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Microsoft's Windows Vista made me steer to Apple but since Windows 7. I was using a 1.4 GHZ netbook and was coping stuff to my USB and it went at impossible speeds for a netbook (5mb/s) I was amazed so definently Microsoft. I still use Apple products (MP3's) because a laptop is too much to carry just for music


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The awesomeness of Windows 7 made it fast

Hmmmm so which is better, Microsoft or Apple, theres only one way to find out.....

Steve Jobs (strange name) should be in the same room as Bill Gates (named my neighbours fence after him). Steve Jobs will throw iPod Shuffles at Bill Gates and Bill re return fire with Windows Vista Home Premium discs

Meh, I'm partial to MS.

Apple isn't really bad persay, but if look at the prices for a PC and Mac of comparable hardware you typically end up paying a few hundred dollars more for the Mac. If you take the time to build your own PC (the parts for which are much more widely available), the savings are higher.

Vista wasn't really that bad, but yeah, it was definitely one of MS' low points. 7 is great though.

After Vista it'd be hard to go anywhere but up.

After Vista Bill Gates could've made a fence company and make more money even if all the computers had Vista pre-loaded in the system


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Those of you complaining about Vista must not have ever used Win2000/ME - talk about your low point in OS history.

Gitkikka wrote:Those of you complaining about Vista must not have ever used Win2000/ME - talk about your low point in OS history.

QFT


I'm a purely Microsoft user, Apple is good, but I'm far to familar with how it functions inside and out to want to use anything else.

Microsoft at work
Apple at home

I spend my money on what I want and the company does the same. Everybody should do the same and not get angry when others disagree with their choice of computers.

I am only Microsoft except for MP3's. Windows XP was alright.

My next computer might end up being a G5 or something along those lines. I actually like both systems, and I think the only real differences are in the functions; can't really be better when different OS's are best suited for specific purposes.

I have had some very strange problems with vista though, but overall it has been pretty decent. Kinda want to move over to mac when I get the cash, so I can start to kick my designing into overdrive. I know an awful lot of people that use all 3 'mainstream' OS's though, a surprising amount use Linux primarily.

Vista was stupid, windows 98 was good, 95 was all good till you are on the log on screen for someone else and "accedently" press the escape key

You can pick up G5s cheap seeing as they haven't been made by Apple for years.

Yeah, I could probably find one for as low as 500, but I don't really have any cash to throw around right now. Has anyone used the Mac Pro? Expensive piece of kit, just wondering if it is 'worth' it. I wouldn't spend money like that unless it really kicked ass... for professional use of course.

Mac Pros used to kick ass. Probably still do. I had a first gen one.

Thing is you can't move past 10.5 on a PPC Mac. Once 10.7 comes out your OS will probably not be supported. Apple tends to support the current and previous OS.

Love Apple for innovation and their slickness.

I Use Ubuntu now as I have no major security issues and when an issue does crop up the community acknowledges it and works to fix it rather than hiding it until a critical patch is issued (ala MS).

I've been using computers professionally for over two decades and used a number of operating systems including BBC (which is basically CPM,) Atari ST, Mac system 6 and 7, MS-DOS, Windows from 3.0 up to XP (never touched Vista,) Linux, and Mac OSX 3 onwards.

I prefer Mac to Windows just because of all the little things that make it easier.

An example: taking a USB device off the computer.

On Windows you go to the Task Bar, go to the right hand end, go to the little green arrow in a circle, click that, look through the icons that open out, find the one which is two green arrows, click that which opens dialogue box. You then select which of the various drive letters might be the USB device you want to dismount (Windows assigns new drive letters when you attach new USB devices so if you have half a dozen external drives, a couple of cameras and some USB sticks or memory cards, it becomes a total mess...) You click the one you think is right. Then you unplug the device and the OS gives the same noise to tell you you did that successfully as it gives to tell you that you failed to dismount the device and might have caused data loss. That was a brilliant piece of design there, Gates!

On OSX you click the eject icon next to the device name you want to dismount. You unplug the device. Er, that’s it.

I haven’t seen Windows 7 yet, I doubt we will get it at work until at least Service Pack 2. In the meantime, we are considering changing to Mac for everything because the 32-bit Windows PCs are just not pokey enough to do the work, and the 64-bit Windows doesn’t properly support a lot of software we want to use.

I use Linux and Mac at home, from choice.

Yeah KK, I don't even do that. Just hot swap them. Sure you can get errors on the key. But Vista and 7 allow pretty quick error checking now. So honestly if I'm in a hurry I just make sure my file transfer is done and pull it. Never really used the taskbar eject you described other than to see if a device is really detected.

Well, Mac tends to be a bit more "User Friendly", but PC's tend to have more Horsepower.

The reason we are thinking of swapping from Win to Mac in my office is because the Windows machines don't have enough horsepower.

Windows PC will always have more horsepower than apple, in that its cheaper, to get much stronger specs.

Right?

or am i missing something.

Microsoft. Macs would be nearly useless if they couldn't run a version of Windows so Gates wins this one on that factor alone

Apple: I like Itunes and Ipods. Their computers look sleek but are overpriced and while they're bolstered as "easier to use" thats only somewhat true and completely wrong if you want or have the ability to upgrade machines yourself. I think you void your warranty if you try to do routine maintenance or upgrade an Apple whereas with a PC you can open her up to your hearts content; the trade off just doesn't pay off to me. I'm also not a big fan of having to drive or send stuff off to the Apple store for things I could've done myself if it was a PC. If I wanted a sweet looking and overpriced machine I'd rather purchase an Alienware system.

Here's an interesting article, Apple won't honor warranties to smokers which is kinda ironic since the market they're going for are cafe dwelling hipsters:

Apple just laid down the gauntlet with smokers announcing that it won’t honor the warranty on a product that’s been exposed to smoke.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=5312&tag=post-5312;interact_Apple_5312#comments

And here's a not really-related funny pic from the infamous Maddox, its from the Itunes user agreement:



Microsoft: Recently upgraded from Vista to Windows 7 and no problems; didn't really have any issue with Vista either. Outside of OS, Microsoft's Xbox also makes me prefer this brand over its niche counterpart since its been the best overall gaming system of its eras (Xbox and 360). Xbox Live has also been a great experience for me and set the bar for online console systems.

RogueMarket wrote:Windows PC will always have more horsepower than apple, in that its cheaper, to get much stronger specs.

Right?

or am i missing something.

I am talking about a working environment, where you spend the money to buy the tools that do the job.

We increasingly find Win PCs can't do the job, no matter how much money we spend on them.

Since Apple sources their components from the exact same manufacturers PC manufacturers use, why do they charge more for the same thing?

I'm still laughing at how they are more 'green' than they used to be because now their laptops use an aluminium shell instead of plastic (so that's less fossil fuels, right?) - except Aluminium requires a crapload of power to smelt, so any net savings on carbon footprint just went up the spout anyway.

Win for me. Former mac (l)user.

As for flash drives and dismounting: Optimise for quick withdrawal. You can yank it as soon as you are done writing to it.

Microsoft: Vista is shiny.

Never had any problems with it, been using it for around a year or so.

Dal'yth Dude wrote:Microsoft at work
Apple at home

Dis is wrong!

Apple for work, MS for home.

Windows has more games ;O

Vista is fine, and Windows 2000 was fine for that matter. ME was something else entirely.

If you found the transition from XP to Vista difficult, then you're going to cry transitioning from XP to Seven. They're both great OSs from a functionality point of view - the only real complaints are from third-party software and support vendors, which automatically amplify into a 'public opinion'. Australian government departments, for example, refuse to step up from XP, or even NT/2K in some places. It makes sense for train-truck operation and other systems that make good use of PCM and similar, though... Neither vista nor seven are really designed with non-media industry use in mind.

Of course, if you couldn't be bothered figuring out how something works, you could just cut a hole in the bottom corner of your bank account and let everything pour out, condense and crystallise into a shiny new Mac. Like a precious stone, it's relatively useless compared to the investment - it's not really for power users outside of the design or production fields, but it is just as capable and generally compatible as a PC if you're doing sound enineering or the like.
Still, if all you want to do is look good...

Apple for everything. I dont even ever use my Mac Book Pro anymore because my G3 iPhone is so powerful. I heard MS came out with a new cell phone... It downloads a virus the first outgoing call. Apple is immune to viruses.

Nuff sed.

G

Green Blow Fly wrote:Apple for everything. I dont even ever use my Mac Book Pro anymore because my G3 iPhone is so powerful. I heard MS came out with a new cell phone... It downloads a virus the first outgoing call. Apple is immune to viruses.

Nuff sed.

G

Almost didn't pick up that you were trolling until that last bit.