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I read in the web lore page of this months WD that games-workshop.com are putting up two PDF Codices, one Daemonhunters and the other being Witch Hunters. It says:

"Go and register on the Games Workshop website to access the archive of PDF articles, including two massive downloads in the form of Codex: Daemonhunters and Codex: Witch Hunters. The downloads contain full rules for using the Daemonhunters and Witch Hunters in your games of Warhammer 40,000."

I have looked all over the Astronomican section of the website but so far I have found diddly squat.

Update: it should be out sometime this year is what other forums are saying any thoughts on this?

I don't believe they're up yet. I think the only timeframe we have is 'June'.

Other forums are saying this.

Any word on whether they are going to be in current form, updates, or new codexes? I would like new codexes but that may be a bit crack pipe ish.

It doesn't look likely that they will get an update but you never know

When the French-language translations sold out a few years ago, they put it on the website for download, and a couple of minor changes were made - Inferno Pistols gained the Melta rule and psycannons were changed in some way which currently escapes me.

Odds are, the website will simply offer the current codices in .pdf form without the fluff or hobby sections. If there are any changes, they will be as above.

The odds of, say, adjusting the points for Rhinos to what everyone else pays are very low, or so it would seem.

Still, we'll know soon enough.

German and French version (re)-uploaded, English version not yet.
See this closed thread: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/296783.page

(It ended with the hope that someone will start a new thread if it is uploaded, look what happened )

grizgrin wrote:Any word on whether they are going to be in current form, updates, or new codexes? I would like new codexes but that may be a bit crack pipe ish.

It's the "current" ones, we're waiting to see if we get the 100% complete books or just the army list related bits.

Spanish WD says the same, but the .pdf files haven't been uploaded yet.

Since Spanish WD is now a translation of the English WD (it used to have original content years ago) I hope we are really gonna get that .pdfs, and that it's not just the English announcement translated ¬¬

reds8n wrote:

grizgrin wrote:Any word on whether they are going to be in current form, updates, or new codexes? I would like new codexes but that may be a bit crack pipe ish.

It's the "current" ones, we're waiting to see if we get the 100% complete books or just the army list related bits.

My bet's on just army list related.

They usually put a codex up as a PDF when they've got a new 'dex planned for sometime in the next 2-3 years.

At least, that's what I've gathered through my 11 or 12 years with GW

They probably just don't see it as profitable to print off another run of the old books.

Do you guys/gals have it uploaded in the English website? It still isn't in the Spanish one.

Melissia wrote:They probably just don't see it as profitable to print off another run of the old books.

Well that's pretty much it. If they're updating within the next couple years, what's the point of printing old books? Considering how few Sisters players there are, there wouldn't be much money in it. Best to wait until they come out with a new dex and plastic kits, as more people would probably play them, or at least use some of the bits for conversions.

~ 1-1.5 years is what I approximate for Sisters . >1 year for Grey Knights.

Regardless, quite a few people don't buy Sisters models because they're all metal. Just look at the BoLS Blog's recent post by Goatboy-- he ranted about metal, and a lot of commenters did, too. There are a few people that really like metal, but most people hate it.

Well people hoped for the same speed with Space Wolves, and that took GW what... 2 1/2 - 3 years? And let's not even start on Blood Angels and their Codex from the pits of hell (Aka the mind of Matt "C.S. Goto" Ward)

Remember how many marine chapters they have to do/redo/re-redo first

But yea, I count myself among those that despise pewter. It's absolute rubbish. It's impossible to assemble without GS, a file, and a drill, paint -will not- stick to it without a sealer, it's heavy and akward on anything that isn't perfectly level and solid, and you can get the same level of detail for less money on a plastic mini. I see very little logic in pewter. It seems GW does as well and that's why they've pulled Sisters, Kasrkin (Yes, they've pulled Kasrkin off the shelves. My FLGS confirmed that GW is no longer shipping them unless it's for Customer-specific order. So... Plastic Kasrkin! *Squee!*), the Pewter Daemon Prince, and a slew of other metal units.

So even if they don't get a new Codex, you can at least be confident that they'll get a plastic range

Yes, but we've had a few rumors about that subject. We know JJ has said Sisters will be the last of the third edition armies to be redone, which ideally means sometime middle or late next year, after DE, GK, and Necrons, possibly with another SM codex thrown in if GW really absolutely has to (GKs are Marines, hopefully they'll sate their appetite for balding old musclebuilders).

Melissia wrote:Yes, but we've had a few rumors about that subject. We know JJ has said Sisters will be the last of the third edition armies to be redone

Do we know that? When did he say it?

Melissia wrote: We know JJ has said Sisters will be the last of the third edition armies to be redone

I would like a link to where he has said this? Anything really that can confirm he has actually said this.

Melissia wrote:Yes, but we've had a few rumors about that subject. We know JJ has said Sisters will be the last of the third edition armies to be redone, which ideally means sometime middle or late next year, after DE, GK, and Necrons, possibly with another SM codex thrown in if GW really absolutely has to (GKs are Marines, hopefully they'll sate their appetite for balding old musclebuilders).

You forgot T'au. And I'm pretty sure we'll see another regular marine chapter thrown in for good measure as well :(

J.Black wrote:

Melissia wrote:Yes, but we've had a few rumors about that subject. We know JJ has said Sisters will be the last of the third edition armies to be redone, which ideally means sometime middle or late next year, after DE, GK, and Necrons, possibly with another SM codex thrown in if GW really absolutely has to (GKs are Marines, hopefully they'll sate their appetite for balding old musclebuilders).

You forgot T'au. And I'm pretty sure we'll see another regular marine chapter thrown in for good measure as well :(

Tau are in their 4th edition codex.

No, I didn't. Their last codex was updated in fourth edition.

The list of remaining third edition codices is thus:

Codex: Daemonhunters
Codex: Dark Eldar
Codex: Necrons
Codex: Witch Hunters (AKA, Codex: Sisters of Battle, oh, and let's copy-paste some stuff from DH in, too)

Melissia wrote:Codex: Witch Hunters (AKA, Codex: Sisters of Battle, oh, and let's copy-paste some stuff from DH in, too)

You're such a joker.

I wish I was.

Geez, someone's a little butthurt.

Yes, I do quite wish they had expanded my army instead of stuffing some irrelevant crap from another codex in instead. I think it's hardly unreasonable

Imagine if Marines were reduced to basically ~11 choices (as if that would ever happen given 5thEd.) and stuffed into the Guard codex, who had their unit choices reduced to ~7 and overcosted. That's basically what C:WH is. Some people would probably like this, and I have nothing kind to say about them, so suffice to to say I am not one of them.

Melissia wrote:Imagine if Marines were reduced to basically ~11 choices (as if that would ever happen given 5thEd.) and stuffed into the Guard codex, who had their unit choices reduced to ~7 and overcosted. That's basically what C:WH is.

That's not even remotely what C:WH is.

The original Sisters codex from 2nd Edition introduced Sisters as an Ecclesiarchal force.
The 3rd edition codex shifted them into an Inquisitorial arm, yes... but gave them more unit options, not less.

So, seriously, stop complaining about how hard done by the sisters are in every single thread. They'll continue to expand each time their codex is revised, just like everyone else has.

I actually rather like the Inquisition units in C: DH and C:WH. Most of the inquisition units are not overcosted. Arco-Flagellants and Daemonhosts are sweet. And Inquisitors are quite useful. That's why they are C: DH and C:WH not C:Grey Knights and C: Sisters of Battle.

ITs the Sisters I'm not so fond of. They seem out of place in 40k. Semi-attractive S&M chicks in leather coarsest just don't do it for me. They were a bad idea when first introduced and continue to be a bad idea today. After all that's why they will be the LAST 3E codex redone.

insaniak wrote:

Melissia wrote:Imagine if Marines were reduced to basically ~11 choices (as if that would ever happen given 5thEd.) and stuffed into the Guard codex, who had their unit choices reduced to ~7 and overcosted. That's basically what C:WH is.

That's not even remotely what C:WH is.

The original Sisters codex from 2nd Edition introduced Sisters as an Ecclesiarchal force.
The 3rd edition codex shifted them into an Inquisitorial arm, yes... but gave them more unit options, not less.

So, seriously, stop complaining about how hard done by the sisters are in every single thread. They'll continue to expand each time their codex is revised, just like everyone else has.

Thank you.

ditto.

C:WH doesn't have access to daemonhosts, and arco-flagellants ARE overpriced (they >half as much as terminators).

insaniak wrote:That's not even remotely what C:WH is.

Compared to fifth edition? Yes, it most certainly is. And compared to what Sisters could have gotten if the goddamned Inquisition wasn't copy/pasted from the DH codex in order to advertise for the failing Inquisitor specialist game? Very much yes. So no, I won't. Frak the Inquisition.