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Alright stuff like this is happening to often. Yeterday my friend Gary and I went to a local comic book shop to play some 40k we both got a few games in but his last game apparently didnt go so well, the player he was playing was trying to put into play some custom rules he had for a few of his tau models and his hit points were way to high and some of the damage points were to little im not 100% sure on what all he did but my friend called him out on it a few times so he started to pack up his models and my friend wasnt trying to force him to stay but he wanted to finish the game I heard him say to the guy "dude dont be a wimp just quit trying to play your rules I dont agree with them stick to your codex please lets just finnish the game" exact words then this guy freaks the F out man.

First he started screaming something completly incoherent he drops his bag and picked up the table and flipped it with all of my friends models still on it and then he pushed over two more that both had people playing at them me being one of them but this was a completly unprovoked attack what the hell? Nobody else in the store had any problems we were all having fun. After this the guy picks up his gak and he bolted out the door a couple people tryed to chase him but he hopped into his car and drove off before anyone could get him but what is going on with players these days seriously? Me and my friend and three other people spent three hours that night searching the entire store for missing parts and minis. Thankfully my stuff didnt suffer to much damage but two of my brand new land speeders were completly smashed by the table and one of my rihnos is toast, but my friend gary lost alot of stuff and I mean alot hes also a space marine army player but hes chaos so he lost a lot of bits and other stuff.

The store owner was pissed he built all three of the gaming tables so our 40k seesions wont be going on for a bit this sucks and he actually replaced anyones main models like armor pieces and stuff like that that were broken which was really nice but expensive that came out of his pocket that store hasnt really made much profit yet its only been open two years going on three. why are there players like this out there this is supposed to be a really fun hobby that brings people together to have fun not to destroy peoples hard work

Yeah, that's pretty unreasonable conduct.

As a side note, it'd be really helpful if you could use proper punctuation and spacing (ie. paragraph separations). As it is, it was a bit difficult to read through this missive.

sorry for the bad puntcuation i tryed to as much as i could i was rushed to type im at school. hope its a little better now

BloodDrop101X wrote:First he started screaming something completly incoherent he drops his bag and picked up the table and flipped it with all of my friends models still on it and then he pushed over two more that both had people playing at them me being one of them but this was a completly unprovoked attack what the hell?

Man, this guy is like the Incredible Hulk. Hopefully he was banned from the store. He flipped over THREE tables?

Did this really happen? It is every gamer's nightmare.

At first I thought this guy was like any other 12-year old in a fit of nerd-rage...until you mentioned that he could drive.

He's at least 18, and he turns over almost an entire shop because people didn't like his rules?

Some people really take criticism seriously.

Valk

He really just turned two on their side but the first one went up length wise then landed on the table top that was the only one to actually flip their just fold out tables with the gaming boards on top so their light and banned oh yes the owner said if he see's him near the shop he wont hesitate to call the cops i hate to hear that but when someone does crazy stupid stuff like this over rules for a table top game they have some severe mental issues and shouldnt be roaming the streets i mean come on sometimes theres kids in the shop usually all the time lucky there wernt that day hes been around a few times nobody really had any problems with him except the rule thing hes tried that one a couple people i think

Valkyrie wrote:At first I thought this guy was like any other 12-year old in a fit of nerd-rage...until you mentioned that he could drive.

He's at least 18, and he turns over almost an entire shop because people didn't like his rules?

Some people really take criticism seriously.

Valk

Off-Topic: Drivers ages can vary from state to state in the US. He "could" have been 15 or 16.

Either way, he's more than old enough to know better. He may have gotten away in the car, but you guys should have been able to get his plate # as he drove off.

Too bad, though. Sorry about your friends stuff. You will meet losers from time to time. This one stirred up a hornet's nest.

Solorg wrote:

BloodDrop101X wrote:First he started screaming something completly incoherent he drops his bag and picked up the table and flipped it with all of my friends models still on it and then he pushed over two more that both had people playing at them me being one of them but this was a completly unprovoked attack what the hell?

Man, this guy is like the Incredible Hulk. Hopefully he was banned from the store. He flipped over THREE tables?

Did this really happen? It is every gamer's nightmare.

No my gamer nightmare involves my minis, a whole slew of pain pots nearby, and a young wiener dog who discovers a new happy playtime!

We got his plate # we just wernt sure if we could actually file anything against him and i think hes about 22
my friend gary said he knew someone who went to high school with him he saw him at party and the party was being hosted by my friends friend who knew that guy whew! that was hard to get that right hope thats not to confusing yeah im only 17 and i have no job so buying 35 dollar armor pieces is kind of hard to do one regular basis anyways i dont think my friend really knew the guy that well but he kind of knew who he was

kronk wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:At first I thought this guy was like any other 12-year old in a fit of nerd-rage...until you mentioned that he could drive.

He's at least 18, and he turns over almost an entire shop because people didn't like his rules?

Some people really take criticism seriously.

Valk

Off-Topic: Drivers ages can vary from state to state in the US. He "could" have been 15 or 16.

Either way, he's more than old enough to know better. He may have gotten away in the car, but you guys should have been able to get his plate # as he drove off.

Too bad, though. Sorry about your friends stuff. You will meet losers from time to time. This one stirred up a hornet's nest.

Whats the good of getting a plate number? Local PD won't care.

See thats what i thought i cant think of any charges for something like that all we could really do is rebuild have some more fun and be a little mre carful on who we invite for game night

Frazzled wrote:

Whats the good of getting a plate number? Local PD won't care.

I care. If this happened to me, my local PD will care when I make a big enough stink.

The store should call the police with the plate number, tell them the story. There's disorderly conduct and destruction of property. Then, have your friend get a police report about his broken army mans and then he can go after the guy in small claims court.

But that's just me. I'm vindictive and I hold a grudge. I'd gladly spend a few of my precious vacation days making court appearances to either get my money back or force him to file bankruptsy.

Im pretty vindictive myself ill tell my friend he now has some options ill ask him and the store owner what they want to do they had the most damage done to their property im still amazed steve replaced all our main models most of the tropps you can easily fix their near solid plastic cant say the same for armor pieces their hollow and more crunchy i alone had at least 90 dollars or more worth of just models destroyed and he gave us the main colors we would need to paint the models but he only gave each of us some primers and the colors for the basecoats and then the actual models them selfs but I'm sure as hell not complainong

kronk wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Whats the good of getting a plate number? Local PD won't care.

I care. If this happened to me, my local PD will care when I make a big enough stink.

The store should call the police with the plate number, tell them the story. There's disorderly conduct and destruction of property. Then, have your friend get a police report about his broken army mans and then he can go after the guy in small claims court.

But that's just me. I'm vindictive and I hold a grudge. I'd gladly spend a few of my precious vacation days making court appearances to either get my money back or force him to file bankruptsy.

-You can't make a big enough stink to make the police care. They'll take the info, but that will be it.
-you could track him and get him to small claims court but that would take a lot of effort. Its the better way if you can prove damages.

The best you could do is sue the guy for damaged your property. As long as the total cost of the damaged models exceeds $20.00. Take him to Judge Judy lol.

If you, your friend, the other guys that were playing, and the store owner all lodge a complaint, I'll bet you could force him to settle.

I saw a fist fight break out because a guy was too late to get into a Yu-Gi-Oh! tournament. The two men involved were easily over 25. There are some crazy people out there.

Yeah we could were all really mad, but we all tend to let stuff like this go we are all just trying to have fun and get along. Most of the guys that come to game night are really laid back and dont want to cause trouble for anyone. This might go further but I doubt it I personally dont want it to just end here so I mght press the issue.

The lack of periods makes me more than a little bit crazy. Do you actually talk like that???

Wait just saw your location. Which store was this?

Are there witnesses or even better store CCTV?

If so you could in theory take this idiot to small claims court to get damages for the ruined figures. I don't see police action being realistic.

Im not in Austin anymore or Texas for that matter I didnt realise I never changed my location. Im in Arizona now the shop is called new and used books its a combination store of books and comics and models, but there is only like one and a half shelves of modeling stuff and there is 40k on one side Fantasy on the other then the half shelf is paints and stuff.

It's probably too late now to press the issue unless you took photos of the wreckage and have a consensus about what happened. The way you describe it there were at least three games going on, so including the owner there were at least six people in the store that can testify.

Obviously it's upsetting when your army gets smashed, and I imagine in the moments following the rampage you guys were freaking out. Despite that, someone should have called the police. What he did was criminal mischief at least, plus disturbing the peace, and willful destruction of property. If anyone got hit by a table, chair, or flying mini, or if he threw a punch or barged past people to flee the scene, that's assault.

Anyone not calling police needs to take photos of the damage, then wait for the police and ask them to take photos. After the police leave, gather up every broken model, no matter how slightly damaged, and make a written and photographic record.

It sounds like a lot of work, doesn't it? Going after this guy is also a lot of work, but you know what? In a months time you'll stew over the fact this jerk got away with his rampage scot free, while you, your friends and the owner get to replace and repair all the damage. You got attacked, the store got attacked, and you're waffling over whether to pursue this ass? Grow a pair and get busy!

If you bring the perpetrator to court you'll feel a lot better in the end, and he'll get a lesson in manners.

Frazzled wrote:No my gamer nightmare involves my minis, a whole slew of pain pots nearby, and a young wiener dog who discovers a new happy playtime!

Can we play yet?

Im surprised the guy didnt leave the store in an ambulance tbh.....

Frazzled wrote:
-You can't make a big enough stink to make the police care. They'll take the info, but that will be it.
-you could track him and get him to small claims court but that would take a lot of effort. Its the better way if you can prove damages.

I guess it depends on the police commisioner where you live, etc. And I know that in many places cops won't give a darn about your toy mans, but I guess I've been lucky about where I've lived. I've only had a few minor issues were I was wronged, but in both cases, i got swift and corrective responses from the local PD.

I guess I'm saying that it never hurts to call.

ShivanAngel wrote:Im surprised the guy didnt leave the store in an ambulance tbh.....

Same.

If someone pulled this crap on my stuff, you better believe my fist would meet his face a couple of times.

Wow, it sounds like that guy has some serious problems, I have never seen anything like that before

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:I saw a fist fight break out because a guy was too late to get into a Yu-Gi-Oh! tournament. The two men involved were easily over 25. There are some crazy people out there.

You had me at "Over 25 and Yu-Gi-Oh!"