annoying.
sorry... 
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2009/12/04 06:33:01
Subject: Re:The Pagan Thread...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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JEB_Stuart wrote:Ah paganism, truly a hodge podge of insanity and cultural blending. I don't know why people get so excited like, "Oh yay! I am so cool for re-discovering this way awesome religion that is so not existent anymore!" Please people, if you really think that go to India. Almost all of the gods that have ever been worshipped in some form or fashion are represented in Hinduism.
People who worship completely unrelated gods are the worst.
No, I'm not going to respect your "religion" if it includes Athena, Thor, Osiris, Quetzalcoatl, and every other god you learned about when you checked out "Mythology for Kids!" from your local library. 
That's not a religion. At least the people who say they're Jedis are using one setting.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/12/04 06:35:28
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Executing Exarch
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I would like to think you are serious Orkeo...
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DR:80+S(GT)G++M++B-I++Pwmhd05#+D+++A+++/sWD-R++T(Ot)DM+
How is it they live in such harmony - the billions of stars - when most men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about someone they know.
- St. Thomas Aquinas
Warhammer 40K:
Alpha Legion - 15,000 pts For the Emperor!
WAAAGH! Skullhooka - 14,000 pts
Biel Tan Strikeforce - 11,000 pts
"The Eldar get no attention because the average male does not like confetti blasters, shimmer shields or sparkle lasers."
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2009/12/04 06:37:30
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Oh I am.
Say what you want about the tenants of the Jedi order, at least it's consistent!
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/12/04 06:38:05
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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If you read up about the old religions you quickly find the same archetypes in all of them: the war god, the mother god, the trickster god, and so on.
Why should those not be the same real gods with different back stories in the different religions?
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2009/12/04 06:42:01
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Because they clash, that's why.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/12/04 06:45:32
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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That's a rather superficial appraisal of the deeper reality behind the surface differences.
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2009/12/04 06:53:22
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Or maybe it's too deep.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/12/04 07:05:27
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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LOL
Orkeosuarus being deep. 
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/12/04 07:09:43
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
An unknown location in the Warp
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Kilkrazy wrote:That's a rather superficial appraisal of the deeper reality behind the surface differences.
i would have to agree with that...
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2009/12/04 07:15:00
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Talking about archetypes glosses over important cultural differences. The tenor (that's a poor word for it--maybe "meaning" is better--KK is using the phrase "deeper reality") of Norse and Greek mythology are totally different despite both having gods that we (nota bene: that's right us not them) consider to be similar. Actually, Greek and Roman religion were very different despite drawing on a similar images/cultural traditions.
One thing that frustrates me about paganism is how people think that word refers to something particular. The word was used by Christians to mean not-Christians. Most people who talk about "pagans" or being "pagans" are talking about something that was made up in the twentieth century and could not have been "rediscovered" because it never existed in the first place.
I actually agree with the spirit of what Orkeo is saying except I would phrase it less tolerantly. If you're going to believe in something totally ridiculous, might as well go all out! Osiris married to Hera with Thor as their child? Oh, and they're all represented in our holy texts as furries. Also, to convert Orkeo, they all have lightsabers.
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2009/12/04 07:27:25
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Sounds like the Bible. Except it's been made into a family Sitcom. I like it.  I think you're reffering to people who mix it all together and take it literally. You have to admit that there are quite a few striking similiarites. BTW, r3n3g8b0y: Please take down that picture, it's fething up the thread.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/12/04 07:46:54
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Manchu wrote: The word was used by Christians to mean not-Christians. Most people who talk about "pagans" or being "pagans" are talking about something that was made up in the twentieth century and could not have been "rediscovered" because it never existed in the first place.
In the context of Neopaganism the term is usually meant to reference the non-Christian belief systems of Europe. These very clearly existed, and thus are capable of being "rediscovered" in the sense that they are no longer widely followed. Clearly no current follower of a Neopagan belief system is going to produce a faithful recreation of the things which people like the Vikings believes, as there was no concept of orthodoxy as we understand it, but that's really only important if you think orthodoxy is important. Which many people do not.
Manchu wrote:
I actually agree with the spirit of what Orkeo is saying except I would phrase it less tolerantly. If you're going to believe in something totally ridiculous, might as well go all out! Osiris married to Hera with Thor as their child? Oh, and they're all represented in our holy texts as furries. Also, to convert Orkeo, they all have lightsabers.
Or that God is one, and yet three...
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2009/12/04 07:58:14
Subject: Re:The Pagan Thread...
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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r3n3g8b0y wrote:EDITED ON REQUEST OF SOME LOYALIST SCUMBAG
Thank you...HERETIC.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/12/04 08:09:10
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Lethal Lhamean
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Pagans eh..
God of war... who needs it
Mother god who needs it
Trickster god who needs it..
Where is the god of money, pagans.. Bueller?
Thor has a hammer.. good luck with the manual labour chump..
Why is there no god of money. If there is enlighten me dakka.
*waits for interesting response*
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2009/12/04 08:10:57
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Shaman wrote:Pagans eh..
God of war... who needs it
Mother god who needs it
Trickster god who needs it..
Where is the god of money, pagans.. Bueller?
Thor has a hammer.. good luck with the manual labour chump..
Why is there no god of money. If there is enlighten me dakka.
*waits for interesting response*
There is a god of partying and getting wasted, the God of Wine, Bachuss. (spelling?)
He also has a cousin who likes to party and rok called Gork. (or is it Mork)
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/12/04 09:02:34
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Shaman wrote:Pagans eh..
God of war... who needs it
Mother god who needs it
Trickster god who needs it..
Where is the god of money, pagans.. Bueller?
Thor has a hammer.. good luck with the manual labour chump..
Why is there no god of money. If there is enlighten me dakka.
*waits for interesting response*
Hermes was god of commerce in the Greek pantheon.
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2009/12/04 09:05:49
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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According to Nine Inch Nails money is its own god.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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2009/12/04 09:09:48
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Ah yes, there was also a Cathaginian god for that too.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/12/04 09:19:58
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Shaman wrote:
Why is there no god of money. If there is enlighten me dakka.
With his blend of alchemy he turns gak into gold.Apparently.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/12/04 09:24:08
Subject: Re:The Pagan Thread...
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/12/04 10:13:21
Subject: The Pagan Thread...
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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Cryonicleech wrote:What I like about Paganism is that there's multiple Gods for multiple things.
However, I'm still on the Catholic boat.
They have that in Catholicism too--they're called Saints
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PROSECUTOR: By now, there have been 34 casualties.
Elena Ceausescu says: Look, and that they are calling genocide.
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