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I tried avoiding writing about Lady Gaga for a really long time. Wasn't interested. She's just a disposable pop singer with no observable talent, like most disposable pop singers.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/why-its-time-to-stop-paying-attention-to-lady-gaga/

I weep for the future.

...that is all.

And she is richer than probably anyone on Dakka. Her music may not have merit artistically but she does sell her product.

You cant stop what you never did in the first place mate, i give less than a gak about that skinny wonky nosed slapper.

mattyrm wrote:You cant stop what you never did in the first place mate, i give less than a gak about that skinny wonky nosed slapper.

neither did I...

pretty sure the point is to read the article. as it speaks the truth.

I don't get the hate for her. At least she has one or two decent songs, that's *alot* more than I can say for other big name artists of the moment.

Gorgeous Gary Golden wrote:I don't get the hate for her. At least she has one or two decent songs, that's *alot* more than I can say for other big name artists of the moment.

I'm the kind of guy who actually didn't mind hearing that Bad Romance one in the background for a while (If I didn't really pay attention to the words), then I saw the actual music video. Leather, Asian haircuts and synchornised bondage...stuff. This monster is as tasteless as Ke$ha and nearly as cheap.

Im impressed she can really sing , that speaks alot for pop star now days

Hehehe, you know, I didn't really care one way or the other about the issue in hand, but that was a pretty funny article there, good reading...If she didn't scare me so much I'd bad mouth her more...

People just don't understand Gaga. Her entire identity represents the jaded, cynical outlook of modern society. She's a pop star for the sake of getting famous, and she's open and honest about it, and for that people hate her. In that respect, all the knowitalls on DakkaDakka should worship her.

Perhaps the haters don't subscribe to that view of society.

I really like "Telephone". Also, she's a talented designer.

I'm not a fan of her work, but she is definitely a talented musician multitalented artist. There will always be scene kids who think the only acceptable genre of music is their preference.

Lady Gaga gives confused young gay men and transvestites direction in life. If there's anything a young gay man needs, it's a good director.

The author wrote:Representatives of PETA were furious at her attempt to sexualize the murder of animals, parents with young children were outraged at her risky behavior and diehard fans of both meat and naked chicks were heartbroken at her flagrant disregard for both appetites and erections.

And that's when I realized that I needed to say something.

Argument starts with PETA and ends with a punchline. He uses the exact same format of joke three more times throughout the article. Talk about unoriginal.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:Argument starts with PETA and ends with a punchline. He uses the exact same format of joke three more times throughout the article. Talk about unoriginal.

aww did that article hurt your feelings?


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I dislike the said or un-said worship of any one person. that being said, I also live by this quote,

"Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to."
— Jim Jarmusch

THAT being said. Her outright admission to embodying pop culture for the sake of becoming popular goes against everything I know as an artist, and I cannot respect her for it.


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Nurglitch wrote:Also, she's a talented designer.

I don't want to know what you wear....

IG_urban wrote:

Arctik_Firangi wrote:Argument starts with PETA and ends with a punchline. He uses the exact same format of joke three more times throughout the article. Talk about unoriginal.

aww did that article hurt your feelings?

Not in the slightest. My point was that the author has stepped in a warm puddle of his own irony. If he subscribes to PETA's moral compass he's an idiot in my opinion but I'm not going to start on that topic.

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I dislike the said or un-said worship of any one person. that being said, I also live by this quote,

"Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to."
— Jim Jarmusch

THAT being said. Her outright admission to embodying pop culture for the sake of becoming popular goes against everything I know as an artist, and I cannot respect her for it.

*golf clap*

I do not personally like her music at all and I find her other displays to be pretty morally objectionable. It would appear, however, that she is just as good at promotion as songwriting. She is still an artist, and you don't have to respect her for it.

Yeah, like that dude that did that Jesus statue in a giant tank of horse urine...still an artist, but you don't have to respect him for it!

I find her "style" to be morally neutral of itself. It's the vacuity that offends me.

That was a very stupid article.

Let's start with this:

She's Not An Artist -- Former roommates have said that there was "nothing that would tip you off that she had this Warhol-esque, 'new art' extremism," she was just a regular chick....There was a moment where she decided "This act won't sell. Let's come up with one that does." Her whole authentic, artistic character was decided by committee in a marketing meeting. Maybe she's smarter than everyone else who is struggling to break into the music industry. She saw how completely slowed pop culture was and decided to embrace it. She found out what was going to attract attention and exploited it to turn into a star, in a celebrity-by-numbers sort of way. As a businesswoman, she is incredibly shrewd--the amount of magazine covers, awards and nominations she's gotten in the past year alone is staggering. But she's not an artist, she's a product.

Andy Warhol isn't remembered because he was such a brilliant artist. His art is pretty simplistic. Any of us, who paint miniatures, could match Warhol in terms of quality of technique. He's remembered because of his brilliant ability to see that there was no difference between commercial art and fine art, and to meld the two together along with a branded identity to create a fully-functioning commerical fine artist. He didn't even make his own art, he had interns churning it out in a loft he literally called "The Factory."

Andy Warhol wasn't an artist, he was a product. That's the point.

So far this article is 0 for 1, having proven that Lady Gaga is a mediocre artist who has achieved mega stardom by ruthlessly exploiting the foibles and fickle faddishness of hipsters. Just like Andy Warhol.

She's Not A Fashion Icon -- Lady Gaga's look varies from day to day, concert to concert, magazine cover to magazine cover; so it's tough to pinpoint what, exactly, her place in the fashion world is. Her costumes, always surprising and Avant Garde,...Her insane looks are inspiring actual fashion designers in real life who are creating outfits meant to mirror her style....I know as much about fashion as I do about getting mustard stains out of white T-shirts which, as you can probably guess, is very little....I know nothing about fashion, is my point...

You can't claim that Gaga is always surprising an avant garde, and that she's inspiring actual fashion designers, and then claim Gaga isn't a fashion icon. That does not compute. But it does prove he knows nothing about fashion, I have to give him that.

She's Not Original -- They look at her and say, "Well, at least there's no one else out there just like her,"...She is exactly one part Madonna and one part Marilyn Manson....

Even if we grant this premise (and I don't see the Marilyn Manson) she's not Madonna or Marilyn Manson, she's some unique fusion of the two. The author goes on quite a bit about how Gaga gets all this attention, but that isn't proof of a lack of originality. Anyways, originality is either impossible (Madonna borrowed from Rita Hayworth, Marilyn Monroe, etc. Manson borrowed from David Bowie (who i think is the bigger influence on Gaga), Alice Cooper, etc.) if you want to be anal about it.

I'm not a fan of Lady Gaga, but this author only managed to illustrate what a force to be reckoned with she is, and how brilliantly she has manipulated her way to the top of the pop culture food chain in such a short time. Pretty amazing for a chick who isn't much of a singer or all that great looking.

And personally, I do like the way she totally mocks the existence of crap merchants like Brittney Spears and her infinite clones.


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Jihadnik wrote:Yeah, like that dude that did that Jesus statue in a giant tank of horse urine...still an artist, but you don't have to respect him for it!

Piss Christ is a 1987 photograph by photographer Andres Serrano. It depicts a small plastic crucifix submerged in a glass of the artist's urine.



Part of a larger series of works, the vast majority of people who cite this artwork only vaguely (and incorrectly) remember the controversy. Few have ever actually seen the work, a photograph (no tank of urine was ever displayed), which is quite beautiful, and thus few understand its artistic purpose -- which is to explore the ability of the artist, like Christ, to transcend the base and material nature of the world and redeem it through the imposition of an artistic view. The artist, a gay Spaniard living with AIDS at a time when the Catholic church in Spain was particularly intolerant, also sought to raise awareness of AIDs and gay rights issues through his work.

Don't be a philistine. Anyone who can't recognize the artistic merit of Serrano's work has no place discussing art. Stick to dogs playing poker on velvet, the art world doesn't want or need your opinions.

She's quite unique and unusual, definitely has a style and appearance of her own and has some fun, catchy songs. I don't get the hate either, simply turn the wireless off if you don't like it and don't buy her music. I don't see her on TV much, but that's because I watch the BBC not MTV or whatever.

Lady GaGa is a shapeshifting she-beast from the depths of outer space. That is all.

4 out of the 9 singles that she has released have been UK number ones.

Surely that fact alone means that she has merit as a commercial artist.

You may not think that she has merit as a singer/fashion icon/performer/celebrity, but the 50 million singles that she has sold beg to differ.

Admittedly her music style may not agree with everyone, but many people do enjoy it.

Well, fascism was popular in the 1930s - it doesn't mean it was a good thing.

That said, people who whine about things like Twilight, Avatar or Lady Gaga are far more irritating than the things they are complaining about.

When did people become such whiny little pussies?

Just don't watch/listen to/worry about it and you'll be fine.

Anyone who paid attention to her in the first place is a dumbass.

Musical tastes are like a**holes: Everyone has one and nobody thinks their own stinks.

Gaga isn't my cup of tea, but I'm not gonna climb up on a high horse to proclaim how superior I am for not liking her. We get it people, you think you are "cool"...

Albatross wrote:Well, fascism was popular in the 1930s - it doesn't mean it was a good thing.

That said, people who whine about things like Twilight, Avatar or Lady Gaga are far more irritating than the things they are complaining about.

When did people become such whiny little pussies?

Just don't watch/listen to/worry about it and you'll be fine.

I have the same ideology, the problem is, THATS a dying thing these days

I remember when I was 12 and thought hating on popular bands was the height of edginess and non-sheepitude.

What I've heard (which admittedly isn't much, I'm more of an NPR guy than music stations) I've liked. I've probably heard more people crabbing about her than actual air-time of her music though. Wonder why people think it's a new thing. Has there ever been a period of time folks weren't railing on a mega-successful pop star as being a sell-out/lousy/exploitative/morally poisonous individual?

Good for her for making a fortune at a young age. Wish I was smart/daring/ambitious/clever/lucky enough to do it.

EDIT: Isn't Cracked a humor magazine like MAD? Why in the world would anybody take it seriously?

Norwulf wrote:Lady GaGa is a shapeshifting she-beast from the depths of outer space. That is all.

Too true.

I think LG is more a testament to how slowed the pop music industry is in general than any actual talent.


If she were "shape-shifting" I'd think she wouldn't be so damned ugly...


Oh, and She's a MAN,Man!

1-UP wrote:Isn't Cracked a humor magazine like MAD? Why in the world would anybody take it seriously?

Yeah, a good deal of their articles have this very *Bro* feeling of dumb about them.

Would.