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2011/04/27 22:30:17
Subject: Did I miss something??
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When did the Imperial forces start using MONKEYS????
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440161a&prodId=prod1140066a
I am all for some new spice in the army lists.... but Grey Knights using Orangutans??
I admit i completely missed the re-issue of the Grey Knights codex, i literally just read about it the other day......
so Yes i am a little slow on the uptake.... but can someone explain THE MONKEY???
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2011/04/27 22:32:07
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Jokaero are an Imperial protectorate, who create things such as digital weapons for the Imperium.
Not sure how long this has been, but I reckon at least third edition.
edit: Ah, they have been in since RT. Neat.
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2011/04/27 22:38:06
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Rogue Trader days.
Besides, the surveys indicate that everything is better with monkeys.
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2011/04/27 22:40:31
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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I admit, I'm a little taken aback too, but the model is impressive.
I like it!
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2011/04/27 22:41:02
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Why have i never heard of them before?!?! I thought anything "not human" was to be eradicated?!
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2011/04/27 22:43:13
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Subhumans are often employed by the IoM. Ogryns, ratlings, and others are examples of this.
Although it may be more likely that they are used by Grey Knights in the same way that Inquisitors use "unconventional methods." They are above suspicion.
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2011/04/27 22:44:53
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Everytime I see the jokaeroo I think of the brak show, " Monkies! hahahaha, hahaha, ha..ohh monkies!"
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2011/04/27 23:17:40
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Really?
This has popped up a few times in the past month or so...
If you managed to miss the new codex coming out then fair enough (you're actually pretty lucky since you missed all the new codex complaining) but don't question the monkeys...
Bad things happen to people who question monkeys...
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2011/04/27 23:20:23
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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purplefood wrote:Really?
This has popped up a few times in the past month or so...
If you managed to miss the new codex coming out then fair enough (you're actually pretty lucky since you missed all the new codex complaining) but don't question the monkeys...
Bad things happen to people who question monkeys...
At-least we got the model, poor poor Dark Eldar courts. 
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2011/04/27 23:21:07
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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That's favoritism for you...
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2011/04/27 23:22:12
Subject: Did I miss something??
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hcordes wrote:Why have i never heard of them before?!?! I thought anything "not human" was to be eradicated?!
Unless they're useful, that is usually the case.
There have been exceptions.
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2011/04/27 23:35:40
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Well that model makes for an interesting piece of model work that is for sure..... and adds some food for thought in a Rouge Trader RPG
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2011/04/27 23:39:00
Subject: Did I miss something??
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hcordes wrote:When did the Imperial forces start using MONKEYS????
They're apes, not monkeys 
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2011/04/27 23:39:35
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Backfire wrote:hcordes wrote:When did the Imperial forces start using MONKEYS????
They're apes, not monkeys
HA!! Touche!! 
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2011/04/28 00:04:23
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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hcordes wrote:Backfire wrote:hcordes wrote:When did the Imperial forces start using MONKEYS????
They're apes, not monkeys
HA!! Touche!!
Yup, monkeys have tails and apes don't. Well, that and many other differences.
I think the Imperial stance on Jokaero is that they are more like animals than sapient beings, so they don't fall under the "burn them" catagory. They just happen to be animals who are instinctively good with technology.
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2011/04/28 00:52:47
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Jokero have been around since the Rogue Trader days at the very start, though I don't think they've been confirmed to be actively working with the Imperium until more recent.
In any regard them being a model in the Ordo Malleus army is pretty stupid and doesn't aesthetically fit. At the very least it should have been Ordo Xenos.
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2011/04/28 05:37:10
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Harriticus wrote:In any regard them being a model in the Ordo Malleus army is pretty stupid and doesn't aesthetically fit.
They're not in an Ordo Malleus army. They're in Codex: Grey Knights, but they're there as a part of the Inquisition as a whole... It's no longer a Malleus-only book. It's an Inquisition book that focusses on Grey Knights as the primary militant arm of the Inquisition.
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2011/04/28 06:03:22
Subject: Did I miss something??
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I still think its weird that I 've got the mighty Grey Knight Terminators ready to battle against the foulest forces of Chaos.... aaaaand...... they bring a Monkey (Ape)......???
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2011/04/28 06:15:46
Subject: Did I miss something??
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hcordes wrote:I still think its weird that I 've got the mighty Grey Knight Terminators ready to battle against the foulest forces of Chaos.... aaaaand...... they bring a Monkey (Ape)......???
So don't think of it like that, then.
Again, the monkey is nothing whatsoever to do with the Grey Knights. He is a part of the retinue of an Inquisitor. Inquisitors are not solely devoted to fighting against Chaos, and their retinues commonly include relative non-combatants who are useful in other ways.
The thing that appears to be hanging people up is simply the title of the codex. It's called 'Codex: Grey Knights'... but as I said a minute ago, it's not solely an Ordo Malleus codex. It's an Inquisition codex, with a primary focus on Grey Knights.
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2011/04/28 20:04:43
Subject: Did I miss something??
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hcordes wrote:When did the Imperial forces start using MONKEYS????
Since 1987.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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2011/04/28 20:08:59
Subject: Re:Did I miss something??
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There is so much that GW could have done with those resources...
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2011/04/28 20:12:53
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Ghost of Greed and Contempt
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Technically imperial scholars aren't sure if jokaero are even sentient, let alone intelligent, so it may be they just see it as like having a dog who happens to know a few good tricks - namely creating weaponry.
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2011/04/28 20:15:46
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Backfire wrote:hcordes wrote:When did the Imperial forces start using MONKEYS????
They're apes, not monkeys
They're actually neither, they're a alien species that just happens to resemble the Terran Orang Utan. 
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2011/04/28 20:22:45
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Dark Apostle 666 wrote:Technically imperial scholars aren't sure if jokaero are even sentient, let alone intelligent, so it may be they just see it as like having a dog who happens to know a few good tricks - namely creating weaponry.
Well they are sentient, most things are. Sentience is consciousness: the ability to understand signals, interpret them, learn them, and use them. Most things on earth are sentient. Sapience is the ability to think abstractly about the world, to search for meaning instead of purpose.
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2011/04/28 20:24:05
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Trickstick wrote:Dark Apostle 666 wrote:Technically imperial scholars aren't sure if jokaero are even sentient, let alone intelligent, so it may be they just see it as like having a dog who happens to know a few good tricks - namely creating weaponry.
Well they are sentient, most things are. Sentience is consciousness: the ability to understand signals, interpret them, learn them, and use them. Most things on earth are sentient. Sapience is the ability to think abstractly about the world, to search for meaning instead of purpose.
Yeah, i was gonna say, dogs are sentient and intelligent.
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2011/04/28 20:34:40
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Those monkeys cost £7.20 each.
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2011/04/28 20:37:20
Subject: Did I miss something??
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No one can resist the power of monkeys, obviously.
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2011/04/28 20:41:39
Subject: Did I miss something??
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2011/04/28 20:42:33
Subject: Did I miss something??
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insaniak wrote:hcordes wrote:I still think its weird that I 've got the mighty Grey Knight Terminators ready to battle against the foulest forces of Chaos.... aaaaand...... they bring a Monkey (Ape)......???
So don't think of it like that, then.
Can't stop thinking about it! Inception! Buh, buh buh, buh buh, buh buh, buh buh, BUH!
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2011/04/28 20:43:33
Subject: Did I miss something??
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Backfire wrote:hcordes wrote:When did the Imperial forces start using MONKEYS????
They're apes, not monkeys
Actually they are a Xeno race. Mat Ward thought that the organisation responsible to cleanse the Imperium of all Xeno scum should hire Xenos themself and that there is no need to explain why.
Jokeros were invented in crazy early Rogue trader days around the pun "digital weapons" (=weapons hidden in fingers=digits!). Base of their background is that they are technical geniusses in a MacGyver style and that no Imperial can communicate with them, tame them or imprison them. So they seemed like prime candidates for tamed team players to Mat Ward. But then again, according to him Grey Knights resisted the temptation of the Blood God by slaughering Sororitas and bathing in their blood. Yeah sure! 
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