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Is there any clue. Honestly i really hope for a national bill to help education. I also hope for tougher immigration laws.
What do you guys believe is coming after the healthcare bill?

Well there was talk of immigration reform and citizenship reform all in one fell swoop. I dont think they will make it tougher though it will most likely be a hell of alot easier.

Well, I'd wait to ask this question until they actually do something about healthcare. So far we've got a poorly thought out insurance bill.

Obama will force his values on everyone in the US. Like being black. We'll all have to walk around in baggy pants, wearing gold chains and talking how Marx was the shizzle fo rizzle.

I'm going to say gays in the military. He'll probably make it mandatory to be gay in the military. Then we'll have the most powerful army in the world, it'll be like the Sacred Band of Thebes. Which should also fix the troop shortages in Afganistan, it's like two birds with one stone.

Immigration then enviro. VAT tax will come after the election upon recommendation of the Obama appointed committee. You heard it here first!

Meanwhile back at the Hall of Justice, US bond sales are getting a tepid response...

IMO, what's going to come is a lot of smaller legislation by the Dems to portray that they're getting things done ahead of the midterm election. I imagine they'll focus on stuff that they think will be popular with the middle class like jobs stimulus, etc.

The Dems are going to lose seats in November no matter what because that's what always happens during midterms. But with healthcare out of the way, I think their chances of putting up a fight for those seats just increased. The GOP also has a loud, very angry section of its base to contend with. The Dems were looking like a "SELL" a couple weeks ago, but they're at least a "HOLD" now, IMO.

Tyyr wrote:Well, I'd wait to ask this question until they actually do something about healthcare. So far we've got a poorly thought out insurance bill.

Good one!

It DOES strike me that they could have just put the new insurance regulations in place without making taking out health insurance mandatory...

Well now that we have mandatory healthcare for allthe next logical step is mandatory green everything, followed by mandatory food rationing, followed by mandatory military service, followed by mandatory restriction of free speech, and then mandatory government regulation of your life.

Hmm...too Republican in outlook?

Okay, let's try Democrats.

We conquer the world with hugs. We hug the terrorists and they apologize for hating us and accepting weapons and training we gave them to kill our enemies via a Cold War proxy war.

We hug the Chinese, who promise to stop overpolluting and overpopulating, immediately democratize and give us huge discounts on non-child, non-sweatshop labour.

We hug the Russians, who allow us to build massive military deployments and missiles in the event Russia never goes renegade. Oh yes, and the missiles have smiley faces on them.

We hug the conservatives, who then become ultra liberals and do everything liberally ten times better than the current liberals, who become the new conservatives.

I would include more hugs for others, but those are the best ones I could think of that liberals would want to hug. They already hug the Earth for hemp's sake.

Albatross wrote:It DOES strike me that they could have just put the new insurance regulations in place without making taking out health insurance mandatory...

That's far too intelligent a thing for our government to do.

I think they are misguidedly trying to save money in the long term by trying to lower the numbers of people who default on huge medical bills they can't afford.

"Obama will force his values on everyone in the US. Like being black. We'll all have to walk around in baggy pants, wearing gold chains and talking how Marx was the shizzle fo rizzle."


Yay, I just got my daily dose of racism without tuning in to some crappy shock jock.


Obama is mixed, first of all.

Being black has nothing to do with values.

Republicans run on Christian and Family values, isn't it fair Democrats get to push Civic values?


"to walk around in baggy pants, wearing gold chains and talking how Marx was the shizzle fo rizzle"

Yeah hre in America we are free to dress how we want, and wear what ever metals we feel like, We can also have any political views we want (Carl Marx). We can also talk however we damn well please.

I'm going to say gays in the military. He'll probably make it mandatory to be gay in the military. Then we'll have the most powerful army in the world, it'll be like the Sacred Band of Thebes. Which should also fix the troop shortages in Afganistan, it's like two birds with one stone.

I know a few gay guys in the military, who have done more for this country than most ever will.

@WarOne, Hugging may be true of Yankee Dems, but us Blue Dog Dems of the south still have our bite.


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It DOES strike me that they could have just put the new insurance regulations in place without making taking out health insurance mandatory...


Remember the big fight about regulations, Stifling the market?

Remember Keep government out of the market?

Well there you go.


If insurance wasn't mandatory the Insurance companies would go under as people would just wait till they get sick to sign up.

It's a small price to pay knowing that nobody will ever die from lack of Insurance again.

Were they before? Nooo....

I would assume after health care the US should focus on their slowed amount of debt or their economy. Just saying, you know as an outside observer.

The debt can't be delt with until the economy picks up. Next up is stopping the second wave of home forclosings. And renewing a nuke treaty with Russia. While working on the Jobs bill. We should have done something about the debt last decade when things were good.

sexiest_hero wrote:We should have done something about the debt last decade when things were good.

True enough. If it makes you feel any better Canada worked on its debt for the past 10 years and then the conservatives got in and sided with Bush in his last term and dug us a nice hole again, countering the last 10 years of debt payback we had done.

So you might of just ended up in the same spot as you are know just with an even bigger army/Space/Health care program.

sexiest_hero wrote:"Obama will force his values on everyone in the US. Like being black. We'll all have to walk around in baggy pants, wearing gold chains and talking how Marx was the shizzle fo rizzle."


Yay, I just got my daily dose of racism without tuning in to some crappy shock jock.

You recieved a dose of sarcasm, not racism, please re-read the bottle...

sexiest_hero wrote:The debt can't be delt with until the economy picks up. Next up is stopping the second wave of home forclosings. And renewing a nuke treaty with Russia. While working on the Jobs bill. We should have done something about the debt last decade when things were good.

Sure it can, but it won't.

Gun control. O already said he hasn't forgotten about addressing gun control.

Not sure if it will be THE next step in line (I see Immigration first) but if not next it will follow Immigration.

The Dems just love trying to feth with our rights as citizens.

Albatross wrote:It DOES strike me that they could have just put the new insurance regulations in place without making taking out health insurance mandatory...

It's no longer possible for insurance companies to deny coverage to someone with a pre-existing condition. This means that people can wait until they're diagnosed with something serious and then get treatment, which is a big problem when you need healthy people buying insurance to pay for the sick ones. So, unfortunately, it means requiring people to get insurance.

How else can it be done?


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sexiest_hero wrote:We can also have any political views we want (Carl Marx).

Carl, while a successful dentist and fantastic dancer, never did receive the celebrity status of his brother.


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Fateweaver wrote:The Dems just love trying to feth with our rights as citizens.

A month ago you were complaining that he hadn't done anything. Now he's finally getting his act together and building his FEMA army to sieze your guns and arrest the Christians you still complain. Never satisfied.

I think the next big domestic issue is how to handle the economy once the first round of stimulus money runs out. A lot of the economic boost we've seen in the past year has been due to a quick infusion of cash for quick jobs (or the retention of jobs that would have otherwise been lost).

Obama was smart enough to not spend all the money at once...so we'll see how he'll spend the remainder of it when the economy threatens to double dip.

I wouldn't be surprised if the main focus was jobs.

Sadly, he has frozen government spending in some places that I would like to see get an increase, like the NIH and NSF budgets. Oh well...one thing at a time.


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sexiest_hero wrote:We should have done something about the debt last decade when things were good.

Um...we did.

As I recall, Clinton left the office with a budget SURPLUS.

sebster wrote:

Albatross wrote:It DOES strike me that they could have just put the new insurance regulations in place without making taking out health insurance mandatory...

It's no longer possible for insurance companies to deny coverage to someone with a pre-existing condition. This means that people can wait until they're diagnosed with something serious and then get treatment, which is a big problem when you need healthy people buying insurance to pay for the sick ones. So, unfortunately, it means requiring people to get insurance.

How else can it be done?


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sexiest_hero wrote:We can also have any political views we want (Carl Marx).

Carl, while a successful dentist and fantastic dancer, never did receive the celebrity status of his brother.


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Fateweaver wrote:The Dems just love trying to feth with our rights as citizens.

A month ago you were complaining that he hadn't done anything. Now he's finally getting his act together and building his FEMA army to sieze your guns and arrest the Christians you still complain. Never satisfied.

Nice one Sebby. The thread asks what our opinions are about what's next. He has mentioned reinstating the Clinton AWB. Nice way to attack me though.

Fateweaver wrote:The Dems just love trying to feth with our rights as citizens.

Conveniently forgetting we lost more privacy under Dubya than under Carter, Clinton or Obama.

Fateweaver wrote: Nice way to attack me though.

Wait.

You attack me by calling me a "UC flunkie" but then cry foul when you are attacked?

Fateweaver wrote:Nice one Sebby. The thread asks what our opinions are about what's next. He has mentioned reinstating the Clinton AWB. Nice way to attack me though.

Didn't know you were going to take that one seriously. Whoops.

I had no idea you were a UC flunkie. Now that I know my point doubly stands.

I didn't lose rights gorgon. Had the government wanted to tap my phones they would have only heard the occasion confirmation of work, planned dates with my female friends and the occasional phone sex talk.

If the government wants to listen to me talk about whats for dinner, fine by me so long as they leave my 2nd Amendment rights alone (which Dubya did).

Fateweaver wrote:

I didn't lose rights gorgon. Had the government wanted to tap my phones they would have only heard the occasion confirmation of work, planned dates with my female friends and the occasional phone sex talk.

If the government wants to listen to me talk about whats for dinner, fine by me so long as they leave my 2nd Amendment rights alone (which Dubya did).

Just because you don't give a flying **** about your Fourth Amendment rights doesn't mean you didn't lose them, Fateweaver.

...Warrantless wiretapping of US citizens is a clear violation of US law. In fact, the reason that the law (FISA) is there is because the government was badly abusing their powers in the not-so-distant past:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Okay you got me.

This healthcare bill was passed illegally as well.

I'm not saying Dubya had a squeaky clean Presidency but the Liberals have no room to cut Bush down for the illegal wiretap when Clinton lied under oath and now B.O illegally passed a HC Bill.

If you actually think that President Obama passed the healthcare bill...

Wow. And you own guns, too? Scary.

By the way - it's freaking hilarious that you're only now calling reconciliation "illegal." It's been used PLENTY in the last 20 years - most often by the Republicans:

http://www.slate.com/id/2245772/

pombe wrote:I think the next big domestic issue is how to handle the economy once the first round of stimulus money runs out. A lot of the economic boost we've seen in the past year has been due to a quick infusion of cash for quick jobs (or the retention of jobs that would have otherwise been lost).

Obama was smart enough to not spend all the money at once...so we'll see how he'll spend the remainder of it when the economy threatens to double dip.

I wouldn't be surprised if the main focus was jobs.

Sadly, he has frozen government spending in some places that I would like to see get an increase, like the NIH and NSF budgets. Oh well...one thing at a time.


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sexiest_hero wrote:We should have done something about the debt last decade when things were good.

Um...we did.

As I recall, Clinton left the office with a budget SURPLUS.

No thats not being mentioned. That would aleviate the crisis. The crisis is needed. The crisis is good.