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Is thier any fluff on Tech Marines who have became drednoughts.

Just wondering as the seem to have specialty drednoughts like Librarian and chaplain dreds.

Seems kinda cool! The dred should have crap loads of weapons and strong armour! I woul love to see a model of a tech marine dred.

What for me though would be cooler would be an Obliterartor Dred.....I would j*zz

Sounds like a perfect conversion opportunity! I'd love to see this, and you could write fluff, make rules etc! Could be based on the ironclad kit? And it could have a resized, expanded techmarine servo-harness and cool rules for it and stuff! I think a model of this could really work, with the plated armour stuff that techmarines have (i know its artificier armour, but theirs are all special) DO IT NOW!! And post some pictures!

The Techmarine from courage and honour gets put into a dreadnaught IIRC
It was very modified apparently...

Tech Marines in the Iron Hands are definitely placed into Dreadnoughts.

Dreadnoughts are all well and good, but consider the role of the techmarine: Their primary role is not to kick backside... their mechanics basically. Now, imagine a dreadnought mechanic trying to work on an engine... would be hard to manage right?

As for techmarines even getting crippled and viable to be placed in a Dread they often are mostly bionic allready... Why would anyone sanction this?

Logic completely aside i love the idea. Mechandrites can probably do the work the marine could before and the model would be awesome. A spooky crew of techpriests to tend its needs along the way would add even more flavour.

And Ironclad Dread would make a good counts-as Techmarine Dread.

As tarnish said, with techmarines modifying their bodies to incorporate machine parts, a critically wounded Techmarine wouldn't need to be entombed in a dread.

However, it isn't much of a stretch of the imagination from a heavily modified power armored body to a dreadnought if the Techmarine was wounded beyond conventional repair.

tarnish wrote:Dreadnoughts are all well and good, but consider the role of the techmarine: Their primary role is not to kick backside... their mechanics basically. Now, imagine a dreadnought mechanic trying to work on an engine... would be hard to manage right?

As for techmarines even getting crippled and viable to be placed in a Dread they often are mostly bionic allready... Why would anyone sanction this?

Logic completely aside i love the idea. Mechandrites can probably do the work the marine could before and the model would be awesome. A spooky crew of techpriests to tend its needs along the way would add even more flavour.

People are put into dreads because of one of two reasons...
1)They are a massive hero and died doing something suitable heroic
2)They have been alive for so long that losing the knowledge would be a blow to the chapter as a whole. This reasons alone lets techmarines, librarians and normal marines become dreadnoughts if they have served long enough.

To address the issue of continuing the role of mechanic, the dreadnought could be equipped with precision tools and manipulators for small work. The plus side, the dreadnought could also house larger equipment the techmarine couldn't carry before.

I found this.

I'm in mid-conversion atm, its looking alright, just a quick one for the hell of it! Based on an ironclad with bits and pieces from most other dreadnought kits, and of course a healthy amount of green stuff!


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PS that picture is absolutely awesome!

Allright im convinced. Mabye the marines are suitable for an entire mechanicus-related army at some point. The dark angel plastics with long robes and such would be decent and possibly some "scout-servitor-conversions"

purplefood wrote:

tarnish wrote:Dreadnoughts are all well and good, but consider the role of the techmarine: Their primary role is not to kick backside... their mechanics basically. Now, imagine a dreadnought mechanic trying to work on an engine... would be hard to manage right?

As for techmarines even getting crippled and viable to be placed in a Dread they often are mostly bionic allready... Why would anyone sanction this?

Logic completely aside i love the idea. Mechandrites can probably do the work the marine could before and the model would be awesome. A spooky crew of techpriests to tend its needs along the way would add even more flavour.

People are put into dreads because of one of two reasons...
1)They are a massive hero and died doing something suitable heroic
2)They have been alive for so long that losing the knowledge would be a blow to the chapter as a whole. This reasons alone lets techmarines, librarians and normal marines become dreadnoughts if they have served long enough.

I have to ask, why would a tech marine be made into a dreadnought? Turning a marine into a dreadnought enhances their basic combat ability and in my mind, somewhat limits their utility. Something that isn't an issue with Librarians or other combat marines.

Seeing that Tech Marines tend to become bio-mechanical constructs anyway, one wonders whether such a transformation is necessary. The Mechanicus doesn't have a problem with Cyborgs in much the same way as most Space Marine Chapters.

A Dreadnought Techmarine seems over the top to me. Maybe they should just imbed them in a heavy lift crane or turn them into a 'living' garage.

I could see it. A normal techmarine can certainly repair little fiddly bits, but what if a land raider needs a complete engine rebuild? How do you get thing out?

Tech-Dread!!!!

Uhlan wrote:

purplefood wrote:

tarnish wrote:Dreadnoughts are all well and good, but consider the role of the techmarine: Their primary role is not to kick backside... their mechanics basically. Now, imagine a dreadnought mechanic trying to work on an engine... would be hard to manage right?

As for techmarines even getting crippled and viable to be placed in a Dread they often are mostly bionic allready... Why would anyone sanction this?

Logic completely aside i love the idea. Mechandrites can probably do the work the marine could before and the model would be awesome. A spooky crew of techpriests to tend its needs along the way would add even more flavour.

People are put into dreads because of one of two reasons...
1)They are a massive hero and died doing something suitable heroic
2)They have been alive for so long that losing the knowledge would be a blow to the chapter as a whole. This reasons alone lets techmarines, librarians and normal marines become dreadnoughts if they have served long enough.

I have to ask, why would a tech marine be made into a dreadnought? Turning a marine into a dreadnought enhances their basic combat ability and in my mind, somewhat limits their utility. Something that isn't an issue with Librarians or other combat marines.

Seeing that Tech Marines tend to become bio-mechanical constructs anyway, one wonders whether such a transformation is necessary. The Mechanicus doesn't have a problem with Cyborgs in much the same way as most Space Marine Chapters.

A Dreadnought Techmarine seems over the top to me. Maybe they should just imbed them in a heavy lift crane or turn them into a 'living' garage.

You would turn a techmarines into a dreadnought to save what knowledge and expertise he has.
That is the other reason to put someone into a dreadnought as well as the whole hero thing.

@Purplefood

Yeah, I get the whole hero knowledge thing, but aren't the 'sarcophogai' aka dreadnoughts designed to preserve Marines without turning them into cyborgs? With the exception of a very few Chapters most marines abhore losing their 'humanity', don't they?

A Tech Marine and the Mechanicus in general seem to have no problem with extreme augmentation and I wonder where they draw the line between what's a machine and what isn't. To preserve the knowledge or to honor a Tech Marine wouldn't they just replace this or that part without much care as to the preservation of the biology?

Then again, maybe the brain is the key here... and the mechanical components of the tech Marine are just tossed out when put into a Tech-Dread.

Maybe this would in fact be the ultimate honor for a Tech Marine... to become a complete machine.

Something still bothers me about the whole thing though... fluff-wise.

Maybe this would in fact be the ultimate honor for a Tech Marine... to become a complete machine.

Isn't this the goal/wish of any of the Adeptus Mechanicus? Fluff wise, I think its an amazing idea with a ton of potential, both story wise and modeling wise! The idea of enormous servo arms and other super heavy equipment makes me foam at the mouth.

I know someone can use those clamps on a dread.

A dreadnought is basically an armored life-support/sarcophagus on legs and heavy weapons. I don't believe any SM actually goes into one willingly... at least, not while his meat-body is still viable or, at least, salvageable.

Could a Tech-Marine be injured to the point where the only chance for his survival is to be interred in a dreadnought? Sure, quite easily, either on the battlefield or in some tech-related accident or incident (exploding Land-speeder, reactor leak on the Battle-Barge, malignant tech-spirit...).

I don't see why the Chapter wouldn't put a valuable TM into a dread, if given the need and opportunity.

That work arm, mounted on an IronClad dread. Maybe a trimmed down Defiler arm coming out of the back = awesomesauce.

I'd imagine if the dreadnought had a T.M. in it, it would probably have smaller, more versatile arms as a secondary set on the mid area of the dread.

Prawnkus wrote:I'd imagine if the dreadnought had a T.M. in it, it would probably have smaller, more versatile arms as a secondary set on the mid area of the dread.

It could simply have a tech harness on it...
He doesn't need smaller arms, he could just have more but similar to his harness in life.
So he has his 2 big arms then his harness with half a dozen small ones...

I see it as a Dread shell laying around, and the Tech Marine goes and straps him self onto it, skipping the whole, dying first step..

Klogger wrote:I see it as a Dread shell laying around, and the Tech Marine goes and straps him self onto it, skipping the whole, dying first step..

He could but he wouldn't...
They don't have enough to simply waste like that....
If he was about to die then he would be given the dreadnought.

purplefood wrote:

Prawnkus wrote:I'd imagine if the dreadnought had a T.M. in it, it would probably have smaller, more versatile arms as a secondary set on the mid area of the dread.

It could simply have a tech harness on it...
He doesn't need smaller arms, he could just have more but similar to his harness in life.
So he has his 2 big arms then his harness with half a dozen small ones...

I mean in addition to, for smaller, more delicate machinery. But I guess the mechadendrites could do that, I just thought 4 arms on a dread would be a pretty cool idea.

He could probably modify it...

no reason a TM Dred wouldn't make sense.


His job could be to fix bigger things and his armored bulk could carry even greater repair mechanisims.

I think we're all missing the big picture here, Tech Marine DreadKNIGHT....

I wouldn't see why not though would fine repair work could be difficult.

I'm planning one for my army, but more like this, almost like he doesn't need it, just wants it

I hate that model...(Dreadknight)
I hate everything about it.
At any rate tech marines aren't used in frontline duties in the GK so it's moot point.

FM Ninja 048 wrote:

ah, this is exactly what i had in mind, mabye with made from an Inquisitor Fyodor Karamazov model?

You could probably do it from the plastic dreadnoughts, only proble being modeling the throne and exposed workings