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This is ironic 'cause I haven't thought about Lady Gaga for days, and then you bring her up.

Good job broham.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

Would.

Seconded, with this caveat.



Would not. She looks like some sort of Khorne Champion that just rampaged through Sesame Street.

As to the article, I smiled a couple of times but it's really just unnecessary. I'll take Gaga over the hip-hop nightmare that popular music has been for the last decade or so. However, calling her a Shrieking Shemale Star-Goblin was quite funny.

That was a black day for the Muppet's

To me she just comes across as a toned down pop version of Marlyn Manson, same deal just repackaged for a wider audience.

If this article was going for humor they could have done a better job. If they were being remotely serious they could have done a much better job.

Her whole authentic, artistic character was decided by committee in a marketing meeting.

Not really. She had the image before she got signed. Technically it was a product of her and New York DJ Lady Starlight's collaboration, with varying amounts of Rob Fusari thrown in. Check out these awesome stories:

Gaga copies Roisin Murphy!
Gaga copies Lina Morgana, some suicidal chick!
No wait, Lady Gaga really copied Grace Jones!
Just kidding, she really copies Madonna!

So yeah. bs.

I know nothing about fashion, is my point, which is why I'm uniquely qualified to talk about Lady Gaga's wardrobe choices, because she doesn't either.

Interesting considering that many of her outfits are made by top designers (the ones who get to make up what "fashion" is for that 5 seconds ). He doesn't really have a leg to stand on here.

The third point is the exact same thing as the first one. She never claims to be original. She does what she wants. She talks about playing more traditional music and being what people expected of her then trying new things and loving them more. It's really not uncommon for people to change musical style over the years. But whatever. Haters gonna hate




Side note: I've never seen an artist unite a fan base like she has. That in itself is pretty remarkable. This came to mind as well

Emperors Faithful wrote:

I'm the kind of guy who actually didn't mind hearing that Bad Romance one in the background for a while (If I didn't really pay attention to the words), then I saw the actual music video. Leather, Asian haircuts and synchornised bondage...stuff. This monster is as tasteless as Ke$ha and nearly as cheap.

Wrong video completely and try watching more than one before you compare her to Ke$ha.

Now, I am in no way a Gaga fan, but; Cannerus, congratulations, you just earned my respect.

I swear I died inside a little. I hate lady gaga.

I'll just put this here.



and this...

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Now, I am in no way a Gaga fan, but; Cannerus, congratulations, you just earned my respect.

Ha! How was that exactly?

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Now, I am in no way a Gaga fan, but; Cannerus, congratulations, you just earned my respect.

Ha! How was that exactly?

Simple-It was a well reasoned argument that was devoid of the usual e-rage I see (*braces himself for hate comments*), and combined with the fact you've always been an open and genrally cool guy in the past I just feel like now I really do respect you in a way that I don't many other people.

As a side note, you're avatar reminds me of my Uncle.

Awesome! You sir deserve some sort of reward for having impeccable taste in persons. And who doesn't love it when "Uncle Cannerus" comes to visit

I guess a bunch of people have already said it but I'm going to say it again anyway.... who pays attention to lady gaga anyway?

If you're ever genuinely offended by an article on Cracked, or you try and point out the flaws in the writer's logic, you fail to see the point of the website in it's entirety. If you can't even laugh at yourself, then you're a spineless hypocrite.

On the other hand, genuine rage towards popular media is always worse than the catalyst. If you think this article is anything more than a great laugh, then chances are that you're fueling something much worse than the source of your hatred.

Dont go out of my way to listen to her music, but it doesent bother me.

Rather have her music flooding the radio while im at work than gakky rap, emo and other gak.





Now, can we please turn all hate this way:

http://www.cracked.com/funny-4433-ke24ha/?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=topic&wa_user3=topic&wa_user4=topics

After my poor attempt at humour, I will stress I have no issue with Gaga. My wife has the Fame Monster album and I like a few of the songs, in the same way although not a massive fan, I've liked a few Madonna songs over the years.

She does remind me of Manson though, as in, regardless of his actual musical talent (I am actaully a fan saying that) he certainly knew use the fanbase to get where he wanted to be.


On a side note, I seem to remember her saying in an interview she drew inspiration for her costumes from everywhere including the net.
With that in mind something has been bugging me, in Alejandro with her heavy Catholic theme, there is a sci-fi costume you see her in, only see her top half I think, but it looks like a parody of a Sister of Battle suit, she even has a hairstyle that looks like a SoB, its blinkin odd, but I do wonder if she saw a SoB pic.




edit - missed a bit of text, blinkin head'ache.

Chrysaor686 wrote:If you're ever genuinely offended by an article on Cracked, or you try and point out the flaws in the writer's logic, you fail to see the point of the website in it's entirety. If you can't even laugh at yourself, then you're a spineless hypocrite.

On the other hand, genuine rage towards popular media is always worse than the catalyst. If you think this article is anything more than a great laugh, then chances are that you're fueling something much worse than the source of your hatred.

Nice rule #1 evasion there I honestly didn't think it was funny or "well-written" regardless. Something Awful > Cracked if there is there usual standard.

@Mor: Yeah, a lot of the fans are still weirded out by Alejandro and Telephone to a lesser extent. That one outfit is pretty grimdark, though she has a few other grimdark outfits as well.

AbaddonFidelis wrote:I guess a bunch of people have already said it but I'm going to say it again anyway.... who pays attention to lady gaga anyway?

obliviously you, and quite a few people with the same sentiments as you....as they are posting in this thread.

I guess my issue is the mindless fandom effect you get with ultrapop stars.... The same thing happens. You can go back 30 years and it's still there. My issue is with that die-hard, creepy, almost zombie like fandom of a group, or one group of people....that fades into nothingness, or gets transplanted, in a very short period of time. A large percent of this fanbase is just jumping on the bandwagon, which brings me to the even more disturbing underlying (IMHO) cause. Lack of one's own self. So much of the American (and international) culture is so lost, they just follow the heard for fear of being ostracized. It disturbs me. And it just so happens that Lady Gaga is at the epicenter of one of these forms of zombie mentality at the moment.

@IG_Urban: I believe your statement is uninformed bs. The fans are one of the big things that keep me sucked in. There are tons of talented people with lots of creativity who need an excuse to let it out and feel like it's okay. They want a chance to do whatever and not be looked down on or have to feel weird pressure from outside sources. I'm not saying you have to have a pop star tell you it's okay to do something, but it doesn't hurt to have someone actual preaching something positive and encouraging self-esteem.

ITT IG Urban feels it's his job to hate something he has no interest in because it's popular and it's fun for him to feel like he's in the counterculture crowd.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

I'm the kind of guy who actually didn't mind hearing that Bad Romance one in the background for a while (If I didn't really pay attention to the words), then I saw the actual music video. Leather, Asian haircuts and synchornised bondage...stuff. This monster is as tasteless as Ke$ha and nearly as cheap.

Wrong video completely and try watching more than one before you compare her to Ke$ha.

Well, does it matter what video it was? It was definitely a Gaga video. Also I'll rephrase "This monster is as bad as Ke$ha for entirely different reasons". As far as I recall, Ke$ha is also popular, all my female cousins adore her. Doesn't mean she's any good.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

I'm the kind of guy who actually didn't mind hearing that Bad Romance one in the background for a while (If I didn't really pay attention to the words), then I saw the actual music video. Leather, Asian haircuts and synchornised bondage...stuff. This monster is as tasteless as Ke$ha and nearly as cheap.

Wrong video completely and try watching more than one before you compare her to Ke$ha.

Well, does it matter what video it was? It was definitely a Gaga video. Also I'll rephrase "This monster is as bad as Ke$ha for entirely different reasons". As far as I recall, Ke$ha is also popular, all my female cousins adore her. Doesn't mean she's any good.

And what music do you like?

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:@IG_Urban: I believe your statement is uninformed bs.

I believe it's an opinion, just as what you are saying is yours. Don't get defensive because you idolize her.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

I'm the kind of guy who actually didn't mind hearing that Bad Romance one in the background for a while (If I didn't really pay attention to the words), then I saw the actual music video. Leather, Asian haircuts and synchornised bondage...stuff. This monster is as tasteless as Ke$ha and nearly as cheap.

Wrong video completely and try watching more than one before you compare her to Ke$ha.

Well, does it matter what video it was? It was definitely a Gaga video. Also I'll rephrase "This monster is as bad as Ke$ha for entirely different reasons". As far as I recall, Ke$ha is also popular, all my female cousins adore her. Doesn't mean she's any good.

And what music do you like?

Er...um, uh. Heh.

Foo Fighters
Breaking Benjamin
Dido
Sixpence none the Richer
Christmas Carols
Vocals of any sort really
Adagio for Strings ect.
Moonlight Sonatra (and other Piano favourites)
...Nickelback

Okay Okay! I DO have a Lady Gaga song, I'm sorry!

ShumaGorath wrote:ITT IG Urban feels it's his job to hate something he has no interest in because it's popular and it's fun for him to feel like he's in the counterculture crowd.

that's just like, your opinion, man.

IG_urban wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:ITT IG Urban feels it's his job to hate something he has no interest in because it's popular and it's fun for him to feel like he's in the counterculture crowd.

that's just like, your opinion, man.

Yes.

IG_urban wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:ITT IG Urban feels it's his job to hate something he has no interest in because it's popular and it's fun for him to feel like he's in the counterculture crowd.

that's just like, your opinion, man.

Emperors Faithful finds this post amusing. And EF also begins to wonder if Shuma is a closet Gaga/Ke$ha fan.

IG_urban wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:ITT IG Urban feels it's his job to hate something he has no interest in because it's popular and it's fun for him to feel like he's in the counterculture crowd.

that's just like, your opinion, man.

But a well informed one, based upon your statements here. If you don't want people to call you a wannabe counter-culture poseur, don't act like one.

IG_urban wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:@IG_Urban: I believe your statement is uninformed bs.

I believe it's an opinion, just as what you are saying is yours. Don't get defensive because you idolize her.

Nice assumption. If I idolize anyone it's the fans. They're generally good people and don't deserve random uninformed crap said about them. I'll leave it at that.

Emperors Faithful wrote:
Emperors Faithful finds this post amusing. And EF also begins to wonder if Shuma is a closet Gaga/Ke$ha fan.

Nah, he just gets my back on random things like this We both get annoyed by nerd rage.

Emperors Faithful wrote:

IG_urban wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:ITT IG Urban feels it's his job to hate something he has no interest in because it's popular and it's fun for him to feel like he's in the counterculture crowd.

that's just like, your opinion, man.

Emperors Faithful finds this post amusing. And EF also begins to wonder if Shuma is a closet Gaga/Ke$ha fan.

Its not my kind of music. I listen to a variety, but very little empty pop beats. I hate counterculture whine threads. This threads just as bad as the 3d movie or new videogame threads that are up right now. If you don't like lady gaga, apple, and starbucks thats cool, but If your only reasons is because you don't like things that are popular then you're every bit as shallow as the things you profess to "hate". Don't try and dress up your opinions though. Thats mostly what this thread is. Hatred of the popular for the sake that it is popular.

IG_urban wrote:

AbaddonFidelis wrote:I guess a bunch of people have already said it but I'm going to say it again anyway.... who pays attention to lady gaga anyway?

obliviously you, and quite a few people with the same sentiments as you....as they are posting in this thread.

I guess my issue is the mindless fandom effect you get with ultrapop stars.... The same thing happens. You can go back 30 years and it's still there. My issue is with that die-hard, creepy, almost zombie like fandom of a group, or one group of people....that fades into nothingness, or gets transplanted, in a very short period of time. A large percent of this fanbase is just jumping on the bandwagon, which brings me to the even more disturbing underlying (IMHO) cause. Lack of one's own self. So much of the American (and international) culture is so lost, they just follow the heard for fear of being ostracized. It disturbs me. And it just so happens that Lady Gaga is at the epicenter of one of these forms of zombie mentality at the moment.

groan. I guess you love gaga too since you're posting on this thread too.
anyway yes you're very clever you've realized that pop-culture is vacuous nonsense. here have a cookie.
AF

ShumaGorath wrote:

IG_urban wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:ITT IG Urban feels it's his job to hate something he has no interest in because it's popular and it's fun for him to feel like he's in the counterculture crowd.

that's just like, your opinion, man.

Yes.

Yes.

Bookwrack wrote:

IG_urban wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:ITT IG Urban feels it's his job to hate something he has no interest in because it's popular and it's fun for him to feel like he's in the counterculture crowd.

that's just like, your opinion, man.

But a well informed one, based upon your statements here. If you don't want people to call you a wannabe counter-culture poseur, don't act like one.

I never expressed my opinion on the matter in any way. I don't quite understand how stating my opinion on something is being a poseur.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

IG_urban wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:@IG_Urban: I believe your statement is uninformed bs.

I believe it's an opinion, just as what you are saying is yours. Don't get defensive because you idolize her.

Nice assumption. If I idolize anyone it's the fans. They're generally good people and don't deserve random uninformed crap said about them. I'll leave it at that.

ok.