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WarOne wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
@Manchu: I hear ya, but Mr. Rogers didn't just accept an award on international national television in a meat dress.

But he kept on wearing a sweater decades after it left the fashion world, never to come back again like things always do.

Actually that style of sweater came back into fashion with Grunge...


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Albatross wrote:
I happen to think she couches her 'shock' in pseudo-intellectual psychobabble to disguise what is, basically, a shallow (but ultimately succesful) attempt to make a splash.

I think you just described much of what gets posted here in this forum...

CT GAMER wrote:

WarOne wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
@Manchu: I hear ya, but Mr. Rogers didn't just accept an award on international national television in a meat dress.

But he kept on wearing a sweater decades after it left the fashion world, never to come back again like things always do.

Actually that style of sweater came back into fashion with Grunge...

Wait are you talking about Mr. Rogers or Killkrazy?

Albatross wrote:Do you deny that she has a massive corporate juggernaut bankrolling her? And that she was a record industry hack before she was a pop-star? She wasn't exactly plucked from obscurity, was she?

This is all I can think about when I see GaGa. It reminds me of looking at a Coke label.
GaGa is a brand and a successful one. I wonder how long her career will last.

Does she actually design all of her own stuff? Does anyone know? I admit that I know very little about this lady.

At the very least she bitches severely if it doesn't meet her standards, at the very best she has a majority chunk in everything she does. There are reports of her refusing to work with someone on the basis that she doesn't like how she thinks something will turn out or arguing with the record label people about overspending on her tour (she redesigned the show completely 2 times on the same tour in the middle of it). She also tends to do a lot of different things with the people that she does actually work with, in excessive amounts. Beyond that her main creative group, the Haus, is made up of people she picked to work with. So in my mind there's evidence that she's responsible for herself and her image, but I'm also the biased one

Wrexasaur wrote:This is all I can think about when I see GaGa. It reminds me of looking at a Coke label.
GaGa is a brand and a successful one. I wonder how long her career will last.

Does she actually design all of her own stuff? Does anyone know? I admit that I know very little about this lady.

Yes, Gaga is a brand, albeit one she puts a pretty tight control over (and why would the studio feth with what she's doing, she's selling loads of records for them). Thing is, that's pop music these days, brand management is huge, people have to be seen with the right people in the right clothes all the time. And it likely includes lots of bands you like to think of as authentic.

So screw it, if it's all going to be closely controlled and managed, why not embrace that and wear a meat dress?

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Beyond that her main creative group, the Haus, is made up of people she picked to work with. So in my mind there's evidence that she's responsible for herself and her image, but I'm also the biased one

She is her image, I get that. It isn't unlikely that she has a very solid stake in her creativity but expecting as much as I have heard, from one person, as suggested by conversations I have had with several people, seems odd to me. That is one person, achievements such as the GaGa brand don't come from one person, they don't even come from 100 people. Call that what you will but I say it in recognition that Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta (born March 28, 1986), has been a part of a very successful enterprise. Not the most successful, blablabla.

I would really be interested in finding out what is actually involved in maintaining that brand, how many people make that snap happen. I don't hate Coke btw, I just prefer not to drink soda in general. Water is a blessing, blablabla.

She has worn a meat dress, I have to have a bit of respect for that alone. Is GaGa a she? Funny, like a joke staring at itself. It isn't a she, it is a brand.

Wrexasaur wrote:She has worn a meat dress, I have to have a bit of respect for that alone. Is GaGa a she? Funny, like a joke staring at itself. It isn't a she, it is a brand.

And the thing is, we're going to have a bunch of brands like this with us at any given time, so isn't it better we get people wearing meat dresses than Madonna or Aguilera style 'here's some pre-packaged outrage for you so get shocked and titilated then buy my record' or Britney style 'I'm just a precious, wholesome girl now watch me grind on this dancer then buy my record'?

I prefer, "I have a telephone on my head so buy my record".

Wrexasaur wrote:I prefer, "I have a telephone on my head so buy my record".

I'm interested, but what's his music like? I'm really only into euro acid funk, that keeps it authentic, but you know, still maintains pop sensibilities.

Oh noz, copiez!!!11

Her eyes remind me of a goat.

her music on the other hand, reminds me of the 6th circle of Hell.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

I'm sorry, but that hat needs to be removed. With a lead pipe.

How do you think they got it to stay on in the first place?

Here I was under the impression that these bizarre things simply grew out from beneath her hairnet and had to be surgically removed afterwards. If people are putting them there on purpose I'm going to have to seriously re-evaluate my impression of her supposed 'talent'.

Frazzled wrote:Her eyes remind me of a goat.

her music on the other hand, reminds me of the 6th circle of Hell.

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I think she is slowly evolving (devolving?) into Shelley Duvall.