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If for some reason GW were to ask you for advice to change ONE thing in any codex or rule book what would it be and why?
please keep down to earth. I too would like every IG to come equiped with power weapons but that wouldnt be reasonable.

Mine would be Space marine Sternguard Vets to have a BS 5. If their the best marksmen in the Chapter that would show it. Combined with special issue ammunition they would be even deadlyer. But to balance this take out the options for heavy weapons all togeather. Only options for Combi-bolters.

Matt65 wrote:If for some reason GW were to ask you for advice to change ONE thing in any codex or rule book what would it be and why?
please keep down to earth.

Remove ©GamesWorkshop from the books, make them opensource.

Let Bjorn The Fell Handed be Drop Podded.

I also would give Tau Fire warriors and ALL Tau units in the codex a BS skill of 4 instead of 3 and drones of a BS of 3. This would INSTANTLY make them a competitive army worthy of Finals instead of
the only good armies being Guard, Marines and their equivalent and armies like eldar and Orks etc....you know all the main stream armies.

allow units in cover to take cover saves, then armor saves if applicable. (such as a marine in 4+ cover taking heavy bolter hits, could take his 4+ save then his 3+ save if he failed.)

I would let Deffkoptas have burnas. Is that too much to ask?

Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:

Matt65 wrote:If for some reason GW were to ask you for advice to change ONE thing in any codex or rule book what would it be and why?
please keep down to earth.

Remove ©GamesWorkshop from the books, make them opensource.

Nice.

Does the change have to be from their books? What about the website? I'd change the location of the decimal point in tehir prices.

I would either a) add a chaos lord retinue/honour guard equivalent unit to the CSM book or b) add a way to make terminators or chosen fearless.

Let me fix all the unclear nonsense surrounding Dreadnought CCWs and Attacks values. Why does a CSM Dreadnought get an extra attack from one DCCW but two from the one on the other arm? Why does Ork Deff Dread NOT get extra attacks from multiple DCCW's??? Why does the Ironclad get an extra attack from "two different special weapons???????" *Head Explodes*

Sorry. I like walkers. This sort of silliness bothers me irrational.

Make it say that Warptime ACTUALLY does work every PLAYER TURN (meaning 10-14 castings per game) instead of letting people 'interpret' it.
Really. I am so sick of hearing IT SAYS 'PLAYER TURN' SO AUTOMATICALLY IT MEANS YOURS RIGHT? WELL YOU'RE RUNNING IT ON DAEMON PRINCES WHO CARES!


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Dear GW,
PLEASE GOD OH PLEASE OH PLEASE change the wording on Warptime in the next Chaos codex.
If I hear another person say that 'next player turn' means only mine, my head will explode.

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:Make it say that Warptime ACTUALLY does work every PLAYER TURN (meaning 10-14 castings per game) instead of letting people 'interpret' it.
Really. I am so sick of hearing IT SAYS 'PLAYER TURN' SO AUTOMATICALLY IT MEANS YOURS RIGHT? WELL YOU'RE RUNNING IT ON DAEMON PRINCES WHO CARES!

"This power is used at the start of any player's turn....for the entirety of that player's turn."

How could it possibly be debated?

And if I could change one thing, it would be to make Shuriken Catapults as deadly as they were pre-3rd edition.

I've had multiple people try to claim that you can only cast psychic powers on your turn or something like that. Very frustrating

I would get rid of the 'No assalting after firing a rapid fire weapon', it's soooo unrealistic

Vasarto wrote:Let Bjorn The Fell Handed be Drop Podded.

I also would give Tau Fire warriors and ALL Tau units in the codex a BS skill of 4 instead of 3 and drones of a BS of 3. This would INSTANTLY make them an OP army worthy of Finals instead of
the only good armies being Guard, Marines and their equivalent and armies like eldar and Orks etc....you know all the main stream armies.

Fixed. I would change Pulse Carbines to 21" range / Assault 2

Make the game a true d10/d20 system. Give a bit of wider diversity to the units stats, and have it all fit in a bit better with the fluff as well.

Che-Vito wrote:Make the game a true d10/d20 system. Give a bit of wider diversity to the units stats, and have it all fit in a bit better with the fluff as well.

oh lord, this would be awesome, but unless they did it right the rules would become clunky beyond belief

Joetaco wrote:

Che-Vito wrote:Make the game a true d10/d20 system. Give a bit of wider diversity to the units stats, and have it all fit in a bit better with the fluff as well.

oh lord, this would be awesome, but unless they did it right the rules would become clunky beyond belief

Somebody will probably post in response "play Inquisitor". My response...if the system could be done right...I'd rather play 40k with a difference between Guard and Tau BS, where armor saves have a wide variety, and where vehicles have a wider range of AV. etc. etc.

Oh, but to dream!

Che-Vito wrote:

Joetaco wrote:

Che-Vito wrote:Make the game a true d10/d20 system. Give a bit of wider diversity to the units stats, and have it all fit in a bit better with the fluff as well.

oh lord, this would be awesome, but unless they did it right the rules would become clunky beyond belief

Somebody will probably post in response "play Inquisitor". My response...if the system could be done right...I'd rather play 40k with a difference between Guard and Tau BS, where armor saves have a wide variety, and where vehicles have a wider range of AV. etc. etc.

Oh, but to dream!

Actually a d12 would probably be the best idea.

I would change the "We must update MEQs every other codex" rule.

If I could change one thing, and ONLY one thing?


Celestians would be equipped for close combat: bolt pistols and close combat weapons, and frag grenades, for free.

Both sides shoot during the shooting phase. (of course then you'd have to change some other rules and point costs but that's for later)


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Alternately, A Moves, A Shoots, B Moves, B Shoots, A Charges, B Charges, Resolve Melee.

So yes, I think that battles in the future should not be so Melee based. I'd like each side to have one (1) round of Shooting for each round of Melee.

Basic Rule change- one that has seemed slowed since 3rd edition came out.

Let squad based heavy/special weapons fire at a seperate target than the small arms in a squad. This crap of having to fire the bolters & lasguns at a tank so the lascannon/Missile/MM can is slowed(or having to fire the the heavy at a grot insted of the dread/tank farther away). The justification of 'represents the other troops bringing up ammo or taking cover' is some of the weakest GW crap written.

Mistress of minis wrote:Let squad based heavy/special weapons fire at a seperate target than the small arms in a squad.

I support this as well!

I would get rid of space marines being burnt by plasma weapons. Their armour is so thick!

I dont like the fact that you get close combats where it is impossible for one side to hurt the other. I realise that things like wraithlords are very tough to wound but I find it hard to believe that if 30 orks all ganged up on it at the same time for 5 turns, they wouldn't be able to damage it in any way. Even if they needed 6, then a further 6 on another roll to wound that would be preferable imo. There should at least be a chance, even if its remote.

It would either be that or some form of overwatch being brought back. With assault marines and winged demon princes, I think if you have a unit of short ranged shooters like guardians, and there is a demon prince hiding behind a rock 18" away, the guardians should be able to not fire and brace themselves for the upcoming assault instead. As soon as the demon prince comes into range, they should be able to shoot their normal shots at -1 or -2 BS.

Ahriman of the Thousand Sons would cause all models with the Mark of Tzeentch in his army, including himself, to automatically pass psychic tests and be immune to abilities that affect Psychic Powers such as Nullzone and Runes of Warding.

In a perfect world...

Boss Scar wrote:I would get rid of space marines being burnt by plasma weapons. Their armour is so thick!

Then there would be no point of plasma weaponry.

Melissia wrote:

Boss Scar wrote:I would get rid of space marines being burnt by plasma weapons. Their armour is so thick!

Then there would be no point of plasma weaponry.

This one. If plasma weapons couldn't burn space marines, they probably wouldn't be AP2. I always interpreted the fact you still get an armor save as the situation being that you irritated the machine spirit and it vented excess plasma all up in your face (that vent IS on the top of the plasma gun right next to your face, after all). It's not a full blast of plasma; just the excess from the tank, ergo it's no guarantee that it cuts through your armor.

Dropping BLASTAS from the Ork dex, and instead making GITFINDAS a 5pt upgrade to add +1 to BS

Make the CSM codex interesting again.

Only way that could happen is if they removed Marines entirely and focused on Daemons.


Oh wait they already did that...