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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 17:43:54
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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This week’s Newsletter brings you a fresh wave of Space Marine kits to pre-order, along with two more A4 Transfer Sheets packed with vehicle and infantry decals and a reminder of our Christmas shipping deadlines and opening times.
Thanks, Ead Brown
Land Raider Achilles Available to Pre-Order Now
Land Raider Achilles
The first of our new wave of Space Marine releases is the devastatingly powerful Land Raider Achilles. This resin and plastic hybrid kit, designed by Stuart Williamson, boasts sponson-mounted twin Multi-Meltas and a hull-mounted Thunderfire Cannon. A line-breaker beyond compare, the Land Raider Achilles’ firepower is capable of forcing a breach in even the strongest defences at the tip of an armoured assault.
Originating in the closing years of the Great Crusade, the Achilles is perhaps the rarest and most venerable Land Raider variant still used on the battlefields of the 41st Millenium. It was originally created by the Imperial Fists Legion in response to a dire xenos threat now lost to the mists of history, and fittingly rare outside the noble Imperial Fists, their successors and the Ordo Reductor of the Adeptus Mechanus. The Achilles is perhaps most vaunted for its legendary durability - each stage of the hull’s construction incorporates layer upon layer of ancient electromagnetic algorithms and ferromantic incantations. This arcane lore is etched into the very structure of the Land Raider Achilles at a molecular level, and is one the most secret and ancient rites of the Cult Mechanicus.
The Land Raider Achilles is a complete resin and plastic kit, and is available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing December 6th, and is included in the Space Marine Siege Assault Vanguard army list in the forthcoming Imperial Armour Volume 10: The Badab War Part II. As an exclusive extra, we have prised the rules for the Achilles from Alan Bligh’s grasp and they are available to download for free here.
Forge World MkIV Ironclad Dreadnought and Arms Available to Pre-Order Now
Mk IV Ironclad Dreadnought
The latest addition to our range of MkIV Dreadnoughts is the siege specialist MkIV Ironclad Dreadnought, MkIV Hurricane Bolter, MkIV Seismic Hammer and MkIV Chainfist. These full resin kits, designed by Phil Stutcinskas, afford Space Marine players the complete range of Codex options for the Ironclad Dreadnought. Heavily augmented and outfitted for siege assault and ship boarding actions, the Ironclad Dreadnought sacrifices versatility and long-range firepower for even greater armoured defence and dedicated siege weaponry such as the Seismic Hammer and Chainfist, designed to pulverise the toughest bastion or armoured bulkhead into twisted wreckage. The fearsome short-ranged firepower of a Hurricane Bolter is often used to augment the Ironclad’s firepower, allowing the ancient hero within the sarcophagus to saturate breached defences with a deadly storm of bolter shells. The MkIV Ironclad Dreadnought is a full resin kit that comes complete with Hunter Killer Missiles and Frag Assault Launchers, furthering the Ironclad’s potent weaponry, as well as additional armour plates to fit the resin MkIV Hurricane Bolter, MkIV Seismic Hammer and MkIV Chainfist and our other MkIV Dreadnought arms. Each of these detailed kits is available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing December 6th.
New Space Marine Transfer Sheets Available to Pre-Order Now
Forge World’s Paul Rudge has been hard at work of late, busily working away on two additions to our range of transfer sheets – an A4 Dark Angels transfer sheet and an A4 Space Marine Markings decal sheet.
Each sheet is crammed with a huge array of squad badges suitable for shoulder pads, jump packs and vehicles. There are also unit designations and unique details such as Dark Angel maxims and names, along with standard and variant vehicle designations for all types of Space Marine squad insignia.
Each of the new transfer sheets is also available to pre-order now for despatch in the week commencing December 6th.
Forge World Winter Catalogue Supplement Sheet Now Available
You can now download a free PDF of our most recent supplement sheet from the Forge World website. It includes the Eldar Hornet, which is available to pre-order now for despatch from the 29th of November, along with all of our most recent releases such as the Necron Tomb Stalker and Space Marine Armour Sets.
If you’d like to receive a free copy of our 2010 catalogue to assist you when compiling your Christmas shopping list, e-mail forgeworldcatreq@games-workshop.co.uk making sure you include your full name and postal address.
Forge World Christmas Shipping
With November upon us, we have news of our final shipping deadlines for Christmas. These dates are subject to change, and we will keep you informed of any changes both in future newsletters and at www.forgeworld.co. uk.
As always, it’s best to order as early as possible to ensure that you’ll get exactly what you want and if you have any questions please don’t hesitate to contact us using the details below.
Our last guaranteed shipping date for Standard Delivery outside the UK will be December 6th.
Our last guaranteed shipping date for Express Delivery outside the UK will be December 15th.
For our customers inside the UK, the last guaranteed shipping date for Standard Delivery will be December 15th and the last guaranteed shipping date for Express Delivery will be December 20th.
If you have any questions or concerns about any aspect of your Forge World Christmas Shopping then please contact us either by e-mail at forgeworldorderenquiries@games-workshop.co.uk or by telephone on 0115 916 8177 within the UK, 011 44 115 916 8177 from the US and Canada or 00 44 115 916 8177 from much of Europe. Forge World’s Customer Service team is available 6 days a week all the way up to Christmas, so don’t hesitate to contact us to check stock availability and shipping times. We are also a font of knowledge and advice if you aren’t sure about what would make the perfect Forge World gift.
Forge World Wishlists Now Available Online
On the subject of Christmas shopping, there’s nothing worse than secretly hoping for a Reaver Titan, finding a massive parcel under your tree, eagerly ripping it open and finding a lovely ‘novelty’ jumper and a pair of socks…
It doesn't get much worse than that, but thankfully it couldn't be easier to make sure that it doesn't happen to you. If you’ve created an account on www.forgeworld.co. uk then you have the ability to create a Wishlist. Just login to Your Account and you’ll see an option to View Wishlists – simply browse through our online store and click the ‘add to wishlist’ button on each item’s page. Once you’ve found all the gifts you’re after, just e-mail it to all of your friends and family and wait for Christmas morning.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 17:48:52
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Infiltrating Oniwaban
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I like that FW ironclad a lot more than the plastic kit. I love the underslung melta for the mkIV bodystyle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 17:49:43
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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[ARTICLE MOD]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:02:44
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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I like the current Ironclad better then the FW one.
So far as the LR Achilles goes, how many points is this thing? Does it appear in IA9? I don't see any posted rules for it. I have to imagine it needs to be at least 400 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:07:29
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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There was a link in the email, Ouze, that appears to have been missed - try http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/a/achilles.pdf - I find it interesting that the only SM variant not allowed it are the Blood Angels.....
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:10:46
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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How useful do you guys find it based on the rules, I assume it is actually pretty good if Ouze estimated 400 and it's 300...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:17:20
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Arschbombe wrote:I like that FW ironclad a lot more than the plastic kit. I love the underslung melta for the mkIV bodystyle.
Where's it at?
I see the flamer, but not the melta...
EDIT: Never mind - I see it in the parts listed on the site!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:20:53
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bracknell, Berkshire, England
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Forge World: "Problem, Blood Angels?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:21:00
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Probably because it is produced exclusively by the Adeptus Mechanicus and the BA kinda pissed them off. No special treatment from the AM for you!
Also: Ferromantic Invulnerability is disgusting. Immune to Melta/Lance and -1 to damage chart? Yes, please!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:22:48
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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pretre wrote:
Probably because it is produced exclusively by the Adeptus Mechanicus and the BA kinda pissed them off. No special treatment from the AM for you!
Technically, they are getting special treatment - just not the kind people like
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:23:43
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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pretre wrote:
Ferromantic Invulnerability is disgusting. Immune to Melta/Lance and -1 to damage chart? Yes, please!
Indeed - AV14 and immune to melta? Ouch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:24:03
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Both look fine, but maybe the Achilles is what I will add to the Black Templars.
Ferromantic Invulnerability is worth the points. Immune to Melta/Lance and -1 to damage chart? Yes, please!
More LR in black
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Target locked,ready to fire
In dedicatio imperatum ultra articulo mortis.
H.B.M.C :
We were wrong. It's not the 40k End Times. It's the Trademarkening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:31:57
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Repentia Mistress
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Thats a very buff tank. You can even take a siege shield on it. The tank really doesn't have much in the way of weaknesses. Its a battle tank however and not much of a transport
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:36:17
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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The New Miss Macross!
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Ouze wrote:Land Raider Achilles Available to Pre-Order Now
anyone else think that design is similar in style to the dornian heresy ultramarine power armor? the front armor has less detail than i'm used to from FW stuff but i can see how they were going for clean/smooth as opposed to the normal grimdark wax seal and ribbon bling + rivets.
either way, pretty damn cool looking. the abilities are quite nice for 300pts; to be honest, to fit the thunderfire cannon and multimeltas, i rather expected it to have *no* transport capacity but its still got 6 surprisingly. luckily for me, i play my mega marine force as two armies... a normal BA one and a deathwing variant using the space hulk models. at least one of my forces can still use it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:52:22
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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That 'style' of armor has been around on Techmarines and Ironclads, prior to the MKXVI armor design, hasn't it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:55:42
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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I just looked at those rules. Unbelievable. Only forge world could take a 250 point vehicle, add in a 100pt artillery vehicle, a pair of 15 point multi meltas, and make them twin-linked, 15 points for extra armor (so, a 250 point tank with 150 points of wargear), give it immunity to meltas (!!), and reduce all other damage by 1, and call it 300 points. That's just, for lack of a better word, [MOD EDIT - Family Friendly, yes?] Why don't you just give it a Deathstrike missile for 20 points, too?
I thought the Necron Tomb Stalker was kind of overpowered - now I'll have no problem convincing my friends it isn't, just show them this.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 18:57:16
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. FW stuff is underpowered.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:03:15
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Yep, underpowered.
Subtract TL lascannons, TL HB, transport capacity, assault ramp, option to add another multimelta.
-60, -20, - 60, -50, -10. => 150 - 200 = 50. 250 + 50 = 300. Simple.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:05:32
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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Forgeworld stuff is inconsistent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:06:54
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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Nice looking model, but way undercosted. That is going to be crazy hard to kill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:07:36
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Mk XVI power armour?
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There is no Zuul, there is only war!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:10:06
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Ouze wrote:I just looked at those rules. Unbelievable. Only forge world could take a 250 point vehicle, add in a 100pt artillery vehicle, a pair of 15 point multi meltas, and make them twin-linked, 15 points for extra armor (so, a 250 point tank with 150 points of wargear), give it immunity to meltas (!!), and reduce all other damage by 1, and call it 300 points. That's just, for lack of a better word, dick. Why don't you just give it a Deathstrike missile for 20 points, too?
I thought the Necron Tomb Stalker was kind of overpowered - now I'll have no problem convincing my friends it isn't, just show them this.
That isn't exactly reasonable.
They took a 250 point vehicle, replaced its 35 point weapons ( TL LC) with 25 point weapons ( TL MM), replaced its 20 point weapon ( TL HB) with a 100 point weapon ( TFC), took out the special rules and free Techmarine you get with a TFC, reduced the transport capacity in half, removed Assault Vehicle rules (the main reason an SM Army takes Land Raiders mostly), gave it EA and its special armour rules and bumped the point cost up 50...
Do I think its balanced? Not really. Do I think its more balanced then your claim of a 250 tank with 150 points of wargear and immunity to meltas for 300 points? Yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:15:00
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Zuul wrote:Mk XVI power armour?
Completely awesome and... unofficial! See the B&C!
Now, THIS is an Iron Clad I like the look of, and will probably end up purchasing!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:18:15
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Thunderfire Cannons are 25 points. That 100 points pays for a 75 point Techmarine in addition to the gun.
This Land Raider is overpriced. Even if it had a lower price, it still wouldn't be useful. 6 transport capacity and no Assault Vehicle makes it have no real purpose. (those crummy guns aren't a purpose at 300 points).
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:23:47
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Magister187 wrote:That isn't exactly reasonable.
They took a 250 point vehicle, replaced its 35 point weapons (TL LC) with 25 point weapons (TL MM), replaced its 20 point weapon (TL HB) with a 100 point weapon (TFC), took out the special rules and free Techmarine you get with a TFC, reduced the transport capacity in half, removed Assault Vehicle rules (the main reason an SM Army takes Land Raiders mostly), gave it EA and its special armour rules and bumped the point cost up 50...
Do I think its balanced? Not really. Do I think its more balanced then your claim of a 250 tank with 150 points of wargear and immunity to meltas for 300 points? Yes.
I hadn't noticed they removed assault vehicle. The fact it can technically no longer transport terminators seems to be a reasonable compromise as well (unless you can somehow legally form a squad of 3 terminators). I still think it's undercosted. The twin-linked multimeltas and immunity to melta and lance weapons alone is kind of ridiculous even if they removed the TFC.
There are no special rules that apply to a TFC (and not to the attached Techmarine) that were removed, other then the fact it can't take a drop pod. Which probably gives them ideas for the next Land Raider variant: the Land Raider Zeus. 15 AV all around, immune to weapons, Can deep strike, counts as troops for capturing objectives, sponson mounted railguns, main weapon shoots Terminators which count as assault and get +3 attacks, 220 points.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:37:22
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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Sorry, I meant that as one complete component "The special rules and free Techmarine" as in, the rules he brings and the techmarine left after the cannon is blown up. It's not a whole lot, but Bolster Defenses is worth a few points, imo. and possibly having a source of Vehicle Repair if your opponent decides to kill the cannon first, well... I am just listing the realities of the vehicle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:38:34
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Ouze wrote:I hadn't noticed they removed assault vehicle. The fact it can technically no longer transport terminators seems to be a reasonable compromise as well (unless you can somehow legally form a squad of 3 terminators).
Theoretically you could do it with Space Wolves, but there's no real point to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:40:22
Subject: Forge World Newsletter #255
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Alpharius wrote:That 'style' of armor has been around on Techmarines and Ironclads, prior to the MKXVI armor design, hasn't it?
Probably. In this case, I'd guess it's more to reinforce the fact that this is a "rare and venerable" Land Raider variant that likely is something they dig out of storage only when things are really bad.
I'm thinking some nasty thoughts with a Devastator Squad equipped with Heavy Bolters/Plasma Cannons and an Achilles firing Subterranean blasts against some assaulty/horde armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:44:27
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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The New Miss Macross!
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Zuul wrote:Mk XVI power armour?
yeah, its a nicely illustrated unofficial "what if??" fan fiction campaign. basically, "what if?" horus had stayed loyal on davin and rogal dorn had fallen to chaos instead, bringing with him the traditional loyal legions (who also got a complete fluff make over to allow them to fall to chaos). it's a pretty good read and completely free to download on the bolter and chainsword forum.
Alpharius wrote:Now, THIS is an Iron Clad I like the look of, and will probably end up purchasing!

what does he have mounted on the top? are those the HK missles? i thought the dread could only get two (hence the two they supply with the normal ironclad kit).
edit: hmmm. i see the traditional HK missles inbetween the two smaller double pods. is that a new FW ironclad variant?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/19 19:45:47
Subject: Re:Forge World Newsletter #255
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Alpharius wrote:
Now, THIS is an Iron Clad I like the look of, and will probably end up purchasing!
One problem. That heavy flamer only comes with the chaos dreadnought chainfist for the left arm and mounts on the left side of the torso. The melta comes with either of the left arms for the ironclad, but is also for the left side of the torso.
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the next Land Raider variant: the Land Raider Zeus. 15 AV all around, immune to weapons, Can deep strike, counts as troops for capturing objectives, sponson mounted railguns, main weapon shoots Terminators which count as assault and get +3 attacks, 220 points.
That sounds awesome! Can Blood Angels take that one?
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