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I am an ig player. My friend has a chaos space marine army with a land raider. Any hints on how to destroy the land raider?

squads of vets with 3 meltaguns in some sort of transport be it chimera or valk/vendetta.

Meltas, Vendettas, Manticores. Preferrably Manticores, the LR is such a huge target that it's hard to miss...

So easy...

3x3 TLC vendettas ... sheer #'s , or as have been mentioned above, melta-vets DS-in/Outflanking...

Another option is some suicide melta stormtroopers. Rerolling DS makes them quite reliable

But yea IG have so many options to knock out AV14

Get yourself a medusa with bastion breacher shells, will crack that raider open like an egg.

While Medusae with Bastion Breacher Shells are great at killing Raiders, they are armored with chinese paper and whispered secrets, and die to literally *anything*. So make that first shot count.

My 2k all-comer list has 2 Manticores and 2 Vendettas, so LR's are no biggie.

Melta also works, but I wouldn't want to feed whatever is inside the Raider a squad of MeltaVets just for a potential KP.

Veteran squad with Harker, 3 meltas, and a Demo-Charge... The demolition charge is backup, since it's a Heavy weapon... Right?

If you get the LR in 1 turn... Good the Demo-charge can be used next turn against the ones inside it.

If you can't destroy it, you have 1 more chance (to only glance it though)

CLOG ITS TREADS WITH DEAD GUARDSMEN!

but really, lascannons w/ special orders, vendettas, manticores, or meltas.

Leman Russ with a multi-melta on the hull.

EDIT

Darn, meant stuff in the Hellhound family.

L_Dawg wrote:Leman Russ with a multi-melta on the hull.

Russes can't have hull mounted Multi-meltas... Correct me if I'm wrong.

I have three units with Melta in my list: a PCS and two units of Stormtroopers. If I can get first turn and alpha-strike them with Scouts or get a shot in first turn, I go for it. You have to get a Land Raider down in the first turn or it's prety much too late; it's done it's job. After that, don't throw any firepower at it that could be better used somewhere else.

Stranding an assault unit in the backfield is pricess. Wasting firepower on the transport after the unit is out is expensive.

sluggaslugga wrote:

L_Dawg wrote:Leman Russ with a multi-melta on the hull.

Russes can't have hull mounted Multi-meltas... Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're correct, unless there's a Forgeworld Variant I'm not aware of. There are Melta Sponsons though, but I'm pretty sure that's not what he was talking about.

I agree on the Manticore. I've taken out more land raiders than anything else with that piece of artillery.

sluggaslugga wrote:

L_Dawg wrote:Leman Russ with a multi-melta on the hull.

Russes can't have hull mounted Multi-meltas... Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're correct. This person has no idea what he's talking about. A BS3 multimelta on an expensive tank to kill a Land Raider is a terrible idea.

I would recommend the Manticore and Meltavets. Or a 4x CCS (Orders will kill the LR dead).

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Vanquisher cannons yet. 72" Strength 8 that functions like a melta. Sure, you're missing out on that AP1, but you'll have no problem getting past that AV14. Though, I suppose that BS3 might cause some problems as far as hitting the tank is concerned, but you could always bring Pask.

My friend always brings Pask in a Vanquisher. He tends to miss a surprising amount for BS4.

Other than that... medusa w/ bastion breacher shells work well although limited range, manticore rockets have ridiculous range and a chance for 3 blasts per turn. However if you are playing on a board with decent cover, a landraider has a very good chance of making it to your lines to disgorge its murderous contents.

Maybe next time I play him I should deepstrike my dreadknight right next to his manticores lining the back corner.

I've always had the WORST luck against land raiders. The only time I ever seemed to be able to take them down was with Al'Rahem showing up with 3 or 4 meltaguns directly into melta range and then using Bring it Down! on himself.

That and I once tagged one with a priest back in 4th ed.

If melta isn't your thing, try lascannons.

I remember playing a 4th ed. Guard army. I had just finished a Land Raider Crusader, painted to the very best of my ability. My pride and joy. The centerpiece of my army. I was confident it would mow down guardsmen.

Turn 1. Move forward, pop smoke.
Turn 2. Land Raider gets destroyed by 1 HW squad with lascannons. I was most vexed.

You could also try a platoon with 15 HW teams combined as 1 squad... Can you do that actually?

The likelihood of being destroyed by a single lascannon is quite low. If your enemy is counting on lascannons to slag your LR, you should count yourself lucky.

I pretty much use LRs in every game that I play, and while they get banged up in every game, they are almost never destroyed, especially not by lascannons.

The one time I've had a LR explode spectacularly, was a stormtrooper squad DSing right next to it with no scatter and unloading about 4 meltas into it. They were mulched by the terminators inside after that, but they still took out the LR. Hopefully my friend will try that again now that I have warp quake.

sluggaslugga wrote:

L_Dawg wrote:Leman Russ with a multi-melta on the hull.

Russes can't have hull mounted Multi-meltas... Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're kind of wrong. They come on sponsons for sure though!


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sluggaslugga wrote:Veteran squad with Harker, 3 meltas, and a Demo-Charge... The demolition charge is backup, since it's a Heavy weapon... Right?

sluggaslugga wrote:Veteran squad with Harker, 3 meltas, and a Demo-Charge... The demolition charge is backup, since it's a Heavy weapon... Right?

No Demo is Assault.

I run 2 Manticores and love to see my opponent plop down multiple Land Raiders.

Demo...

No mate, its assault!

Plenty of decent options above, hope you crack that heretic open next time you play!

daedalus-templarius wrote:The likelihood of being destroyed by a single lascannon is quite low. If your enemy is counting on lascannons to slag your LR, you should count yourself lucky.

I pretty much use LRs in every game that I play, and while they get banged up in every game, they are almost never destroyed, especially not by lascannons.

The one time I've had a LR explode spectacularly, was a stormtrooper squad DSing right next to it with no scatter and unloading about 4 meltas into it. They were mulched by the terminators inside after that, but they still took out the LR. Hopefully my friend will try that again now that I have warp quake.

4 meltas O.o!?
I don't think that's possible...

Let me edit my statement.

sluggaslugga wrote:You could also try a platoon with 15 HW teams combined as 1 squad... Can you do that actually?

No, you can't. The most you could combine is 5. Of course, then you're spending at least 385 points, for just 5 lasguns...

daedalus-templarius wrote:If your enemy is counting on lascannons to slag your LR, you should count yourself lucky.

Right, lascannons are good because they're a harassment weapon. You're not likely to lose a land raider, but you MIGHT. A single lascannon hit against an unsmoked raider only wrecks or immobilizes it about 1 in 9 times, but if there's a couple of them, it's a serious enough threat to possibly force a change in your opponent's plans. I mean, it's like driving a land raider through terrain. You'll PROBABLY be fine... probably...

daedalus-templarius wrote:The one time I've had a LR explode spectacularly, was a stormtrooper squad DSing right next to it with no scatter and unloading about 4 meltas into it.

That's interesting given that stormtroopers have only ever been able to carry two special weapons.

Ailaros wrote:

sluggaslugga wrote:You could also try a platoon with 15 HW teams combined as 1 squad... Can you do that actually?

No, you can't. The most you could combine is 5. Of course, then you're spending at least 385 points, for just 5 lasguns....

I thought that you could include 5 HW squads, which is a total of 15 HW teams...

The Forgefather wrote:I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Vanquisher cannons yet. 72" Strength 8 that functions like a melta. Sure, you're missing out on that AP1, but you'll have no problem getting past that AV14. Though, I suppose that BS3 might cause some problems as far as hitting the tank is concerned, but you could always bring Pask.

Would you pin your hopes on a single BS 3 melta? 1/2 chance of hit. 21/36 for a pen. 3/6 for a decent result (for the Vanquisher). That's around a 15% chance of taking it out. Not worth paying for a Vanquisher for that.

sluggaslugga wrote:

Ailaros wrote:

sluggaslugga wrote:You could also try a platoon with 15 HW teams combined as 1 squad... Can you do that actually?

No, you can't. The most you could combine is 5. Of course, then you're spending at least 385 points, for just 5 lasguns....

I thought that you could include 5 HW squads, which is a total of 15 HW teams...

You cannot combine HWSs. So it's either 15 HWTs in squads of 3 or 5 HWTs in Infantry Squads, combined.

sluggaslugga wrote:

Ailaros wrote:

sluggaslugga wrote:You could also try a platoon with 15 HW teams combined as 1 squad... Can you do that actually?

No, you can't. The most you could combine is 5. Of course, then you're spending at least 385 points, for just 5 lasguns....

I thought that you could include 5 HW squads, which is a total of 15 HW teams...

The only things you can combine are Platoon Infantry Squads. No heavy weapon squads, no special weapon squads, no command squads.