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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 15:48:44
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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First off first thread on Dakka so if its not the sort of thread that should be in this section or even on these forums please just let me know. On to my point, please someone explain to me why GW employed a man who by his own admission does not like Space Wolves to write the Space Wolves perspective of the Battle of Prospero? No Space Wolves for 149 pages of the book is a travesty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 15:57:37
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Stormin' Stompa
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I don't see your point. You might want clarify a little more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 15:57:48
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Fixture of Dakka
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probably because no-one wanted to do it and he was cheap.
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 15:59:56
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
Ripley, Derbyshire
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Mr Nobody wrote:I don't see your point. You might want clarify a little more. In Prospero Burns it takes an amazing amount of time (149 pages) before we actually see a space wolf, Dan Abnett has said before that he doesn't like Space Wolves, this to me doesn't seem to be a coincidence. So why ask a writer who doesn't like the subject to write a book?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 16:06:40
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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because he's a good writer, simple enough ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 16:29:31
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Fixture of Dakka
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Because his name is Dan Abnett. Which will sell books.
Half of the Black Library authors are terrible. I mean, turbolasers. And space marines wielding multilasers. And Eldar surfing into battle on rhinos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 16:40:37
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Dashofpepper wrote:And Eldar surfing into battle on rhinos.
?!?!?!????
i've only really heard of:
C. SMultilaser (This pleases him). Gotmultilaser
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 00:12:04
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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What book is this where a SPESS MAHREEN wields a multilaser?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 00:16:59
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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coolyo294 wrote:What book is this where a SPESS MAHREEN wields a multilaser?
This old wikipedia article should help
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cassern_S._Goto&oldid=356156440
and the current one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassern_S._Goto (non vandalized)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 00:21:04
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Ah, I miss the vandalized version. So awesome.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah.  One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.
Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.
warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.
Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.
Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.
ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 00:22:22
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Dakka Veteran
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One of the comments is "what is all this multilaser stuff?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 00:25:21
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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I personally find the Rhino that turns into a Land Raider that turns into a Razorback the best.
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"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
707th Lubyan Aquila Banner Motor Rifle Regiment (6000 pts)
Battlefleet Tomania (2500 pts)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 09:51:25
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Fixture of Dakka
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I just give a little chuckle when I noticed little errors:
Rynn's world:
page 273, line 15 "cycled down the barrels of his assault cannon"
page 272, line 15 "barrels of his assault cannon"
page 271, line 10 & 11 "cycling his assault cannon"
page 260, line 14 & 15 "cycled the clustered barrels of his auto-cannon"
wait, what?
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 11:53:34
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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There's something i don't get with mr multilaser, his writing is substandard to begin with... but he can never, ever create an appealing character, that you actually care about / emphasise with. Abnett seems to do this in his sleep.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 11:57:41
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Fixture of Dakka
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yep. Even I can do that in my army fluff. I bet, if you wandered around britain asking everyone to write a 40k novel, give them the info, and leave them for a year, 90% of them can do better than C.S.hit.
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 12:30:37
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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OH trust me, creating appealing characters and developing them is hard work. Very, very, hard work. SOmetimes it's completely hit or miss...the same character you fall in love with will be despised by your readers and vice versa. So yeah...I won't rip into him for bad characters, nor will I say he's so bad that all the world can write better than him. What makes him bad for me is his inability to remem his own details, as wel as a flagrant disregard for the background.
It's just that Black Library forgot Sturgeon's law, and instead of sticking to the top 10% started digging a little deeper, and started digging into the crap.
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"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
707th Lubyan Aquila Banner Motor Rifle Regiment (6000 pts)
Battlefleet Tomania (2500 pts)
Visit my nation on Nation States!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 12:33:23
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Fixture of Dakka
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ChrisWWII wrote:OH trust me, creating appealing characters and developing them is hard work. Very, very, hard work. SOmetimes it's completely hit or miss...the same character you fall in love with will be despised by your readers and vice versa. So yeah...I won't rip into him for bad characters, nor will I say he's so bad that all the world can write better than him. What makes him bad for me is his inability to remem his own details, as wel as a flagrant disregard for the background.
It's just that Black Library forgot Sturgeon's law, and instead of sticking to the top 10% started digging a little deeper, and started digging into the crap.
not all the world- 90% of it.
He is still the worst writer I have seen.
C.S.hit IMO.
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:09:52
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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C.S.hit has written [one] good short story. One. It's in the "Let the Galaxy Burn" collection, I forget the name, but it's about the administratum menial, and the Vindicare assasin.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah.  One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.
Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.
warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.
Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.
Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.
ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.
Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:19:01
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Fixture of Dakka
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hey, it's catching on! EVERYONE! C.S.HIT!
Now fly, my internerds, go and spread something stupid that will end up how it always does- facebook-ese teen crap! fly!
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:25:22
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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shrike wrote:hey, it's catching on! EVERYONE! C.S.HIT!
Now fly, my internerds, go and spread something stupid that will end up how it always does- facebook-ese teen crap! fly!
95% of teens say c.s.goto if your one of the.... (seriously those sigs/comments annoy the hell outta me)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:26:59
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Fixture of Dakka
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Me too. I like a sig of my own creating- fat bunny. he's trying to stop bunny from dominating the world by being sigged instead.
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:30:44
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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shrike wrote:Me too. I like a sig of my own creating- fat bunny. he's trying to stop bunny from dominating the world by being sigged instead. 
That bunny could also be a Mogwai... i hope he isnt eating after midnight
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:31:50
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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C.S Goto?
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Thought I'd share his aproved portrait.
It pleases him.
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"Praise Be To The Omissiah!"
"Three things make the Empire great: Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!"
Azarath Metrion Zinthos
Expect my posts to have a bazillion edits. I miss out letters, words, sometimes even entire sentences in my points and posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:40:56
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Charging Dragon Prince
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Leave the guy alone. At least he writes. I don't care if he doesn't obey all the canon of background like a good little thrall. I think he tries to add some imagination to a very generic backdrop and yeah, that may annoy some purists who worry about whether or not its a multilaser or a gattling laser or a lasblaster or etc etc. Its fantasy fiction in space for gods sake, it doesn't have to make sense. It's not like he is defying the laws of physics in true hardcore Science Fiction type genre, he's just telling a story. In my mind, orcs had black skin and red eyes, as Tolkein described them, until GW came along and insisted they were green and everything about them was green. Now they are Greenskins. Let the imaginations do what they want rather than trying to apply the anal rules of a fictional reality to each and every author who tries his hand creating something within such a limited and restrained pre-existing universe.
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Retroactively applied infallability is its own reward. I wish I knew this years ago.
 I am Red/White Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I'm both chaotic and orderly. I value my own principles, and am willing to go to extreme lengths to enforce them, often trampling on the very same principles in the process. At best, I'm heroic and principled; at worst, I'm hypocritical and disorderly. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:41:09
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Fixture of Dakka
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Gibbsey wrote:shrike wrote:Me too. I like a sig of my own creating- fat bunny. he's trying to stop bunny from dominating the world by being sigged instead. 
That bunny could also be a Mogwai... i hope he isnt eating after midnight
"he isn't a mogwai, look- *pours water and crisps over it*- see? It's just an innocent littl-aaaaaargh!"
>comms end<
VikingScott wrote:C.S Goto?
Thought I'd share his aproved portrait.
It pleases him.
Nice. It pleases no-one. dead pic. 
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:52:48
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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shrike wrote:
Nice. It pleases no-one. dead pic.  
Check it again.
I don't think it was worthy of a facepalm.
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"Praise Be To The Omissiah!"
"Three things make the Empire great: Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!"
Azarath Metrion Zinthos
Expect my posts to have a bazillion edits. I miss out letters, words, sometimes even entire sentences in my points and posts.
Come at me Heretic. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:57:49
Subject: Re:Why oh why oh why
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Fixture of Dakka
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you edited it after I posted, as my quote proves. it was worthy of a facepalm.
and what is with "this pleases me"?
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:58:56
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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You're now worthy of my huge ignore list.
Good bye.
Go complain about someone else who is not as technologically adept as you think you are.
Vikings don't do technology duh. Thus mistake with my image tags.
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"Praise Be To The Omissiah!"
"Three things make the Empire great: Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!"
Azarath Metrion Zinthos
Expect my posts to have a bazillion edits. I miss out letters, words, sometimes even entire sentences in my points and posts.
Come at me Heretic. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 16:00:04
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Member of the Malleus
A fuedal world on the fringes of Segmentum Tempestus
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Never heard of this nonsense about Rino surfing Eldar, but a Multilaser wielding SM seems quite plausable.
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A spiritu dominatus,
Domine, libra nos,
From the lighting and the tempest,
Our Emperor, deliver us.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 16:00:16
Subject: Why oh why oh why
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Guitardian wrote:Leave the guy alone. At least he writes. I don't care if he doesn't obey all the canon of background like a good little thrall. I think he tries to add some imagination to a very generic backdrop and yeah, that may annoy some purists who worry about whether or not its a multilaser or a gattling laser or a lasblaster or etc etc. Its fantasy fiction in space for gods sake, it doesn't have to make sense. It's not like he is defying the laws of physics in true hardcore Science Fiction type genre, he's just telling a story. In my mind, orcs had black skin and red eyes, as Tolkein described them, until GW came along and insisted they were green and everything about them was green. Now they are Greenskins. Let the imaginations do what they want rather than trying to apply the anal rules of a fictional reality to each and every author who tries his hand creating something within such a limited and restrained pre-existing universe.
If your consistant fine, but he isnt. You have assault cannons turning into autocannons and rhinos turning into land raiders turning into razorbacks. (also wasnt he the author to have them riding ONTOP of the transports?  )
If your not following the fluff fair enough artistic license and all, but it does need to be consistend and it does need to make sense Automatically Appended Next Post: shrike wrote:and what is with "this pleases me"?
It's "this pleases him" and it was all over his blog apparently, as in c.s. goto lives in california this pleases him.
And yeah rhino surfing Eldar??!??!? where did that come from
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