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Title said it all.

All the rumors say they're getting the Demurig and they already have the Kroot and Vespids. I think the human guardsmen with similar stats to a guardsmen can be a 2nd or 3rd troop choice to be an alternative Fire Warrior.

It would pretty cool to run a Tau Army with few Tau and many aliens.

They should have customizable auxillaries that can represent a wide variety of races similiar to the 3rd ed. Tyranid biomorph table.

Then I can finally make an army of Tarellian Dog fighters!

No. Whilst they might be fun at annoying Imperial players, it is really difficult to comprehend what sort of role they could play in Tau army. As I understand it, Gue'vesa are equivalent of Imperial PDF's. Tau army with a Conscript blob? No thank you...

Trash the vespid, give them Human auxiliaries with the option of pulse rifles at + 5 points each. Then allow them to have Fusion blasters(up to 2) and special weapons teams(burst cannon, missile pods).

I suppose they left them out of the last one because they figured people would proxy if they wanted to field auxiliaries.

They could have human heavy weapon teams or a blob squad.

I'm just really not a fan of Tau fire warriors.

DorianGray wrote: or a blob squad.

Im cool not giving a devastating gun line a cover save or supporting close combat potential !

I voted no, what role would they play - IN GAME AT THE VERY LEAST - that couldn't be filled by fire warriors?

I think it would be cool to have humans in the Tau army. They could fill any role - they wouldn't have to be IG-alikes. They could even be human/vespid cross breeds or anything from some isolated planet that the imperium forgot about with it's own culture and technology.

Just because humans are represented in the IOM by IG doesn't mean that human auxiliaries in the Tau army would have to be blob squads or heavy weapons squads or anything that currently exists in the IG codex for that matter.

Well according to the fluff Gue'vesa (human auxiliaries) are former PDF or Imperial Guard regiments on imperial worlds that joined the Tau Empire for better quality of life, etc

They would be similar to the IG no?

Which have similar stats to the Tau, are only marginally better in close combat and it wouldn't make sense for them to have superior numbers as they are auxiliaries. I really don't see how they'd fit-in in the Codex?

What would be the point? All the current (and presumably the future) auxiliaries theoretically have a purpose, they fill a whole in Tau tactics. Sure Vespid are worthless right now, but in theory they have a job. Do Tau really need human aux that are very similar to firewarriors but with less armor and slightly better in CC? Nah, I don't think so. Let players sub in some human 'firewarrior' units (using Firewarrior entries) as just a model swap. Fluffwise I wouldn't think the Tau Empire would allow the human aux to pack around heavy weapons anyway, it's contrary to Tau infantry combat doctrine.

Besides, if I wanted to play Guard I'd... well then I'd play Guard.

DorianGray wrote:It would pretty cool to run a Tau Army with few Tau and many aliens.

This is the problem I have. Its a TAU and friends army. Not a tau AND FRIENDS army. Auxilary are there to help out, not take the army over. Plus, as others have said, guardsmen and firewarriors have almost the same stat line. Whats the purpose of bringing them if they don't bring anything to the table?

DorianGray wrote:Well according to the fluff Gue'vesa (human auxiliaries) are former PDF or Imperial Guard regiments on imperial worlds that joined the Tau Empire for better quality of life, etc

They would be similar to the IG no?

But don't we already HAVE Imperial Guard? Do we really need more Meltavets? Well, I guess they'd be riding Devilfishes...

If you want Imperial Guard, play Imperial Guard.

They could be a 0 - 1 of a ten man squad that could upgrade the sarge with a rifle or carbine for say 10pts? They are there to help so taking one squad would be fine. Conversions would be cool to build.

I would be cool if Tau got human servants, I could finally use my IG army.

Yes they should get Human troops that would use a mixture of IG and Tau equiptment!

((More traitors to burn))

FOR THE EMPEROR!

IMO to diversify the next codex, it would better to have Kroot with different bio-upgrades reflecting on their innate ability to absorb characteristics from enemy races they consume. They could be psykers like Eldar, sadistic like Dark Eldar, tougher and stronger like Orks, or daemonic like chaos.

The rumored Deimurg hopefully tougher than T4, would also fit in the Tau codex. A race that is advance as Tau in technology with exotics weapons.

Finally, another feature would be expanding on the gun drone's role. Kamikaze drones acting like spore mines, sniper drones, marker drones, gun drones, shield drones, detection drones, and repair drones would add a lot of flavor to the next Tau codex.

Imperial Guard however wouldn't add anything useful. The only use I see in them through the old pdf written long time ago is cheap access to markerlights.

I'm hoping they don't add them too, I've modeled mine as counts-as firewarriors!

Really wouldn't contribute anything. They're worse at firing than fire warriors according to fluff, they're not fast like vespid, and they're not good at combat.

Best to just convert Cadian guardsmen if you really want them.

Just give better Kroot options.

Human auxillaries would have be heavy weapon teams. Humans are larger than Tau and have a larger tendency for big guns, so fluff wise they could lug around slightly larger guns. On the board, tehy could get teams to carry around a weapon only the battlesuits could carry before.

Mr Nobody wrote:Human auxillaries would have be heavy weapon teams. Humans are larger than Tau and have a larger tendency for big guns, so fluff wise they could lug around slightly larger guns. On the board, tehy could get teams to carry around a weapon only the battlesuits could carry before.

great, now I've started thinking of HWTs with Railguns

As a flavorful option, they're cool. I'm not sure exactly what purpose they'd serve in the army, but more choice is always a good thing.

I would handle auxiliaries like the new Inq Henchmen. The unit is just "Auxiliairies" but there's enough options to have all sorts of aliens (or humans) in a squad.

Personally as a Tau player I do not want any more auxiliaries. I prefer to run mostly a pure tau army, but reserve my kroot for big games. I think the kroot have potential as well as the tau. They need to expand with the army and not just use band aid auxiliaries to excel them in close combat. If your a tau player and want humans just use the taros campaign from forgeworld. I personally want kroot to gain access to some close combat weapons and expand their options of upgrades, also i would like a kroot shaman who makes the unit he joins stubborn and gets a witchblade. I also would rather not try and remember a whole new stat line of auxiliaries.

See I'm the total opposite to the above poster.

I want to play Tau and run a mostly non-Tau army of alien allies.

Imagine the lawls.

Death to the alien and the heretic. Buts seriously no I would find humans in a tau army rather sad seeing as humanity is already well represented in the imperium I mean the IG are nothing to scoff at.

solles wrote:

Mr Nobody wrote:Human auxillaries would have be heavy weapon teams. Humans are larger than Tau and have a larger tendency for big guns, so fluff wise they could lug around slightly larger guns. On the board, tehy could get teams to carry around a weapon only the battlesuits could carry before.

great, now I've started thinking of HWTs with Railguns

Rail rifles maybe but not a Railgun. The gun need to much power to use which is why it is on a suit. I could see HWT's with a larger fusion/plasma gun, or just let them us their IG weapons.

How about just model some of your firewarriors to be humans. Or demiurg or whatever.